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Good morning #koha |
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Null404 |
hello everyone |
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Null404 |
I have a question |
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Null404 |
There is any way to renew books from user by specific time period ? |
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Null404 |
for example from February 2020 to March 2020 |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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did |
Null404: Have you look at Inlibro plugin ChangeDueDate ? https://inlibro.com/koha-plugi[…]ns-changeduedate/ |
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Null404 |
interesting |
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Null404 |
this is French only ? |
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cait1 |
it might be just the screenshot, inlibro is in canada |
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Null404 |
okay |
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did |
It's not, there's english and french. |
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Null404 |
tnx for info @did |
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Joubu |
Null404: a tool has been released in the last versions: bug 24846 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24846 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to oldoldstable , Add a tool to bulk edit due dates |
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ashimema |
... |
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magnuse |
,,, |
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fridolin |
hi |
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Joubu |
khall: around? |
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khall |
yep! |
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Joubu |
Hi Kyle, I have a wording question. Could you explain what is the difference between "debarments" and "restrictions" |
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Joubu |
are they synonyms? Is debarment a kind of restriction? |
| 10:34 |
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Joubu |
The context is bug 23681 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23681 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Patron restrictions should be user definable |
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Joubu |
We are adding a module Koha::RestrictionType, but a table named debarment_types |
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khall |
in a Koha sense, we started out with debarment, and switch to restrictions because it is apparently the more correct term in library systems. Much like we changed Reserves to Holds |
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Joubu |
that was my understanding as well |
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Joubu |
great, so the patch is going to the correct direction, we want to get rid of "debarments" |
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khall |
considering there is already a table 'borrower_debarments', I don't find it untoward to continue to use debarments for table names |
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Joubu |
khall: about the module name vs table name, should we rename the table to "restriction_types" in order to match the module name, or keep the "debarment" as it fit the other DB name |
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khall |
ideally, we'd rename all debarment related things to restrictions |
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Joubu |
perfect, thanks! |
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khall |
np! |
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* ashimema |
chants 'fix the db, add a view if people want backwards compatability for reports' |
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cait |
ashimema: we can also update reports a lot of the times - replacing table names should be easy |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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oleonard |
o/ |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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oleonard |
Hi marcelr |
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marcelr |
hi oleonard thx for patching |
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oleonard |
ðŸ‘ï¸ |
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oleonard |
cait around? |
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Joubu |
@later tell marcelr Hi Marcel, About 24852 - what are you expecting from me exactly? |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
kind of :) |
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marcelr |
Joubu: just go ahead with 24852 |
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Joubu |
ok |
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marcelr |
meeting here ? |
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ashimema |
poop |
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thd |
Yes |
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ashimema |
I'm double booked.. forgot about the dev meeting |
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cait |
april's joke? ;) |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Apr 1 14:07:23 2020 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_1_april_2020' |
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ashimema |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
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ashimema |
please use #info to introduce yourselves |
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Joubu |
meetings are no longer displayed/created in the agenda? |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
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marcelr |
#info Marcel de Rooy, Rijksmuseum, Netherlands |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
they should be |
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Joubu |
I don't see them |
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Joubu |
next ones are on 8th and 9th and not there either |
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ashimema |
#topic Announcements |
| 14:09 |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
| 14:09 |
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Joubu |
qa_team? |
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wahanui |
well, qa_team is cait Joubu marcelr kohaputti josef_moravec tcohen kidclamp khall |
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Joubu |
welcome back wahanui |
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ashimema |
interesting.. I don't see them either |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
grr |
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Joubu |
I will check when running the script, maybe there is an error |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
thanks Joubu |
| 14:10 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City [capital of bad viruses and hour long queues to see empty shelves] |
| 14:11 |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 14:11 |
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Joubu |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_1_April_2020 |
| 14:11 |
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Joubu |
it's empty |
| 14:11 |
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ashimema |
#info The virtual hackfest was a reasonable success.. lots of bugs pushed and a huge amount of movement in bugzilla. Thankyou to everyone who contributed and got involved. |
| 14:11 |
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marcelr |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ting_1_April_2020 |
| 14:11 |
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kidclamp |
#info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions |
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* ashimema |
is juggling meetings |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
#chair Joubu |
| 14:12 |
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huginn |
Current chairs: Joubu ashimema |
| 14:12 |
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Joubu |
#chair cait |
| 14:12 |
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huginn |
Current chairs: Joubu ashimema cait |
| 14:12 |
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Joubu |
:D |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
any other anouncements? |
| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
ok |
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ashimema |
#topic Update from the Release manager |
| 14:13 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
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ashimema |
#info We are moving into the bugfix and polishing stage of the cycle now. I will be going through the rel_20_05_target and rm_priority lists and tidying it up... I will make some exceptions, but generally we should not be focusing on cleaning up for the release, finding and fixing bugs and polishing enhancements and new features. |
| 14:16 |
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marcelr |
not = now ? |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
#topic Update from the Release maintainers |
| 14:16 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
rmants? |
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Joubu |
s/not// :) |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
ack.. correct |
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* ashimema |
can't type |
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Joubu |
rmaints? |
| 14:16 |
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wahanui |
i think rmaints is talljoy, lucas, hayley |
| 14:16 |
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tallerjoy |
hi! |
| 14:16 |
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khall |
#info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:17 |
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tallerjoy |
#info Joy Nelson Bywater Solutions |
| 14:17 |
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lukeG1 |
#info Lucas Gass, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:17 |
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tallerjoy |
I am behind, but taking this week to catch up to all the things that Martin has been pushing to master |
| 14:18 |
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lukeG1 |
19.05.09 was released last week, everything going along smoothly |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
it's been fast and furious of late.. sorry you've got so much to catch up on rmaints ;) |
| 14:19 |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:19 |
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Joubu |
lukeG1: not sure you saw my later |
| 14:19 |
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ashimema |
#info Joy is catching 19.11 up with master that the moment.. fast moving master. |
| 14:19 |
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Joubu |
in 19.05.09 there are 2 features |
| 14:19 |
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Joubu |
bug 24260 is part of the release notes |
| 14:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24260 new feature, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, NEW , REST Self Registration |
| 14:19 |
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Joubu |
no idea how it goes there |
| 14:19 |
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ashimema |
#info releases went out last week and included 2 new features |
| 14:20 |
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Joubu |
no, one :) |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
hmm, me either |
| 14:20 |
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Joubu |
https://koha-community.org/koha-19-05-09-release/ |
| 14:20 |
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Joubu |
I think we should edit the wiki and the release notes md file |
| 14:21 |
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Joubu |
s/wiki/website |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
because it's not actually in? |
| 14:21 |
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cait |
revert or bug number typo? |
| 14:23 |
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Joubu |
lukeG1: could you double check? |
| 14:23 |
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Joubu |
moving on then |
| 14:23 |
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Joubu |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
| 14:23 |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
| 14:23 |
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Joubu |
cait maybe? |
| 14:23 |
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lukeG1 |
yes, i will Joubu, thanks for pointing out |
| 14:24 |
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oleonard |
QA team update: QA team is great. |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
thanks Joubu |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
thinking |
| 14:24 |
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wahanui |
thinking is so much easier |
| 14:24 |
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Joubu |
I think we should highlight bug 22001 that has been pushed a couple of days ago |
| 14:24 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22001 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , RaiseError and PrintError flags must be set for tests |
| 14:24 |
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cait |
can you say smething about the consequences? |
| 14:24 |
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oleonard |
wahanui: Easier than what?? |
| 14:24 |
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wahanui |
oleonard: no idea |
| 14:24 |
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Joubu |
some problems poped up, and I fixed them |
| 14:24 |
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Joubu |
but maybe there are some left |
| 14:25 |
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Joubu |
I think we need to write something to koha-devel about it, that's a bit technical and tricky |
| 14:25 |
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Joubu |
but basically, we did things wrong |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
not the first time :) |
| 14:25 |
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cait |
shoudl we action you for the email? |
| 14:25 |
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Joubu |
now it's correct for tests, but as things were wrong, we did other things to balance |
| 14:26 |
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Joubu |
#action Joubu add an email to koha-devel about 22001 (RaiseError) |
| 14:26 |
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Joubu |
will do |
| 14:26 |
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Joubu |
something else? |
| 14:26 |
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cait |
i think just the usual - queue is full, please QA :) |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
the hackfest was a success i think in that - the SO are really down, so QA is up |
| 14:27 |
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Joubu |
I made it down to 10 yesterday, this morning it was up again |
| 14:27 |
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Joubu |
not sure what to do... |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
yeah, it does that, good and bad |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
another thing |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
shoudl we start looking for next Release team? |
| 14:27 |
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cait |
we got about 2 months now, so maybe a little early, but not very early |
| 14:27 |
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Joubu |
we elected you as RM already cait |
| 14:28 |
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cait |
we need more hands on QA if possible |
| 14:28 |
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cait |
I know what date it is! .) |
| 14:28 |
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ashimema |
We should certainly start promoting for the next team |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
#topic General development discussion |
| 14:29 |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
| 14:29 |
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* oleonard |
posts the job on LinkedIn |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
#info We should start thinking about the next cycle and the next team |
| 14:29 |
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kidclamp |
Please vote on my RFC? |
| 14:29 |
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kidclamp |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]cros_endpoint_RFC |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
#action Martin will send out an email |
| 14:29 |
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cait |
oh good one |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
#info Nick has an RFC we need to look at |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]cros_endpoint_RFC |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
the api naming looks good to me |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
for the paths better to ask tcohen maybe |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
or someone else .) |
| 14:30 |
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oleonard |
I like tcohen's suggestion at the bottom of the page |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
agreed |
| 14:30 |
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cait |
just spotted it as well |
| 14:30 |
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kidclamp |
yes, I will adopt his path changes |
| 14:31 |
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ashimema |
I like tcohens path |
| 14:31 |
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cait |
maybe we could even vote then? |
| 14:31 |
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kidclamp |
please! |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
fancy phrasing a vote question someone? |
| 14:32 |
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marcelr |
incl path of tcohen |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
+! |
| 14:32 |
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tcohen |
hola |
| 14:32 |
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wahanui |
hello, tcohen |
| 14:32 |
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tcohen |
I didn't know it was wednesday already :-/ |
| 14:32 |
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cait |
tcohen must haveh eard us |
| 14:32 |
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oleonard |
"Heretofore shall it henceforth and in perpetuity..." |
| 14:33 |
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kidclamp |
Should we accept the advanced editor macros endpoint as proposed by kidclamp on the wiki with the path changes proposed by tcohen? |
| 14:33 |
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* tcohen |
has just seen a green symbol on my IRC client |
| 14:33 |
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cait |
#startvote "Do you agree with the RFC for advanced editor macros as wirtten on the wiki including suggested path change by tcohen? (yes,no,abstain) |
| 14:33 |
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huginn |
Begin voting on: "Do you agree with the RFC for advanced editor macros as wirtten on the wiki including suggested path change by tcohen? Valid vote options are , yes, no, abstain, . |
| 14:33 |
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huginn |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
| 14:33 |
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tcohen |
#vote yes |
| 14:33 |
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thd |
#vote yes |
| 14:33 |
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marcelr |
#vote yes |
| 14:33 |
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Joubu |
#vote yes |
| 14:33 |
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tallerjoy |
#vote yes |
| 14:33 |
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cait |
kidclamp: was already typing sorry, saw your suggestion too late |
| 14:33 |
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ashimema |
should we have created and updated dates i there? |
| 14:33 |
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khall |
#vote yes |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
#vote yes |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
we can add those later |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
#vote yes |
| 14:34 |
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cait |
ashimema: like a tiemstamp? |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
I don't know.. how much auditing of macros may need to take place ;) |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
just a question.. |
| 14:34 |
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oleonard |
#vote yes |
| 14:35 |
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kidclamp |
file a bug and I will add in timestamps after initial bug is in |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
but could be a separate bug maybe? if there isn't one currently |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
yes |
| 14:35 |
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tcohen |
auditing_columns++ |
| 14:35 |
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ashimema |
agreed |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
ending vote! |
| 14:35 |
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cait |
3 |
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cait |
2 |
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cait |
1 |
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cait |
#endvote |
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huginn |
Voted on ""Do you agree with the RFC for advanced editor macros as wirtten on the wiki including suggested path change by tcohen?" Results are |
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huginn |
yes (9): Joubu, cait, tallerjoy, oleonard, ashimema, marcelr, khall, tcohen, thd |
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cait |
there you go |
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cait |
please update the wiki :) |
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ashimema |
thanks |
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kidclamp |
will do, thank you! |
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cait |
#action kidclamp to update wiki with changes, vote date etc. |
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ashimema |
any more general discussion points? |
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* oleonard |
would like to advertise Bug 25031 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve handling of multiple covers on the biblio detail page in the staff client |
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oleonard |
I think it's fun. Please test! |
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Joubu |
oleonard: Don't you think we should have a multiple sysprefs for cover images? |
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oleonard |
We do |
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oleonard |
the bug better accommodates covers when multiple preferences are enabled at once |
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Joubu |
really? |
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wahanui |
really is good to have josef_moravec back.. always get a boost from seeing a bunch of signoffs :) |
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cait |
some of them need extra parameters - probably not possible to wraup it all in one? |
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tcohen |
Why not add a new admin page "Cover images sources" |
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Joubu |
we should have one you mean? |
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oleonard |
My patch doesn't make any changes to the covers features, it merely changes the display if you have multiple cover sources enabled. |
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Joubu |
yes ok |
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cait |
tcohen: we have a pref tab - catalog enrichments or so |
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cait |
better display for mulitple is quite a long standing bug - thx for tackling it Owen :) |
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cait |
um oleonard |
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wahanui |
i guess oleonard is happy for ashimema to write the release script |
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oleonard |
If folks like it I will try to adapt some of those principles to search results & OPAC |
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ashimema |
:) |
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tcohen |
oleonard++ |
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* oleonard |
will accept karma if the patch works ;) |
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ashimema |
moving on... |
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Joubu |
nothing else? |
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ashimema |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
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ashimema |
I don't think we have anything to discus this time :) |
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oleonard |
I have a question that might be relevant |
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ashimema |
fire away |
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oleonard |
I was going to ask cait but I'll throw it out to you all: Do we have established rules for how to add the use of a cookie other than documenting it? |
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oleonard |
Rules about how the cookie can/should be removed, for instance? |
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marcelr |
Privacy stuff? |
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cait |
not that I know of - for the GDPR group my work was mostly documentation |
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cait |
i think if the feature is not used/active - set no cookie |
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cait |
keep cookie duration to a sensible length for the feature |
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cait |
be more careful in OPAC than in staff? |
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Joubu |
and use localStorage when possible |
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oleonard |
Was just about to say: guidelines for when to prefer cookies over localstorage and vice versa |
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marcelr |
right |
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Joubu |
when localStorage possible, use it |
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oleonard |
I'd like to hear more about folks' preference for localstorage |
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Joubu |
ie. no need to get the info on the server |
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cait |
i am not sure if we need to document those as well... but possibly? |
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marcelr |
kind of the same |
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Joubu |
nope |
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Joubu |
the usage is not the same |
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marcelr |
depends on what you store |
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Joubu |
if it's client only, you do not need to use a cookie |
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oleonard |
Joubu why wouldn't we document localstorage just as we do cookies? |
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Joubu |
we can, but there is no privacy concerns |
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marcelr |
not sure about that |
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Joubu |
localStorage is not shared with the server |
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marcelr |
thats not all |
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marcelr |
it is stored, maybe people dont want that |
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Joubu |
then use sessionStorage |
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cait |
i am really not sure about procedures there |
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Joubu |
it's stored as well but removed when the tab is closed |
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oleonard |
I think our answer should be: Document localstorage just as we do cookies because more information is better. |
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Joubu |
none is used at the OPAC it seems |
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Joubu |
from Koha code (but used by emoji-picker) |
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tcohen |
really? |
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wahanui |
really is probably good to have josef_moravec back.. always get a boost from seeing a bunch of signoffs :) |
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Joubu |
koha-tmpl/opac-tmpl/lib/emoji-picker/js/util.js: localStorage.setItem(key, value); |
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tcohen |
oh! |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget really |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot really |
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marcelr |
did we use sessionStorage for searches ? |
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oleonard |
marcelr yes |
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oleonard |
In the staff client |
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tcohen |
is there some docs to read so I undestand the concern about cookies¿ |
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cait |
forget really |
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cait |
wahanui: forget really |
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wahanui |
cait, I didn't have anything matching really |
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cait |
oh :) |
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Joubu |
found that if you want, there is a table that explains clearly the differences https://wpreset.com/localstora[…]ailed-comparison/ |
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oleonard |
tcohen: I think it all stems from GDPR |
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Joubu |
like "Accessible server-side – yes no no" |
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cait |
interesting |
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tcohen |
cookies and localStorage are the only way to have persistent state browser-side |
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cait |
https://softwareengineering.st[…]er-the-cookie-law (probably not best source) claims local storage is also eccected by cookies |
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marcelr |
eccected ? |
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cait |
hm does't seem like the original soruce of tha tstatement still exists, so probably need to do more research |
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cait |
sorry |
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marcelr |
well localstorage is also in the GDPR domain |
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wahanui |
okay, marcelr. |
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cait |
not against use - but we might be better off documenting |
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cait |
and from the beginning, because finding them al was no fun and I still feel i might have missed some |
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oleonard |
Okay: 1. Prefer localstorage if possible. 2. Document both cookies and localstorage. |
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oleonard |
Sound correct? |
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cait |
coudl someone try and phrase out an update to the coding guideline including this? |
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marcelr |
And hold back from adding them too much ? |
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Joubu |
prefer sessionstorage first |
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Joubu |
then local, then cookie |
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ashimema |
+1 |
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Joubu |
then send me cookies |
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oleonard |
I'd like to suggest that we document new cookies/localstorage on the wiki when we submit patches, not just after they're pushed to master |
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oleonard |
It'd be good to catch that stuff during QA |
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marcelr |
add when they are pushed |
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cait |
whoever catches it - there is a cookie keyword that can be set |
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cait |
we could note 'in dev' for version and the bug number |
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* oleonard |
likes that |
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tcohen |
sessionStorage would be the option for those concerned about privacy, but using that instead of localStorage would be a big behaviour change |
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tcohen |
am I getting it right? |
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oleonard |
tcohen: We could switch to sessionStorage for any cookie which we set only for the session |
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cait |
we can at least define a goal - and use it for new features, move ove the others |
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Joubu |
example, bug 25027 I wrote yesterday, move from sessionStorage to localStorage |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25027 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Result browser should not overload onclick event |
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Joubu |
(to see the difference between both) |
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oleonard |
Joubu++ |
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Joubu |
I think most of the time we need localStorage over sessionStorage |
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marcelr |
htg |
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oleonard |
The question came up for me in part because I was working on Bug 24625, which seems to be a great candidate for sessionStorage |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Phase out jquery.cookie.js: showLastPatron |
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Joubu |
sounds like it is, yes |
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oleonard |
Anyway, I think we needn't continue this discussion now since the meeting is running long now |
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cait |
you are rright |
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Joubu |
moving on? |
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Joubu |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 1 April 2020) |
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cait |
thx Joubu |
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cait |
2 weeks? |
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Joubu |
15 April 2020, ? |
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Joubu |
hour? |
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Joubu |
#info Next meeting: 15 April 2020, 20 UTC |
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Joubu |
that? |
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wahanui |
it has been said that that is what blou added in his patch |
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cait |
20 UTC? |
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wahanui |
i heard 20 UTC was currently set for the general meeting but I think 19 UTC may be closer to what people favoured in the preferred times poll. |
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cait |
not sure how this works with recent daylight savings changes |
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oleonard |
wahanui you are full of comments today |
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wahanui |
...but wahanui is back??!!!|a political leader|a conch... |
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cait |
i am wayyy too slow today :) |
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cait |
works for mw! |
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cait |
end? |
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Joubu |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Apr 1 15:15:09 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-04-01-14.07.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-04-01-14.07.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]01-14.07.log.html |
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Joubu |
will adjust later if needed |
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cait |
Joubu++ ashimema++ oleonard++ |
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oleonard |
Thanks all for your consideration of my cookie questions |
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cait |
i need ot look that word up |
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cait |
oleonard: maybe for carneval? |
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oleonard |
I now return you to your regular non-browser cookie discussions |
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cait |
:) |
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cait |
will take a break and then hopefully be able to switch into QA mode without falling asleep (again) |
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cait |
cya later .) |
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oleonard |
wahanui: forget rmaints |
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wahanui |
oleonard: I forgot rmaints |
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oleonard |
wahanui: rmaints is talljoy, lukeG, hayley |
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wahanui |
OK, oleonard. |
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ashimema |
thanks guys.. sorry I missed the end |
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oleonard |
ashimema: We understand that your Juggling Meeting was important |
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ashimema |
lol |
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Joubu |
So we have a general meeting at 20 UTC, a documentation meeting at 19 UTC, and dev at 21 |
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thd |
Joubu: There may be a lack of clarity about which direction to adjust for seasonal time changes and when more precisely one loses people from different time zones. |
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ashimema |
Lol, the hours of back to back meeting does sound a bit painful |
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ashimema |
S/the/three/ |
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reiveune |
bye |
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oleonard |
Hm, maybe I'll rewrite Bug 24625 a third time... |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24625 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Phase out jquery.cookie.js: showLastPatron |
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oleonard |
...because sessionStorage disappears when you close the tab, and that may be too much |
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oleonard |
...certainly not what users will have come to expect |
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cait |
no the tab is too early i think |
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cait |
hm |
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rangi |
morning |
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oleonard |
Hi |
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wahanui |
kia ora, oleonard |
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why morning |
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