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Bonjour |
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hi, alex_a |
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hm lots of cait activity |
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good morning #koha! |
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mornin' |
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morning ashimema! |
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Project Koha_20.05_D10 build #24: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_20.05_D10/24/ |
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nlegrand |
gut morgn! Vos makht ir? |
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cait |
good morning nlegrand |
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nlegrand |
a good day cait! |
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tcohen |
https://www.facebook.com/102.3[…]/563873980911250/ |
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tcohen |
ha, wrong link |
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tcohen |
https://www.zdnet.com/article/[…]list-terminology/ |
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TimothyAlexis |
I am checking 20.05.x for WCAG compliance. |
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mtj |
hi tcohen, Joubu.. the ttf-dejavu bug tested ok |
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TimothyAlexis |
Every library in Sweden is required to comply to this checklist: |
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https://webbriktlinjer.se/wcag/?checklista |
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TimothyAlexis |
R98 states that tables require a heading (thead or caption) |
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TimothyAlexis |
I found 144 files with code for tables that are without both caption and thead. 14 in OPAC, 130 in Intranet. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I want to make sure that the bug report I supply is correct this time. |
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TimothyAlexis |
This is a EU-directive follows through as Swedish law on September 23:rd 2020. By then, we need all of Koha to be WCAG 2.1 compliant. |
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ashimema |
I'm working a fair bit on accessibility of late.. but I'm not sure we're aiming as high |
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ashimema |
be nice to see more work going on there.. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I know there are many who could be involved to contribute. |
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ashimema |
I only have funding to get us up to UK Gov requirements at the OPAC level.. which is a selected list of A, AA and AAA levels |
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ashimema |
with a much tighter deadline than the Euro compliance is |
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TimothyAlexis |
At least from Sweden. |
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ashimema |
I believe they're also intending to hit the staff client.. but later on.. |
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ashimema |
for the OPAC we have an incredibly detailed report.. the staff side is still being assessed |
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TimothyAlexis |
I'm new to Koha since April, when I was employed at Lund University Library. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I think there is a need for a coordinated effort towards WCAG 2.1 compliance. |
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So that there is cooperation towards that goal. |
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TimothyAlexis |
In Sweden we have something called "Svenska Kohanätverket" (The Swedish Koha Network). We have a Slack community where there's a newly created channel called #Tillgänglighet (Accessibility). |
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TimothyAlexis |
Which currently holds 29 members. |
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ashimema |
excellent |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
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TimothyAlexis |
I think this requires cooperation on a larger scale. Is there such an opportunity available today? |
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TimothyAlexis |
I need to go away from the keyboard for some hours. I will post this in the Slack channel and opt for more to be involved. |
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TimothyAlexis |
When I'm back. |
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tcohen |
TimothyAlexis you should write a plan, on the Wiki and probably propose some joint action on koha-devel |
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oleonard |
How long after something has been marked "pushed to oldoldstable" should we be concerned about why it isn't marked "resolved fixed?" |
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cait |
hm i think i only pick things at least 3 months old... maybe could add another thing to check for pushed oldoldstable next time? |
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cait |
well 3 months old at the time we do the bug mass edit... so it could be older at some point |
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cait |
6 months? |
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caroline |
I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed |
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oleonard |
caroline: Me too |
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oleonard |
cait, it's something you do manually? |
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cait |
yes, it#s not a cron, i meet with rangi, he turns off email and we do batch edits |
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cait |
it's written up on the wiki |
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cait |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]jor_release_tasks |
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oleonard |
Thanks cait |
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* ashimema |
wanted to do it more thoroughly as part of releaseing |
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but was told we couldn't do it as it would spam too many people |
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ashimema |
I even have the scripts ready to go |
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cait |
i thin the issue is turning off the mail |
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ashimema |
yup |
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ashimema |
can you disable a notice somehow.. |
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ashimema |
other than setting it blank? |
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cait |
you'd have to ask chris how he does it |
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cait |
it's either a switch in bugzilla or he turns it off server side |
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ashimema |
ooh.. |
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ashimema |
I meant in Koha |
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cait |
oh! |
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cait |
which oneß |
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cait |
? |
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hello everyone |
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ashimema |
any |
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is getting the YASP (Yet Another System Preference) twitch with this ILL bug ;) |
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Null404 |
Is the in KOHA an option to limit fee amount ? For expample: after 200$ KOHA don't count bigger fee |
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oleonard |
Null404 I think MaxFine is the pref you want |
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oleonard |
Null404 or look at the Circulation and Fine rules to define more specific settings |
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cait |
yes, there is global and per rule ones |
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oleonard |
Null404 look for "Overdue fines cap" in the circulation rule options |
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wizzyrea |
hallo friends, is there a known problem with mana? we've been getting 502 errors |
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* oleonard |
waves to wizzyrea in a sympathetic but unhelpful way |
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tcohen |
we need to kill MaxFine :-D |
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caroline |
It's pretty much half dead already... :/ I've had several complaints from clients |
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tcohen |
exactly, we now have a new DB table to properly handle the global > specific setting |
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cait |
kidclamp++ thx for the fail qa :) |
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cait |
oleonard++ thx for the sign-off |
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cait |
tcohen: no we don't |
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kidclamp |
hah |
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cait |
(kill MaxFine) |
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cait |
tcohen: moving it would beok |
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* tcohen |
meant that |
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* cait |
sends cookies |
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* tcohen |
always acccepts cookies |
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enkidu |
Hi all, does anyone got a problem like this? after upgrade Koha 20.05.01 by apt-get upgrade koha-common, local opac languaged missed we cannot see from opaclanguages from system preferences, but there is in language system pref. |
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cait |
so it's in language but not in opaclanguage? |
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cait |
could the language have not been completely installed? like was there an error maybe? |
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enkidu |
Yes cait, I've checked with server and update the language |
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enkidu |
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Tem 7 15:02 tr-TR |
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enkidu |
we have language files under /usr/share/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/bootstrap |
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enkidu |
But we cannot select in the system preferences. |
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tcohen |
maybe the translation process got trucated/broken |
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tcohen |
you should try another language |
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tcohen |
and probably restart all the things |
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cait |
i had it happen that it would stop coyping files at some point and not finish |
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cait |
an di think opac gets run after intranet ... so it could be |
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cait |
enkidu: i'd rerun the install command with -v |
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enkidu |
Let me try de-DE and then -v again. |
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cait |
de-DE shoudl work! *hopes* |
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cait |
funily i am jsut trying to debug why detail views in french are broken for us.... same boat |
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enkidu |
And it worked, what is funny that, after installing de-DE, tr-TR also become visible. O:-) |
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cait |
murphy... |
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tcohen |
we should update the wiki |
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tcohen |
* First run koha-translate --install de-DE |
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tcohen |
* The repeat the command for your prefered language |
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cait |
hm plack-err-log not being helpful: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]26004&oldid=24314 |
| 15:22 |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
not that link |
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cait |
compilation error: file /home/vagrant/kohaclone/koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/bootstrap/fr-FR/xslt/MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl element text |
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cait |
xsltParseTemplateContent: xslt:text content problem |
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cait |
not giving me a line or anything :( |
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cait |
could it be the non-breaking space ? |
| 15:27 |
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cait |
? |
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caroline |
How/when is AuthoritySeparator used? Is it when you don't use XSLT? I chaged it to "-a-a-" just to see where it was used and I can't find it |
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cait |
caroline: trying to have a look |
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cait |
hm looks like some of the cataloguing plugins use it |
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cait |
but not the xslt |
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cait |
and GetMarcSubjects |
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enkidu |
tcohen: * First run koha-translate --install de-DE , hehe I liked this |
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cait |
maybe in the cart views and emails |
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tcohen |
cait I think it is non-XSLT view |
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tcohen |
enkidu hehe |
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cait |
update: it was the &bnsp; |
| 15:32 |
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cait |
i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this |
| 15:32 |
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cait |
i removed replaced them and now i got a french detail page again |
| 15:32 |
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caroline |
cait: indeed, in the cart, when you click on "more details" |
| 15:33 |
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cait |
these plces use the really old methods from Biblio |
| 15:33 |
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caroline |
It looks terrible haha! " Cat owners -a-a-United States -a-a-Biography. " |
| 15:34 |
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oleonard |
Sounds like someone hesitantly giving the answer in class |
| 15:34 |
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caroline |
But it's what I thought, the description is not right |
| 15:34 |
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caroline |
Rn the description is "Separate multiple displayed authors, series or subjects with" |
| 15:35 |
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caroline |
But it's not separating multiple subjects, it's separating the head and the subdivisions |
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tuxayo |
caroline: oleonard «I thought the person who pushed it to oldoldstable marked it as resolved fixed» https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Update_bugzilla_2 |
| 16:07 |
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caroline |
It says skip it, so I guess no one does it |
| 16:07 |
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tuxayo |
🤷 |
| 16:08 |
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caroline |
And it falls on the shoulders of cait and rangi to clean up every once in a while |
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caroline |
I'm sure there's a way to prevent emails from being sent for resolved fixed if that's the only issue |
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caroline |
y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard |
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tuxayo |
cait: «i think the 18.11 po didn't get updated to fix this» |
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tuxayo |
Is it related to this? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lease_maintenance |
| 16:13 |
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tuxayo |
«You must check the po files for errors» |
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tuxayo |
@quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard |
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huginn |
tuxayo: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
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tuxayo |
@quote add caroline : y'all are magicians, shouldn't be hard |
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huginn |
tuxayo: The operation succeeded. Quote #341 added. |
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tuxayo |
yes! |
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cait |
tuxayo: not sure that the tool would catch it |
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cait |
it#s not a mistake in the po |
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cait |
the mistake is that it's used to translate to xslt... and that doesn't work in the specific case |
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cait |
so the po file check does most likely not highlight the mistake |
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tuxayo |
right! |
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cait |
i thought I had seen this come up recenlty, but 18.11 is end of life - po files even hidden in po |
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cait |
um i mean the version is hidden on translate.koha-communtiy.org because it's so old |
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cait |
i fixed it locally, as there are no new versions for this |
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cait |
kidclamp: why do I get a birthday surprise on your birthday? bug 17661 - hope to test soon! |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17661 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Differences in field ending (whitespace, punctuation) cause duplicate facets |
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kidclamp |
heh, birthday present to myself to work on things i like ;-) |
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lari |
has anyone tested koha with chromium edge? does it work? we have a bit of sticky situation here, our client needs support for chromium edge but i suppose whatever path M$ wants to take in the future is not in our hands |
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oleonard |
lari I certainly hope that it being chromium-based will mean it will have fewer quirks |
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oleonard |
I guess that goes without saying |
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tuxayo |
lari: I wouldn't worry much. chromium edge is a path closer to Firefox and Chromium/Chrome than IE 11 and Edge Legacy |
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tcohen |
there's a reason for a chromium-based successor of the old IE |
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tcohen |
an economical one. and I guess they will try to be as compatible as possible regarding page rendering |
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tuxayo |
Yes, we shouldn't expect Microsoft diverging from what Chromium is displaying. |
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lari |
i suppose so. either way the marriage of M$ and governmental instances give me the creeps :) |
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tuxayo |
^^ |
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tuxayo |
We should worry about whatever path Google want's to take in the future is not in our hands. |
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tuxayo |
Edge getting based on Chromium isn't a good news in that regard. |
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tcohen |
lari absolutely :-D |
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hi, can anyone think of a reason why a zebra indexed catalogue would not be able to limit on location or ccode? |
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* tcohen |
is still thinking |
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wizzyrea |
it's got ICU |
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aleisha_ |
hello |
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hi aleisha_! |
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hi caroline :) |
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