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| 08:01 |
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cait2 |
good morning #koha |
| 08:01 |
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cait2 |
anyone around? |
| 08:03 |
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Annelisterman[m] |
Physically yes, mentally.. perhaps |
| 08:05 |
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cait2 |
:) |
| 08:05 |
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davidnind |
good evening! |
| 08:06 |
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cait |
hi davidnind! |
| 08:06 |
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davidnind |
:-) |
| 08:06 |
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cait |
hope you two had nice christmas holidays! |
| 08:09 |
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Annelisterman[m] |
It was pretty quiet. Some snow clearing to do. :) |
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davidnind |
it was good - had Xmas at my niece's, and visited cousins - hope you had a nice day as well! |
| 08:11 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
morning all! |
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cait |
Annelisterman[m], davidnind: sorry, got pulled away by restarts for updates... had a lovely christmas with family as well :) |
| 09:13 |
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ashimema |
morning #koha |
| 09:40 |
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aude_c[m] |
'Morning! |
| 09:45 |
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| 09:45 |
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saa |
how to enable virtualkeyboard in koha for regional language search |
| 09:46 |
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saa |
in opac |
| 09:51 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
saa: I think this was asked once a long time ago, I found a response linking to https://greywyvern.com/code/javascript/keyboard/ |
| 09:51 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
see "Installation".. you'll probably need to put that js in the html of the opac header |
| 09:52 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
I don't know how you would use it in Koha's search bar though |
| 09:53 |
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saa |
right thats what i am wondering |
| 09:54 |
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saa |
is there any simple way to copy paste some script and enable in OPAC so that users can search in different languages |
| 09:55 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
the "right" way of doing it would be enabling the installed languages in the system preference OPACLanguages (and make sure opaclanguagesdisplay is enabled) |
| 09:55 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
but you would need to install the languages first (I think, I've never done it myself :-) ) |
| 09:56 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
ah, sorry, misunderstood.. that's for display, not for searching |
| 09:57 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
I think someone else will have to chime in on that, I don't have any experience with searching different languages |
| 09:58 |
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saa |
i hope someone will guide |
| 10:02 |
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saa |
one more query opac suggestions autofill if enabled will it help like google display words while searching |
| 10:02 |
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saa |
after enabling is it necessary to restart any service to see this feature working in opac |
| 10:08 |
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cait |
We don't have an auto-complete feature at the moment, but I believe there are some snippets in the jQuery library maybe |
| 10:09 |
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cait |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/JQuery_Library |
| 10:10 |
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cait |
there is also no feature to enable other screen keyboards, there is a self made solution you could copy here: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]C_screen_keyboard - but it's a bit limited and could be better looking (I wrote it, so I know) |
| 10:11 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
oh, neat |
| 10:11 |
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krimsonkharne[m] |
cait++ |
| 10:19 |
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cait |
there is also Bug 12815 - but it seems to haven't moved in a while - maybe a comment would help |
| 10:19 |
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cait |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=12815 |
| 10:19 |
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huginn` |
Bug 12815: enhancement, P3, ---, indradg, ASSIGNED , Adding browser based multi-lingual jquery.ime input method support to Koha |
| 10:30 |
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saa |
thank you cait let me explore |
| 11:17 |
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tcohen |
morning |
| 11:17 |
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ashimema |
morning tcohen |
| 11:18 |
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ashimema |
hope you had a good xmas |
| 11:27 |
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* cait |
waves at ashimema and tcohen |
| 11:28 |
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tcohen |
hi cait! |
| 11:42 |
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cait |
hm why are license users limited to staff with permissions in the ERM module? |
| 11:42 |
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cait |
I had expected that I could also add patrons/members of the institution staff |
| 11:42 |
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cait |
but maybe I am misunderstanding what users is meaning here |
| 11:43 |
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ashimema |
pass |
| 11:43 |
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ashimema |
the chaps in the know here aren't around to day either I'm afraid |
| 11:44 |
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tcohen |
not on my wheelhouse |
| 11:44 |
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cait |
i found Bug 33427 |
| 11:45 |
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cait |
thx for replying anyway :) at least the bug tells me I didn't miss something fundamental |
| 11:46 |
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tcohen |
bug 33427 |
| 11:46 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=33427 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, NEW , Managing individual users with access to subscriptions |
| 11:47 |
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tcohen |
silly VPN issue sorted. back to work! |
| 11:47 |
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tcohen |
@later tell Joubu I don't have metrics, but it feels like the weblate server is a slow one |
| 11:47 |
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huginn` |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
| 11:48 |
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tcohen |
I've been looking at the logs while working on translations, the moments it got stuck the Postgres process was using CPU like crazy |
| 11:48 |
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Annelisterman[m] |
I was just about to complain that Weblate is soooooo slow. x) |
| 11:49 |
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tcohen |
Annelisterman[m]: when you translate something, it gets applied to all other versions |
| 11:49 |
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tcohen |
that's the step that takes a lot of time, sometimes :-P |
| 11:49 |
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tcohen |
and the statistics update as well |
| 11:50 |
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Annelisterman[m] |
I just changed to next translation without any changes and it has been thinking about it for at least 3-4 minutes. |
| 11:51 |
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tcohen |
get a DeLorean and move a few minutes in the future |
| 11:51 |
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Annelisterman[m] |
oh, that would be handy |
| 11:52 |
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tcohen |
server load is around 9 |
| 11:52 |
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tcohen |
with 4 CPU |
| 11:53 |
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Annelisterman[m] |
9 of 100? |
| 11:53 |
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cait |
it can be super fast too, it was in testing initially |
| 11:53 |
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cait |
maybe we need to tweak configuration/setup |
| 11:53 |
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tcohen |
900 of 100, Annelisterman[m] |
| 11:53 |
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tcohen |
cait: maybe it needs a bigger/faster server |
| 11:54 |
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tcohen |
it has plenty of memory |
| 11:55 |
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Annelisterman[m] |
mostly it is ok and quite fast but there are times when it's just pondering something really deep and meaningful. |
| 11:55 |
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cait |
maybe Postgres needs more resources? |
| 11:56 |
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cait |
but I am guessing, it just seems that this was almost our issue with performance recently :) |
| 11:56 |
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tcohen |
asking my sysadmin to look at it |
| 12:01 |
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cait |
tcohen++ sysadmin++ |
| 12:50 |
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tcohen |
ok, we did some tuning |
| 12:50 |
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tcohen |
and we have less IO load and IO wait |
| 12:51 |
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tcohen |
and Postgres uses much more memory |
| 12:51 |
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tcohen |
but it seems anytime someone enters somewhere no one was at before |
| 12:51 |
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tcohen |
it takes a lot of resources to build a cache or smth |
| 12:51 |
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cait |
ah yeah, I noticed that - the second time it speeds up |
| 12:52 |
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tcohen |
the HDD is an old one |
| 12:52 |
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tcohen |
and there was just too much IO |
| 12:52 |
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tcohen |
gabriel++ |
| 13:10 |
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cait |
anyone else seen a lot of jobs getting stuck as new in rabbitMQ? |
| 13:11 |
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cait |
Elasticsearch indexing jobs especially |
| 13:21 |
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ashimema |
Es had it's own worker now didn't it |
| 13:30 |
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cait |
it should yes |
| 13:31 |
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cait |
from what I gathered so far there are 3 processes handling the task queue |
| 13:31 |
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cait |
the "normal" the "long tasks" and the elastic one |
| 13:40 |
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cait |
ashimema: do your libraries run with RabbitMQ? do you have any issues with jobs not getting done? |
| 13:52 |
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ashimema |
We turn it off |
| 13:52 |
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cait |
ok thx |
| 13:53 |
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cait |
did you notice any disadvantages without? |
| 13:53 |
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cait |
and how do you turn it off actually? is there a switch somewhere? |
| 13:55 |
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ashimema |
Just kill rabbit |
| 13:56 |
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ashimema |
The workers will then fall back to polling the database |
| 14:00 |
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cait |
since introduction of rabbitMQ this channel got more violent |
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| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
lol |
| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
i don't know who is using rabbit honestly |
| 14:14 |
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cait |
I know someone who is trying |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
I think in theory if your going to use multiple workers for the same queue to process jobs in parallel the rabbit is better |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
but so far I've not really seen any need to do that |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
and really, not many of our jobs are actually designed for such running anyway yet |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
I think I'd be pro putting a switch in rather than the current behaviour of filling the logs and putting a warning in the about oage |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
yup |
| 14:17 |
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cait |
can you explain that last bit? |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
currently database polling is a fallback. if you uninstall or stop the rabbit service, SQL will take over. |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
but |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
we'll spit out a warning in the logs forever |
| 14:23 |
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ashimema |
and put a message on the about page |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
oh that's not realyl nice |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
yeah, a proper switch would do better especially if a lot of people are running with SQL |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
yup |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
do you want me to file a bug for that? |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
.... and bad news on weblate - down for anyone but me? |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
502 bad gateway on submitting a translation |
| 14:26 |
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ashimema |
feel free to submit a bug cait |
| 14:26 |
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ashimema |
I don't think it would be all that hard to achieve |
| 14:26 |
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ashimema |
but I also know some people are keen to rip out the sql polling support entirely instead |
| 14:27 |
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ashimema |
I don't know the answer |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
you mean people might disagree... I can live with that |
| 14:31 |
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cait |
bug 35655 |
| 14:31 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35655 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Make it possible to switch off RabbitMQ without any warns in logs/about page |
| 14:32 |
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cait |
tcohen: could you check on the weblate server again? |
| 15:10 |
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cait |
it's not working at all for me right now |
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* cait |
waves |
| 16:42 |
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tuxayo |
260 working runs of the tests for Bug 35506 so far :) |
| 16:42 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=35506 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor, ASSIGNED , selenium/regressions.t is failing randomly |
| 17:01 |
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cait |
ashimema or tcohen still around? |
| 17:02 |
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cait |
RM question about a patch |
| 17:02 |
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ashimema |
Phone only now I'm afraid |
| 17:02 |
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cait |
maybe it's easy |
| 17:02 |
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cait |
I am reviewing 31297 |
| 17:02 |
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ashimema |
Fire away |
| 17:02 |
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cait |
you changed the database structure |
| 17:02 |
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ashimema |
Bug 31279 |
| 17:02 |
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cait |
i need to run dbic right? |
| 17:02 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31279 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, CLOSED INVALID, Getting error 500 while doing a search in koha catalogue |
| 17:02 |
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cait |
h |
| 17:02 |
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cait |
31297 |
| 17:03 |
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ashimema |
Bug 31297 |
| 17:03 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31297 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Passed QA , Cannot add new subscription patterns from edit subscription page |
| 17:03 |
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ashimema |
Lol |
| 17:03 |
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cait |
double checked, I got the number right in my DBRev commit |
| 17:03 |
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ashimema |
Okies |
| 17:04 |
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ashimema |
Yes, you do need to run dbic |
| 17:04 |
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cait |
so i ran dbic and i have a change in SubscriptionNumberpattern.pm |
| 17:04 |
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ashimema |
And commit the result 🙂 |
| 17:04 |
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cait |
ok cool :) |
| 17:04 |
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cait |
on the right path then |
| 17:04 |
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ashimema |
Coolioes |
| 17:04 |
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cait |
should i just rwap it in the DBRev patch or better keep separate? |
| 17:05 |
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cait |
hm looks like we keep them separate from history |
| 17:07 |
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cait |
got it; I think :) |
| 17:10 |
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ashimema |
Nice one cait |
| 17:12 |
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cait |
another first - but getting there |
| 17:15 |
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cait |
ashimema++ # thx! |
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