IRC log for #koha, 2019-11-25

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06:13 aaru_swartz Hi Team Koha
06:13 aaru_swartz Thanks for all the support you have given so far.
06:14 aaru_swartz I am facing an issue in uploading bulk data in Koha
06:14 aaru_swartz Let me please know if this is the right place to ask for help
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07:09 cait @later tell caroline_catlady bug 22252 is probably related to the typo you found
07:09 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
07:10 magnuse \o/
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07:29 marcelr hi #koha
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07:37 fridolin aloa
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07:51 alex_a Bonjour
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07:57 reiveune hello
07:57 wahanui salut, reiveune
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08:06 cait good morning k
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08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24093: Sorting indicators broken on list contents view <[…]1b272ab2493e4d5ff>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24084: PlainMARC view broken on OPAC if other $.ajax calls produce errors <[…]425e4275ec791db8f>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24072: Typos in causes DUEDGST not to be sent <[…]7252fc935ad599f74>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24013: Add tests <[…]c6128b82c23d1c208>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24013: Fix transferbook if item is checked out <[…]dd9d6239867d9df67>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23901: Fix indentation <[…]325402c16de8e58da>
08:45 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23901: Fix sms_input is null in <[…]cdf4f01fe90531ed3>
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09:48 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
09:48 wahanui Congratulations!
09:48 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_My8 build #24: FIXED in 1 hr 1 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Master_D9_My8/24/
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13:05 magnuse wow, quiet day...
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14:03 corilynn aaru_swartz, are you still having problems with bulk load?
14:04 tcohen morning all
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14:05 corilynn mornin' tcohen
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14:13 caroline_catlady Good morning everyone!
14:13 tcohen hicaroline_catlady corilynn cait
14:15 caroline_catlady cait, can you explain more about bug 22552?
14:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22552 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Adding users to serials routing search requires edit_borrowers permission
14:15 caroline_catlady I'm not sure which typo you're talking about... :/
14:15 cait oh
14:16 cait i think I typoed the bug number
14:16 cait bug 22522
14:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22522 is not accessible.
14:16 cait nope
14:16 cait 22252
14:16 cait bug 22252
14:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22252 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Status messages returned by Mana are not translatable
14:16 cait this one
14:16 wahanui this one is big enough as is
14:16 cait caroline_catlady: ^
14:16 caroline_catlady oh yeah ok!
14:16 cait sorry for the confusion :)
14:17 cait funnily it was the random bug on the dashboard yesterday
14:17 cait that's how i found it
14:18 caroline_catlady Should I mark it as duplicate?
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14:25 caroline_catlady I'm not sure of the ettiquette for bug 24046
14:25 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24046 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Needs Signoff , 'Activate filters' untranslatable
14:25 caroline_catlady Can I sign it off? I reported it, but my colleague submitted a patch
14:25 caroline_catlady I know I'm not supposed to sign off things done by inlibro
14:29 cait i am not sure what the current rule is
14:29 cait but i wouldn't mind
14:30 caroline_catlady We have to have two sign-offs anyway, right?
14:34 cait not quite
14:34 cait one sign-off from "anyone" and a QA
14:34 cait but you can sign-off and still ask for another
14:34 Joubu it's a tiny patch, that's fine :)
14:34 cait the only thing I was wondering about this patch was if we shoudl include it in the datatables string file
14:34 cait or really make a new one
14:34 cait but no owen around to ask - it's why I added him CC
14:37 Joubu that's what I was going to comment
14:38 cait but the approach looks good
14:39 Joubu yes
14:40 caroline_catlady thanks Joubu, I will wait for Maryse to change the file and I will sign it off
14:40 caroline_catlady (if it works, lol!)
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15:34 nlegrand Bonjour !
15:36 Joubu @later tell rangi could you have a look at the rebased patch I attached to bug 23672?
15:36 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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15:45 wizzyrea hi
15:49 Joubu oleonard: bug 24104 - is this new?
15:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=24104 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Item search - dropdown buttons overflow
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16:19 reiveune bye
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16:38 caroline_catlady why would I be blocked from seeing a bug on bugzilla? I have a reference to bug 22522 in one of my internal support tickets, but bz tells me I am not allowed to see it?
16:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22522 is not accessible.
16:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23964: (follow-up) We should check for only active holds when determining to... <[…]769363dde1ca0247b>
16:41 davidnind it will be a security-relate bug
16:41 caroline_catlady ah ok, and they mask it so that it's not viewable to the internet
16:41 caroline_catlady I get it
16:42 caroline_catlady btw hi!
16:42 davidnind hi caroline_catalady!
16:42 * ashimema adds caroline to the cc list.
16:43 ashimema that should have opened it up to you now caroline_catalady
16:43 ashimema * that should have opened it up to you now caroline_catlady
16:43 caroline_catlady ok thanks :)
16:47 * cait waves
16:47 vfernandes #koha it's possible to set the "no renewal before" to count only open days?
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16:57 corilynn i swear I googled before I asked, but what's the release date for 19.11?
16:58 ashimema 27th
16:58 ashimema Planed 19.11 release
16:58 ashimema Wednesday, 27 November
16:58 corilynn thanks ashimema!
17:01 cait khall: are we sure it should not be visible on quick add? there is a not specifically referring to quick add
17:02 khall cait I'm referring to the 'empty' patron fieldset inside the "Guarantor information" fieldset
17:02 cait just commented
17:04 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24100: (bug 23788 follow-up) Capitalization correction <[…]ba0f63e3aeba97c04>
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17:08 cait khall: sorry, not sure i understand yet - but it's probably me today
17:10 khall what you are referring to is actually cruft that should be removed. We split the Koha guarantor functionality from the non-koha guarantor. That stuff is all under "Contact" now, and doesn't have any practical effect in Koha
17:11 cait stilllost, but I blam the stupid cold
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19:15 rangi Joubu: the 5.0.6 one?
19:18 rangi @later tell Joubu done
19:18 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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20:01 caroline_catlady can someone help with sphinx? I'm trying to install it so that I can preview my changes to the docs before committing them. I think I have version problems
20:01 cait it's been a while since i tried
20:01 cait what error are you getting?
20:01 caroline_catlady when I run sphinx-build -b html bla bla, it says I'm missing sphinxcontrib.spelling
20:02 caroline_catlady when I try to install that, it says Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement Sphinx>=2.0.0
20:02 caroline_catlady It seems I have Sphinx 1.8.5
20:02 caroline_catlady But I litterally JUST installed it, why didn't it install the latest version?
20:02 cait checking if i can find my notes from last time sec
20:02 cait how did you install it?
20:03 caroline_catlady I started by installing pip sudo apt install python-pip
20:03 caroline_catlady and then I did sudo pip install Sphinx
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20:04 rangi hmmm
20:04 rangi are you using debian/ubuntu caroline_catlady ?
20:04 caroline_catlady I have ubuntu 18.04
20:05 rangi cos, i use apt-get it
20:05 rangi[…]/master/
20:05 rangi sudo apt-get install python3-sphinx python3-sphinxcontrib.spelling
20:05 cait my notes say: sudo -H pip install 'sphinx==1.5.1' --force-reinstall sudo -H pip install sphinxcontrib-spelling
20:05 cait i have on idea how i came up with that ho
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20:05 cait and you probably want to try it with a newer version
20:05 davidnind with 18.04 use pip3
20:05 rangi yeah, i just use apt-get
20:06 rangi but yep, pip3 if not using the packaged version
20:06 rangi (im on debian, so ymmv)
20:06 caroline_catlady rangi, the sudo apt-get command that you wrote, is that one line?
20:06 caroline_catlady or two?
20:07 rangi one line
20:07 caroline_catlady ah oops! :) I just did the first part
20:07 corilynn help! where are the macros saved? only as a cookie in the browser?
20:08 davidnind my bad
20:08 davidnind I used sudo apt-get install python3-sphinx  python3-sphinxcontrib.spelling (only reinstalled in the last week)
20:09 rangi heh :)
20:09 cait corilynn: to my knowledge yes - there is a bug open abou tmaking them more permanent i think
20:09 davidnind (I'm on Ubuntu 18.04)
20:09 corilynn cait, I need to ++ that IMMEDIATELY
20:10 cait i'll look for it
20:10 corilynn I found it
20:10 corilynn bug 17268
20:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17268 normal, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Advanced cataloging editor - rancor - macros are lost when browser storage cleared
20:10 corilynn do up votes matter?
20:11 rangi nope
20:11 corilynn :(
20:11 rangi but they might make you feel better :)
20:11 caroline_catlady ugh, I'm still getting that same error...
20:11 rangi caroline_catlady: it might be still using the pip installed version
20:12 rangi corilynn: basically people work either on what they are paid to work on, or, what interests them
20:12 corilynn kidclamp, I see a patch created 10/2, but it wasn't sent to QA?
20:12 rangi corilynn: so the votes don't really factor into that
20:13 corilynn rangi, I get that, I was hoping they might make some sort of difference in the QA queue, but that probably works the same way too
20:13 rangi yep
20:13 rangi however everything that gets to the QA step (passed signed off) gets looked at
20:13 rangi and usually quite fast
20:13 rangi its the initial dev and the initial sign off that usually takes a while
20:13 corilynn rangi, that has not been my experience
20:14 rangi nothing older than september in the signed off queue (ie waiting for qa)
20:15 corilynn ok, if September = fast, then I will agree?
20:15 corilynn sorry, i worked for one of the "big 5" for software development... fast was like less than a day. Slow was less than 2 weeks
20:16 rangi sure, and you had inhouse people paid to do qa that you could tell to do it right
20:16 corilynn yeah
20:16 rangi so apples and oranges
20:16 corilynn my husband was one of those QAs
20:16 corilynn I know, i know
20:17 davidnind I would reverse the changes using pip uninstall ... then use ^^^ (pip instead of pip3 installs the python version 2 versions of things)
20:17 corilynn I've never worked in open source before (other than to be rebuked when I fixed something that they wanted to be broken)
20:17 rangi :(
20:17 rangi in the scheme of things, koha is really fast paced
20:17 corilynn ok
20:18 rangi i mean it can always be faster, more people doing QA is good, but getting clients to pay for that, that's the hard thing
20:18 davidnind caroline_catlady: if you do get it to work locally you will get a lot of warnings, I'm about a day and 1/2 into fixing them...
20:19 rangi (1348 patches, with 3149 sign offs in the 6 months from 19.05 release to today)
20:19 cait corilynn: at the moment... SO is a bottleneck too - QA is usually keeping up somewhat
20:19 cait but we are not looking at new feautres right now until the release is out
20:19 rangi yeah that queue is getting large :(
20:20 rangi 195 waiting signoff
20:20 rangi some from 2018
20:20 cait but it's hard to herd cats - for every qa person it's a struggle between paid work and community work
20:20 cait paid work usually gets preference
20:21 cait paying for people like Joubu helps - I think now he is back it will be flowing a bit more in some areas
20:21 rangi Catalyst (where I work) has done way way less signoffs and QA this cycle than we normally would, hopefully can do more the next release cycle
20:23 rangi corilynn: on the upside, we have a couple of clients who exclusively use rancor (the advanced editor) so we might be able to work on that feature
20:24 rangi sadly the patch just adds a table, no code to use it. So there's still a lot to do
20:25 rangi corilynn: it might also be worth talking to Biblibre about if mana-kb could be used to share macros
20:25 rangi it would make sense for people to be able to share them, rather than everyone creating them, there's gotta be some common use cases for cataloguing :)
20:27 cait we have a wiki page currently
20:28 cait but it#s not very full so far
20:30 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ced_editor_macros
20:32 corilynn it's a desperately needed feature here, and because I use dynamic urls everyday the macros are gone
20:32 corilynn I'm going to have to hack something in. I was just talking to my manager about that
20:33 kidclamp corilynn: that is top of my dev queue, but not ready for sign off, need to do the actual work
20:33 corilynn I'll push it through the proper process, but I need this fixed by the end of next week
20:33 corilynn kidclamp, can you send me whatever you did so far?
20:34 corilynn or is it just the tables?
20:34 kidclamp Just the tables, the next step is adding and api route
20:34 kidclamp After that it should be trivial to use api rather than the current save call
20:35 corilynn do we have a good sample for the api?
20:43 corilynn kidclamp?
20:43 wahanui i think kidclamp is reply i guess kidclamp is the first RM not to be bribed
20:43 corilynn wahanui always confuses the crap out of me
20:43 wahanui corilynn: sorry...
20:43 kidclamp heh, no one tried hard enough to bribe me
20:43 corilynn i guess not
20:43 kidclamp tcohen would be able to give the best example
20:44 corilynn tcohen?
20:44 wahanui somebody said tcohen was the man you want to thank
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20:44 kidclamp but I don't know which it is right now, and I think he is tending to sick tots today
20:44 corilynn :(
20:44 corilynn well, I got a bit before I need to hack away...
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20:53 kidclamp technically, it hsould be possible to copy the storage somehow
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20:58 wizzyrea hi hayley and aleisha
20:58 aleisha hi wizzyrea :)
20:58 hayley hi @wizzyrea!
20:58 wizzyrea how doin :)
20:59 hayley doing good, very busy in the team atm but the weather is nice so that's a plus!
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21:27 corilynn kidclamp, you mean the existing ones that are in the browser cache?
21:40 kidclamp Yeah, but harder than I hope
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23:13 caroline_catlady good night everyone!

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