| Time |
S |
Nick |
Message |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
msg owen |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
oops |
| 15:53 |
|
owen |
Well, you got my attention anyway! |
| 15:53 |
|
kados |
yea I hit enter by mistake |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
I think I finally finished writing emails for the OLC annual |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
sheesh |
| 15:54 |
|
kados |
that took all day |
| 15:55 |
|
owen |
I've been working on slides (yes, in CSS!). The hardest part is judging how long the talk will take. I don't know if I've got too little or too much. |
| 15:57 |
|
rach |
joshua how did your talk go? |
| 16:04 |
|
owen |
We're both giving talks next week. |
| 16:04 |
|
owen |
Joshua's also involved with the planning and preparation, so he's got even more to think about. |
| 16:05 |
|
chris |
gonna have a webcam so we can all watch? :-) |
| 16:06 |
|
owen |
that'd be a little too technologically-advanced for this facility. They want to charge $100 per day per conference room for internet access! |
| 16:06 |
|
chris |
ack |
| 16:06 |
|
chris |
ohh i remember they wanted to charge us the last time too .. same crowd? |
| 16:07 |
|
owen |
Well, it's the hotel that's doing the charging, and though it's in a different city, I think it's the same hotel--Hilton. |
| 16:07 |
|
chris |
right |
| 16:08 |
|
owen |
I can't believe they can get away with it. |
| 16:08 |
|
chris |
yeah thats really steep |
| 16:09 |
|
owen |
The libraries should set up some guerilla access points all around the facility, blanket the whole place with wi-fi. |
| 16:09 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 16:10 |
|
chris |
string cat-5 up thru the windows :-) |
| 16:10 |
|
owen |
It'd be cheaper, either way! |
| 16:10 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
Hopefully the hotel where we're staying will have a better policy (I'm not even sure where that is!) |
| 16:11 |
|
owen |
kados: do you know? |
| 16:11 |
|
chris |
maybe it will be like the redroof inn, with ethernet jacks in the wall, but them not being connected to anything :-) |
| 16:12 |
|
owen |
Oh yeah! That was very helpful. |
| 16:12 |
|
chris |
the holiday inn in cleveland had free access |
| 16:12 |
|
chris |
just plug into the wall, dhcp an address and u were away |
| 16:13 |
|
owen |
If anyone's interested, here's a link to the PDF of the first day's schedule, when Joshua and I are speaking: http://olc.org/wednesdayschedule.pdf |
| 16:29 |
|
kados |
shhh |
| 16:29 |
|
chris |
owen and or joshua, u guys no much about AACR2 |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
don't tell :-) |
| 16:30 |
|
chris |
excellent |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
lemme check |
| 16:30 |
|
owen |
chris: no |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 16:30 |
|
chris |
its a cataloguing standard as far as i can tell |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
nope |
| 16:30 |
|
chris |
or more a way of displaying catalogue info |
| 16:30 |
|
owen |
kados: it was too good an idea for someone not to be actually doing it! |
| 16:30 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
well I had a brief stint with AACR2 when I did some research for my Z-server |
| 16:31 |
|
kados |
but not much |
| 16:31 |
|
chris |
they are gonna have a crack at making an AARC2 theme for the opac |
| 16:31 |
|
owen |
o O (KIG?) |
| 16:31 |
|
chris |
koha interest group |
| 16:31 |
|
chris |
theres quite a few members of the indian one now |
| 16:33 |
|
chris |
its good to see, argentina and india .. koha usage seems to be taking off |
| 16:33 |
|
owen |
That's great. Seems like a prime market: low-budget, tech-savvy, English speaking. |
| 16:33 |
|
chris |
yeah |
| 16:33 |
|
chris |
then we can say |
| 16:33 |
|
chris |
Koha : 1 billion indians cant be wrong |
| 16:33 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 16:33 |
|
owen |
:) |
| 16:34 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 16:38 |
|
kados |
msg owen I guess I should search our catalog first :-) |
| 16:39 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 16:41 |
|
chris |
theres not often nothing else to do :-) |
| 16:41 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 16:43 |
|
tim |
Anglo-American Cataloguing Rules. |
| 16:44 |
|
tim |
Big 3-ring binder. |
| 16:44 |
|
chris |
ahh right |
| 16:45 |
|
tim |
filled with gibberish... |
| 16:45 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 16:46 |
|
chris |
the existing system a lot of poeple are using in india has a AARC2 view .. which i suspect is just a way of ordering the information u display to the public |
| 16:46 |
|
owen |
Like Paul's mysterious ISBD |
| 16:46 |
|
owen |
(mysterious because it didn't work when we tried it) |
| 16:46 |
|
kados |
I should really try to get a webcam on our Koha sessions |
| 16:46 |
|
tim |
I forgot a bunch of stuff about that from a class I took. |
| 16:46 |
|
chris |
:-) |
| 16:47 |
|
tim |
The webcam would be cool. Could you record it so we could watch it whenever we want? |
| 16:47 |
|
kados |
that'd be ideal |
| 16:48 |
|
tim |
It would be like a public access cable channel. |
| 16:48 |
|
kados |
yep |
| 16:48 |
|
tim |
The sound's awful on ours. |
| 16:49 |
|
kados |
anyone know of good video software for linux? |
| 16:50 |
|
kados |
chris, you do some of that, eh? |
| 16:50 |
|
chris |
not me |
| 16:50 |
|
chris |
people at citylink do, but im not sure if they use linux |
| 16:51 |
|
kados |
ahh |
| 16:51 |
|
chris |
http://r2.co.nz/ |
| 16:54 |
|
chris |
i might try to get a webcam going for the wedding too |
| 16:55 |
|
chris |
depending on if the venue has any net access |
| 16:55 |
|
owen |
Who knew we'd ever need to worry about net access for weddings? :) |
| 16:56 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 16:56 |
|
chris |
who know my 79 year old grandma would have internet in her rest home, and ask about a web camera |
| 16:56 |
|
chris |
know=knew |
| 16:56 |
|
kados |
hehe |
| 16:57 |
|
kados |
I'm thinking of just snagging one of the library cams and converting it when I get back...looks like these USB webcams are hard to use with linux |
| 16:57 |
|
chris |
might well be the easiest way |
| 16:58 |
|
owen |
I've got one here in Chauncey that's not being used (because I'm using the ibook for web site tests) |
| 16:58 |
|
chris |
ohhh si |
| 16:58 |
|
si |
complete with monster zoom lens |
| 16:59 |
|
kados |
wow ... that babys got a nic |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
http://alllinuxdevices.com/new[…]1-01-006-03-OP-HW |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
and runs linux |
| 17:00 |
|
kados |
see ya owen |
| 17:00 |
|
chris |
is that what citylink uses for its webcams si? |
| 17:01 |
|
kados |
yowser ... really expensive suckers |
| 17:03 |
|
si |
the good ones, yes |
| 17:04 |
|
si |
unfortuanately, I don't have the audio add on |
| 17:04 |
|
si |
and if we could pick one up in the states somewhere |
| 17:06 |
|
chris |
i was planning to grab a webcam over there, once i saw if it was going to be possible to get some kinda net access |
| 17:06 |
|
chris |
we have a fancy DV camera from TLC to use for normal video |
| 17:06 |
|
chris |
well normal digital video :) i was only gonna a try a webcam if i could get a stream going :) |
| 17:07 |
|
si |
$230 for the audio module as well |
| 17:07 |
|
chris |
ah right |
| 17:08 |
|
si |
which is no biggy |
| 17:08 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 17:08 |
|
chris |
heh |
| 17:09 |
|
si |
and I'm sure there's a bunch of people back here who'd like to see the ceremony |
| 17:09 |
|
chris |
yep, the trick i think will be getting net at the place |
| 17:10 |
|
si |
is tha tlikely? |
| 17:10 |
|
kados |
depending on the locale you may be able to hop on someone's WAP |
| 17:11 |
|
chris |
i dont think so |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
you won't believe how many open waps are about |
| 17:11 |
|
chris |
its in the middle of a park |
| 17:11 |
|
chris |
but yeah, its a possible maybe .. which is why i was planning to scope it out when we got there |
| 17:11 |
|
chris |
i dont have to much hope |
| 17:11 |
|
kados |
ahh ... you could always pringles can it |
| 17:11 |
|
chris |
they dont have an email address :) |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 17:12 |
|
si |
mmm, pringles cans |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
http://www.turnpoint.net/wirel[…]s/mypringles.html |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
I've done a couple of these with great success |
| 17:12 |
|
chris |
did you see the wok one joshua? |
| 17:12 |
|
kados |
no |
| 17:13 |
|
chris |
someone at the university here made an antenna from a wok, i wonder if i can find a url |
| 17:13 |
|
si |
ahh, the fish slice aerials? |
| 17:13 |
|
kados |
maybe that's it |
| 17:15 |
|
chris |
http://homepages.paradise.net.[…]adio%20aerial.htm <--not the one i was thinking off, but cool nonetheless |
| 17:15 |
|
si |
http://masseynews.massey.ac.nz[…]ses/06_11_04.html |
| 17:16 |
|
chris |
heh excellent |
| 17:21 |
|
Joann |
Goodmorning all |
| 17:22 |
|
Joann |
Si: had a good meeting with telstra yesterday. Sent you an email. |
| 17:22 |
|
kados |
hi there |
| 17:22 |
|
Joann |
CHris: good luck with wedding |
| 17:22 |
|
chris |
thanks jo |
| 17:22 |
|
Joann |
have fun too |
| 17:22 |
|
chris |
ill do my best :) |
| 17:22 |
|
kados |
that wok looks alot sturdier than my pringles can |
| 17:23 |
|
kados |
and not pay a dime |
| 17:24 |
|
kados |
there are so many open waps in the valley that my house sits at the top of |
| 17:24 |
|
kados |
:-) |
| 17:24 |
|
chris |
all the students? |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
yea ... plus all the rich profs |
| 17:25 |
|
chris |
:) |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
wireless is getting pretty big in athens |
| 17:25 |
|
kados |
I can pretty much hop from network to network on my zaurus all the way from my house to uptown |
| 17:27 |
|
chris |
u need a wifi phone :-) |
| 18:21 |
|
chris |
washington the state? or washington DC ? |
| 18:21 |
|
rach |
DC |
| 18:22 |
|
chris |
7.22pm |
| 18:22 |
|
rach |
ta |
| 18:22 |
|
rach |
ok that's too late then :-) |
| 18:22 |
|
chris |
yesterday :) |
| 18:23 |
|
chris |
4.23 in washington state |
| 18:23 |
|
chris |
http://www.worldtimeserver.com/ is what i use rach |
| 18:23 |
|
rach |
ah no is definitly washington dc I want - just wasn't sure which way the time went |
| 18:24 |
|
rach |
that's a bit odd |
| 18:50 |
|
chris |
http://wra.scoolaid.net/cgi-bi[…]etail.pl?bib=2824 <-- looks quite nice |
| 19:54 |
|
rach |
Yep - so what is OPALS? |
| 19:54 |
|
rach |
Is it Koha with a new name? |
| 19:54 |
|
chris |
afaict yell, a modified koha |
| 19:55 |
|
rach |
yep - but just the OPAC maybe> |
| 19:56 |
|
chris |
yep |
| 20:45 |
|
mikem |
rach - are you around? |
| 20:50 |
|
mikem |
rach - e-mail heading your way |
| 22:06 |
|
rach |
here |
| 22:06 |
|
rach |
thanks mije |
| 22:06 |
|
rach |
mike |
| 22:07 |
|
mikem |
thanks for that rach ... and yes I will ring next week |
| 22:08 |
|
rach |
cool - russ is away today, but I know that he is keen to hook up with you and get ya going :-) |
| 22:09 |
|
rach |
and Rachel Prebee has been keen to help for ages as well, and she already knows the Kea system - so I reckon between you you'll be acouple of guns :-) |
| 22:25 |
|
mikem |
which I suppose is good unless we shoot ourselves in the foot ;-) |
| 08:18 |
|
matias |
hello everyone |
| 08:41 |
|
matias |
are you there? |
| 08:47 |
|
kados |
hi there |
| 08:51 |
|
matias |
hi...how are you?... |
| 08:53 |
|
matias |
I was looking at reserves... |
| 08:54 |
|
matias |
and to test it...I made a reserved for a book from opac... |
| 08:55 |
|
matias |
and then I tried to issued that book from intranet... |
| 08:56 |
|
matias |
supossely, I couldn´t issued...but it happended... |
| 08:56 |
|
matias |
:-( |
| 09:52 |
|
paul |
hello |
| 10:31 |
|
matias |
hello again |
| 10:31 |
|
paul |
hi |
| 10:31 |
|
matias |
hi paul..I´m glad to find ou... :-) |
| 10:31 |
|
matias |
how are you? |
| 10:33 |
|
matias |
an I ask you a question? |
| 10:35 |
|
matias |
what should happend when you want to issue an item...and you have a reserve for it?... |
| 10:35 |
|
paul |
there should be a warning |
| 10:35 |
|
matias |
I mean...should it stop the issue proccess? |
| 10:35 |
|
paul |
asking if you confirm & remove the reserve |
| 10:36 |
|
paul |
if you confirm=> stop the issue |
| 10:36 |
|
paul |
no |
| 10:36 |
|
paul |
if you confirm the issue => remove reserve & issue |
| 10:36 |
|
paul |
if you don't confirm => don't issue & do nothing for reserve |
| 10:37 |
|
matias |
and this is what the 2.2 version should do? |
| 10:38 |
|
matias |
then I may did it wrong... |
| 10:42 |
|
matias |
what do ou mean by remove the reserve...? |
| 10:42 |
|
matias |
it delete the reserve from the DBB? |
| 10:42 |
|
matias |
or just annuled it..? |
| 11:01 |
|
matias |
well....gotta go... |
| 11:02 |
|
matias |
thanks Paul for your help.. |
| 11:02 |
|
matias |
bye people... |
| 11:02 |
|
matias |
see ya |
| 11:02 |
|
paul |
here |
| 11:02 |
|
paul |
sorry, i missed your question. |
| 11:02 |
|
paul |
it's supposed to be deleted from the DDB |
| 11:03 |
|
paul |
(not sure it's "deleted". maybe it's marked "canceled") |
| 11:03 |
|
paul |
in fact, i havent' tested reserve a lot yet. |
| 11:07 |
|
matias |
oh ok...I´m testing that part right now... |
| 11:13 |
|
matias |
supposely...it handle kind of priorities for reserves... |
| 11:13 |
|
matias |
when you confirm an issue, it set the reserve´s priority to 0... |
| 11:14 |
|
paul |
meaning it's canceled ? |
| 11:14 |
|
paul |
does it appear in the reserve list from the borrower entry ? |
| 11:15 |
|
matias |
I didn´t chkc that..but I did this |
| 11:15 |
|
matias |
I made a reserve for an item... |
| 11:15 |
|
matias |
its priority was set to 1... |
| 11:15 |
|
matias |
I did that from opac... |
| 11:16 |
|
matias |
then I went to intranet and try to issued that item... |
| 11:16 |
|
matias |
do you follow me? |
| 11:16 |
|
matias |
when I did it...it appears a warning to confirm that issue procces... |
| 11:17 |
|
matias |
only to confirm...not to cancel... |
| 11:17 |
|
paul |
but if you confirm the issue process, you cancel the reserve |
| 11:18 |
|
paul |
go to members => search member |
| 11:18 |
|
matias |
if you confirm => issue the item and set that founded reserve priority to 0 |
| 11:18 |
|
matias |
that´s what Idid |
| 11:18 |
|
paul |
if you go to members area |
| 11:18 |
|
paul |
and search for the member that did the reserve |
| 11:18 |
|
paul |
does it still appear or is there a "no reserve" ? |
| 11:19 |
|
paul |
if that's it, then it's working as it's supposed to do. |
| 11:19 |
|
paul |
when issuing => ask for confirmation because there is a reserve |
| 11:19 |
|
paul |
if confirmed => cancel the reserve |
| 11:19 |
|
matias |
it appears a table for the requested items and says none... |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
so, it work |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
s |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
go in OPAC again and reserve again |
| 11:20 |
|
matias |
ok |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
then in the lbrarian interface, search for the member |
| 11:20 |
|
paul |
you should see the reserve |
| 11:23 |
|
matias |
yes...it is... |
| 11:23 |
|
paul |
so it works fine |
| 11:23 |
|
matias |
ok...now...don´t we have to show to the librarian that you have to confirm because you have a reserve on that book? |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
the confirm box does not show that ? |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
it's a bug... |
| 11:24 |
|
paul |
it just show "confirm the issue (Y/N)" ? |
| 11:25 |
|
matias |
yeap..it says... This issued needs confirmation and there´s a confirm button... |
| 11:25 |
|
matias |
ok...go to dinner...thanks a lot for your help |
| 11:25 |
|
paul_away |
but does not show just before the confirm button the reason ? |
| 11:25 |
|
paul_away |
strange... |
| 11:26 |
|
matias |
nope |
| 11:26 |
|
paul_away |
i'll look |
| 11:26 |
|
matias |
look.. |
| 11:26 |
|
paul_away |
it's a bug. |
| 11:26 |
|
paul_away |
it's supposed to do. |
| 11:26 |
|
paul_away |
bye, i leave |
| 11:27 |
|
matias |
I´ll work with emiliano this afternoon...we´ll make a doc about about all this reserves things..how it is working until now...and what is our proposal for that.. |
| 11:27 |
|
matias |
we are going to email that doc for you..ok? |
| 11:27 |
|
matias |
see ya later...and thanks again... |
| 11:34 |
|
matias |
bye all |
| 11:34 |
|
matias |
see ya |
