IRC log for #koha, 2021-08-18

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02:41 Wainui Hi RMaints etc - just wondering if anyone knows if I should backport the following bugs to 19.11.x
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05:20 reiveune hello
05:20 wahanui hi, reiveune
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06:53 alex_a Bonjour
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07:45 ashimema morning #koha
07:49 ashimema any UI people around... do we have a JS equivilent to our AV template helpers?
07:50 ashimema as in '[% AuthorisedValues.GetByCode('CCODE', item.ccode) | html %]'
07:50 ashimema but in JS so I can manipulate ajax data
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08:29 * cait waves
08:29 ashimema hi cait
08:30 ashimema working with api's and js is a bit of a pain still in koha :(
08:41 cait ashimema: not responsible for htat ;)
08:41 ashimema mm
08:43 magnuse ashimema: any suggestions for improvement?
08:52 ashimema bug 28874 would be a start
08:52 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28874 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , We need javascript equivalents to many of our TT plugins
08:52 ashimema we have lots of nice helpers and include for TT now.. but they obviously can't be used with ajax responses.. not easily.
08:53 ashimema like, I was looking at ajax datatables for some area's.. to improve performance and load things on the fly..
08:53 ashimema but, we butcher our column content so much with various tt plugins that it's a huge amount of work to get those displays back..
08:54 ashimema we've been doing good things for translations.. and there are already bugs for date display handling
08:54 ashimema but yeah.. things like linked/unlinked bib title display..
08:54 ashimema authorised value descriptions displays
08:54 ashimema they're a pain right now
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09:02 cait filing a bug was a good first step :)
09:03 cait hm 80 in queue...
09:04 ashimema mmm
09:05 * ashimema grapples with not for loan vs withdrawn for bundles..
09:07 cait hm does someone know if this translates?         [% IF ( ISSUE.note ) -%]
09:07 cait +                                                           [% SET note_action = "Edit note" %]
09:07 cait +                                                        [% ELSE -%]
09:07 cait +                                                           [% SET note_action = "Add note" %]
09:07 cait +                                                        [% END %]
09:09 ashimema erm.. I think it does.. but I'm by no means a pro with translations
09:09 ashimema humm
09:09 ashimema not sure actually.
09:10 ashimema setting a string using a variable.. seems a little odd with what we do already
09:11 cait i am not sure, because then a lot of the variable assignments would show up in po
09:12 ashimema yeah..
09:12 ashimema that's what made me wonder
09:12 ashimema perhaps it's not
09:12 * cait hides from oleonard
09:12 ashimema hehe
09:12 ashimema how do people use withdrawn vs not for loan.. ?
09:13 ashimema humm.. just brought up in training
09:14 ashimema for items in the edit item/add item form.. would it make sense to change
09:14 ashimema 'Permanent location' to 'Home library' and 'Current location' to 'Holding library'
09:14 ashimema to better reflect they're libraries not shelf locations  ;)
09:14 cait yes
09:14 cait i think we did that
09:15 cait but it's coming from the frameworks
09:15 ashimema ?
09:15 cait the descriptions on this form are coming from the frameworks, so translations may vary
09:15 cait and i think we made changes over time
09:15 ashimema aha, I see
09:15 cait so there might be version differences too
09:21 ashimema thanks.. that's useful to know
09:21 ashimema I had forgotten it comes from the framework
09:23 ashimema oh..
09:23 ashimema it doesn't appear to be getting those descriptions properly on this system then
09:38 cait ashimema: withdrawn is used in our libraires as "removed from the library"
09:38 cait to your earlier question
09:38 cait maybe a translation issue?
09:38 cait i've wondered about this since you have been asking
09:39 ashimema ?
09:39 ashimema it's an AV for display is it not?
09:39 ashimema both notforloan and withdrawn
09:39 ashimema I may be wrong though..
09:39 cait what do you mean with for display?
09:39 ashimema I'm under a really really tight deadline
09:39 cait we use it for the items that are "deleted"
09:39 cait thrown out
09:39 ashimema oh.. what do you mean for display?
09:40 ashimema ok..
09:40 cait yoyou said that not me
09:40 ashimema I'm confused.. I never mentioned display
09:41 cait (11:39:16) ashimema: it's an AV for display is it not?
09:41 ashimema you said 'maybe a translation issue'
09:41 cait oleonard: any notes on withdrawn?
09:41 cait that we translated withdrawn in that way
09:41 ashimema right..
09:41 ashimema back to basics
09:42 ashimema julian, when doing bundles, would 'withdraw' an item when it's attached to a bundle
09:42 ashimema because it can no longer be loaned on it's own.. only as part of the bundle
09:42 ashimema I'm wondering if 'withdrawn' is right.. vs using a  'notforloan'
09:42 cait i don't think i'd use withdrawn here
09:42 ashimema I'm thinking notforloan
09:42 cait yes
09:42 ashimema ta
09:43 ashimema I want to be able to 'check in' individual items even if they've been checked out and lost as part of the bundle
09:43 cait or usage restrictions
09:43 ashimema that way I can track if they eventually make their way back
09:43 ashimema ack..
09:43 ashimema where does 'usage restrictions' come in?
09:43 cait restricted
09:43 wahanui restricted is linked to an authorised value
09:43 ashimema is that yet another field somewhere?
09:43 cait but the use is not well documented
09:43 ashimema so notforloan or restricted
09:43 ashimema more for me to investigate
09:44 cait nfl might be nice because it also can block holds if you want that automatically
09:44 cait positive nfl values don't allow for holds
09:46 ashimema excellet.. yes we will want to prevent holds on the individual items too :)
09:46 ashimema does restricted not block holds then?
09:52 cait i am not sure
09:52 cait i now that restricted = 1 cannot be checked out? but other values work?
09:52 cait it's a little confusing
09:52 cait so maybe sticking with nfl is better
09:57 ashimema ta
10:19 cait hm i qa and qa... and still just barely below 80
10:25 cait Joubu: could you have a look at bug 28872 with the new database update?
10:25 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28872 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , AcquisitionLog, NewsLog, NoticesLog should use 1/0 for their values
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10:33 Putti Hi guys! This is Putti AKA kohaputti!! :) You know what, I just got approved for sponsorship for working on Koha so seems like you won't be able to get rid of me after all ;P I still have some details to clear but it seems like a solid deal.
10:35 cait woohoo ! :)
10:36 cait happy to have you back
10:37 cait fingers crossed for the last details :)
10:37 ashimema awesome!
10:37 Putti :)
10:38 ashimema some of koha's code might be cringy... but the community of people more than make up for it.. I was missing you already Putti :)
10:38 cait I was just trying to explain that to my dad heh
10:39 Putti I'm working now on a completely different field and nothing related to libraries but with this sponsorship I'm able to spend some time working on koha on the evenings and weekends :)
10:40 ashimema interesting.
10:40 Putti ashimema, the sponsorship is actually to fix the cringy code, I'm gonna do a blog post about it and will link it then here :)
10:40 ashimema New fields can be refreshing.. I should split my time a bit more honestly.. I'd come back to Koha happier and more knowledgeable again.
10:40 ashimema awesome.
10:40 ashimema that would be great to see
10:43 cait Putti: sounds great :) but make sure you don't overdo on your time - want you around along time
10:43 cait I'll be off for a bit -bbl
10:44 Putti yup :)
10:48 oleonard Hi all, I'm here now. (my chat client doesn't reliably remember when I get disconnected as "away")
10:48 * oleonard reading back
10:51 oleonard cait ashimema I've never known what "withdrawn" is for. I know it fits in some libraries' workflows but I don't know how.
11:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25078: Explicitely return from DB revs to avoid warnings <[…]529a2af6326f3afbf>
11:19 ashimema hehe
11:19 ashimema we have so many ways of doing nearly the same things in koha
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11:52 marcelr hi #koha
11:54 oleonard Anyone else find that they have multiple identical content blocks after the upgrade to Koha news?
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12:11 oleonard Does the "gulp po:update" step replace the "translate update" step?
12:11 oleonard cait? ^^
12:12 * oleonard trying to test the translatability of Bug 28720
12:12 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28720 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Update the process of adding a checkout note in the OPAC
12:12 tcohen hola #koha!
12:14 ashimema oleonard.. translate update should still work I think
12:14 ashimema it uses the gulp commands internally now
12:14 ashimema at least that how the bug worked as far as I remember
12:14 ashimema hi tcohen
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12:17 cait oleonard: yes
12:17 cait oleonard: i don't remember if you can limit it to one specific language, but it's much faster than befoe
12:19 Joubu[…]eam-realized.html
12:19 ashimema good read
12:20 tcohen nice one, Joubu
12:21 Joubu yes, and follow the link, especially the RFC of course (if you haven't yet)
12:21 Joubu oleonard: can you describe the problem you are seeing with the news?
12:21 Joubu did you let a comment or open a bug report?
12:22 oleonard No not yet
12:22 oleonard
12:23 * ashimema has been following that OO developments in Perl Core for some time..
12:23 ashimema interesting stuff
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12:25 Joubu oleonard: are they existing stuffs you had before the upgrade or new content?
12:27 oleonard It appears to be duplicates of the opacheader_en content I had before the upgrade (a single "opacheader" string)
12:37 Joubu I switched to the commit before 24387, reset_all, added 1 opacheader_en, checkout master, updatedatabase
12:37 Joubu and I have only 1 opacheader entry in the additional_contents table, and displayed only once on the UI
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12:38 Joubu maybe you had several opacheader prior to the upgrade?
12:39 Joubu on your screenshot there is a border and background color that is not in master, maybe it's coming from local changes?
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12:41 oleonard Joubu: Yes the styling is local. I'll run more tests to see if I can reproduce it.
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12:58 cait bye all, cya tomorrow or Friday
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13:06 Joubu tcohen: had a look at bug 21670 already?
13:06 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21670 major, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/Plugins.t is failing randomly on Jenkins
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13:26 Joubu oleonard: could you add your final stamp on bug 28717?
13:26 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28717 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Needs Signoff , NewsLog doesn't work
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13:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28346: (QA follow-up) Add `-action` for consistency <[…]720eb72b4323686d6>
13:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28873: Fix age displayed in db_dependent/Koha/Patrons.t <[…]51b66c92870d58763>
13:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28850: (QA follow-up) Add "patrons with fines" for clarification <[…]a3b35868ceced815e>
13:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28868: Add back mastheadsearch class name <[…]e0aae48db21616f3d>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28861: Item type column always hidden in OPAC holds history <[…]0a06502b221d8af8f>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28850: Reword AllFinesNeedOverride <[…]87ba526576601eee8>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28839: Better texts in stage MARC for import <[…]2c0197cb86b314496>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28802: Untranslatable strings in browser.js <[…]d129ba647c537c68b>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28776: Warns from GetItemsInfo when biblio marked as serial <[…]7726ee4ac90f6a28b>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28525: Dont let TinyMCE do code cleanup <[…]8f0584aa78438f479>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28390: Move timestamp into grouping row <[…]e4ddf5699c5fb0f2d>
13:38 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 28346: Add classes to account action buttons <[…]af2129f48b3891fe1>
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13:47 oleonard Joubu: I will.
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15:39 Joubu tcohen, ashimema: Could you have a look at bug 28692 please?
15:39 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28692 major, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , Reduce DB action_log table size
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15:40 Joubu I think it's great to fix the log of DateTime object that make the actionlog table huge and not redeable
15:40 Joubu readable
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15:52 ashimema Sure thing Joubu.. though I might not get to it for a week.. I'm about to head on vacation for a week ;)
15:52 Joubu Enjoy then :)
15:53 oleonard Send us pictures ashimema :)
16:02 reiveune bye
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16:15 ashimema 😀
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17:00 oleonard Joubu I still can't get the patches on Bug 28717 to apply
17:00 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28717 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , NewsLog doesn't work
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21:03 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
21:03 wahanui Congratulations!
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