IRC log for #koha, 2021-07-20

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06:05 alex_a Bonjour
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06:48 reiveune hello
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07:42 Joubu nugged: can you have a look at https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-July/002871.html and https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-July/002868.html please?
07:42 nugged on it
07:43 Joubu tuxayo: you will certainly need to ping individuals instead of the koha-translate list.
07:43 Joubu tuxayo: like you could take the 3 translators for the languages with problems. A reminder of how {count} should be translated would be nice too.
07:44 Joubu thx nugged!
07:44 cait if someoen needs permissions added, I can do that
07:44 cait on pootle - new translators that haven't had the "reviewer" one assigned yet
07:46 tuxayo Joubu: hi :) Yes, I'll send a separate email to the last translators on Pootle.
07:46 tuxayo that's what you are refering with this? «you could take the 3 translators for the languages»
07:47 tuxayo «reminder of how {count} should be translated» oops, I mentioned it in some emails but not it all.
07:51 tuxayo «instead of the koha-translate list.» Oh, right. Too much noise for low results. I guess it's even worse for the general list. The hope was to get new people on translation. I might keep that as last resort if I can't reach people directly.
08:00 Joubu tuxayo: I sent that already to the list https://lists.koha-community.o[…]ember/002814.html
08:01 Joubu for 20.11.00
08:02 tuxayo Thanks :) I'll reuse the text when reaching contributors.
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08:02 tuxayo This plural in two strings seems to have a quite high error rate
08:04 tuxayo oh, Pootle actually reports a correct use of plurals as a critical error. «Python brace placeholders »
08:04 tuxayo I'll reach Bernardo about that. Hopefully that's the cause of many of the mistakes.
08:06 nugged Joubu: Russian (native/literature) and Belarusian (a little) as well if needed, are those emails for these two also? ( /me looking into that list through web interface meanwhile)
08:06 Joubu tuxayo: you cannot IIRC, either you hide all the errors or you have some false positive
08:06 Joubu nugged: nope
08:07 tuxayo Like on general Pootle config we can't tune the warnings? :o
08:09 tuxayo nugged: Thanks :D If you have reviewer rights in Russian check out also this email. I could have fixed it but for some reason can't do suggestions.
08:09 tuxayo https://lists.koha-community.o[…]-July/002872.html
08:13 Joubu I think I've searched for that problem and didn't find anything, feel free to have a look
08:15 tuxayo Ok, I hope to find something. Otherwise the introduction of plurals might never widely get used correctly.
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08:43 cait hm a note to the wiki would be good i think at least
08:43 cait that the warnings can be ignored/deacticated
08:43 cait if you lcick on them, you can - but they tend to come back
08:43 cait i just did that without thinking
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08:43 cait i mean youc an deactivate them for individual strings
08:44 cait as a translator... but it could scare people off, like you aid
08:46 Joubu maybe we could hide it with some JS?
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09:01 tuxayo That would be great if such customizations can be made if Pootle doesn't let hide errors.
09:01 tuxayo The wiki is likely not enough to reach a big share of contributors. New + existing ones.
09:01 tuxayo But a note would hurt indeed
09:01 tuxayo *wouldn't
09:07 tuxayo Translation is hard. Quite the rabbit hole when trying to avoid having the manual monthly work when doing releases. >_<
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09:11 mkuhn Hello Community
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10:22 Leander Hi
10:24 Joubu Hello Leander
10:26 Leander Just a dumb newbie question: koha is fully operated over the web, right? there is no binary client to be installed on librarian's desktop computers, right?
10:26 Joubu correct
10:26 Leander thanks
10:27 Joubu there is a firefox plugin for offline operations however
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11:21 * cait waves at Leander
11:22 * cait also waves at oleonard
11:22 oleonard Hi!
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12:34 tcohen morning
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15:26 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "What is all this stuff in the action log for holds? Why so much?" (1 line) at
15:29 caroline oleonard: like for items, it stores all db columns
15:32 Joubu caroline: it's the dates, there is a bug
15:32 Joubu looking for it
15:33 Joubu ha, it was for oleonard
15:33 Joubu bug 28700
15:33 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28700 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , "Unblessed" method in has blessed values for keys in some cases
15:34 Joubu and bug 28692
15:34 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , Reduce DB action_log table size
15:36 oleonard Interesting, some quite recent activity on it. Thanks Joubu
15:36 cait :)
15:36 cait Joubu++
15:36 oleonard (ran across it in 20.05.x FWIW)
15:37 oleonard Digging through the logs to try to prove that Koha didn't "magically" cancel someone's hold.
15:39 cait aah
15:40 Joubu oleonard: wait, there is a bug for that
15:40 Joubu :D no, kidding, but I would not bet anything it cannot happen :D
15:41 oleonard Bug 30928 - Trans-dimensional dark magic cursed my reserves table
15:41 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30928 could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
15:41 cait lol
15:46 * cait is happy to report that she turned up no bugs (yet) in extensive email testing today in 20.11
15:53 cait hm ok, found an issue... order emails no longer print all orders - only the first
15:54 cait *sighs*
15:57 cait maybe something for fresh eyes tomorrow - bye all
16:06 cait bug 28725
16:06 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28725 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ACQORDER email no longer prints more than one order line
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16:10 oleonard The "Koha User Restrictions" mail to the Koha list is odd... The behavior described seems to be the opposite of what I'm used to. DO we have an option to block holds by restricted patrons?
16:10 cait hm i thought we did have the overwrite one on patron categoreis
16:10 cait (ignore me, i ma not here anymore)
16:11 cait "                                              Choose whether patrons of this category be  blocked from public catalog actions such as renewing and placing holds  when their cards have expired."
16:11 cait expiration - different animal?
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16:15 tcohen t/db_dependent/Reserves.t .. 61/68 No reserves HOLD letter transported by print at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/ line 632.
16:15 tcohen Could not find a letter called 'HOLD' for print in the 'reserves' module at /kohadevbox/koha/C4/ line 1881.
16:15 tcohen ^^ can anyone help me understand what's goign on?
16:15 tcohen :-D
16:18 tuxayo tcohen: the output doesn't tell which line in the test file is failing?
16:19 tcohen it is more conceptual
16:19 tcohen there's no transport defined for the letter it seems
16:20 tcohen I'm re-testing in master
16:20 tcohen this is a complex patchset
16:20 tcohen but doesn't change anything about that!
16:20 tuxayo email, letter, sms. That's what a transport is?
16:20 tcohen 25260
16:20 tcohen will submit the latest version (rebased, things fixed)
16:20 tcohen in a minute
16:21 tcohen still two failing tests I could use some help with ;-)
16:21 tcohen ^^ tuxayo
16:22 tuxayo Will take a look after finishing spamming people so they fix translations ^^"
16:22 tuxayo Not sure I'll find something in 25260 but who knows.
16:23 tcohen it is too big to not find things :-D
16:23 tuxayo lol
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20:27 caroline ashimema around?
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