IRC log for #koha, 2007-08-03

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15:30 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: darcilicious n=plinkit@
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19:52 pananohacker Hello.
19:52 pananohacker Anybody alive?
19:52 jaron hi
19:52 jaron mostly alive
19:53 pananohacker Can you help me with a Koha error?
19:53 pananohacker HTML::Template->output() : fatal error in loop output : HTML::Template::param() : attempt to set parameter 'issues' with an array ref - parameter is not a TMPL_LOOP! at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/HTML/ line 3069, referer:[…]koha/
19:54 jaron Do other things work?
19:55 jaron ok, I see now that you've got a site up
19:55 pananohacker Yeah.
19:55 jaron I've never seen that error before myself
19:55 pananohacker Damn.
19:55 jaron I'd try to mailing list
20:07 pananohacker Fixed by downgrading.
20:07 pananohacker Thanks!
20:07 pananohacker Bye.
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21:35 masonj_ morning #koha
21:40 [K] <darcilicious@FreeNode> afternoon :)
21:40 masonj_ heya darci
21:40 [K] <darcilicious@FreeNode> heya! :) how's it going?
21:46 masonj_ waaay  better after this coffee  :)
21:47 [K] <darcilicious@FreeNode> ha! :)
21:47 masonj_ hay, so where are you from darci,  im in NZ
21:48 [K] <darcilicious@FreeNode> i'm out here, near portland oregon
21:51 masonj_ ah, i recently read a chuck palahniuk (fight club guy) book bout portland
21:52 [K] <darcilicious@FreeNode> any good?
21:53 masonj_ yea, was a fun read, i have a few friends that spent some time there, and they liked it too
21:54 masonj_[…]niuk_answers_your
22:20 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: Presently42
22:23 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Hello. I was in here a while ago, wondering how to get my koha server accessible from the internet. I was told to start with ip translating. I seem to have done this. Still, going to my router's ip adress :8080 does not bring up koha. I assume that I have not corectly configured koha-httpd.conf as i can only access the :80 and :8080  locally.
22:24 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I'm using Debian unstable and the newest koha.
22:28 masonj_ hmm, so you can get to your koha from another box on your local net?
22:28 jaron have you included koha-httpd.conf in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled? or something like that. you may also need to add a Listen 8080
22:28 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> yep.
22:28 jaron ah I see
22:29 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Wait. The yep was for the ficst bit.
22:29 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> first.
22:29 masonj_ right :)
22:30 masonj_ then its a probably a config issue with your router
22:31 jaron yeah, if you can see both locally but not over the internet then it seems like a router issue
22:31 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Should the Listen 8080 be in koha-httpd.conf? If so, it is there. If not, where?
22:33 masonj_ if you can get to you koha box on 8080, then its in there , and working :)
22:33 jaron check /etc/apache2/ports.conf too
22:33 jaron but masonj_is right again if you can get to it from any machine that's not the problem
22:33 jaron I was just hasty and didn't fully read your first message
22:33 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> No problem.
22:34 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I'm loking at the ports.con now.
22:34 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Aha! It only says "Listen 80".
22:34 jaron the important bit about Listen is that it only be defined in one place
22:35 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> So I should remove this instance of it?
22:35 jaron if you have Listen 80 in koha-httpd.conf too that's no good
22:35 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I don't. There, I have Listen 8080.
22:36 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> And apache2.conf has nothing congerning Listen.
22:36 jaron then you're good as long as each Listen is only defined once
22:36 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> (My typing isn't too good to-day. Sorry.)
22:36 jaron I'd look again at your router
22:36 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Hmm.
22:37 [K] *** join #koha@FreeNode: jaron
22:37 jaron you can priv message me if you want someone else to test--I'll get on the other channel...
22:40 masonj_ yeah, if you can get to your koha on 80 and 8080 from another local box, your apache is fine
22:40 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> So it's the router.
22:40 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Hmm.
22:41 jaron Look for the IP forwarding setting
22:41 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> The problem is that it uses proprietary software from my isp. The router is also from the isp: It is a Siemens 6500 series, not commercially available beast.
22:43 jaron you might also search for "port forwarding"
22:43 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> What I see is Port Mapping Setup.
22:45 jaron looks like this is a common question with these routers--have you googled a bit?
22:45 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Name |Protocol |Port| Redirected to IP Address|Custom Configuration | TCP| 8080 | 192.168. 2. 13
22:49 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> It seems that[…]6520/Echolink.htm conficms that I have forwarded correctly.
22:50 jaron and you've also forwarded port 80?
22:50 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I tried in, but there was no diference.
22:50 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> It, not in.
22:51 jaron no other firewall that might be getting in the way?
22:51 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Aside from the router's? Nope.
22:52 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Thanks for your time, by the bye. I appreciate it greatly.
22:53 jaron yeah, I'm all outta suggestions
22:53 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: jaron
22:56 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode>
22:56 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> That's my koha-httpd.conf.
22:57 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Its current setup is such that it is accessible locally.
22:59 jaron why is the intranet virtualhost set up twice? I'm just guessing here
22:59 jaron I'm not great with apache
22:59 jaron did <VirtualHost *:80> not work for you?
23:01 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I believe that the first virtual host is for opac and the second for intranet.
23:01 jaron in the paste there are two intranet ones
23:01 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> And, I've not tried the *:80.
23:01 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> ...So there are....
23:02 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> It's an error of pasting.
23:02 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> The file proper does not have it twice. Well spotted, though.
23:05 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> The asterisk gave VirtualHost *:8080 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results when I restarted apache.
23:06 jaron instead of your 192.168... address have you tried using NameVirtualHost setup?
23:07 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I think I did, but I think I did not do it correctly.
23:07 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Let me try again.
23:08 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Shall I put the address in the NameVirtualHost argument, or the router's IP address?
23:08 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> IP address, apparently.
23:09 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> But, the server's or the router's?
23:09 jaron ok, for one of my set ups behind a router I did it this way: I commented out NameVirtualHost....
23:10 jaron <VirtualHost *:80>
23:10 jaron ServerName
23:10 jaron and changed the Redirect as well
23:12 jaron BTW, currently if I go to I simply get the apache2-default page
23:12 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Interesting.
23:15 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> To what did you change your Redirect?
23:16 jaron Redirect permanent index.html
23:19 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I still get [error] VirtualHost *:8080 -- mixing * ports and non-* ports with a NameVirtualHost address is not supported, proceeding with undefined results
23:19 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> And for :80.
23:20 jaron did you change both virtualhosts?
23:20 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Yes.
23:20 jaron for try ServerName
23:21 jaron and change the redirect as well to include the port
23:21 dewey jaron: that doesn't look right
23:21 jaron dewey: botsnack
23:21 dewey thanks jaron :)
23:22 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> [error] (EAI 2)Name or service not known: Could not resolve host name -- ignoring!
23:23 jaron do you have you address listed in /etc/hosts ?
23:23 jaron localhost
23:24 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode>
23:25 jaron try adding the address to
23:25 jaron I'm just taking stabs right now so you know :)
23:27 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I'm not sure what you mean by add the address to Do you mean a space after localhost and then the
23:27 jaron localhost
23:28 jaron in that form
23:28 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Right-o.
23:30 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Nothing works.
23:31 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Not even locally.
23:31 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Hehe. What a mess! :)
23:31 jaron I'm sorry
23:32 jaron just telling you what's worked for me
23:32 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Don't be! You're trying to help a helpless dolt.
23:32 jaron did you get an error?
23:32 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> No.
23:33 jaron when you try to reach it locally what address are you trying?
23:33 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode>
23:33 jaron from a different machine?
23:33 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Yes.
23:33 jaron try localhost from the same machine
23:33 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I only ssh in to the server.
23:34 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> And it hasn't got a gui.
23:34 jaron then try lynx
23:34 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Ok.
23:36 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> It works!
23:36 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I uncommented the listen line. With the linet line commented, nothing happens-.
23:37 jaron but only from the localhost right?
23:37 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Should I be including http:// before the
23:37 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> From everywhere.
23:37 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> O.
23:38 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Well, from both this laptop and the server.
23:38 jaron I still can't get to it :(
23:38 jaron where are you wanting to include http:// ?
23:39 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> After VirtualHost, ServerName and Redirect.
23:39 jaron only in Redirect
23:40 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Aha!
23:40 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> What about the Listen line? # or no #?
23:41 jaron if you have the two Listen lines uncommented in your koha-httpd.conf then you should comment them in other config files
23:42 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I only have one Listen line and it is in koha-httpd.conf.
23:42 jaron you should have Listen 80 & Listen 8080
23:43 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Really....
23:43 jaron that's what works for me
23:43 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> This gives errors when restarting apache2.
23:44 jaron what error?
23:44 dewey i heard error was not recoverable: exiting now
23:44 jaron dewey: botsnack
23:44 dewey :)
23:45 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode>
23:45 jaron check ports.conf too
23:45 jaron Only one Listen 80 ANYWHERE in apache config stuff
23:47 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> From locally, It works!
23:49 jaron well, that's progress I suppose
23:49 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> "It works!" being the apache message.
23:49 jaron well, then it doesn't work
23:50 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Hehe
23:50 jaron you should be seeing koha
23:50 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> I once did. Now, not so much. ;)
23:50 jaron koha-httpd.conf is in sites-enabled or linked to it?
23:50 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> O, I tried that. It gave an error. I'll try again and show you.
23:51 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> At the moment, koha-httpd.conf is loaded by apache2.conf.
23:52 jaron so you have "Include /etc/koha-httpd.conf" in apche2.conf? no quotes
23:52 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> IYes.
23:53 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Include /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/Include /etc/koha-httpd.conf
23:54 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> ^^ from apache2.conf
23:54 jaron yeah, that's what I've got
23:54 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> It seems to me that if I get the It works! message, we're one step away from seeing koha.
23:55 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> We just need to make apache call koha.
23:55 jaron and the virtual hosts set up should do that: paste it one last time
23:56 jaron then I've got to go home :)
23:56 jaron even if I have to leave you hanging :(
23:57 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode>
23:57 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> And, don't worry about leaving me hanging. You have been a tremendous help.
23:58 jaron try ServerName
23:59 jaron for the intranet
23:59 jaron you got it!
23:59 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> AHA!!!!!!!!!!
23:59 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> You did the impossible!
00:00 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Bravo! I thank you most kindly.
00:00 jaron now make sure that intranet password is good
00:00 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Of course.
00:01 jaron have fun
00:01 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Thank you agait.
00:01 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> And again.
00:01 [K] <Presently42@FreeNode> Cheers.
00:05 ganno Hello
00:06 ganno I have two questions
00:12 [K] *** part FreeNode!#koha: Presently42
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11:55 Brooke howdy
11:57 Brooke hi js
11:57 js hi
11:58 Brooke so what's going on?
11:59 chris heya Brooke and js
11:59 Brooke :D

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