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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
salut, reiveune |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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Joubu |
@later tell talljoy sorry, read too fast yesterday. 23673 has been modified as expected! |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
morning #koha |
| 09:18 |
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kohaputti |
Joubu, what are the plans for moving the UI part of the circ rule refactoring forward now? Will it happen this month? |
| 09:19 |
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Joubu |
I need to be tested first :) Then QAed.. No idea when it will happen |
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cait |
kohaputti: got my train tickets to marseille this morning :) |
| 09:20 |
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Joubu |
It* |
| 09:22 |
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kohaputti |
Joubu, I would like to use ccode or shelving location as a way to specify rules and adding more and more such things seems to not work with the current ui proposed since it will add exponetially(?) more things to configure? |
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Joubu |
IIRC there was a discussion on a bug report about that |
| 09:24 |
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Joubu |
maybe it was you |
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kohaputti |
there is? |
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kohaputti |
let me find it... |
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kohaputti |
it could be me many years ago |
| 09:24 |
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Joubu |
cait may know :) |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
reading |
| 09:25 |
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kohaputti |
I found Bug 17593 |
| 09:25 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17593 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Extend circulation rules to include shelving location |
| 09:25 |
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cait |
it comes up again and again |
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cait |
i think it will make thigns even more difficult... but |
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cait |
librareis. |
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cait |
i don't see why it would not work |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
categorycode and itemtype are not mandatory either are they? |
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magnuse |
@quote get 123 |
| 09:26 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011) |
| 09:26 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
i mean we can still do all |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
so we could add another column for location i guess |
| 09:26 |
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kohaputti |
our libraries use ccodes for special collections and it would be great if that collection could have its own rules |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
i'd just suggest ot be clear what priority will be applied.... |
| 09:26 |
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kohaputti |
like shorter loan period or only on-site checkouts allowed |
| 09:26 |
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cait |
we work around those issues currently by using different itemtypes and grouping them for search using ITEMTYPECAT |
| 09:27 |
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cait |
we also encourage librareis to use itemtypes as ITEM not material types |
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cait |
they don't always listen :) |
| 09:27 |
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cait |
but that means we have itemtypes like "reference" "normal loan" "overnight" sometiems, when it fits |
| 09:28 |
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* kohaputti |
needs to look up ITEMTYPECAT |
| 09:28 |
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cait |
it allows you to group multiple itemtypes on the advanced sarch page... it's helpful |
| 09:29 |
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cait |
but... doesn't work with transltaions right now (only single language) - Joubus patch shoud fix that (another giant to test) |
| 09:32 |
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kohaputti |
cait, and using location and ccode works since we have it like that in our fork. If the item doesn't have either of those then it will then just match a more generic rule |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
yes, there needs to be a clear sequence |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
of things to check |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
as we allow 'all' settings |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
i think the bugs I have seen asked for shelving location additionally |
| 09:33 |
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kohaputti |
there is already know, I think it is branch -> category -> itemtype |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
so in combination with itemtype, not instead |
| 09:33 |
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kohaputti |
s/know/now/ |
| 09:33 |
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cait |
yep, so we need to decide where teh shelving/collections fit |
| 09:35 |
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kohaputti |
cait, we could also make the order user configurable. It would be a quite small change to the code. |
| 09:36 |
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kohaputti |
more sysprefs! :D |
| 09:37 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: with bug 24590, all runs will be green ;) |
| 09:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24590 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Koha/Object.t is failing on MySQL 8 |
| 09:38 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 09:38 |
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ashimema |
thanks Joubu.. |
| 09:39 |
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ashimema |
that'll be really nice.. it's been a while since it's all been green.. the failures haven't been hugely worrying (mostly that missing dependancy).. but it's really nice to have a clean sweep again :) |
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Joubu |
especially after a big push ;) |
| 09:40 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 09:40 |
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cait |
kohaputti: it scars me to death |
| 09:40 |
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cait |
unless the gui can be made really clear for it - i'd rather not have all the possible switches |
| 09:41 |
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cait |
people are already so confused about what applies and half the time i have a hard time epxlaining the difference between default and library specific rules :( |
| 09:41 |
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cait |
and which kid of library this is applied to |
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kohaputti |
let's hope the new ui will make things easier |
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cait |
let's hope :) |
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kohaputti |
Joubu, can you rebase bug 15522? There might be people interested to test it. |
| 10:55 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=15522 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , New interface for revamped circulation rules |
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kohaputti |
actually it still depends on bug 21156 so we should focus on that |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21156 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Internationalization: plural forms, context, and more for JS files |
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Joubu |
kohaputti: there is a remote branch |
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kohaputti |
yes I know |
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Joubu |
kohaputti: rebased and pushed |
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kohaputti |
thanks! :) |
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kidclamp |
!bang |
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AnnaBoten |
There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24590: Fix Koha/Object.t on MySQL 8 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]43817decf6dfb19cb> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22302: Make ITEMTYPECAT descriptions fallback to lib description if no opac descr... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d19f213dcb2308956> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 22302: Unit tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]05b544cab52d655d9> |
| 12:40 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24529: Silence another uninitialised value warning <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]78aab0889df43357b> |
| 12:40 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24529: Silence warnings for title level holds <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]b78ef55fbec6dad2e> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24485: Allow hold when some can be overridden <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]534842984c2f01df4> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24420: Display waiting on hold items in the Cataloging search results Location... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f333914d671129acf> |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23844: Check if field defined in framework and specify 'Default' for framework <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]be3848d35f741958d> |
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lukeG |
cait++ |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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tcohen |
hi all |
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tcohen |
!bang |
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AnnaBoten |
There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23673: DBRev 19.12.00.019 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0b1b35f204eb2bd1e> |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24595: Silent warnings from Circulation.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52c5374f293b88ac3> |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23673: Set updated_on=time_queued on DB update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]a1c02241c67d6360d> |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23673: Avoid sleep in tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3072bcd16a2101cb4> |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 24449: Add too_many_overdue to patron status for SIP <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac03fd8d8f4bb9010> |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23784: Show subtitle, number and part in course reserve list of records <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5888d99551d2605de> |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23673: Add "Updated on" column to patron's notices <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]41c480d4d9c597a52> |
| 14:28 |
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huginn |
News from kohagit: Bug 23673: Change DB Structure <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]1e52b6add0a37a0e1> |
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lukeG |
Morning all! |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
good morning! |
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* cait |
waves |
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talljoy |
good morning all! |
| 14:42 |
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talljoy |
@joubu got you message. thanks! |
| 14:42 |
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huginn |
talljoy: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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oleonard |
BOTFIGHT |
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Joubu |
wahanui: go search for huginn! |
| 14:47 |
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wahanui |
Joubu: sorry... |
| 14:47 |
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Joubu |
go search for huginn! |
| 14:48 |
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Joubu |
ho it's fixed |
| 14:48 |
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Joubu |
what a shame |
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* talljoy |
hides behind the bar |
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ashimema |
Hnn |
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Joubu |
yeah, D8 FTW! |
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Joubu |
ashimema: no idea why we have those random API failures. They are all different! |
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ashimema |
it's weird isn't it.. I've tried to replicate them a few times with no luck |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ashimema: how is an overpayment refund generated? |
| 15:56 |
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ashimema |
er.. |
| 15:56 |
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ashimema |
in what koha version? |
| 15:56 |
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ashimema |
that's an area Ive been refining of late ;) |
| 15:56 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
my client is in 19.05 |
| 15:57 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
they have overpayment refunds that seem to come out of nowhere |
| 15:59 |
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ashimema |
how are you identifying them as 'overpayment refunds'.. what do you mean by that? |
| 16:00 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
it says so in the description https://snipboard.io/cr93u0.jpg |
| 16:00 |
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ashimema |
it tends ot happen if the patron has paid off a fine whilst it's accruiing (via the opac online payments).. and then they return the item on a closed day so the fine cal gets backdated and ends up less than the amount they paid |
| 16:01 |
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ashimema |
that appens |
| 16:02 |
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* caroline_crazycatlady |
hates credit questions... >_< |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
and is this automatic or is it enabled by a syspref? |
| 16:03 |
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* ashimema |
doesn't like those db level descriptions.. we should drop them all |
| 16:03 |
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ashimema |
automatic |
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ashimema |
it's inside the adjust method |
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reiveune |
bye |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I agree on the descriptions... db descriptions are not translatable... |
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* ashimema |
reads code for a moment |
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ashimema |
yeah.. that's pretty much the main way as explained above |
| 16:08 |
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ashimema |
are they using online payments? |
| 16:09 |
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ashimema |
and calculating fines on return? |
| 16:12 |
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ashimema |
bug 24338 is just for your branch and just went PQA :) |
| 16:12 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24338 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , CASH is missing from the default payment_types |
| 16:12 |
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ashimema |
oop.. wrong window |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
afaik they don't use online payments... however, they do have calculatefinesonreturn activated |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
if i understand the chronology, the user was late they paid their fine and renewed, not it is still late and accruing |
| 16:16 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
what bugs me is that the amounts and the dates are really weird |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
they paid 3$ and renewed on jan.9, new due date is jan 30, then on feb 3 there is an overpayment refund of 2,40 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
the fines are still accuruing since jan 30 |
| 16:18 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
why feb 3 and why 2,40? where does that come from? |
| 16:18 |
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* caroline_crazycatlady |
will have less hair at the end of today |
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ashimema |
so are they paying before renewing via the staff client? |
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ashimema |
if I remember correctly renewals don't add a new checkout line.. they update the original checkout due date and increment a renewal counter... don't they |
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ashimema |
so you kinda have to work backwards to get he old due date |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
exactly, I went by the dates in the statistics table |
| 16:21 |
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ashimema |
basically.. if for whatever reason they pay a still acruing fine just before a recalculation (like a renew or return will perform) and that recalc comes in as less than they paid.. they'll get an overpayment.. |
| 16:21 |
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ashimema |
they didn't change he fine rates or circ rules of something recently did they? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
but why feb. 3? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
do we have logs of changes in the circ rules? |
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ashimema |
that could also do it.. i.e if they reduced their fine rates you could easily end up in the same condition |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
of course if I ask them, they'll say they didn't touch anything |
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ashimema |
hang on.. |
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ashimema |
they paid on 9th.. then got an overpayment refund on the 3rd |
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ashimema |
that's wrong.. |
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ashimema |
oh.. |
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ashimema |
not nesessarily |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
the library is open 7 days a week, so the fines should accrue everyday |
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ashimema |
where did you get jan 9 from? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ooh, I see there is a payment of 12$ on the 9th (which I assume contains the 3$) AND an amneesty of 3$... I have to check in account_offsets to see what each pays |
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ashimema |
I only see feb 5th and feb 3rd |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
oh yeah, I didn't screenshot the whole thing, hang on |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
https://snipboard.io/ZP4hL6.jpg |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
There are 4 cases, but I'm looking specifically at the barcode ending in 598 to establish the chronology |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
ugh, and I never remember if a payment is account_offsets is a credit or a debit... |
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ashimema |
wow.. that set really is confusing |
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ashimema |
that looks like they paid the fine AND wrote it off too |
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ashimema |
that's weird |
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ashimema |
is the user meant to be exemp of fines I wonder |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
yeah not sure how that happened |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
I'm looking through the account_offsets to see if I can understand |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
omg it's weirder and weirder |
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ashimema |
it's bad that we don't somehow record the original due date in the fine when it's 'fixed' |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
the payment of 12$ is for the 4 fines of 3$, but the 4 amnesties of 3$ are for the 0,90$ fines above |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
but 3-0,90 is still not 2,40 |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
@_@ |
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huginn |
caroline_crazycatlady: I'll give you the answer just as soon as RDA is ready |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, huginn. |
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ashimema |
wha... |
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ashimema |
:'( |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
do you think it could be related to bug 23788? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23788 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to master , Writing off multiple fees allows 'overpayment' of those fees |
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ashimema |
could well be |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
it is fixed in 19.11, but the client has 19.05.04 |
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ashimema |
afriad I don't really remember the details of that one |
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ashimema |
but that does certainly sound likely at this point |
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ashimema |
hmm.. wonder why it wasn't backported.. |
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ashimema |
another one missed :(? |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
so when you renew a late item, do the fines have the status RETURNED? |
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ashimema |
yeah.. thats horrible |
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ashimema |
there's a bug for that |
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ashimema |
the issue is how we record status's.. |
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ashimema |
it was fine before we started to show the status |
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ashimema |
but it no longer makes much sense.. |
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ashimema |
I will be working on a tidy up bug for that shortly.. |
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ashimema |
could do with a few other things getting SO'd first really.. those tree's are growing massive again :( |
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ashimema |
I'd never noticed the checkout dates stuff either.. that's pretty horrible |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
there's also the due dates... 12/14/2019 is the due date of the first renewal, not the original due date nor the current due date (after the second renewal) |
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caroline_crazycatlady |
even in the "Make a payment" tab, the due date is wrong https://snipboard.io/lfcap8.jpg |
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ashimema |
haha |
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ashimema |
I literally just created bug 24596 for that |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24596 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, NEW , Due dates confusing on fines for renewed items |
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ashimema |
it's not going to be easy to fix though :( |
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ashimema |
feel free to comment to clarify it :) |
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ashimema |
I was rushing |
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ashimema |
bug 14376 is the other wording one btw |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14376 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, matthias.meusburger, Failed QA , Allow the librarian to choose a patron when entering a purchase suggestion |
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ashimema |
oop |
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ashimema |
bug 24376 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=24376 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Wording of Fine Returned is confusing |
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on pay.pl is there a good reason why I can add a note if I select 'Pay amount', 'Pay selected', or 'Write off selected' yet I cannot add a note when choosing 'Pay' or 'Write-off'? |
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ashimema |
Probably just an oversight |
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ashimema |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Feb 5 20:00:28 2020 UTC. The chair is ashimema. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_5_february_2020' |
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ashimema |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ruary_2020#Agenda Agenda |
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ashimema |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020) |
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ashimema |
please use "#info" in front of your introduction to have it show up in the automatic minutes |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe, UK |
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JesseM |
#info Jesse Maseto, BWS, USA |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, New Zealand |
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lisettelatah |
#info Lisette Scheer, Latah County Library District, USA |
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josef_moravec |
#info Josef Moravec |
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wizzyrea |
#info Liz Rea |
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khall |
#info Kyle M Hall, ByWater Solutions |
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ashimema |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020) |
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ashimema |
#info GBSD 14th February, Valentine's Edition |
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ashimema |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bug_squashing_day GBSD Details |
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ashimema |
Lets get that majors queue under 100! :) |
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ashimema |
anyone else want to announce anything? |
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JesseM |
ByWater Solutions will be hosting a YouTube Live Session on Friday, February 14th from 11:00 am EST to 1:00 pm EST where we will SQUASH SOME BUGS!!!! Join in, chat with us and ask questions!! |
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JesseM |
Join us at: https://www.youtube.com/user/b[…]tersolutions/live |
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ashimema |
awesome, bywater++ |
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ashimema |
#info ByWater Solutions will be hosting a YouTube Live Session on Friday 14th from 11am EST to 1pm EST in support of GBSD |
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JesseM |
Going to be a good time squashing bugs |
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ashimema |
#link https://www.youtube.com/user/b[…]tersolutions/live Join in |
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ashimema |
hat's awesome guys, thanks :) |
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bag |
#info brendan bywater |
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ashimema |
bywater++ |
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ashimema |
#topic Update from the Release Team |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020) |
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ashimema |
Squashing the updates into one short section to save on time ;) |
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ashimema |
#info Release is moving along nicely, lots of bugfixes and enhancements getting pushed.. Thanks everyone for the consistent level of SO and QA. |
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ashimema |
#info Bug 18936 - Circulation Rules Ratification has been pushed, thanks to all involved, and sorry for the rebases it may have created for people.. its a big step in the right direction for koha's codebase modernisation and maintainability wise. |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18936 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to master , Convert issuingrules fields to circulation_rules |
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ashimema |
#topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020) |
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ashimema |
#info Deprecate/remove QueryParser (see Bug 12742) |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12742 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Omnibus: QueryParser |
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ashimema |
this one was from cait, but I think a few of us have been thinking about it for a while.. |
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ashimema |
should we start the process of stripping out QueryParser code.. |
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ashimema |
at this point I don't know anyone using it.. but that doesn't mean nobody is.. |
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ashimema |
less code to maintain and all that... |
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ashimema |
bywater.. do you have any partners using queryparser? |
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wizzyrea |
i'm not sure we'd know - how would we tell? (sorry if that's a dumb question) |
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josef_moravec |
Hea says only 5 of roughly 2300 instances uses it |
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wizzyrea |
what problems would it have solved? |
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ashimema |
not sure how accurate hea is.. but it shows a trend at the very least |
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ashimema |
#link https://hea.koha-community.org/systempreferences HEA stats |
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wizzyrea |
it's off by default yeah? |
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ashimema |
I believe the idea was that it was a re-write/cleanup of the searching logic in generall.. but starting with the idea of sharing the search query parsing logic from evergreen.. |
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ashimema |
but.. I don't think it ever fully worked and reached critical mass |
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ashimema |
if it was going to be re-invigorated I feel it was have been with the coming of ES code.. |
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ashimema |
but that went a very different route |
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ashimema |
it if inded disabled by default |
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josef_moravec |
it is disabled by default |
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ashimema |
it is indeed disabled by default.. even |
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* ashimema |
would rather see the effort put into making ES great than try and maintain 3 sets of search code |
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ashimema |
we can save a vote for next meeting.. but worth raising to get people thinking about it.. |
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ashimema |
#action Add vote for QueryParser removal to next meeting agenda |
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ashimema |
moving on |
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ashimema |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020) |
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ashimema |
#info Vote for SWAGGER1.3.4: mapping |
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ashimema |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]es_-_API#SWAGGER1.3.4:mapping-_DRAFT Guideline |
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ashimema |
So, as discussed at the last meeting we wanted to add some guidelines around api field mappings to help lower the debate around them during votes. |
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ashimema |
I've drafted the above and run them past tcohen and a few other interested parties.. |
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ashimema |
I suggest taking a vote on the first two guidelines and leaving the third to another time as that's still in discussion whilst we work through the embed technicalities. |
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ashimema |
do we have enough people here to take a vote? |
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josef_moravec |
we are 7 or 8 according to info... |
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ashimema |
indeed |
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JesseM |
How many do we need? |
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* ashimema |
works on the vote question for a second.. |
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ashimema |
I think we're corate enough.. i was testing that people are still out there as much as anything ;) |
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ashimema |
#startvote Do you agree with adding the proposed new coding guideline as phrased (First 2 points only)? Yes, No, Abstain |
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huginn |
Begin voting on: Do you agree with adding the proposed new coding guideline as phrased (First 2 points only)? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. |
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huginn |
Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. |
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ashimema |
#vote Yes |
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josef_moravec |
#vote Yes |
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lisettelatah |
#vote Yes |
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davidnind |
#vote Yes |
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JesseM |
#vote Yes |
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khall |
#vote Yes |
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ashimema |
last calls... |
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ashimema |
#endvote |
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huginn |
Voted on "Do you agree with adding the proposed new coding guideline as phrased (First 2 points only)?" Results are |
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huginn |
Yes (6): davidnind, josef_moravec, lisettelatah, ashimema, khall, JesseM |
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ashimema |
excellent.. hopefully that'll help lower the cahnces of getting stuck in planning blight :) |
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josef_moravec |
ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
#topic Set date and time for next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set date and time for next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 February 2020) |
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ashimema |
I'm suggesting 19 February 2020, 14 UTC |
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ashimema |
fits the patturn |
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ashimema |
back to the early slot |
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ashimema |
any objections? |
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ashimema |
#info Next meeting: 19 February 2020, 14 UTC |
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ashimema |
#endmeeting |
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Meeting ended Wed Feb 5 20:31:26 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-02-05-20.00.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]0-02-05-20.00.txt |
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Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]05-20.00.log.html |
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ashimema |
thanks everyone.. a nice quick, but fruitfull meeting :) |
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davidnind |
ashimema++ |
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lisettelatah |
ashimema++ |
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clocks off for the evening |
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