IRC log for #koha, 2020-11-09

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01:24 aleisha i do not tuxayo i was just using examples given in the comments
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07:19 fridolin hi there
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07:57 alex_a Bonjour
07:57 wahanui hey, alex_a
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08:43 fridolin Bug 26970 small but usefull ;)
08:43 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26970 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, ASSIGNED , Add row highlight on drag in Elasticsearch mapping template
08:44 fridolin actually NSO
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09:11 severine_q hi #koha :)
09:24 severine_q do you some reasons why items can't be deleted ?
09:25 Joubu if they are checked in or if there are holds on them?
09:26 severine_q no, I checked that :/
09:26 severine_q they are not on present in any list either
09:27 severine_q Hi Joubu :)
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09:37 severine_q ok, find the answer trying to delete it from cataloguing/ : analytics...
09:39 ashimema mornin' #koha
09:42 severine_q hi ashimema !
09:43 severine_q does some know how analytics are stored in database ?
09:43 ashimema good morning severine_q, how are you today?
09:43 severine_q this is a feature we never used so I'm quite surprised I had some of them in our o=Koha...
09:43 severine_q fine, but alittle bit annoyed because of items I can't delete...
09:44 ashimema afraid not :(
09:44 severine_q I just find it's because analytics
09:45 Joubu don't you get a reason?
09:45 Joubu is the deletion failed of you the "delete" action is disabled on the UI?
09:47 severine_q no, I had no reason using the batch deletion tool or the delete option on bibliographic record, only from 'add item' page
09:52 severine_q and for ashimema ? what's up today ?
09:53 ashimema I'm good.. just working out what's on the job list for this week.. last week sunk allot of time in rebasing and qaing and keeping up with Joubu :)
09:56 severine_q yeah ! I saw that, nice job !!
09:56 ashimema 20.11 is going to be a real bumper release I feel :)
09:58 severine_q aren't they all ? :)
09:59 ashimema very true
10:06 severine_q still on my analytics, sorry... is the only way to 'un-link' records is to suppress the reference to the item in $9 in the bibliographic record ?
10:13 severine_q trouvé !
10:27 cait severine_q: maybe ry turning on Easyanalytics
10:27 cait i think your item was added with that feature
10:27 cait so turning it on might give you better options to clean it up
10:28 cait it might also help to delete the 773 with the item link ($9?) not sure
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10:30 severine_q thanks cait, that's what I was trying to use !
10:30 severine_q but i'm still annoyed because I don't have the display described in the manuel :/[…]editing-analytics
10:31 cait we don't use the feature, so I am probably not much more help there :(
10:32 severine_q so double thanks for your help cait !!
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10:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26971: Remove obsolete test file translatable-templates.t <[…]4c1a292c52d188659>
10:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24665: (QA follow-up) Add tests for 'selected' <[…]ce7a2d29fa2cf0eee>
10:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24786: (QA follow-up) Mock UseCashRegister in tests <[…]e03de438a56f0a1ba>
10:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25067: Fix perlcritic errors <[…]62b95d60210fd9eec>
10:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24786: Fix Script_cron.t and t/Koha/Script.t <[…]fc92a9f1f77bf3153>
10:44 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25067: Adjust paths in tests <[…]8f17b3297a94b1d66>
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10:55 Mueck Hello everyone, does somebody know why the extendedPatronAttributes are not showing in the selfregistration form? I set two user attributes and activated the extendedPatronAttributes in the administration setting but they are not showing. I did this also on a second server, and there it is working.
11:01 Joubu Mueck: Hi, did you check the "editable at the OPAC" option when you edit the patron attribute type?
11:02 Joubu hum, the option says "Editable in OPAC:
11:02 Joubu Check to allow patrons to edit this attribute from their details page in the OPAC. (Requires above, does not work during self-registration.)
11:03 Joubu see also bug 26119
11:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26119 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to oldstable , Patron attribute option to display in OPAC is not compatible with PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail
11:04 Mueck PatronSelfRegistrationVerifyByEmail is set to not required on both server
11:06 Mueck editable at the OPAC is checked on both server
11:07 Joubu same version of Koha?
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11:09 Mueck Not working on:, Working on:
11:09 Joubu yes, 26119 has been pushed to 20.05.04
11:10 Joubu actually it's not working in 20.05.01, but the inputs are displayed
11:10 Joubu IIRC we removed the feature as it did not work
11:11 Mueck args, ok thank you :-)
11:11 Joubu hum, it's not what 26119 is saying actually
11:12 Joubu but the behaviour change you are seeing is coming from this change
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11:16 Mueck i just checked on 20.05.01 if the fields are working while creating a new user and they do. Set the "Matrikelnummer" to a random number and it appeares in the mysql database and also in the personal data of the user
11:22 Joubu Mueck: what you are describing might be a bug then
11:22 Joubu could you open a new bug report and link it with 26119? I will try and have a look later
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11:27 Mueck ok, i did register my email and create a new report when i can login
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11:28 ashimema[m] Thanks Mueck :)
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11:31 oleonard Hi all
11:32 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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11:47 severine_q completely lost with analytics... itemnumber 205930 can't be deleted because of that
11:47 severine_q i'm despairing
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12:08 oleonard Hello arriving people
12:19 Mueck Joubu, it did create a new bug report https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=26973
12:19 huginn Bug 26973: normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , 20.05.04 - extendedPatronAttributes not showing during selfregistration
12:20 Mueck hopefully i linked it corretly
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14:11 amoyano hello everyone
14:12 oleonard Hi amoyano
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14:24 Joubu oleonard: At the OPAC I am seeing that:
14:24 Joubu There are 2 "V" close to "renewal all". and the actions are duplicated (top and bottom). Looks like a bug, right?
14:26 oleonard That is how it is expected to look, but you can disagree :)
14:27 Joubu ok, thanks. If it is what we expect I am good with it
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15:10 * ashimema[m] wonders if[…]ouble?style=solid might have been better?
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15:36 oleonard Not available in the version of FA we use, ashimema[m]
15:41 ashimema[m] dang
15:41 ashimema[m] okies
15:43 tuxayo hi #koha o/
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16:30 Joubu ashimema[m]: Could you get Andrew to rebase 22818?
16:30 Joubu bug 22818
16:30 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22818 new feature, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Patch doesn't apply , ILL should be able to send notices
16:31 ashimema[m] he'll be on it tommorrow first thing
16:31 Joubu thx
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16:34 Joubu see you tomorrow #koha!
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17:18 tuxayo Is there an example of Koha acting as a proxy to an external service? Bonus if that is for privacy reasons.
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17:31 caroline tuxayo: do you mean like sign in to Koha and then access the external resource?
17:31 caroline I do that a lot with RestrictedPageContent
17:34 tuxayo caroline: like in bug 14242 the browser makes a query to Google with the ISBN to get metadata.
17:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14242 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Use ISBN-field to fill out purchase suggestions (using an Ajax-request)
17:40 oleonard We need to create a new community role: The person who restarts splitter every 7 hours.
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17:43 tuxayo :o
17:44 cait1 tuxayo: we do it for a cover service
17:45 cait1 out of privacy reasons
17:45 cait1 but not sure there is an example in Koha... it's mostly don't use it then
17:45 cait1 proxy = our server queries the cover service and delivers the cover, not the browser/computer of the user
17:47 tuxayo cait1: great, that seems to be a good example to follow for getting suggestion autofill from the ISBN
17:49 cait1 I am not sure we shoudl enforce this - I'd like seeing it but it could be a separate enh
17:49 cait1 it's an optional feature
17:49 cait1 means you can turn it on/off (that is good)
17:50 cait1 we could also add a note... but to be fair, we might have to add that to a lot of services
17:50 cait1 i'd treat making the request server side as a future enh
17:51 tuxayo cait1: ok so there should be a note in the syspref description, something to at least warn that it's a new data processing, right?
17:52 cait1 it's labelled google... but yes, we could do that
17:52 cait1 but we woudl need to add it to all the cover services too
17:52 cait1 and they are worse
17:52 cait1 this one asks the data "ondemand" from the user
17:52 cait1 the covers just load
17:52 cait1 alwys
17:53 cait1 or open library ... or library thing... or... you know :)
17:57 tuxayo > but we woudl need to add it to all the cover services too
17:57 tuxayo Can't we do it[1] for new patches without having to "fix" the other external services?
17:57 tuxayo It being the middle ground approach with a warning at the syspref and still documenting it in the list of data processings?
17:58 cait1 this one has been waiting a long time already
17:58 cait1 i feel making up a new rule now is not fair
17:58 cait1 but you can propose a new coding guideline
17:58 cait1 for future ones
18:00 tuxayo Oh right, I get it!
18:00 cait1 and we can make a new omnibus to deal with other use case
18:00 cait1 s
18:00 cait1 it will put more load on the servers
18:00 cait1 so not sure everyone is privacy concerned :)
18:02 tuxayo Cover are another thing. There is no simple solution (a direct proxy might get banned quickly with so many requests) so it's much more acceptable to leave as it is.
18:03 cait1 hm might depend on the cover provider and their rules yeah
18:07 cait1 @later tell magnuse did you solve No property notforloan for Koha::Serial::Item at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/ line 88 ? You mentioned it on IRC a little while ago and now I see the same issue (cannot receive issues)
18:07 huginn cait1: The operation succeeded.
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19:15 oleonard I wonder if it would be acceptable to only show unresolved claims on the checkout page
19:15 oleonard (with the option to show all)
19:18 tuxayo Does anyone know if there is a list of personal data processings for Koha?
19:18 tuxayo This is only cookies https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Use_of_Cookies
19:18 tuxayo And this is only a partial list https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nd_patron_privacy
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19:45 tuxayo Does anyone know for which cover service Koha acts as a proxy?
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20:12 rexnic Hi all, does anyone know how to clear the XSLT cache? The only semi-reliable way I have found is by changing by OPAC results setting back to default, saving the page and then updating again to point it back to my custom file, but even then, page loads are inconsistent. I can't find any help after much googling
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20:13 tuxayo rexnic: hi
20:13 wahanui privet, tuxayo
20:14 tuxayo rexnic: I remember that some disable XSLT cache due to being semi-reliable and that with plack/starman the gain is much less relevant
20:18 rexnic @tuxayo where is that cache setting?
20:18 huginn rexnic: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
20:18 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn.
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20:18 tuxayo rexnic: koha-conf.xml
20:18 wahanui i think koha-conf.xml is terrible
20:18 rexnic thanks
20:19 tuxayo lol wahanui
20:19 tuxayo <template_cache_dir>/var/cache/koha/k​ohadev/templates</template_cache_dir>
20:20 tuxayo ok, it's enabled in dev envs that are Koha-testing-docker and KohaDevBox
20:20 tuxayo thanks, I didn't know that :P
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20:20 tuxayo I guess that means that in this context it's reliable. I wonder what are the variables that make it buggy.
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20:21 tuxayo variables => conditions
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20:25 rexnic I'm not in either a docker or devBox. I do see <template_cache_dir>__TEMPLATE_C​ACHE_DIR__</template_cache_dir>, do I just comment that line out?
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20:31 tuxayo rexnic: I don't know more about that. It seems to be a placeholder for automatic replacement by the installer I would say.  That would mean the the template is disabled. Or that it's the wrong koha-conf.xml
20:33 tuxayo Double check that your config file your actuals <database>, <hostname>, <user> and <pass>
20:34 tuxayo If anyone shouldn't be a placehold, it's the DB config ^^
20:34 tuxayo *placeholder
20:34 rexnic tuxayo: I found the right one and it does have a file path in it
20:37 rexnic tuxayo: now that I've found that, do I just comment out that line to stop it from caching or do I need to go clear out that directory location?
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22:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_D9_My8 build #110: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]20.05_D9_My8/110/
22:39 tuxayo rexnic: great so just empty the path or comment the tag should do. + restarting Koha
22:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U16 build #110: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_U16/110/
23:01 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
23:01 wahanui Congratulations!
23:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_20.05_U20 build #149: FIXED in 50 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_20.05_U20/149/
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