IRC log for #koha, 2024-02-12

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07:27 magnuse \o/
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07:35 reiveune hello
08:12 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha
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08:19 fridolin le bonjour
08:21 paulderscheid[m] bonne soirée
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11:16 * cait waves
11:17 cait paulderscheid[m]: I am making my first steps with VSCode and I saw you wrote the instructions on the wiki - I put some notes about setting the RemoteUser to avoid permission issues int he git repository - maybe you could take a look?
11:17 paulderscheid[m] Looking..
11:17 cait it appears to work nicely afaikt but I am not sure if there is another way/easier way or some other trick I have been missing
11:21 paulderscheid[m] No, you did it exactly right, I think.
11:22 cait maybe we could merge it in with the other instructions
11:23 cait I was not sure about the right sequence, since I did the other steps first
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11:27 oleonard Hi #koha
11:28 cait hi oleonard
11:29 cait paulderscheid[m]: I am a bit stuck on how to merge things together
11:29 paulderscheid[m] I'm on it.
11:30 cait thank you :)
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12:05 tcohen cait: aren't you on vacation :-P
12:06 tcohen Joubu++
12:13 cait tcohen: VSCode is a vacation project
12:13 cait but aren't you on vacation as well?
12:16 tcohen we have the carnival holiday, but I'll be working today and tomorrow, then leave
12:17 cait carnival here ends on Wednesday... i am hiding
12:17 tcohen I'm looking at the failed 23.05 tasks on jenkins.
12:18 tcohen I'm not sure why, but jenkins stopped cleaning up after runs, and
12:18 tcohen that's causing us some hard disk issues
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12:50 ashimema Silly Jenkins
12:52 cait ... sounds like it's oerworked and also needs a vacation
12:52 cait stopped cleaning up sounds like burn out
12:57 magnuse lulz
12:57 cait thx magnuse, was starting to get nervous :)
13:22 tcohen LOL
13:25 ashimema LOL
13:25 ashimema how do we feel about input type="time" ?
13:26 ashimema I'm not sure how accessible it is.. and it doesn't really appear to support setting to 12h vs 24h to me
13:26 cait hm I tihnk those could be issues
13:27 cait we have system preferences to set these things
13:27 ashimema yeah.. I thought so too
13:27 cait usually the browser settings interfering is not what we are fond of
13:27 ashimema exactly
13:27 ashimema OK.. I'll continue to convert Aleisha's work from time pickers to text inputs then
13:43 cait paulderscheid++
13:43 cait ashimema++
13:45 paulderscheid[m] I think a11y of type="time" is ok.
13:46 paulderscheid[m] At least in chromium.
13:46 cait a11y?
13:46 paulderscheid[m] accessibility
13:46 cait I tihnk the problem is that it follows your language settings in the browser
13:46 ashimema from what I was reading it's really variable between browsers still
13:47 cait if you have set ht epreferences in Koha differently we create inconsistency
13:47 ashimema great for mobile... not so much for desktops
13:47 paulderscheid[m] Yeah firefox not so much.
13:47 ashimema apparently
13:47 paulderscheid[m] What js lib are we using again.
13:47 paulderscheid[m] ?
13:47 ashimema we're not for time pickers
13:47 ashimema yet
13:47 ashimema flatpickr for datepickers
13:47 paulderscheid[m] Ah yes, exactly.
13:47 paulderscheid[m] Does it not have a time "mode"?
13:48 ashimema LOL
13:48 ashimema why the **** did I not think to look for that
13:49 ashimema you can stet noCalendar!
13:49 cait i thik it must have something
13:49 paulderscheid[m]
13:49 ashimema and thus turn it into timepicker only
13:49 ashimema nice one
13:49 cait because we need to set time for checkouts?
13:49 paulderscheid[m] Don't beat yourself up about it, I have these *** moments 10x a day.
13:49 cait paulderscheid++ again heh
13:49 ashimema this is the bug that adds opening/clsing times to branches
13:49 ashimema lol
13:50 cait i know
13:50 cait i meant when checking out, we use the time thing already
13:50 cait becouse hourly loans
13:51 ashimema excellent
13:51 ashimema thanks cait
13:53 Joubu data-flatpickr-enable-time="true"
13:54 cait I'll be around some.... but I have a book shelf in need of reorganizing
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13:56 ashimema I need to also disable date Joubu
13:56 * ashimema is just checking if we have such an option in our wrapper
13:57 ashimema nope
13:57 ashimema we don't have a passthrough for that yet
14:02 ashimema grr
14:02 paulderscheid[m] I merged the content of the wiki cait. Would you take a look and decide whether it's clear enough?
14:02 ashimema our wrapper means that I get dates output even if I select noCalendar
14:07 ashimema Joubu is there a way to disable the 'Yesyerday', Today, Tomorrow buttons we add to flatpickr easily?
14:10 cait will do in a few minutes
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14:11 oleonard-away ashimema: Maybe you could modify flatpickr_defaults before calling flatpickr?
14:11 cait ashimema: i believe they don't show in some settings - at least the yesterday doesn't when past dates aren't allowed IIRC
14:12 ashimema mm
14:12 ashimema I was hoping it was a case we already had
14:12 ashimema adding patches to allow for that functionality inline to this patchset feels a bit wrong..
14:15 Joubu ashimema: search for "flatpickr-pastdate" in
14:15 Joubu if block from line 142
14:16 Joubu I don't think you can disable the 3 of them, but why would you?
14:16 ashimema I've added options['plugins'] = [] to just drop the plugin outright
14:16 ashimema we won't want the buttons to appear at all for time only pickers.. they don't make sense.. even if 'disabled'
14:16 ashimema because it's TIME only
14:16 ashimema I don't want a full on date picker
14:17 ashimema I've sorted it
14:17 Joubu ok, I didn't have the context
14:17 Joubu I think you need a new data-flatpickr-time-only attribute and deal with it in
14:18 ashimema yup
14:18 ashimema that's exactly what I've done 🙂
14:30 tcohen are those options documented somewhere?
14:30 tcohen I only see data-flatpickr-enable-time right now
14:31 ashimema they don't exist
14:31 ashimema I've just added one
14:31 ashimema and no.. I don't think they're well documented
14:31 tcohen data-flatpickr-futureinclusive
14:32 tcohen good job for those involved on though. I like it when we are taht consistent
14:32 tcohen :-D
14:33 ashimema as usual, I'm having to do a lot more than I indended to get this up to QA level ☹️
14:37 * cait sends cookies
14:38 cait paulderscheid[m]: you used footnotes, I am impressed
14:39 paulderscheid[m] Thought it made sense there.
14:44 cait I think i got it
14:44 cait and changed the more global file now
14:46 cait and I broke all the things :D
14:47 cait I have added something else to the conf file and now it doesn't want to open the file to fix it
14:52 cait ok, forgot a comma, fixed
14:54 paulderscheid[m] So it works? :D
14:56 cait I think so?
14:57 ashimema grr
14:57 tcohen Joubu: around?
14:57 ashimema of course.. we don't have the other end either.. i.e. time formatting on output 😐️
14:57 ashimema for either tt or js ☹️
14:57 ashimema always expect to be handling full datetimes
14:57 Joubu tcohen: yes
15:07 cait tcohen: the VSCode + Dev Containers now works with all the right permissions, you should try it sometime :)
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15:12 oleonard Well well well look who decided to drag themselves out of bed, it's kidclamp!
15:12 tcohen cait: I saw we could add a .devcontainers/config.xml file somewhere <.<
15:12 kidclamp :-)
15:12 tcohen :-D
15:12 cait tcohen: have a look at the solution Paul found - maybe it can still be improved, but for now things seem to be good
15:13 tcohen where should I look at?
15:13 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ha-testing-docker
15:15 paulderscheid[m] Thanks for proofreading and adjusting the content cait++
15:15 cait you are welcome - team work :)
15:17 tcohen paulderscheid[m]: why Perlnavigator?
15:17 tcohen I mean, I can switch to it, but wondering what made you choose it
15:18 paulderscheid[m] It just works™️
15:18 cait from what I have seen it does more than the extensoin you use
15:18 paulderscheid[m] And in neovim + vscode
15:18 paulderscheid[m] Which is a big plus for me.
15:18 cait and I also have symbols for methods now working with only perl navigator
15:19 paulderscheid[m] The only caveat is performance rn.
15:19 tcohen ok, I love this move to language server implementations
15:19 cait it highlighted missing modules, which the Perl one didn't for example
15:19 tcohen but the main advantage would be to make it trigger plack or tests, etc and so being able to set breakpoints, etc
15:19 cait the expert and the noob explaining heh
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15:20 paulderscheid[m] Ok, I get what you mean. Maybe not perlnavigator's strong suit.
15:21 tcohen I'll give it a try for sure
15:21 ashimema I like it
15:22 tcohen I like us to use the same toolset as well, more team work dealing with the little annoying details
15:22 paulderscheid[m] perlnavigator is definitely here to stay. At least that's what I think.
15:23 ashimema bscan is active and open to suggestions
15:23 ashimema which is a good sign for perlnavigator
15:23 ashimema I'm liking it in nvim
15:23 paulderscheid[m] That is very true.
15:23 ashimema though there isn't the same sort of container handling yet available for nvim.. which is a shame
15:24 ashimema so to get the best out to pn I had to install all the koha dependancies outside ktd again
15:24 tcohen we could just have nvim in KTD
15:24 ashimema which was  shame
15:24 paulderscheid[m] Yeah, that's also true. Though you could try this if you find the time ashimema.
15:24 paulderscheid[m] And then tell me how to get it to work :P
15:24 ashimema I went Lazy in the end btw.. It was too much work narrowing down nvim issues.. one fix just lead to another issue each time
15:25 paulderscheid[m] Haven't invested much time yet.
15:26 paulderscheid[m] Would be cool to have nvim in all images and then just pull in your config.
15:27 tcohen we could add `ktd --nvim`
15:27 ashimema 🙂
15:28 paulderscheid[m] I like where this is going.
15:28 Joubu kidclamp: I've pushed a new commit for memberentry, to better fix 'opadd'. Let me know if you agree
15:29 paulderscheid[m] If you consider it, please use v0.8 or higher.
15:29 Joubu kidclamp: And... I had a hard time with reports/guided_reports. Just pushed an other commit to fix it, but a second look (at least testing) would be good.
15:30 paulderscheid[m] Or better yet v0.9 or higher.
15:37 kidclamp will test Joubu
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15:59 tcohen bye all
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16:16 fridolin bye
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16:21 kidclamp Joubu: Are we okay with using links for the get requests? Do we not want forms just for consistency and being able to identify in the future? I don't mind, just checking
16:24 Joubu what do you want to identify?
16:24 Joubu if you are talking about guided_reports, I have replaced the add_form/list op with links, which is more inline with what we have in other places I think
16:28 kidclamp I guess it doesn't matter - we are reviewing all form submissions, but if they are just links we assume they are stateless
16:30 Joubu if they are links they must be stateless, yes
16:54 caroline I somehow only now discovered the "timeline" tab in About Koha, and went in search of my first ever patch, it was "Add Missing space in (5 years ago) heh!
16:55 oleonard gotta start somewhere!
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17:17 cait caroline++
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18:18 Southpaw1496[m] <ashimema> "Like marcedit.. from memory that..." <- I tried setting this up but I couldn't get the z309.50 part to work (it requires installing the z309.50 library externally for some reason), which sort of defeats the purpose. Is there any other software that does this? The only other one I found was [Bibdata]( which is Windows-only, so I can't use it easily.
18:20 ashimema Pass I'm afraid
18:20 ashimema It's not something I've personally tried to do in nearly a decade
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19:05 reiveune bye
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21:20 JasonGreene[m] on this page,[…]ic/bdsummary.html  what should be used for "editor"
21:21 caroline 260$b or 264$b
21:21 caroline that's for publisher
21:22 caroline if it's in the sense of "intellectual editor" like for an anthology or soemthing like that, it would be 700$a
21:22 JasonGreene[m] ok,, my old system has Hard Cover or paperback
21:23 JasonGreene[m] in that field
21:23 caroline ah, then probably 020$q (qualifier for the isbn) or 250$a (edition, like "First edition")
21:24 JasonGreene[m] thanks
21:24 caroline +1

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