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* ashimema |
giggles after reading last night's scrollback |
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ashimema |
Morning all |
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ashimema |
+1 for removing guided reports.. and perhaps pushing for better support in mana reports.. i.e. all the enhancements we suggested last hackfest starting to move |
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Bonjour |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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ashimema |
anyone know of any documentation on our existing timezone handling? |
| 09:33 |
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ashimema |
as in.. what level of support we suggest we have.. can a library have branches in multiple timezones for example.. are we consistently supporting the library being in one timezone and their server being in another |
| 09:33 |
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ashimema |
the code around it is cryptic |
| 09:37 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: there is the 'timezone' config |
| 09:37 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
| 09:37 |
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ashimema |
but what is it's intention ;) |
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eythian |
cait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?[…]&feature=youtu.be |
| 09:37 |
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Joubu |
So theorically you can have several instances on the same server |
| 09:37 |
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ashimema |
I'm not seeing any documentation about it. |
| 09:37 |
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Joubu |
with different tz |
| 09:38 |
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ashimema |
we have allot of places where you can type in datetime when only the date resolution is really used.. |
| 09:41 |
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Joubu |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]one_Configuration |
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Joubu |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=20123 |
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huginn |
Bug 20123: new feature, P5 - low, ---, kyle, CLOSED FIXED, Allow multiple instances of Koha to have different timezones on the same server |
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Joubu |
that's all we have |
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ashimema |
aha.. thanks |
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ashimema |
offline_circ/service.pl seems to be the only place where timezone is sent to dt_from_string |
| 10:17 |
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ashimema |
feels like we should drop that use and kill off the param to me |
| 10:19 |
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ashimema |
interestingly it does the fix I was aiming to put into DateUtils.. |
| 10:20 |
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ashimema |
converting from 'client' time (which is always UTC in KOCT) into the configured instance time |
| 10:32 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 10:32 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #1212: FIXED in 34 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/1212/ |
| 10:34 |
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cait |
ashimema: sorry, not sure i can contribute anything to that line of thought |
| 10:37 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D8 build #756: STILL UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/756/ |
| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
now I can't seem to get an hourly loan to work |
| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
grr |
| 10:47 |
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cait |
breath |
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cait |
what''s the issue? |
| 10:48 |
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ashimema |
I wasn't specific enough in my circ rule |
| 10:48 |
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ashimema |
think I've got it now.. just testing |
| 10:49 |
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ashimema |
aha.. there we go :) |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #677: FIXED in 52 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/677/ |
| 10:50 |
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ashimema |
for extenting due dates, bug 24608.. |
| 10:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24608 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Allow modification of checkout due date |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
should you be able to specify a time due for a daily loan.. |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
that makes no sense to me |
| 10:51 |
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cait |
i think you should |
| 10:51 |
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cait |
as you can do that when you use specify due date |
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ashimema |
but when you specify a due date at checkout you don't yet know the circ rule that's going to apply so you don't know if it's an hourly loan or a daily loan yet.. |
| 10:57 |
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cait |
? |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
so you can't limit the due date input picker at checkout.. but you can at renewal and update because you already know the loan time.. hourly or daily |
| 10:58 |
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cait |
i might be misunderstnading the bug you work on... but specify due date allows you to set a date before checkout and this allows you to modify after |
| 10:58 |
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cait |
in both cases we don't check circ rules, don't we? |
| 10:58 |
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cait |
why would you want to limit? |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
do we just pass in whatevr time they put in then... |
| 10:58 |
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ashimema |
wow |
| 10:59 |
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cait |
well it has to be a valid date/time |
| 10:59 |
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cait |
and it can be in the past, which is intentional and gerat for testing |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
mmm |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
except for a 'daily' loan anything except 23:59 should be invalid ;) |
| 11:00 |
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ashimema |
interesting... |
| 11:00 |
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ashimema |
this bug doesn't allow you to set a date before the original due date.. and I think that's right for this bug |
| 11:00 |
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ashimema |
but that's another thing entirely |
| 11:01 |
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ashimema |
what I'm trying to fix is Joubu's comment regarding having his timezone differnt in the client compared to the server.. |
| 11:01 |
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ashimema |
but actually.. what I've found is that for API use we always destroy timezone data which is weird |
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cait |
timezones? |
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cait |
oh wahanui, you disappoint |
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cait |
... because you are nothere |
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tcohen |
hola |
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cait |
hola |
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magnuse |
wizzyrea! |
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oleonard |
Hello |
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oleonard |
If I were to change the way report groups and subgroups were selected, what would be a reasonable amount of subgroups to expect to accommodate? Anyone know of any extreme examples? |
| 13:01 |
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cait |
not for us |
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cait |
we only got a handful, maybe you need someone consortia |
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magnuse |
oleonard: i have never seen anyone use subgroups |
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oleonard |
Ha. Maybe I can make them more usable |
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oleonard |
Thinking about (roughly) something like this: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15844535677735 |
| 14:03 |
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magnuse |
yeah, that looks good! |
| 14:04 |
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magnuse |
ashimema: after doing "git pull" for the first time in a while i got complaints about a missing libemail-messageid-perl and had to install it myself. is that to be expected? |
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ashimema |
what apt repo are you tracking? |
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ashimema |
unstable or nightly? |
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ashimema |
the nightlies are broken.. mirko's server is out of space so they've not been building properly in many months |
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ashimema |
and how do you manage your dependancies when you do a git pull |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
do you apt install koha-perldeps? |
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ashimema |
or koha-common or anything.. |
| 14:07 |
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ashimema |
only using those to update packages will pull all the listed dependancies |
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cait |
oleonard: i like it :) |
| 14:07 |
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cait |
maybe ... if more than x |
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cait |
? |
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cait |
but could be a lot more |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
nice |
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cait |
oleonard: it would be nice to test with a bit longer 'group names' |
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cait |
the english ones tend to be all very short, but our gemran ones can get longer |
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cait |
Serials = Zeitschriftenverwaltung (worst case) |
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oleonard |
https://www.thoughtco.com/long[…]the-world-4061494 |
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magnuse |
Krankenhaus! |
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magnuse |
ashimema: sorry, guess i didn't do apt-get upgrade. nm |
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ashimema |
no worries |
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ashimema |
is anyone qaing bug 24846 |
| 15:10 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24846 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a tool to bulk edit due dates |
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andrew__ |
I can't QA it, @ashimema, but I saw it and it's great! nice thinking, very timely |
| 15:16 |
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ashimema |
indeed.. |
| 15:16 |
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ashimema |
I'll QA it quickly as I'd love to see it in the next release |
| 15:17 |
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ashimema |
but only if no-one else can take a look.. I like to keep the qa step in there as much as I can.. |
| 15:17 |
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ashimema |
else we're removing checks.. and I know I'm not perfect.. the more eyes on these things the better |
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* ashimema |
runs to get kids from school |
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ashimema |
oops |
| 15:19 |
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Joubu |
I'd like someone that had to deal with that in a real-life situation |
| 15:19 |
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Joubu |
to make sure it deals with the different cases |
| 15:26 |
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caroline |
for real life situation, maybe ask vfernandes. they asked for that last week because all libraries in portugal are closed for two weeks |
| 15:35 |
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cait |
we update issues.date_due and items.on_loan |
| 15:36 |
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cait |
2 questions we had were about renewal notices (some want to send, others don't) and incrementing the renewal counter (we don't, but didn't get asked) |
| 15:37 |
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cait |
also people only want to get updates on due dates between x and y (nto the real old ones with fines and not the super future ones ) |
| 15:37 |
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cait |
i think when renewing items with fines, you need to do more things, we have avoided that (only updating iissues due today or in the future) |
| 15:38 |
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cait |
but it hink your feature probably uses internal functions? |
| 15:38 |
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cait |
ashimema: / Joubu - ^ hope that's helpful |
| 15:41 |
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cait |
all librareis closing now here i think |
| 15:42 |
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Joubu |
cait: the feature only update the due date in the DB, without dealing with fines or anything else |
| 15:43 |
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cait |
i am not sure of the consequences if you have an verdue item with an fu fine |
| 15:43 |
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cait |
then change the due date ... it gets overdue again |
| 15:43 |
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cait |
but it might keep updating the fu fine instead of the f fine? |
| 15:43 |
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cait |
hm |
| 15:43 |
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cait |
that was not quite right |
| 15:43 |
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cait |
i mean we are missing what usually happens on rnew - fu > f (or wahtever they are called now in master) |
| 15:44 |
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cait |
to avoid issues we have asked the libraries to update already overdue manually |
| 15:44 |
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cait |
got to go now - will be back from home tomorrow |
| 15:45 |
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cait |
or later :) |
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oleonard |
hash tag nofines |
| 15:49 |
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caroline |
+1 ^ |
| 15:50 |
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ashimema |
I'll take a look.. we have also been doing this already in real life and that's where our original description of the bug came from ;) |
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reiveune |
bye |
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ashimema |
bug 24722 |
| 16:50 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24722 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Passed QA , reserves.priority must be NOT NULL |
| 16:50 |
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ashimema |
do we not need to catch and update existing NULLs before it'll allow us to conver to NOT NULL |
| 16:50 |
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ashimema |
Joubu ^ |
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Joubu |
ashimema: we could, but that should not exist |
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ashimema |
shouldn't.. but iy bet it does ;) |
| 18:31 |
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ashimema |
* shouldn't.. but it bet it does ;) |
| 18:32 |
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ashimema |
I'm sure there was a SIP bug recently that put reserves in with NULLs |
| 18:32 |
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ashimema |
maybe I'm mis-remembering |
| 18:32 |
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cait |
hm no i seem to remember that too |
| 18:34 |
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lisettelatah |
Was that bug 24680 |
| 18:34 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24680 minor, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Pushed to master , Hold modification endpoints don't always work properly |
| 18:35 |
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ashimema |
bug 24705 perhaps |
| 18:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24705 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Holds placed via SIP will be given first priority |
| 18:36 |
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ashimema |
Prior to that patch SIP called AddReserve without a priority at all |
| 18:38 |
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ashimema |
yup.. looking at AddReserve it looks like we could have ended up with NULLs in there before now. |
| 18:38 |
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ashimema |
so we should deal with them |
| 18:38 |
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ashimema |
fancy doing a followup or I can have a go later this evening once I've walked the dog and got the girls to bed |
| 18:39 |
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ashimema |
thanks team |
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corilynn |
oleonard, are you here? |
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corilynn |
or, anyone that can help me with kohadevbox ? |
| 20:02 |
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corilynn |
I'm getting a failure message on this step: kohadevbox : Install Koha | Add official Koha repository (repo) |
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cait |
hm it looks like the https on git.koha-community.org might not be ok right now |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
maybe that could cause it? |
| 20:12 |
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cait |
hm ok, that might be a wrong lead |
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cait |
my link was odd |
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cait |
doe sit just hang or is there some error? |
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oleonard |
corilynn, I'm here now |
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* cait |
will leave it to oleonard |
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* oleonard |
has had good luck with koha-testing-docker lately after kohadevbox started failing again |
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mja |
Hey everyone, I got this report from the SQL reports library: it's supposed to find records with a specific MARC field. Is there a way to change it so it grabs bib records WITHOUT a specific MARC field? Even better, without several given MARC fields? |
| 20:39 |
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mja |
SELECT biblionumber, CONCAT('<a href=\"/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=', biblionumber, '\">', biblionumber, '</a>' ) AS link FROM biblio_metadata WHERE ExtractValue(metadata,'//datafield/@tag') REGEXP <<MARC field>> |
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cait |
mja: i usually use something like ="" |
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cait |
ExtractValue(metadata,'//datafield/@tag' = "" |
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cait |
that is 'not exists' as it will come back with an empty string |
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cait |
ExtractValue(metadata,'//datafield/@tag' is not quite right, you need to fix that |
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cait |
examples are in the library |
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mja |
Thanks. I did pull this directly from the library, though.. maybe it's an older one? |
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cait |
maybe it's meant as an example |
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cait |
so you are supposed to change the extractvalue bit |
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corilynn |
sorry, oleonard, boss lady called |
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corilynn |
is there anyway to get kohadevbox working? something about ansible? |
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oleonard |
Sounds like a hilarious Dilbert scenario if I ever heard one |
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corilynn |
I could go on... |
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oleonard |
corilynn: Paste the output that shows the failure? http://paste.koha-community.org/ |
| 20:49 |
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corilynn |
I'm getting an error for vagrant up at kohadevbox : Install Koha | Add official |
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corilynn |
yes |
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corilynn |
did that work? |
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corilynn |
http://paste.koha-community.org/19076 |
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oleonard |
corilynn are you on Windows? |
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corilynn |
no, ubuntu |
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corilynn |
with no UI (don't ask, it's a long story) |
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oleonard |
Sorry corilynn I've dealt with a number of kohadevbox issues before but this one doesn't look familiar |
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corilynn |
where would "apt cache update" be? |
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