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| 00:11 |
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mtj |
hmmm, with the greatest of respect sir, i was merely stating that i thought …. |
| 00:11 |
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mtj |
ah, he's gone… :/ |
| 00:23 |
|
rangi |
Hehe yeah he totally will answer something like that |
| 00:24 |
|
rangi |
2012 the year of ridiculous demands of free software developers |
| 00:25 |
|
rangi |
I shoulda said patches or cheques accepted |
| 00:26 |
|
rangi |
And now I'm really gone |
| 00:47 |
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drojf |
oooh i'm missing the troll fun |
| 02:38 |
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rangi |
back |
| 03:39 |
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jcamins_away |
chris_n++ # he made that sound so diplomatic |
| 03:42 |
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| 03:43 |
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Oak |
mtj++ |
| 05:14 |
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rangi |
Yep that was very well written |
| 05:14 |
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rangi |
chris_n++ |
| 05:48 |
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| 05:48 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 05:48 |
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mtompset |
Anyone around? |
| 05:49 |
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mtompset |
I suppose jcamins_away's message is probably an answer to my question. |
| 05:54 |
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| 06:00 |
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mtompset |
chris_n++ # the reply was diplomatic. So much so that dense paul.a will never clue in. |
| 06:02 |
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mtompset |
I guess I won't email things like, "What knowledge? You ask for help and do the opposite. You aren't open to learning, and continue to ask for more help after doing it the opposite way. That doesn't seem like knowledge. That seems like foolishness." |
| 06:07 |
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| 06:11 |
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mtompset |
Even I recanted of my do it from tarball ways, when I discovered the ease of packages. |
| 06:23 |
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* magnuse |
waves |
| 06:44 |
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rangi |
hi magnuse |
| 06:49 |
|
magnuse |
kia ora rangi! |
| 06:50 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, magnuse and rangi. |
| 06:50 |
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mtompset |
I'm glad I decided to come to the channel before hitting send. |
| 06:50 |
|
magnuse |
hehe? |
| 06:50 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... hehe is np |
| 06:51 |
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magnuse |
wahanui: forget hehe |
| 06:51 |
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wahanui |
magnuse: I forgot hehe |
| 06:53 |
|
magnuse |
yeah chris_n++ |
| 06:58 |
|
mtompset |
Has Paul (a?) ever come to the IRC channel? |
| 07:04 |
|
rangi |
nope, but either way, id appreciate it if we laid off the insults |
| 07:04 |
|
mtompset |
Yes. |
| 07:04 |
|
rangi |
(words like dense etc) |
| 07:05 |
|
mtompset |
I understand your drift. |
| 07:08 |
|
rangi |
cool, enough said then :) |
| 07:12 |
|
mtompset |
How's your weekend going, rangi? |
| 07:12 |
|
rangi |
not too bad, caught up on patches to push |
| 07:13 |
|
mtompset |
for version? |
| 07:16 |
|
mtompset |
Never mind... bug 8175 hasn't passed QA yet. |
| 07:16 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8175 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Signed Off , items.materials check logs error or displays incorrectly in details.pl |
| 07:42 |
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| 07:42 |
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sidd |
hi, i just installed koha on ubuntu but am unable to see the admin page |
| 07:44 |
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| 07:46 |
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sidd |
anyone there? |
| 07:50 |
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| 07:51 |
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mtompset |
It is Sunday afternoon for me, so you aren't going to find many people here on the weekend. |
| 07:51 |
|
mtompset |
But let's see if I can help. |
| 07:52 |
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mtompset |
sidd... you did an install on Ubuntu. Which version of ubuntu? How did you install it? |
| 07:53 |
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| 07:54 |
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mtompset |
sidd: are you still here? |
| 07:59 |
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sidd |
hi, was reading the documentation |
| 08:00 |
|
sidd |
i think 12.01 something |
| 08:00 |
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mtompset |
12.04 |
| 08:00 |
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mtompset |
And how did you install, what instructions did you fo |
| 08:00 |
|
mtompset |
follow? |
| 08:00 |
|
sidd |
yes 12.04 |
| 08:01 |
|
sidd |
i followed http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]ubuntu_-_packages step by step |
| 08:01 |
|
mtompset |
Okay... |
| 08:01 |
|
mtompset |
good start. |
| 08:01 |
|
mtompset |
So, the question is... |
| 08:01 |
|
mtompset |
how are you trying to access your staff client/administrative page? |
| 08:02 |
|
sidd |
just that the admin page doesn't appear. whether i give koha.abc.com or koha-intra.abc.com or koha-intra.abc.com:80, the same page appears. |
| 08:02 |
|
sidd |
and it is the maintenance page for the opac |
| 08:02 |
|
mtompset |
okay. |
| 08:02 |
|
mtompset |
Let's backtrack a little. |
| 08:02 |
|
sidd |
okay |
| 08:03 |
|
mtompset |
Looking up information here.... so we're on the same page, literally. :) |
| 08:03 |
|
sidd |
:) |
| 08:03 |
|
mtompset |
In the initial configuration step for the pre-web install. |
| 08:04 |
|
mtompset |
You created a /etc/koha/koha-sites.conf file. |
| 08:04 |
|
mtompset |
paste? |
| 08:04 |
|
wahanui |
paste is found at http://paste.koha-community.org |
| 08:04 |
|
sidd |
i created the file, and did not change anything except the domain name |
| 08:04 |
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mtompset |
Please paste it at the url that wahanui just gave. |
| 08:04 |
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sidd |
ok |
| 08:05 |
|
mtompset |
make sure to set the channel to #koha and your nick and a description too. :) |
| 08:06 |
|
pastebot |
"sidd" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "my koha-sites.conf file" (10 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/220 |
| 08:06 |
|
sidd |
done :) |
| 08:06 |
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mtompset |
okay. |
| 08:06 |
|
mtompset |
next... |
| 08:07 |
|
sidd |
my etc hosts file? |
| 08:07 |
|
mtompset |
-- wait... |
| 08:07 |
|
mtompset |
in the intance creation step |
| 08:07 |
|
mtompset |
(forgive the spelling) |
| 08:07 |
|
mtompset |
you typed a sudo koha-create command |
| 08:07 |
|
mtompset |
what did you type? |
| 08:08 |
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sidd |
yes, though i skipped sudo as I am root |
| 08:08 |
|
mtompset |
that's fine... what did you type? |
| 08:08 |
|
sidd |
i typed "koha-create --create-db nfal" |
| 08:08 |
|
mtompset |
okay... |
| 08:11 |
|
sidd |
ummm, no :( |
| 08:11 |
|
mtompset |
Oh, so then what are you expecting it to be? |
| 08:13 |
|
sidd |
i tried accessing it using koha.cameo.com. I think that was my mistake |
| 08:13 |
|
sidd |
let me check |
| 08:13 |
|
mtompset |
Yes, because it doesn't know that, it just went to the first definition of port 80 which is the OPAC. |
| 08:17 |
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| 08:17 |
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mtompset |
greetings, cait. |
| 08:17 |
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cait |
hi mtompset |
| 08:18 |
|
mtompset |
cait: Do you know how the issues and old_issues tables are used? |
| 08:19 |
|
cait |
issues has the checked out books |
| 08:19 |
|
cait |
when a book is returned |
| 08:19 |
|
cait |
the information ismoved to old_issues |
| 08:19 |
|
cait |
so both are veryimportant tables |
| 08:25 |
|
mtompset |
sidd: Did I lose you? |
| 08:26 |
|
mtompset |
@get quote 123 |
| 08:26 |
|
huginn |
mtompset: Error: The command "get" is available in the Dunno, Herald, Lart, Quote, and ReleaseDay plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "get". |
| 08:26 |
|
wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 08:27 |
|
mtompset |
@quote get 123 |
| 08:27 |
|
huginn |
mtompset: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 08:27 |
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cait |
mtompset: ? |
| 08:28 |
|
mtompset |
@quote add "rangi: ... graciousness never ever hurts." |
| 08:28 |
|
huginn |
mtompset: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 08:28 |
|
mtompset |
@quote add "rangi: ... graciousness never ever hurts." |
| 08:28 |
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huginn |
mtompset: The operation succeeded. Quote #218 added. |
| 08:29 |
|
mtompset |
sidd was just trying to do an ubuntu 12.04 packages install, and got stuck on the web install step part. |
| 08:30 |
|
mtompset |
turns out he got a couple things messed up in the configuration set up, but it should be easily fixed... once we know what he is expecting as the fully qualified domain name. |
| 08:30 |
|
mtompset |
He said he'd check, but I haven't heard back from sidd yet. |
| 08:31 |
|
mtompset |
As for the quote... I was trying to remember the syntax. |
| 08:31 |
|
mtompset |
So I could add some of rangi's words of wisdom. ;) |
| 08:32 |
|
mtompset |
So, if my issues and old_issues tables are messed up... I've lost checkout and checkin information. |
| 08:32 |
|
sidd |
mtompset: sorry, got a call. yes, nfal-intra works. thanks. somehow i got it in my head i had to use the machine's hostname |
| 08:33 |
|
sidd |
you have mentioned that i have a few things messed up in my config. anything else i need to correct? |
| 08:36 |
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| 08:36 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
| 08:36 |
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mtompset |
Sorry, bad internet. |
| 08:36 |
|
sidd |
hey mtompset. |
| 08:36 |
|
wahanui |
well, mtompset is working on the ultimate koha uninstall script for fun. Bug 459. Old school, baby! |
| 08:37 |
|
huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]ow_bug.cgi?id=459 enhancement, P4, ---, mtompset, In Discussion , No uninstall script |
| 08:37 |
|
mtompset |
Okay... so did you get the name you were expecting, sidd? |
| 08:37 |
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sidd |
mtompset: yes, my bad. had the wrong name. changed it in the etc hosts file and it worked like a charm :) |
| 08:38 |
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mtompset |
Okay... wait a second. |
| 08:38 |
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mtompset |
Did you fix the apache file too? |
| 08:39 |
|
mtompset |
Oh... you were just using the wrong name. |
| 08:39 |
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mtompset |
What you typed in was correct. |
| 08:39 |
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sidd |
mtompset: i don't think i needed that |
| 08:39 |
|
sidd |
yes |
| 08:39 |
|
sidd |
thanks |
| 08:39 |
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mtompset |
Okay... good... |
| 08:39 |
|
mtompset |
A simple mistake. :) |
| 08:40 |
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mtompset |
YAY! :) |
| 08:40 |
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sidd |
:) not expected from myself...overconfidence. else i'd have read the documentation again and realised it : |
| 08:40 |
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sidd |
infact had a live cd installatoin till yesterday when rangi told me it was too old and not really a good choice :) |
| 08:41 |
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mtompset |
Oh... 3.0.999 or something? |
| 08:41 |
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sidd |
3.01..yes |
| 08:41 |
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mtompset |
Yes, very old version. |
| 08:41 |
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mtompset |
Congratulations on your brand new version. :) |
| 08:42 |
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mtompset |
And because you installed from packages... |
| 08:42 |
|
mtompset |
Scroll down to the bottom.... |
| 08:42 |
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mtompset |
see how easy upgrading will be. :) |
| 08:42 |
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mtompset |
2 maybe there commands... (ignore the 3.4.x stuff) |
| 08:42 |
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mtompset |
maybe three. |
| 08:42 |
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sidd |
thanks :) will now work on this one and be back as soon as i hit another roadblock ;) |
| 08:43 |
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mtompset |
hopefully no road blocks. |
| 08:43 |
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mtompset |
Glad to help. :) |
| 08:44 |
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sidd |
bye for now!!! |
| 08:45 |
|
* mtompset |
is happy, "2 people followed without too much difficulty. 1 person confused." |
| 08:45 |
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mtompset |
I think the packages instructions are good. :) |
| 08:48 |
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mtompset |
YAY! The backup is good... |
| 08:48 |
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mtompset |
issues1+old_issues1 = issues2+old_issues2 |
| 08:50 |
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mtompset |
(27 check in s) |
| 08:51 |
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mtompset |
Okay, you still here, cait? |
| 08:51 |
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cait |
yes |
| 08:51 |
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mtompset |
nothing bad would happen if zebraqueue records went missing, right? |
| 08:53 |
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cait |
? |
| 08:53 |
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cait |
you trunating zebraqueue is fine, but you might want to do a complete reindex if you are not sure they were all done by the time you did that |
| 08:53 |
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mtompset |
Okay, that's what I was thinking. |
| 08:56 |
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mtompset |
Our server almost experienced a magnificent failure due to lack of drive space the other day. I'm just confirming the backups look good. |
| 08:57 |
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mtompset |
Just wrote a script to do record counts on restored backups instead of doing a file diff on a mysqldump. |
| 08:58 |
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mtompset |
action_logs, import_biblios, import_records, issues, old_issues, sessions, statistics, and zebraqueue differed. |
| 08:59 |
|
mtompset |
but since action_logs, import_biblios, and import_records are bigger on the current db. I'm going to assume all is well. |
| 08:59 |
|
mtompset |
I confirmed 27 checkins for the issues tables. |
| 08:59 |
|
mtompset |
I'm pretty sure there is a cronjob that cleans up old sessions. |
| 09:00 |
|
mtompset |
I'm confirming everything is indexed right now. |
| 09:01 |
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mtompset |
statistics is larger, so I'm assuming all is well for that. |
| 09:01 |
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| 09:01 |
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cait |
larger now than before? |
| 09:01 |
|
mtompset |
Larger than a previous backup. |
| 09:02 |
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cait |
ah |
| 09:02 |
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mtompset |
That would be expected. And all is indexed. |
| 09:02 |
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sidd |
mtompset: ih, am back :) i just created a library and I see there is concept of group here. Do I need to create it? The newbie guide doesn't talk about it. |
| 09:03 |
|
mtompset |
newbie guide? |
| 09:03 |
|
wahanui |
newbie guide is at http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Newbie_guide |
| 09:03 |
|
mtompset |
Is that what you are reading? |
| 09:03 |
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sidd |
mtompset: yes |
| 09:03 |
|
mtompset |
manuals? |
| 09:03 |
|
mtompset |
manual? |
| 09:03 |
|
wahanui |
manual is at http://www.koha-community.org/documentation |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
sidd: no, you don't have to :) |
| 09:04 |
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mtompset |
That's more of cait's expertise than mine. |
| 09:04 |
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cait |
sidd: as far as I know only search groups are functional right now and that is only interesting if you have a lot of branches and want to add some extra search functionality - and it can be always done later |
| 09:04 |
|
mtompset |
I'm just a Ubuntu developer. :) |
| 09:05 |
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sidd |
cait: thanks |
| 09:05 |
|
sidd |
will go ahead from there. |
| 09:05 |
|
mtompset |
But you might want to save the manual URL. ;) |
| 09:05 |
|
sidd |
brb |
| 09:05 |
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sidd |
mtompset: oh I already have it :) |
| 09:05 |
|
sidd |
was the first thing i did |
| 09:06 |
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mtompset |
sidd++ # reading manual and wiki pages! :) |
| 09:06 |
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cait |
sidd: where are you from? :) |
| 09:06 |
|
sidd |
:) the manual also talks about 3.10 |
| 09:06 |
|
sidd |
is that later? |
| 09:06 |
|
sidd |
am from India |
| 09:06 |
|
mtompset |
3.10 will be released in November. |
| 09:06 |
|
cait |
3.8 is the current stable version, 3.10 will be the next release |
| 09:06 |
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mtompset |
sidd: You aren't VKV are you? |
| 09:07 |
|
sidd |
and the manual is already here? that is so non-standard for the s/w world ;) |
| 09:07 |
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sidd |
mtompset: no, don't think I am |
| 09:07 |
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mtompset |
Vimal ... Sorry, he has a long name. |
| 09:07 |
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mtompset |
That's why I used the initials. |
| 09:08 |
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sidd |
mtompset: I understand. We do have long names when we do have them :0 |
| 09:08 |
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mtompset |
sidd: Where did you get that livecd from? |
| 09:08 |
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mtompset |
(the seriously out of date one) |
| 09:09 |
|
sidd |
it was there on the web somewhere. and google shows it in the first page :( |
| 09:09 |
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mtompset |
ah. |
| 09:09 |
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sidd |
www.osslabs.biz/koha/livecd |
| 09:09 |
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sidd |
mtompset: oh, I just found your VKV :) |
| 09:10 |
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sidd |
vimal kumar v - he's creatd a live CD on ubuntu |
| 09:10 |
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mtompset |
Yes. |
| 09:10 |
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mtompset |
He's been posting on our mailing lists. |
| 09:10 |
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mtompset |
And he is working on getting a newer live CD created. |
| 09:10 |
|
sidd |
great. |
| 09:11 |
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mtompset |
hopefully he'll have found a good process before the time 3.10.0 comes out. |
| 09:11 |
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sidd |
mtompset: live CDs are pretty easy in fedora. or atleast were till fedora core 1 |
| 09:12 |
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mtompset |
given that we have packages, which you have installed for debian-based OSes like Ubuntu and others... |
| 09:12 |
|
sidd |
yes, rpms make it easier i guess |
| 09:12 |
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mtompset |
We're hoping to have the LiveCD in a debian-based OS, so that it installs to the hard drive as if you did the packages installation. |
| 09:13 |
|
sidd |
but good to know help is close :) is marc21 knowledge very important for koha? |
| 09:13 |
|
sidd |
i mean i have a small library and had never heard of marc 21 till a few weeks back |
| 09:14 |
|
sidd |
and I have movies with 2-3 cds each (INdian movies are traditionally 3 hours....) |
| 09:14 |
|
sidd |
so if I want to give only one out of the set, can I do that? |
| 09:14 |
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cait |
sidd: you can get along without very deep knowledge of the standard |
| 09:14 |
|
cait |
it dpeends on your materials and what you want to do |
| 09:14 |
|
* mtompset |
nods. |
| 09:14 |
|
sidd |
and how should I create the item. Item creation shows framework that is marc 21 all through :( |
| 09:15 |
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mtompset |
If you just want to grab the biblio records from some other z39.50 server to do quick data entry, I don't think you need to have to understand it much. |
| 09:15 |
|
sidd |
these are some of the questions I need answers for. Will this be the right place to aks them? |
| 09:15 |
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mtompset |
Have you subscribed to the koha mailing list? |
| 09:15 |
|
sidd |
mtompset: data entry is ok, for around 2500 books, i can import it from my existing xls sheets |
| 09:16 |
|
sidd |
mtompset: no, haven't. will they be patient enough ;) :) |
| 09:16 |
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mtompset |
If you email the koha mailing list, you have more chance of getting a response. Just don't expect answers immediately. |
| 09:16 |
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sidd |
cait: is there a step by step guide (say how-tos) for common things done in koha? |
| 09:16 |
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mtompset |
Remember this is all help provided for free. |
| 09:17 |
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mtompset |
sidd: You might want to check out VKV's blog site. |
| 09:17 |
|
sidd |
mtompset: I know. I am an active member of the fedora chat room at freenode. |
| 09:17 |
|
mtompset |
Perhaps he links to a useful video or such. |
| 09:17 |
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sidd |
mtompset: hmmm...will do that. |
| 09:18 |
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mtompset |
I see he has linked to a lot of videos from one official Koha Service Provider. |
| 09:20 |
|
sidd |
looks good. will read his articles and see if they help me. |
| 09:20 |
|
sidd |
i'll be back...mwah ha ha ha... :) |
| 09:37 |
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mtompset |
Hmmm... osslabs is a paid support provider for koha, but they have a 3.2 koha live cd. |
| 09:39 |
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drojf |
chris_n++ |
| 09:50 |
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drojf |
good day #koha |
| 09:52 |
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mtompset |
greetings, drojf. |
| 09:54 |
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drojf |
hi mtompset |
| 09:58 |
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mtompset |
So burn your eyes further, drojf? |
| 09:59 |
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cait |
chris_n++ indeed |
| 09:59 |
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cait |
hi drojf |
| 09:59 |
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drojf |
heh. just from too little sleep, not the chili :) |
| 09:59 |
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drojf |
hi cait |
| 10:01 |
|
cait |
:) |
| 10:04 |
|
magnuse |
kia ora #koha |
| 10:07 |
|
drojf |
hei magnuse |
| 10:08 |
|
magnuse |
hiya drojf and matts and cait and mtompset |
| 10:08 |
|
mtompset |
Greetings, magnuse. |
| 10:08 |
|
mtompset |
greetings, matts. |
| 10:09 |
|
cait |
hi magnuse :) |
| 10:09 |
|
magnuse |
\o/ |
| 10:11 |
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mtompset |
/o\ |
| 10:19 |
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* magnuse |
wanders off |
