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mtj |
TriveniChandriki[m]: https://matrix.org/_matrix/med[…]nYuyMBv/image.png |
| 03:16 |
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mtj |
^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap' to a number greater than zero |
| 03:18 |
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mtj |
..else your item's maximum fine will always be zero? |
| 03:22 |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Ok sir |
| 03:23 |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Tqsm sir ur helping me lot. You are great sir |
| 04:18 |
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mtj |
you are welcome 🧁 |
| 04:20 |
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mtj |
dcook_: that strange devscripts problem got fixed in bookworm, with libsoap-lite-perl_1.27-3 |
| 04:21 |
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mtj |
the dep for libossp-uuid-perl got dropped |
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mtj |
https://packages.debian.org/bo[…]libsoap-lite-perl |
| 04:26 |
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mtj |
^ manually installing that pkg, should fix the devscripts conflict |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
Ok sir |
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NikolayGospodinov[m] |
Hello, everyone. When I create a child record from a parent record. In the child record I see who is the parent. Is there a way to see who the children are from the parent record? |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
<mtj> "^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap..." <- Done it sir. For this we have to do fine.pl one line is there exist we have comment that line. It will show overdue book fine in patron account. |
| 08:28 |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
<mtj> "^ ...set your 'overdue fines cap..." <- Again thanku so much sir |
| 08:30 |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
#koha thanku everyone many issues fixing for urs suggestions |
| 09:10 |
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cait1 |
check your circulation rules |
| 09:10 |
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cait1 |
the fines cap is the max fine that can be put on an item |
| 09:10 |
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cait1 |
and make sure you have entered all with a decimal dot (not a comma) |
| 09:17 |
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TriveniChandriki[m] |
<cait1> "the fines cap is the max fine..." <- Fine.pl file we have to change sir. It's working now. |
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tcohen |
hola #koha |
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tcohen |
kidclamp++ |
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ashimema |
morning tcohen |
| 10:53 |
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tcohen |
hey ashimema |
| 10:53 |
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tcohen |
jenkins is green \o/ |
| 10:53 |
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ashimema |
I saw.. great work dude! |
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tcohen |
next meeting |
| 11:35 |
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tcohen |
next meeting? |
| 11:35 |
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tcohen |
next meetings? |
| 11:49 |
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tcohen |
who manages huggin? |
| 11:49 |
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ashimema |
galen I think |
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tcohen |
gmcharlt: |
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marcelr |
o/ |
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tcohen |
\o |
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caroline |
good morning! |
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emlam |
Morning everyone! |
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* cait1 |
waves |
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| 13:39 |
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caroline |
My brain needs help with holds... |
| 13:40 |
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caroline |
If OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup is set to Don't allow and circulation rules allow on-shelf holds only if at least one is unavailable |
| 13:41 |
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caroline |
(i.e. we don't want people making on-shelf holds if the copy at their library is available, they can only place holds if the copy at their library is out) |
| 13:41 |
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caroline |
(if that makes sense) |
| 13:42 |
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caroline |
would those settings be right? |
| 13:43 |
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caroline |
Right now, if OPACHoldsIfAvailableAtPickup is set to Don't allow and onshelf holds to if any unavailable, and I have a record with one copy checked out and one copy available, the person at the branch where it is available can place a hold for pickup at their own library |
| 13:44 |
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caroline |
that is a bug right? |
| 13:54 |
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cait1 |
let me re-read this |
| 13:55 |
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cait1 |
it sounds like a bug |
| 13:55 |
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cait1 |
it should not allow a hold on the available at branch one in any case |
| 13:55 |
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cait1 |
of onshelf holds |
| 13:55 |
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cait1 |
because it's pickup branch = item on shelf |
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caroline |
thanks, it's so convoluted my brain is refusing to process it hehe |
| 13:55 |
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cait1 |
did you check if the available item can actually fill that hold? |
| 13:56 |
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caroline |
You mean if I place the hold, will it appear on Hold tu pull? |
| 13:56 |
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cait1 |
just to make sure there is no interferring rule or setting |
| 13:56 |
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cait1 |
it would make sens eif the system thinks you will get the other item |
| 13:56 |
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cait1 |
i think if you return the other and it triggers the hold |
| 13:57 |
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cait1 |
hm no |
| 13:57 |
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cait1 |
return the available one... and it fills the hold, it should be |
| 13:57 |
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caroline |
If on-shelf holds is set to 'Yes', the patron cannot place the hold on the copy from their library |
| 13:57 |
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mtj |
hi JacobOMara[m], i think i spotted a bug with a cherry-picked commit on 22.11 |
| 13:57 |
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mtj |
https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]2b897d2a2e5450f98 |
| 13:58 |
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ashimema |
fire away mtj |
| 13:58 |
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ashimema |
I caught it go in in the wrong order.. |
| 13:59 |
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ashimema |
but I've since backported the css removal stuff.. so hopefully I got it back to working |
| 13:59 |
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mtj |
ah, ok |
| 13:59 |
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ashimema |
or are there still some issues? |
| 13:59 |
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cait1 |
just a followup to yesterday's questio from perplexedtheta: is it possible to build 22.11.03 packages locally right now? or is there some general issues and better wait for 22.11.04? |
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mtj |
hi cait1, i think its possible |
| 14:00 |
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ashimema |
it should be possible.. but easier with .04 once it's out |
| 14:00 |
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ashimema |
our build actually has some extra backports and I think it's possibly those that have been causing us issues here. |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
our last 22.11.ptfs build built though. |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
but it has a custom commit at the top |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
I'm about to rebase i on current 22.11.x to check it without that extra final commit |
| 14:02 |
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cait1 |
hm so maybe we'll have a go, but don't spend a loto f time on fixing if we run into problems |
| 14:02 |
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mtj |
ashimema: i think 22.11.x still needs 587ab3d applied |
| 14:02 |
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mtj |
587ab3d) |
| 14:03 |
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mtj |
oops |
| 14:03 |
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mtj |
https://github.com/Koha-Commun[…]8ff2b9369651b7a67 |
| 14:03 |
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cait1 |
.04 schedule for hackfest week still? |
| 14:03 |
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mtj |
cait1: sounds good to me :) |
| 14:03 |
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ashimema |
yup |
| 14:04 |
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ashimema |
we're going to go through the process together.. see if there's anything to refine/improve |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
lol |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
you're commit message and then the patch seem like oposites to me.. haha |
| 14:06 |
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mtj |
674 $file_map->{'koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/vue/dist/erm.js.LICENSE.txt'} = 'blib/INTRANET_TMPL_DIR/prog/js/vue/dist/erm.js.LICENSE.txt'; |
| 14:07 |
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mtj |
..in Makefile.PL, aah, so thats where the file comes from :) |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
LOL |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
that backport cherry-pick gave i completely different outcomes! |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
wtf |
| 14:09 |
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mtj |
yeah, a bit weird |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
OK.. I've re-cherry-picked it and it looks better this time |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
just checking with colleagues here that I'm not going to clash |
| 14:14 |
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mtj |
looks like the patch order for Makefile.PL was mixed-up on 22.11 |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
yeah, it was |
| 14:14 |
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mtj |
..and some commits got accidentally squashed |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
Jacob jumped the gun on teh follow-up.. |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
we'd opted not to backport the build stuff.. |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
then he backported the follow-up from you |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
at the time I didn't think it was a big deal.. |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
then later I decided we should go ahead with backporting the build stuff.. to keep in line with master a bit better on the build front for this LTS release. |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
and I think it was my second bit that screwed the pooch as it were |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
hopefully all fixed now though. |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
just pushed |
| 14:16 |
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mtj |
np, the Makefile.PL files look identical for master and 22.11 |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
I've also had a chat to the team here about checking dependencies a little more carefully before back-porting.. i take full responsability.. bad teaching on my part 😜 |
| 14:16 |
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mtj |
looks fixed :) |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
takes a whilst to get up to speed on all these things.. I'm super happy with them as a team though.. they're munching through it all and keeping everything moving great :0 |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
I've also pushed our .ptfs branch rebased on this lot.. so that'll trigger the PTFS_22.11_D11 test run followed by a PTFS_22.11_BUILD run 🙂 |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
which should prove this all works 🙂 |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
do you autobuild packages somewhere? |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
I have memory of that vaguelly |
| 14:19 |
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ashimema |
we have it set up to only try and build the package if all the tests have passed on our branch first 🙂 |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
doh.. looks like 22.11.x is failing tests at the minute for other reasons.. |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
I best jump on that |
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perplexedtheta |
o/ |
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mtj |
ashimema, perplexedtheta https://gitlab.com/mjames/koha-build-pkg |
| 15:23 |
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mtj |
thats the pkg build scripts |
| 15:24 |
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mtj |
$ bash ./0-build-22.11.sh |
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* mtj |
apologies for its 'jazzy' style 🎷💨 |
| 15:31 |
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ashimema |
Cool |
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tundunf |
hi all! |
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ashimema |
Hi tundun |
| 15:57 |
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tundunf |
quick q: is there any way to choose the number of items to pull in 'reservations to pull'? |
| 15:58 |
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cait1 |
what do you mean by choose? |
| 15:59 |
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cait1 |
it shoudl tell you in "patrons with olds" (3rd column) how many items need pulling |
| 15:59 |
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cait1 |
hm better: the first column "Pull this many items" |
| 16:00 |
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tundunf |
Ah ignore me! I was misreading the column headings. |
| 16:01 |
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tundunf |
we've been having issues with bib-level on-shelf reservations and I'm trying to convince colleagues to enable item-level reservations to curb this |
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cait1 |
maybe also have a look at the holds queue report as an alternative for a pick list |
| 16:02 |
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cait1 |
what type of issues have you seen with bib-level? |
| 16:02 |
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cait1 |
we mostly do only bib-level holds i think, apart from serials |
| 16:04 |
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perplexedtheta |
Where I used to work, we did item-level reservations only and it was really effective at halting reservation clashes (we disallowed reservations on items on loan) |
| 16:04 |
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perplexedtheta |
We only had one branch, and had no serials - only books and equipment |
| 16:05 |
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perplexedtheta |
Kilometerage will vary from library to library. But we had positive experience with it |
| 16:06 |
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cait1 |
it means you'll have to wait longer as a patron |
| 16:06 |
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cait1 |
hm or more: there might be a clash of terminology here |
| 16:06 |
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cait1 |
reservations sometimes means holds and other times it's bookings on available things |
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cait1 |
if all items of a handbook I need are checked out, the record level will be the quickest way to get me whatever item |
| 16:07 |
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perplexedtheta |
Ah, en-GB: reservation == hold |
| 16:07 |
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cait1 |
especially with students it's often hard to tell who will return an item first, even if you see the due date |
| 16:07 |
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cait1 |
and then there is reserves too... |
| 16:07 |
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cait1 |
so we probably should check first we talk about the same use cases lol |
| 16:08 |
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tundunf |
the main problem is that when a reservation is placed on a book with multiple copies, other users aren't available to loan copies on the shelf until the reservation is satisfied. |
| 16:08 |
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cait1 |
that's configuration |
| 16:09 |
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cait1 |
I belive you can change that so they can still be checked out |
| 16:09 |
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tundunf |
ah I see, I'll review our settings! thank you |
| 16:09 |
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cait1 |
looking for it, give me a moment |
| 16:10 |
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cait1 |
there this one for not blockign renewals: AllowRenewalIfOtherItemsAvailable |
| 16:11 |
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cait1 |
i clearly remember the discussion about the user that already has the item in the cart... |
| 16:11 |
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cait1 |
and that checkout shsould be allowed then - did you verify it really blocks? |
| 16:11 |
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cait1 |
ah here: AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSCO |
| 16:12 |
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cait1 |
AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSIP |
| 16:12 |
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tundunf |
Thank you - I'll have a look! |
| 16:12 |
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cait1 |
i think the in the staff interface Koha just asks what you want to do and you can check it out |
| 16:12 |
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cait1 |
you are welcome, bbl #koha :) |
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ashimema |
is there not also an override permission or preference or something cait1? |
| 16:29 |
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tundunf |
It just blocked me from checking out a copy of a book on the shelf with a reservation on it and I can see that the AllowItemsOnHoldCheckoutSIP was set to "Don't allow", I've switched this to Allow and was able to check out a book at a self-service kiosk |
| 16:30 |
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tundunf |
Thanks for your help both, I don't know how I missed that syspref :) |
| 16:31 |
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ashimema |
There's a lot of prefs out there, glad you found it tundunf |
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tcohen |
PedroAmorim[m]: how did you find the error? |
| 17:33 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
was implementing new routes and was having trouble so I ran the swagger-cli validate to fix my own errors |
| 17:33 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
after I fixed mine, ran it again and stumbled upon it |
| 17:37 |
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tcohen |
in this particular case, I'm not sure we can solve it in a good way |
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tcohen |
with OpenAPIv2 |
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fridolin |
hellow |
| 18:11 |
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PedroAmorim[m] |
hi |
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caroline |
I have a notice/tt question |
| 18:12 |
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Riccardo |
Hello, I am writing to request assistance with the design and implementation of a digital library using the controlled digital lending (CDL) system with Koha as the library management software. I am interested in using Koha to manage our digital collections and to provide access to our patrons through CDL. However, I am not familiar with the technical aspects of the CDL system and would appreciate any guidance or support in implementing this system. |
| 18:12 |
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caroline |
There is this line in ACCOUNT_CREDIT |
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caroline |
[%- PROCESS credit_type_description credit_type = credit.credit_type |
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caroline |
-%] |
| 18:13 |
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caroline |
the notice doesn't print the credit_type_description in French, even though it is translated in accounts.inc |
| 18:13 |
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caroline |
where is it taking it if not there? |
| 18:15 |
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emlam |
I think there's a page in the Administration module where debit/credit types can be specified like authorized values - maybe it's pulling it from there? |
| 18:16 |
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caroline |
I translated it there too and it's still showing up in English on the notice |
| 18:17 |
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caroline |
Riccardo, if I understand correctly, CDL is basically like lending books, but digital files? I would say to catalog them as records with items like you would for print and check those "items" out |
| 18:27 |
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Riccardo |
No i need a professional system that control that book's file is unusefull at the end of lending. |
| 18:28 |
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caroline |
as far as I know, Koha doesn't do that |
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Riccardo |
Ok! Any one know how to do it? Cost and if it's applicable to a little school library? |
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