IRC log for #koha, 2020-04-16

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01:30 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #289: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/289/
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01:34 * dcook waves
01:34 dcook Any folk up and about atm?
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01:38 dcook Mmm nevermind. I think I'll wing it.
01:41 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #277: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/277/
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06:23 * magnuse waves
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06:26 John042 welcome everyone
06:27 John042 I found in internet this guide:[…]tatus-upon-return , I folowed next steps and seems that is no worked
06:28 John042 so there is other way to add in KOHA temporarily bloking books ?
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06:37 reiveune hello
06:37 wahanui bidet, reiveune
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06:54 lds hello
06:54 wahanui privet, lds
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07:04 alex_a Bonjour
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08:40 Joubu @later tell tcohen weird, "full" view is not... full - https://jenkins.koha-community[…]0/185/consoleFull Do you know if there is a "limit" in the config? I did not find one
08:40 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:40 Joubu @later tell tcohen https://jenkins.koha-community[…]r_D10/185/console even more weird, the non-full view (go at the bottom)
08:40 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:41 Joubu @later tell tcohen "GC overhead limit exceeded" this is the relevant part I guess
08:41 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:44 Joubu @later tell tcohen stackoverflow says we need more -Xmx
08:44 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
08:44 Joubu sooo, meeting?
08:45 Joubu will open then close
08:45 Joubu #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 15 April 2020
08:45 huginn Meeting started Thu Apr 16 08:45:46 2020 UTC.  The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at
08:45 huginn Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.
08:45 Topic for #koha is now  (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 15 April 2020)
08:45 huginn The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_15_april_2020'
08:45 Joubu #info meeting postponed
08:46 cait1 only half here, have a video conf and the meeting at 22 pm?
08:46 Joubu next one in 2 weeks 14UTC?
08:46 Joubu or 1 week?
08:46 Joubu ashimema[m]: ?
08:46 cait1 why do we postpone?
08:47 cait1 and wasn't the date this evening?
08:47 Joubu because it was yesterday
08:47 cait1 time
08:47 cait1 oh
08:47 cait1 i missed that... sorry
08:47 * cait1 blames the easter holidays
08:48 ashimema[m] Confused
08:48 Joubu I *think* we are Thursday
08:48 ashimema[m] And I'm on the phone.. will talk later
08:48 Joubu #info Next meeting: 23 April 2020, 15 UTC
08:48 Joubu ok ok nevermind everybody
08:48 Joubu #endmeeting
08:48 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
08:48 huginn Meeting ended Thu Apr 16 08:48:34 2020 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)
08:48 huginn Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-16-08.45.html
08:48 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-04-16-08.45.txt
08:48 huginn Log:            http://meetings.koha-community[…]16-08.45.log.html
08:48 cait1 I think you are right :) it just feels like Wednesday
08:48 ashimema[m] Poop.. I had my days mix d
08:49 cait1 welcome to the club...
08:50 Joubu I need the "next meeting line" for the script to create everything for next meeting. But I think you got it
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08:51 cait1 yep, thx Joubu :)
08:51 cait1 should have waited with my questions until you were finished :)
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08:59 John042 I found in internet this guide:[…]tatus-upon-return , I folowed next steps and seems that is no worked
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09:02 eythian hi
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09:33 cait1 spammer is at it again :(
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10:17 enkidu Hi all, If a bug is in NS position, but you think you should add something new and there is already an assignee person, what do you do? Do you directly change the bug?
10:17 enkidu It is Bug 25138 Katrin
10:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=25138 minor, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Terminology: Point of sale should use library instead of branch
10:19 Joubu enkidu: add a patch
10:21 ashimema[m] Yup, add a follow-up patch. 😀
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10:44 cait1 enkidu: that's mine :)
10:45 cait1 dpeending on what it is, a follow-up is great
10:45 cait1 if you want a general change - maybe leave a comment so we coudl discuss wording :)
10:45 cait1 irc regulars?
10:45 wahanui i guess irc regulars is
10:45 cait1 to help you locating people here
10:46 enkidu it is a simple change, so we'll add a follow-up
10:46 cait1 what is it?
10:46 wahanui it is works for reserved items ?
10:46 cait1 forget it
10:46 wahanui cait1: I forgot it
10:48 cait1 Joubu: can you block users on bugzilla? i got 3 spam bugs from Mrbolt
10:48 enkidu cait1: I'll ask our team. They informed me but don't know the detail.
10:49 Joubu I can
10:50 Joubu banned
10:56 oleonard Hi #koha
10:56 John042 is there in KOHA raport to get all borrow history in library for X days (for example 30) ?
10:58 oleonard have you looked here? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]L_Reports_Library
10:58 John042 yes
10:59 oleonard What about this one? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ange_with_Patron_.26_Item_Details
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11:01 John042 oleonard I want only checkin items in this list
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11:05 oleonard John042: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_Checked_In_Books ?
11:06 John042 thanks for help :)
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11:08 John042 there is a way to mass renew last checked books  ?
11:10 oleonard We recently added a feature to extend due dates in bulk, but I don't think it registers renewals
11:11 John042 but I have old version of koha
11:14 oleonard John042 in that case I don't think so
11:14 John042 okay, thank for help
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11:42 tcohen morning
11:43 tcohen Joubu what was that message about Java ?
11:49 Joubu tcohen: want to buy me a coffee?
11:50 tcohen :-D
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12:09 oleonard tcohen: want to buy ME a coffee?
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12:47 tcohen oleonard I would love to
12:48 oleonard tcohen I hope you won't be offended if I don't wait to get coffee until that is possible.
12:48 tcohen hahahah
12:48 tcohen please don't
12:51 Joubu I'm first on the coffee list
12:54 tcohen Can you send me your address plz
12:54 tcohen Joubu you don't drink coffee :-D
12:55 Joubu I do, sometimes
13:01 ashimema[m] Mmm, coffee
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13:08 magnuse is this just failing for me? $ sudo koha-shell -c "prove -v t/db_dependent/DecreaseLoanHighHolds.t" kohadev
13:08 oleonard It passes for me magnuse
13:10 magnuse hm, weird
13:10 magnuse thanks for testing
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15:10 cait1 hay_fever--
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15:33 reiveune bye
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17:43 tuxayo Hi :)
17:43 tuxayo When doing test plans. To add quickly and reliably records, what do you use? (on koha-testing-docker)
17:44 tuxayo I'm trying "catalogoing" => add => Books, Booklets, Workbooks
17:44 tuxayo But it asks mandatorily for stuff like transcription agency....
17:45 caroline tuxayo: I often remove the mandatory settings for these
17:45 caroline but if you're docker is reset all the time (I don't know how docker works so i'm not sure) just write whatever
17:46 caroline I sometimes write just "a"
17:46 tuxayo Yeah, no issue about making sense.
17:47 caroline Also, I sometimes import a record from another system, either through z39.50 or through download and import
17:47 tuxayo «but if you're docker is reset all the time» Which will cause framework customization to be reset :(
17:48 tuxayo > I sometimes import a record from another system, either through z39.50
17:48 tuxayo Thanks I'll try that
17:48 caroline right, I wasn't sure if docker reset the settings... if the test doesn't ask you to actually catalog a record, you can download a record from a production system you have access to and import it
17:48 caroline I'd send you a marc file, but I work in marc21
17:52 tuxayo Now I only work in marc21 unless the test plan will say otherwise ;)
17:52 tuxayo I should keep few marc files from z39.50
17:52 caroline ah I didn't know, I thought you used unimarc
17:56 tuxayo I should update my wiki pages ^^
17:56 tuxayo I'm unfortunately not anymore at BibLibre. Now my plan is to work independently on community stuff.
17:57 caroline like doing sposored stuff?
17:57 tcohen tuxayo, Joubu wrote an interesting plugin that generates random things on demand. Ask him!
17:58 tuxayo tcohen: Thanks for the pointer :)
18:00 tuxayo caroline: sposored in the sense of patroned. Here are some guidelines about what kind of work I have now I mind.
18:01 tuxayo https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]y_work/Guidelines
18:02 tuxayo Actually I could just fill my worktime with signoffs, Rmaint and some GUI tests. I should add a tl;dr at the beginning.
18:03 tcohen tuxayo I recommend you search for in bugzilla then :-D
18:03 tuxayo Unless there are types of tasks that have more value than this. I don't think it possible for one person to exhaust these tasks ^^"
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18:05 tuxayo tcohen: hue hue hue. You mean about things to sign off?
18:05 tcohen yes yes
18:05 tcohen hehe
18:05 tcohen just kidding, follow your instinct
18:09 tuxayo tcohen: «follow your instinct» For now my instinct tells me that anything waiting a SO for more than a month won't likely be picked up quickly.
18:09 tuxayo So I can start from there. Then go to older ones. (more and more "patch doesn't apply" when digging.
18:09 tcohen tuxayo looking at old bugs is awesome!
18:10 tuxayo But I need feedback on the strategy in general and on the duration (the 1 month old value)
18:11 tcohen I'd just sort the NSO ones by age
18:11 tcohen and look at them in order
18:11 tuxayo That's currently my filter ^^
18:11 tcohen just marking them 'Does not apply' is good for the dev to get back to it
18:16 tuxayo tcohen: Indeed. So if I sum up what I have in mind is:
18:16 tuxayo try to SO any NSO bugs which is blocker or critical.
18:16 tuxayo SO any NSO bug major older than 1 month, from there to the older ones.
18:17 tuxayo That should be finishable. Then go the the lower severity one, all mixed. From 1 month old to infinite.
18:17 tcohen when I said follow your instinct, I also meant that you could feel something deserves your attention, maybe because you are familiar with the area. Also, there are some that are debatable and require more opiions in the 'In discussion' and 'Failed QA' club
18:19 tuxayo Indeed. That was for general guidelines about how to make the most of one's worktime if not having a standing out target at a moment.
18:22 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25131: (QA follow-up) Move test for needs_install outside the plugin <[…]57f52bfcc57ed7481>
18:22 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25131: Skip loading API plugins if Koha is not installed <[…]dbdbc3e8c3e659ba3>
18:22 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25131: Regression tests <[…]b28df62904f82bfba>
18:22 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25131: Add C4::Context->needs_install <[…]9c4750f03e6151782>
18:24 tuxayo General question: is it possible to confirm a hold without having barcode on an item?
18:24 caroline mm... I don't think so?
18:24 tuxayo Because I lazily didn't gave them one when creating but I don't know if that doesn't screw up the test plan.
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18:25 caroline Since you have to "return" the item to confirm the hold, and you need a barcode to return an item afaik
18:25 tuxayo Thanks caroline , I'll fix the items.
18:31 ashimema[m] nice to see you around again tuxayo
18:32 * ashimema[m] is on leave today but will be around more tomorrow..
18:32 ashimema[m] great to have you aboard and looking at some of the older bugs :)
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18:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25136: Join the 2 ifs <[…]e25bc583757daaf7d>
18:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25136: Make PatronSelfRegistrationLibraryList only effect new registration <[…]3ed74919823d8c7ee>
18:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25147: AllowSelfCheckReturns is in the wrong system preference section <[…]f8bd793de29a8ff7b>
18:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25007: (follow-up) Fix the way image check alters layout <[…]3465ab78f1ef82aa3>
18:32 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 25007: Check for normaalized ISBN when building Amazon link <[…]63c18344233eafdc9>
18:32 tuxayo Thanks ashimema , happy to finally start dedicating time to Koha :)
18:33 ashimema[m] I also tend to look at complexity a bit.. make sure I pick at least one or two a day I know I can get a quick win from and feel like I've achieved.. I either do them first and then pick an more evil one.. or I save them for the end of the day when i need something to pick me back up again after digging through  a hard one all day.
18:33 ashimema[m] i.e. be aware of burn out and try to avoid it :)
18:33 * ashimema[m] goes for dinner
18:33 tuxayo thanks for the tips and have a good meal ashimema  o/
18:35 caroline tuxayo: while you're here, can I ask you if you know of any opacs that have babeltheque integrated?
18:36 caroline we don't have any among our clients and someone is asking me for an example of what it looks like
18:38 tuxayo caroline: my ex[1]colleagues know, I've heard the name babeltheque few times ^^"
18:38 tuxayo [1] and future colleagues if my plan to work on Koha works :D
18:39 caroline ok, I though you might know some off the top of your head... I'll ask someone at BL
18:39 caroline thanks :)
18:44 caroline found this through a 2012 (!!) blog post[…]blionumber=531337
18:44 caroline It's pretty neat
18:46 tuxayo Ho, Nîmes :D
18:59 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #244: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/244/
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19:18 tuxayo Question about koha-testing-docker: to stop the thing:
19:18 tuxayo Can someone confirm that one must, ctrl-c in the terminal where `ku` was ran and then run `kd`
19:18 tuxayo I'm doing it but I'm not sure if that's the expected way to using it.
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19:33 ashimema[m] I do kd from another terminal tuxayo
19:33 ashimema[m] I tend to use tmux and have two windows open
19:34 tuxayo > kd from another terminal
19:34 tuxayo Great, it also works!
19:34 ashimema[m] One where I've run ku or whatever to bring it up. Then the second one I use to shell into the docker.. kshell etc
19:34 ashimema[m] Once I'm done I'll exit out of the kshell and then call kd
19:34 tuxayo Thanks for the workflow
19:35 ashimema[m] You can shutdown from inside the kshell too I think.  Though I don't tend to think of doing that
19:35 ashimema[m] Pleasure
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20:52 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
20:52 wahanui Congratulations!
20:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1277: FIXED in 48 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1277/
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21:24 Carmeb very slow search results. what to do for faster. Thank you
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