IRC log for #koha, 2021-03-18

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06:49 reiveune hello
06:49 wahanui what's up, reiveune
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08:45 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
09:05 ashimema lol
09:05 magnuse the dashboard is back now, at least it works for me
09:05 ashimema zeeroo bugs here
09:05 ashimema oh yeah.. so it is
09:05 ashimema maybe rangi was working on it
09:06 magnuse i think pastebot, wahanui and logbot are things he keeps an eye on too?
09:06 ashimema perhaps
09:06 magnuse could be a reboot of the server or something
09:07 ashimema lol.. I just another bug in the pay method of Koha::Account
09:08 * magnuse wishes he had more time to do signoffs. sigh.
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09:10 nlegrand Bon matin !
09:13 magnuse kia ora nlegrand
09:19 nlegrand Hiya magnuse !
09:26 magnuse \o/
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10:25 cm hi
10:25 cm what's the recommended way to delete duplicate authorities?
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10:30 oleonard cm: You can use batch record deletion to delete authority records as well as bibliographic records
10:31 oleonard cm: You'll have to design a report that finds the duplicates I guess... not sure how that would work
10:31 oleonard cm: Maybe check the SQL library
10:36 ashimema morning oleonard
10:37 ashimema an I ask about bug 27974?
10:37 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27974 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Replace obsolete title-string sorting: Circulation templates
10:37 oleonard yeah
10:37 ashimema you do a bit of extra cleanup in
10:38 ashimema I presume it was deliberate.. my brain is still waking up and I've not worked out yet if there are any repercussions from the removal of those extra aoColumns etc settings
10:38 Joubu ashimema, tcohen:[…]erge_requests/194 (and with a perl script \o/)
10:38 * ashimema doesn't think he's even see aLengthMenu before
10:39 ashimema cool Joubu.. will take a look
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10:40 oleonard Most of it is handled now by defaults (aLengthMenu included)
10:40 ashimema cool
10:41 oleonard I found that the "sType" : "html" was redundant because DataTables handles the sorting fine without it
10:41 ashimema I thought that was probably the case but just wanted to check.. I couldn't 'see' any issues
10:41 ashimema awesome
10:42 ashimema and the autoWidth.. I presume that's the default too
10:42 ashimema thanks for taking this cleanup on btw.. I hope I didn't sound rude in my original bug report.. words sometimes escape me
10:42 oleonard Actually I'm not sure it is, but probably should be? It seems like it's not always needed but I'm not sure there's an advantage to omitting it.
10:44 ashimema apparently it's a performance thing.. but if you disable it.. you should also set specific widths youself
10:44 ashimema so in this case.. I think your right removing it.. I'll double check whilst I'm here.
10:45 ashimema I've wanted to fixed width a few columns for a while.. the thing that keeps stopping me is translations..
10:45 ashimema once translated, so columns suddently need allot more space..
10:45 * ashimema glares at the german langauge :P
10:49 oleonard The performance thing makes sense... The disadvantage I see is that the tables often don't reflow correctly on page resize
10:49 oleonard I probably resize my browser more than the average Koha user.
10:54 ashimema signed off :)
10:57 oleonard Thanks ashimema
10:57 ashimema Thank you.. :)
11:01 oleonard Weird...getting ElasticSearch indexing errors today...
11:02 oleonard "One or more ElasticSearch errors occurred when indexing documents at /kohadevbox/koha/misc/search_t​ools/ line 316."
11:04 ashimema ooh.. did we push the bug that catches errors
11:05 ashimema bug 26312
11:05 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26312 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add some error handling during Elasticsearch indexing
11:05 ashimema so.. not that
11:08 tcohen Joubu++
11:08 oleonard If error-handling made the whole index crash because of an error...that would be bad.
11:08 * oleonard refreshes everything
11:14 oleonard Now "koha_db_1 exited with code 1" :(
11:16 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Error starting koha-testing-docker" (22 lines) at
11:20 oleonard Does anyone have any suggestions about that error?
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11:28 oleonard Don't make me go back to plain kohadevbox
11:29 Joubu oleonard: did you docker down before?
11:30 oleonard I did docker down. I did docker pull. I did docker prune.
11:31 magnuse docker please?
11:31 wahanui docker is not easy.... all confusing... I'm an old man. :P
11:31 Joubu oleonard: then?
11:31 wahanui then is the issue of legacy systems who can't implement that
11:32 Joubu this is what I am using: docker-compose -p koha down; export LOCAL_USER_ID=$(id -u); export KOHA_IMAGE=master; docker-compose -f docker-compose.yml -p koha up --force-recreate
11:33 oleonard Same result :(
11:36 * oleonard brb
11:39 Joubu @later tell oleonard df -h?
11:39 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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11:51 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Starting koha-testing-docker... more details" (107 lines) at
11:52 tcohen @seen lari
11:52 huginn tcohen: lari was last seen in #koha 20 weeks, 0 days, 10 hours, 36 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <lari> jtmlis: nice. what was the issue?
11:53 tcohen oleonard it seems that mariadb image is borked
11:54 tcohen I would go with
11:55 tcohen export KOHA_IMAGE=master-buster; docker-compose -f docker-compose-light.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb_d10.yml -p koha up
11:55 Joubu es_1         | Exception in thread "main" java.nio.file.FileSystemException: /tmp/elasticsearch-16085515567341043379: No space left on device
11:55 Joubu that's a no space left error
11:55 tcohen ohhh
11:55 tcohen I would go with the line I pasted anyway
11:55 tcohen but
11:55 tcohen docker volume pruna
11:55 tcohen is probably the cause
11:56 Joubu db_1         | 2021-03-18 11:50:04 140345142822912 [ERROR] InnoDB: Error in creating ./ibdata1: probably out of disk space
11:56 Joubu so.. df -h? :)
11:59 oleonard What does that mean Joubu ?
11:59 tcohen oleonard are you on Windows?
11:59 oleonard Mac
11:59 tcohen ok
11:59 tcohen use docker volume prune
11:59 tcohen to remove leftovers that are not taken care of by docker system prune
12:00 tcohen if you go to the docker preferences > resources
12:00 tcohen you will notice the VM that is used to run docker
12:00 tcohen has a disk space limit
12:00 tcohen 'Disk image size'
12:01 tcohen you probably have spare disk space, but it is the docker image that is full
12:01 oleonard docker seems to have a consistent problem with leaving junk lying around
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12:02 tcohen oleonard indeed
12:08 ashimema I'm in the habit of pruning often
12:10 oleonard And all that was probably the cause of my ElasticSearch index problem in the first place
12:10 oleonard *sigh*
12:10 oleonard Up and running again, though, thanks Joubu and tcohen
12:11 oleonard This proves my theory that I should never use a computer more than once. Always start with a fresh one.
12:21 tcohen LOL
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12:59 eythian Thanks for the reminder, I just did "docker image prune -a" on my work laptop that's constantly running out of space and got 72GB back.
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13:05 SoniaB Hi Koha ircers
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13:06 oleonard Hi SoniaB
13:06 SoniaB Hi oleonard :)
13:14 cait1 hi SoniaB and oleonard :)
13:18 SoniaB Hi cait1 :)
13:18 SoniaB cait1: Oh I have a question for you
13:19 SoniaB I was seeking information about the usage of template toolkit in the csv profile and I found this very usefull page :[…]s/
13:20 SoniaB Is it something that will be in the manual ?
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13:53 Joubu SoniaB: I think it has been copied to the manual
13:54 Joubu hum, cannot find it however
13:54 Joubu SoniaB: if you have a gitlab account you should open an issue on the koha-manual project -[…]a-manual/-/issues
13:59 SoniaB Joubu: Hi :) Ok but I'm not sure to understand what is the issue : that we should integrate the content about template toolkit in the manual?
13:59 Joubu yes, the help pages have been removed from the Koha codebase. If there is something missing in the manual we should copy it there.
14:00 SoniaB ok
14:00 Joubu[…]sing-csv-profiles
14:00 Joubu it could be copied there
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27835: DBRev <[…]faca16a0724d73a6a>
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Turn off by default <[…]9e617f0d657f1f81d>
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27933: Fix patron search result ordering <[…]e8d2be1cbf1622388>
14:08 nlegrand o/ SoniaB.
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27967: Add min attribute to borraccount modals <[…]5bc258b7b3fb45c03>
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27835: (follow-up) Update language, remove warn, add feedback <[…]bab663d7a61a43de2>
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Add a syspref to control fines calculation on closed days <[…]4c1a84e19788610b2>
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Add new syspref ChargeFinesOnCloseDay <[…]8fa832d52af30abc0>
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27835: Revert "Bug 27180: (follow-up) Remove unused %is_holiday" <[…]1fe43a10c91bd157b>
14:08 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 27816: "Click to edit" in Point of sale is untranslatable <[…]4ad96fd69f3db3d0e>
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14:09 TimothyAlexis Could someone please sign off bug 14783?
14:10 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14783 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, bjorn.nylen, Needs Signoff , Allow patrons to change pickup location for non-waiting holds
14:11 SoniaB nlegrand: hi!
14:17 SoniaB ashimema: Martin around here ? I have a question for you too ;-)
14:17 ashimema hi
14:19 SoniaB ashimema: Hi Martin :) KohaLA is going to organize a tiny virtual koha hackathon in two weeks and we would like to use the PTFS-E sandboxes
14:20 ashimema go on
14:20 SoniaB I noticed that when you you try to apply a patch that doesn't apply it is difficult to knew it: do you think that there is a way to display the information in the sandbox homepage ?
14:21 ashimema Joubu and I are already working on it :)
14:21 SoniaB Good news !
14:21 ashimema though I'm not sure if I'll be done in time for that hackfest..
14:21 ashimema it's a more difficult one to fix.. we've both testing out some changes we made to git-bz
14:22 ashimema and then I need to also tie some extra things into the sandboxes to understand the error codes
14:22 ashimema but yeah... I'm aware and picking at it ;)
14:22 SoniaB Ok, we have to be careful then... joubu said me that we could see it in the log but it wasn't obvious for me...
14:23 SoniaB ok, I have another request
14:23 ashimema yeah.. it is indeed there.. but not obvious
14:23 ashimema I think the git-bz fix we have made should at least make it much more obvious
14:23 ashimema well.. obvious in the logs
14:23 ashimema but what I really want is to highlight in the main UI that a sandbox didn't work properly
14:23 ashimema go on
14:24 SoniaB Do you think it is possible to add a key in the koha config to be able to use the pseudonymisation dev
14:24 ashimema ooh.. erm.. probably
14:24 SoniaB https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=24151#c22
14:24 huginn Bug 24151: new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Add a pseudonymization process for patrons and transactions
14:24 ashimema I have no idea how that stuff works
14:25 SoniaB 4/ You need to generate a key and put it in the koha-conf.xml file. The following command will generate one:   % htpasswd -bnBC 10 "" password | tr -d ':\n' | sed 's/$2y/$2a/'
14:25 ashimema so it's just a random string in a config field
14:25 ashimema tcohen around?
14:25 ashimema or Joubu
14:26 ashimema Does that need adding to k-t-d or dev-tools ?
14:26 SoniaB Joubu: was here 30 mn ago..
14:27 ashimema hehe..
14:28 ashimema he's probably still lurking
14:28 ashimema so yeah.. leave that one with me
14:28 ashimema I'll track down which project the fix needs to go in.. it'll be one of those three.. sooo many moving parts to these things
14:29 cait1 SoniaB: that's not something I did, just my gitlab is terribly out of date - that's the old help page
14:29 cait1 sorry, missed the question earlier!
14:29 cait1 i believe i might even have written a bug for that already
14:30 SoniaB cait1: old but very usefull :) Joubu said to me that I could open an issue on gitlab to have it in the manual : what I have done.
14:30 cait1 hm might be on th eold TAiga
14:30 cait1 SoniaB: actually better to open a normal bugzilla report
14:30 cait1 the Documentation team switched to using bugzilla this release
14:30 cait1 just use the "documentation" component
14:31 SoniaB ashimema: lurking or packing ;-)
14:31 ashimema perhaps
14:31 cait1 Joubu: manual bugs go on bugzilla :)
14:31 ashimema he's a busy bee at the moment
14:31 cait1 for content
14:32 SoniaB cait1: ok, I'm going to open a BZ too
14:33 cait1 caroline: around?
14:34 caroline vaguely
14:34 caroline whats up?
14:34 cait1 ah
14:34 cait1 just checking I am right: content issues witht he manual go on bugzilla preferrably
14:34 caroline yes
14:35 cait1 technical issues could go on gitlab?
14:35 cait1 or not use gitlab at all?
14:35 caroline there is no rule for technical bugs, but I think devs use gitlab more
14:36 caroline devs = Joubu and ashimema mainly
14:36 ashimema :)
14:38 cait1 caroline++
14:38 cait1 SoniaB++
14:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #551: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/551/
14:43 Joubu cait1: erk indeed, I forgot that!
14:43 Joubu habits...
14:43 Joubu cait1: don't you remember we moved that stuffs to the manual at some points?
14:43 Joubu or at least had the discussion?
14:44 Joubu maybe there is a patch somewhere already
14:44 caroline going back to my training...
14:45 cait1 Joubu: we couldn't really
14:45 cait1 not systematically
14:45 cait1 I think nengard's workflow was adding to the manual and the updating the help files
14:46 cait1 but in this case I suspect the developer (you?) updated the help files witht he patch set and it got missed
14:46 cait1 i guess we could maybe filter updates to thehelp files... (commits) that have not been authored by nicole for a potential list of suspects?
14:51 Joubu yes, ashimema, we could generate automatically the entry in the config
14:51 Joubu the bcrypt_settings is actually missing from ktd
14:52 Joubu we should have a ktd var (.env) and use it in the conf
14:53 Joubu env/defaults.env:BCRYPT_SETTINGS=
14:53 Joubu files/templates/ <bcrypt_settings>${BCRYPT_S​ETTINGS}</bcrypt_settings>
14:53 Joubu that should be enough
14:53 Joubu but then you need to generate it in ksd
14:59 ashimema :)
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15:26 oleonard When debug mode is enabled for an SMTP server where do errors get logged?
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15:41 oleonard When sorting by multiple late order claim dates which date should be used? The first or the last?
15:41 oleonard cait1: Maybe you have an opinion?
15:45 * oleonard finds himself alone, so blasts his music real loud
15:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:49 wahanui Congratulations!
15:49 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #1602: FIXED in 46 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/1602/
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16:16 reiveune bye
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16:19 cait1 oleonard: sorry, which page are we looking at?
16:19 cait1 missing a bit of context
16:19 oleonard Late orders
16:19 cait1 and still writing training materials for next week....
16:19 cait1 ok, looking at the tables there?
16:19 cait1 hm
16:19 cait1 the last
16:20 oleonard The last claimed date should be the one sorted on?
16:20 cait1 my reasonig would be that you would want to check when you last sent a claim to see if you want to do it again
16:20 cait1 s the "newest date" if that makes sense?
16:20 oleonard I *think* that's how it currently works, but not sure it's by design.
16:21 cait1 we are not yet on the vrsion with the multiple date option i have to admit
16:21 oleonard So I'll take your opinion as confirmation that it really should.
16:21 cait1 so haven't worked iwth it, but it hink i like newest
16:22 cait1 but you can leave the music on loud .)
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16:31 cait1 EXACTLY
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