IRC log for #koha, 2020-10-30

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08:11 severine_q hello #koha !
08:35 cait1 good morning severine_q :)
08:44 enkidu Good morning everyone
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08:47 severine_q hi cait1 endiku !
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09:12 did hi,
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10:28 oleonard Hi #koha
10:37 severine_q hello oleonard !
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11:01 cait1 no Friday QA? :(
11:01 cait1 QA_team?
11:01 wahanui QA_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall ashimema alex_a jajm matts
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11:16 oleonard cait you'll have to threaten them more
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12:07 cait1 oleonard: with what is the question...
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12:28 tcohen hi
12:28 wahanui hola, tcohen
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12:28 tcohen what's up, cait?
12:28 tcohen cait1
12:29 oleonard tcohen: cait1 is cracking the whip, demanding blood, sweat, and tears from the QA team
12:30 cait1 tcohen: i'd really like some enh patches passed as the deadline is today :)
12:30 cait1 20888
12:30 cait1 i signed off, so can't move it
12:34 cait1 missed my time window, eh?
12:36 magnuse oh, feature slush?
12:36 wahanui i guess feature slush is fast aproaching..
12:40 oleonard I wonder if there's any chance for Bug 20212
12:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Slowness in Receiving in Acquisitions
12:46 oleonard tcohen still around?
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12:51 severine_q oh yes please, 20212 !!
12:58 tcohen I am
12:58 tcohen oleonard I'm working with andrew (BWS) on some minor glitches
12:59 oleonard I'm not big-brained enough to read the code for Bug 20212, but I was thinking about it when I was trying to see how I might use the checkouts API.
12:59 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20212 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Slowness in Receiving in Acquisitions
13:00 tcohen oleonard if it is a datatable, it is fairly trivial
13:01 oleonard In my case I'm thinking of an external (authorized) application pulling checkout info... So it could be made to return bibliographic and item information in addition to the plain issues data?
13:02 tcohen sure!
13:02 oleonard That would be cool :)
13:02 tcohen you need to add x-koha-embed: [ item, item.biblio ]
13:03 tcohen to the spec
13:03 tcohen and then add that header on the request
13:03 tcohen see acquisition_orders.json
13:03 oleonard I finally did some successful tests of using the API to interact with our production database but found that I wished for more :)
13:04 tcohen file  a bug like 'Allow embedding X, Y, X in checkouts'
13:04 tcohen and I will just implement it
13:04 oleonard tcohen++
13:05 tcohen is this for A checkout or for listing them?
13:05 tcohen you want the patron for sure
13:05 tcohen and the library
13:05 wahanui i guess the library is asking why we can search isbn with and without hyphens but not the issn... anyone?
13:05 oleonard The case I was looking at was for getting checkouts for a particular patron
13:06 oleonard I needed to get counts of itemtypes in checkouts
13:06 tcohen right
13:14 tcohen oleonard there's a libraries table
13:14 tcohen or the cities one as examples
13:30 tcohen kidclamp we overlapped :-D
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13:46 tcohen amoyano's patches deserve QA as well
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14:03 lavamind hello
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14:04 lavamind is the failed login attempts counter reset every day, or some period of time?
14:04 lavamind or is it cumulative for the lifetime of an account?
14:21 oleonard In columns_settings.yml there's a note about "internal/obsolete fields" in the items table, including the issues column.
14:21 oleonard Is the issue column "internal" or "obsolete?"
14:25 magnuse lavamind: it is reset after a successfull login
14:26 lavamind magnuse: thanks
14:27 oleonard On the item edit page the table of items can't be configured to hide "Total checkouts" or "Total renewals" because they're excluded in columns_settings.yml... but I don't know why
14:28 caroline oleonard: I think they are "internal" fields meaning they are used by the system
14:37 oleonard items.issues and items.renewals are both mapped by default to 952, so I don't think they should be excluded. If they're mapped they'll show up in the table of items for editing.
14:37 oleonard I guess I'll file a bug.
14:41 caroline isn't total checkouts and total renewals at the biblio level?
14:41 caroline biblioitems
14:41 wahanui somebody said biblioitems was not hte right table, cait is talking abou titems
14:42 oleonard No, total checkouts = items.issues, and total renewals = items.renewals.
14:45 caroline ok
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14:58 oleonard ...but after a reset_all I don't see total checkouts or total renewals on the items edit page...
14:58 * oleonard is very confused.
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15:03 * cait1 has no clue what people were talking about but is confused out of solidarity
15:04 oleonard Thanks cait, I'm inventing imaginary bugs because I guess I don't have enough real ones
15:05 cait1 hm yeah, i am good at inventing problems too :)
15:07 tcohen hey
15:08 tcohen the gitlab patches aren't pushed yet!
15:09 * oleonard looks for small-brain bugs
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15:33 amoyano Hello community!
15:33 oleonard Hi amoyano
15:35 amoyano Hi.. just a lil question.. I need to add a newly baked cron job to be installed with debian packages.. could someone point me to the docs for any guide?
15:46 tcohen amoyano: look at debian/koha-common.cron*
15:46 tcohen is it something that needs to be switched on, on each instance?
15:48 amoyano no, I believe not
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15:58 cait1 what is the cron for?
16:02 amoyano It's for bug 23260
16:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Failed QA , Anonymize (remove) patron data from items_last_borrower
16:03 amoyano Instead of using the cron batch_anonymise, I'll add a new cron just for items_last_borrower
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16:28 caroline anyone else always reads chicken instead of checkin?
16:43 * oleonard thinks caroline needs lunch
16:46 * caroline goes to eat lunch
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17:22 severine_q good bye #koha !
17:33 cait1 amoyano: could also be another switch to cleanup-database
17:33 cait1 it woudl be great if it dependendedon a pref
17:33 cait1 so you can turn it on /off... and then it could also be scheduled by default
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18:00 cait1 if you run many instances on a server that's super helpful
18:00 cait1 and with that... happy weekend everyone! :)
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18:28 caroline so... cait1 is done for the weekend, but cait is here?
18:29 caroline oh, to have a clone... I could be done for the weekend too
18:29 cait this is weekend cait :)
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18:30 cait on a different computer even :P
18:33 amoyano bug 23260 just resurrected from the dead… a proper halloween bug
18:33 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Signed Off , Anonymize (remove) patron data from items_last_borrower
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18:47 tcohen amoyano++
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19:17 cait kidclamp++
19:17 cait thank you!
19:25 caroline what is the difference between the maxreserves syspref and the Deaful checkout, hold and return policy in the circ rules?
19:26 cait maxreserves is a total over all libraries
19:26 caroline ah!
19:26 cait and all rules etc
19:26 cait don't ask me if it works rihgt, but i remember that#s why we kept it :)
19:26 caroline but if the default checkout hold and return policy is for all libraries?
19:26 cait no
19:26 caroline ok
19:26 cait that's a fallback = if you haven't set up a rule for a library
19:26 caroline I think I understand...
19:26 cait it's all labelled wrong currently
19:27 cait "all libraries" is so wrong there right now
19:27 caroline reviewing this section in the manual... so I'll try to explain it
19:27 cait i am sometimes not sure if we didn't mix it all up right now
19:28 cait like... have the labelling strange and people start to make things work differently
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20:23 cait talljoy++ you know why
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21:12 Guest4680 Hello, I was wondering if anyone had a moment to answer a few questions I had about this software
21:13 caroline ask away!
21:13 caroline Don't know if the people who can aswer are around, depending on the question
21:13 Guest4680 Thank you!
21:14 Guest4680 So I work for a film school, and we need something to manage the reservations of many resources at once and I wasn't sure if that was something this software could handle
21:14 Guest4680 We have students getting equipment for shooting films. Which means they need to reserve up to 20 resources at once from one big pool of equipment. They need to look at the entire pool and see what is available over a given time period.
21:14 Guest4680 Would that functionality be available on Koha?
21:15 caroline what do you mean by "one big pool of equipment"?
21:15 caroline But yeah I think it's totally possible to reserve equipment qith Koha
21:15 Guest4680 So they need to be able to put in the dates for their reservation and see which resources are available
21:16 caroline ok so like reserve in the future
21:16 Guest4680 Yeah
21:16 caroline I know there is a functionality to allow holds in the future, but I've never used it myself
21:16 Guest4680 That's promising
21:17 caroline you can try it in a demo or sandbox if you want
21:17 Guest4680 Yeah, that's probably what I'll do
21:17 caroline
21:17 Guest4680 Thank you very much caroline
21:17 caroline If you go in Administration > System preferences >  AllowHoldDateInFuture
21:18 caroline[…]wholddateinfuture
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21:34 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #96: STILL UNSTABLE in 43 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]05_D9_MDB10.3/96/
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22:29 caroline have a nice weekend everyone!
22:31 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:31 wahanui Congratulations!
22:31 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_D9_MDB10.3 build #97: FIXED in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]05_D9_MDB10.3/97/
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