IRC log for #koha, 2020-11-06

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02:46 davidnind alexbuckley: will retest shortly, nearly finished re-testing the recalls feature
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04:16 alexbuckley thanks davidnind!
04:17 pastebot "davidnind" at pasted "aleisha: test fail and qa output for bug 19532" (424 lines) at
04:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19532 new feature, P1 - high, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls for Koha
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05:44 davidnind @later tell alexbuckley success, and bug 25560 now signed off!
05:44 huginn davidnind: The operation succeeded.
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07:23 severine_q mornin' #koha !
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07:29 alex_a Bonjour
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07:34 jonrog Does anyone know how to edit the CSS-settings for the overdue notices etc that is exported with
07:34 jonrog Is there any "default" css that will be included automatically?
07:35 ashimema just reminding myself how it works jonrog
07:35 ashimema then will try to give you an answer
07:36 ashimema right
07:36 ashimema it's in the NoticeCSS system preference
07:37 jonrog Ahh, thanks ashimema. Is there a default NoticeCSS file if you dont put anything there yourself?
07:37 ashimema and you have a small standard set at the top of the default template too
07:37 ashimema just grabbing a github link for you
07:38 ashimema[…]/
07:38 ashimema having said that.. re-reading that it looks like the hard coded set is all commented
07:39 ashimema so it's just what's in the 'stylesheet' variable.. which works back to NoticeCSS preference..
07:39 ashimema so.. looks like there is nothing by default to me
07:39 ashimema hope that helps.. I need to run now to drop the kids at school
07:39 jonrog Perfect, thanks for your help ashimema !
07:40 ashimema be back in around an hour. but I'm sure there are others here happy to help too :)
07:48 magnuse that's weird. upgraded to 20.05.05 last night, and now when i try to look at a single patron i get "Template process failed: plugin error - Borrowers: plugin not found at /home/kohaadmin/kohaclone/C4/ line 122"
07:50 magnuse it's a gitified install
07:53 magnuse ah, forgot the translation steps
07:54 minski Trying to create sandbox for master, not working. Is there a build error or something?
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08:04 davidnind minski: I just spun one up on ByWater Solutions sandboxes, all seems to be working for me
08:04 davidnind maybe delete and start again...
08:05 davidnind or Actions > Renew sandbox
08:05 davidnind you are welcome to use the one I created
08:06 minski davidnind: thanks, i have tried now several times and it won't work. Maybe doing something wrong. I will use yours at this point.
08:10 davidnind no worries, to get master you just leave the bug number empty - I just entered my name, email address, sandbox name (and the "secret" code for the last question)
08:10 magnuse davidnind++
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08:12 Joubu minski: are you trying Bywater's or ptfs-e's sandboxes?
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08:18 davidnind Joubu: minski is using ByWaters' ones - I got one to work, but I didn't manage to get a PTFS-Europe one working
08:18 cait1 davidnind: best to let ashimema know
08:19 jonrog For some reason we're getting font-family monospace when we export notices from Koha 18.11
08:19 davidnind cait1: I think he had the same issue when he was doing his live coding video the other day
08:20 ashimema PTFS-Europe and Bywater sandboxes both have a random failure at the moment.. sometimes they work sometimes they don't.. I'm trying to pin it down
08:22 davidnind thanks ashimema! (the worst sort of problem...)
08:22 magnuse ugh, had some errors related to issuing rules during the 20.05.05 upgrade last night
08:23 pastebot "magnuse" at pasted "Cannot add or update a child row" (5 lines) at
08:25 ashimema Indeed, it's infuriating.
08:25 cait1 magnuse: did ou see the emails to the mailing listß
08:25 cait1 ?
08:26 ashimema Dang.. your bug magnuse .. I think I saw a fix for that go into matter yesterday
08:26 ashimema I'll dig it out once in back from the school run
08:27 Joubu bug 26911:
08:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26911 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Update for 18936 can cause data loss if constraints are violated
08:27 cait1 yeah i am looking
08:27 cait1 ah thx Joubu :)
08:27 magnuse cait1: i thought i saw some emails, but have not dug them out yet
08:27 cait1 team_work++
08:27 ashimema Searching bugzilla on mobile whilst holding the dog isn't optimal
08:27 cait1 could also someone answer Father Vlasie before he tried a downgrade?
08:27 ashimema Year team
08:27 cait1 he just needs to make the biblionumber visible in the frameworks
08:27 cait1 but I am on the wrong computer
08:27 magnuse someone said that i think
08:27 magnuse Joubu++
08:27 Joubu cait1: I answered few min ago
08:28 ashimema You guys are awesome
08:28 cait1 oh thx!
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08:52 davidnind cait1++
08:53 cait1 small wins :)
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09:19 fridolin Bug 26860 is hot ;)
09:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26860 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Add search limit for records without items
09:21 magnuse shiny!
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09:25 fridolin magnuse: thanks ;) and if i get candies it can evole again (pokemon)
09:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
09:25 wahanui Congratulations!
09:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #434: FIXED in 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/434/
09:26 Stefan This is really a long shot, but I try anyway. Is there anyone here who know how to present the AF field from the SIP2 protocol on a Bibliotecha self service automat? (This isn't really a Koha question, but I can't find an answer anywhere)
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09:39 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
09:39 wahanui Congratulations!
09:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #456: FIXED in 1 hr 2 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]aster_D9_My8/456/
09:41 Joubu ashimema: do you know, off the top of your head, what are the commands used by koha-sandboxes-docker to update the template for a new language?
09:41 Joubu ashimema: nevermind, it's not possible!
09:44 matts Stefan, hi. Isn't something that you would have to configure on the automat itself ?
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09:54 liliputech_asu hi there :)
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09:58 stefan matts one would think that, but now the AF field isn't presented
09:59 stefan I was logged out for a while. hope I didn't miss anyone trying to help me. (can't see the history)
10:01 matts stefan, did you check that Koha returns the AF field as it should ?
10:03 stefan I tried it in the test environment with a "test sip client". haven't been able to try it in production
10:04 matts Well, if Koha returns the AF field and the automat doesn't display it... You'll have to ask the automat's manufacturer why, I guess.
10:04 magnuse sounds reasonable
10:04 ashimema not sure I followed that question Joubu
10:04 ashimema were you trying to install a new language in koha-sandboxes-docker
10:05 stefan matts i guess so. there just so slow. I thought maybe someone here knew if there's some configuration I missed or something, but I guess I have to wait for bibliotecha
10:05 ashimema oooh..
10:05 stefan there = they are
10:06 ashimema we don't allow selection of a language at install time on the docker sandboxes..
10:06 ashimema how did I miss that!
10:06 Joubu ashimema: I thought that "actions" had a "update template" for a given language. But it does not
10:06 ashimema I should really add support for that..
10:06 ashimema well.. once I have the darn sandboxes working again at all!
10:06 ashimema also Joubu..
10:07 ashimema do you think we should move koha-sandboxes-docker to the community gitlab?
10:07 ashimema it's really just been khall and I maintaining it between us with merge requests going in both directions (with a few from you now)
10:07 ashimema feels like perhaps it's time to have it more in the community domain
10:08 * ashimema is happy to continue working on it of course
10:08 matts stefan, there is no specific configuration in Koha for the AF field that I know of...
10:08 ashimema just makes it more transparent etc
10:08 stefan matts no, I meant in the bibliotech automate config (yes longshot)
10:08 Joubu ashimema: we could. But the github has lot of issues reported
10:08 Joubu we could move them..
10:08 ashimema yeah
10:09 ashimema I was just reading through teh issues
10:09 matts stefan, yes, I guess you will have to wait for Bibliotheca's answer, unless someone here knows better.
10:09 ashimema I disabled issues on our 'fork' so at least they sohuld all have been reported in one place
10:10 ashimema stick with gitlab/github issues or add a component in bugzilla perhaps?
10:10 ashimema I must admit.. I miss the github issues.. keep forgetting they're there
10:10 Joubu we decided that side-projects should have their own issues tracker
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10:11 ashimema so stick with gitlab (if we move to centralise this repo into community gitlab)
10:11 ashimema rather than add to `Project Infrastructure` in bugzilla
10:12 Joubu yes, like all other side-projects ;)
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10:40 WaylonR Hello all! long time no see. are there any gotcha's with upgrading a koha 17 install to koha 20?
10:44 Joubu yes
10:44 Joubu bug 26911
10:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26911 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Update for 18936 can cause data loss if constraints are violated
10:44 Joubu this is not backported into 20.05 yet
10:48 cait1 out of the blue question because we arae a little stuck: how do we enable basicauth for REST?
10:53 Joubu it's a pref
10:53 cait1 RESTBasicAuth system preference, not mentioned int he test plans for the feature
10:53 cait1 people please... if we expect anyone outside of Koha to use these some basic docs on the authentication would be really nice :(
10:55 cait1 Joubu just pointed out: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]the_Koha_REST_API
10:55 cait1 i am going to add some links in the wiki
11:01 cait1 done - thx Joubu and sorry people - been a long week
11:01 magnuse yeah, more examples would be awesome!
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11:41 oleonard Hi #koha
11:47 tuxayo hi o/
11:52 kohaputti Joubu, did you test the emails by any chance with non-ascii chars, like ä ?
11:53 kohaputti Joubu, I'm guessing the double encoding issue might not happen then because the MIME encoding might not come into play
11:53 Joubu of course
11:54 Joubu always testing anything with "❤"
11:54 kohaputti Joubu, there was some follow-ups for other notices to remove the double encoding I think, so maybe you tested those?
11:54 Joubu yes
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11:55 Joubu my concern is that maybe your patch is breaking the ones we fixed earlier
11:55 kohaputti would be great to have tests for this but I have to solve some more bugs in master (we use it in prod :D)
11:55 ashimema is this your 'SLIP' vs 'Email' utf8 encoding issues kohaputti
11:55 Joubu (as you are fixing things at low level in _send_by_email)
11:55 ashimema that was next on my list to try and understand :)
11:56 Joubu lol, crazy people
12:02 kohaputti Would love to talk more about using master in prod at another time (it's actually pretty great). Regarding the double encoding thing it might also be that the subject needs exceed certain length for the MIME encoding to come into play and cause issues (if you follow the test plan and don't notice difference this might be it)
12:05 kohaputti ashimema, bug 22343
12:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22343 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Add configuration options for SMTP servers
12:05 ashimema brave
12:08 ashimema am I reading this right..
12:08 tcohen ok, does someone have a friday playlist?
12:09 ashimema it's the encoding in the DB and thus the display in the client that's incorrect at the moment.. email stuffer then corrects it on send..
12:09 ashimema so you're change is to encode it properly earlier and then drop the email stuffer side
12:09 ashimema me is behind trying to understand the problem
12:09 ashimema firday playlist.. great idea
12:09 Joubu tcohen: Switched-On Bach
12:10 tcohen Joubu++
12:11 tcohen Maybe Switched-On by Stereolab :-P
12:12 ashimema ++
12:13 tcohen Koha/Patron/Password/    my $num_letters_attempted = C4::Letters::SendQueuedMessages( {
12:13 tcohen misc/cronjobs/process_message_queue.​pl:C4::Letters::SendQueuedMessages(
12:13 tcohen opac/            my $num_letters_attempted = C4::Letters::SendQueuedMessages( {
12:14 Joubu tcohen:
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12:18 kohaputti As far as I understand all the letters prepared that go to _send_message_by_email must not be encoded with MIME encoding because the Email::Stuffer does it so we cannot do it twice, and given it was encoded already in _send_message_by_email before the patch I attached I think it cannot hurt any other emails that get sent by this
12:18 kohaputti because those emails would have been garbled already before this patch
12:19 tcohen kohaputti lets do the right thing in
12:19 tcohen and we will need to revisit side effects in the placse EnqueueLetter is called
12:25 tcohen kohaputti SendAlerts seems safe
12:26 Joubu oleonard: I confirm that it fixes the problem for me as well
12:26 Joubu was for kohaputti
12:26 kohaputti Ok
12:26 Joubu however I don't understand why it happens for this notification and not the others
12:26 kohaputti we should also verify that the attachment encoding in EnqueueLetter is correct
12:26 kohaputti (if not done already by someone)
12:27 kohaputti Joubu, what other notification it doesn't happen?
12:27 Joubu I verified it
12:27 kohaputti but if you go execute the code in your mind you can see it is clearly wrong to MIME encode twice
12:27 tcohen I've got a refgression test
12:27 Joubu when I tested this bug I focus on sending basket and list, because they have an attachment
12:28 Joubu and it was working correctly
12:28 kohaputti also wrong to UTF-8 encode twice
12:28 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "regression test" (17 lines) at
12:29 kohaputti Joubu, reading https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]11048&action=diff the basket email sending is not handled by this
12:29 kohaputti It has it's own way of calling Koha::Email
12:29 tcohen those are send directly from the controllers
12:30 Joubu you are right kohaputti, it's sent directly
12:32 kohaputti tcohen, thanks for the regression test :)
12:33 tcohen I'm not sure ti is correct
12:33 tcohen I expected the faiilure to be the other way around
12:34 kohaputti hmm, what do you mean other way around?
12:35 kohaputti ah, the test doesn't work with the patch
12:35 tcohen it feels it demonstrates things are working
12:35 kohaputti hmm well it doesn't work a) without the patch b) with the patch
12:36 tcohen is( $messages->[0]->{content}, decode_utf8($my_message->{letter}->{content}), 'EnqueueLetter stores the content correctly' );
12:36 kohaputti maybe "Wide character in print at /usr/share/perl5/Test2/Formatter/ line 105." is caused by some other issue, like in how perl handles characters
12:36 kohaputti maybe in the perl file you need to declare the code is utf8
12:37 kohaputti otherwise it might not allow that character in source code
12:37 kohaputti use utf8;
12:37 kohaputti (I have not yet tried it)
12:38 kohaputti that fixed the perl warning
12:39 tcohen ok, yes
12:39 tcohen but it doesn't fail without your patch
12:40 kohaputti also it doesn't fail with it so that's good :P
12:41 Joubu tcohen: 'EnqueueLetter stores the content correctly' => this is not the problem
12:41 Joubu the problem is when the email is sent
12:41 tcohen oh
12:41 kohaputti yes, this test seems to be unrelated
12:41 Joubu The table content is correct
12:42 tcohen we are mocking send_or_die
12:42 tcohen I think it is the only method I used
12:45 Joubu when do we send an email with attachment? Apart from basket and list
12:48 tcohen reports
12:48 tcohen
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12:50 tcohen is it just about attachments?
12:50 tcohen I don't reproduce in the tests
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12:50 tcohen look for the tests on $email_object
12:51 tcohen in Letters.t
12:52 Joubu run_reports does not go to the table iirc
12:53 tcohen I need to step back
12:53 tcohen ping me if you need me to review anything, kohaputti Joubu
13:01 Joubu tcohen: I need you to review the ktd merge request
13:09 Joubu kidclamp: are you aware of a bug caused by preventDoubleFormSubmit if there is a form validation error on the first click?
13:09 kidclamp I am not
13:10 Joubu so basically the form submision is blocked if there is a validation error...
13:10 Joubu that's bad
13:12 ashimema this is 'fun'
13:13 ashimema seems I introduce one of the first cases where we use the two things together
13:13 * ashimema tries to find another example to see if anyone has already fixed it before
13:16 kohaputti Joubu, is it better idea for me to create always a new bug report for issues spotted in bug reports (even if they are only few days ago pushed, and not backported yet)? Just wondering what is best for your processes as RM.
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13:17 * kohaputti is thinking about bug 26627
13:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26627 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Print and confirming a hold can cause an infinite loop
13:17 kidclamp is there a bug with instructions somewhere joubu?
13:17 Joubu kohaputti: it depends :D on 1. the size, 2. how you are confident with the follow-up, etc.
13:18 Joubu usually I am ok with reviewing the follow-up patch myself and push it
13:18 ashimema I'm working on it kidclamp ;)
13:18 kohaputti ookay, will try to use my best judgment :D
13:18 Joubu always better to add the "additional_work_needed" bz kw, to not forget it
13:18 ashimema it's exposed by one of my bugs which is PQA at the minute and Joubu spotted it
13:18 ashimema in short
13:19 kohaputti Joubu, though it might not be always good idea use your time for reviewing given you already have bunch of things to do with merging patches, and processing the bug reports
13:19 Joubu kohaputti: if the follow-up is tiny I prefer a follow-up n the same bug
13:19 ashimema have a form that requires validation using jQuery validator.. and add preventDoubleSubmit on the submit button
13:19 kohaputti Joubu, ok
13:20 ashimema then.. when you hit submit with an invalid form it triggers the 'waiting' class from the preventDbouleSubmit and then triggers the validation failure preventing submission... so even once you fix the validation issue you still have the 'waiting' class on the submit button so are unable to re-submit the form
13:20 ashimema fun times
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14:10 Joubu kidclamp: FYI ashimema came up with that fix: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ent.cgi?id=113251
14:10 Joubu it's not global, so keep it in mind when it will appear somewhere else!
14:13 kidclamp will file it awat
14:14 kidclamp away, and hopefully remember
14:16 ashimema hehe
14:16 * ashimema is likely to run into it again some time and completely forget I've fixed it once already in the past ;)
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14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14866: DBRev <[…]69b1042474fce0604>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: DBRev <[…]4ffd29d8eb42343c4>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24412: DBRev <[…]0995b94e3c16ac7a1>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24412: DBIC schema changes <[…]6ac6191e409098284>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24412: (follow-up) prevent js injection <[…]cc70772e1793a5d43>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24412: (follow-up) prevent from failing <[…]1d7af284d6059e7bf>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 26627: (QA follow-up) Remove barcode input by id <[…]a46126e5d8eda72da>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14866: Trivial code simplification <[…]54772507c3492a6c3>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14866: (QA follow-up) Add hint to system preferences <[…]51e05275548d59f46>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: (QA follow-up) POD fixes <[…]edce2eabb0fe0f128>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Simplify tests by turning off AccountAutoReconcile <[…]320f0890396b3d27f>
14:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Add tests for \->credits and \->debits <[…]fde8884f4f14ff4d9>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Move _Restore to Koha::Item store trigger <[…]8489182ae13b899a5>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Unit Tests <[…]db28421f3886cb2db>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Make relations more explicit <[…]7c29a2777e015a106>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Add tests for _RestoreOverdueForLostAndFound <[…]b2ac71753c76778ce>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Add template handling for new messages <[…]2ba29299228dba949>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Update unit test <[…]fd0aac48ddd613b35>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Database update <[…]2169f439acc42da94>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 14866: Make high holds work with different item types <[…]d5fc29ff535fd13a2>
14:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23091: Add handling for new lostreturn rules <[…]5c024917d141129ad>
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15:21 caroline oleonard: is it in the plans to eventually move the staff interface customizable sections to news also?
15:27 tcohen how can I do this in JavaScript?
15:27 tcohen columns_filters.push( { item: { "like": this.value+'%' } } );
15:27 tcohen where item is a variable
15:27 tcohen it keeps puting the 'item' keyword
15:35 Joubu SO says [item]
15:39 ashimema caroline, I think so yes
15:40 ashimema but.. I also think the News stuff all needs a bit of work to make it work a bit more cleanly..
15:40 ashimema which I think josef was working on last I looked
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15:44 JesseM Hello all
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15:51 oleonard caroline are you just thinking ahead or do you have a concern about it?
15:51 oleonard (sorry, was afk)
15:51 caroline oleonard: no, just thinking ahead
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15:52 caroline I was working on this monster[…]ges/appendix-opac and wondering if we should do the same for the intranet
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15:54 oleonard Luckily for you caroline the options are fewer in the staff interface :)
15:54 caroline haha yeah!
15:55 oleonard tcohen: I spent an entire day fighting with columns settings this week and was defeated, so I don't think I can answer your question :(
15:56 oleonard (Bug 22276)
15:56 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22276 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Add client storage of user-selected DataTables configuration
15:56 tcohen oooook
15:56 tcohen what table were you playing with?
15:57 oleonard The items table on
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16:39 oleonard Bug 26958... bringin' back the hits.
16:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=26958 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move Elasticsearch mapping template JS to the footer
16:40 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #398: UNSTABLE in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/398/
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16:55 Joubu have a great weekend #koha!
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17:17 caroline For some reason, when I click on the input field for the PatronDuplicateMatchingAddFields syspref, there is nothing in the modal. Is there something I should activate to see the column names?
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17:22 oleonard I wouldn't think so caroline... It looks okay to me in master
17:25 caroline ok thanks for checking
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21:46 tuxayo The new permalink button to a syspref is great! :D
21:51 davidnind I agree, although I thought it was a bookmark initially...
21:55 tuxayo That allows to easily bookmark
21:55 tuxayo ^^
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22:16 caroline @later tell kathryn if the offer to have these images done nicer still stands, I'd take you up on it[…]ges/appendix-opac
22:16 huginn caroline: The operation succeeded.
22:17 caroline have a nice weekend everyone!
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