IRC log for #koha, 2019-09-27

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05:45 marcelr hi #koha
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06:34 reiveune hello
06:34 wahanui niihau, reiveune
06:52 nlegrand Hey #koha
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06:56 alex_a Bonjour
06:59 nlegrand Salut alex_a, ça biche ?
07:00 alex_a Hello nlegrand !
07:00 alex_a Ça biche ?
07:01 nlegrand pas mal !
07:03 * alex_a searches the meaning of "ça biche"
07:03 nlegrand
07:03 nlegrand
07:03 alex_a Woké!
07:04 alex_a nlegrand, yes, ça biche :)
07:04 nlegrand ^^
07:06 ashimema Mornin'
07:06 ashimema wow, someone was busy on QA last night :)
07:09 ashimema pop quiz, what format of screens are librarians using these days in their respective libraries.. have they joined the widescreen world yet or are most still on 4:3?
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07:15 * magnuse waves
07:15 * magnuse would guess lots of librarians do not have fancy screens...
07:16 ashimema :)
07:16 nlegrand ashimema: I'd say widescreen in France. It's been a while since 4:3 was easisy available on market.
07:17 nlegrand hey magnuse
07:17 ashimema context is that I've generally targeted 4:3 though to be honest not thought a great deal about it.. but a few libaries here mentioned in passing that it would be nice to target 16:10 now as that seems to be the prominent screen on the market
07:17 magnuse bonjour nlegrand! see you soon?
07:17 ashimema yeah.. that's my thinking too.. I just wondered how many libraries were still using ancient kit ;)
07:17 ashimema interesting thoughts anyways..
07:18 ashimema my cash management screen certainly looks best on a widescreen.. side by side functions
07:18 nlegrand magnuse: on monday it seems :)
07:18 ashimema right.. school run O'Clock..
07:18 ashimema bbiab
07:18 ashimema woopie.. see you both soon too :)
07:18 ashimema (assuming you mean hackfest)
07:18 nlegrand ashimema: ^^ yep!
07:19 magnuse oh yes!
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07:20 magnuse awesome!
07:20 magnuse kia ora cait
07:20 magnuse feels like ages since last time i was in marseille
07:20 magnuse did i miss one?
07:20 cait good morning
07:31 ashimema Didn't it switch time of year to not be too close to kohacon this year magnuse?
07:31 ashimema I've missed a couple, it'll be awesome to attend again
07:31 cait it might add to the feeling that it has been 1.5 years :)
07:33 nlegrand Hallo cait!
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08:26 magnuse yeah, 1,5 years since last hackfest in Marseille. But I think my last one was the one with jransom in 2016?
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09:06 marcelr ashimema: hi, i added a comment on 23624; if it was not qaed yet, i would have hesitated to pass qa
09:06 marcelr looking at 23626 right now
09:07 ashimema bug 23624
09:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23624 normal, P5 - low, ---, paul, Passed QA , Count rows in report without (potentially) consuming all memory
09:07 * ashimema reads comment
09:08 ashimema I think we decided on a different approach entirely during the dev meeting for 23624
09:08 ashimema i.e. a new bug that adds a preference to just entirely disable charts
09:09 ashimema having charts that mysteriously only account for some of the dataset seems a fairly silly excersize
09:13 marcelr ok; adding results of the dev meeting on the report and changing status might have been handy ?
09:14 ashimema sorry, It was late and I had a migraine coming on.. then totally forgot yesterday
09:14 marcelr aarg
09:15 marcelr i failed qa on 626 now
09:15 marcelr we should limit the query and not apply limit on the results
09:16 ashimema ack.. I just got the bugs the wrong way around..
09:16 ashimema the 'count' one we liked
09:16 ashimema the 'graphs' one we didn't
09:17 ashimema so.. your comment on 624 is helpful :)
09:17 ashimema it's 626 we wanted to take an entirely different approach
09:17 ashimema personally.. the physicist in me hates the idea of showing graphs that don't take account of the whole dataset.. it just ends up misleading
09:19 marcelr clear; in any case the status is correct now ;)
09:20 ashimema perfect
09:20 ashimema thanks
09:24 ashimema should there not be an 'AS' before the $derived_name too..
09:37 marcelr ashimema: the AS is optional but would be helpful indeed
09:37 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23321: (RM follow-up) Accounts vs. Accounting <[…]783d6615a6f20041f>
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10:31 magnuse oh get a grip D8
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11:08 ashimema D8 has a weird encoding issue.. I've been meaning to get to the bottom of it for ages
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11:28 oleonard Hi #koha
11:28 magnuse hi oleonard
11:28 wahanui hi oleopard
11:29 magnuse oh leopard where art thou
11:30 oleonard I'm, uh... right here?
11:37 oleonard Oh I didn't see that Bug 23566 got a signoff. Cool, that was a fun one.
11:38 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23566 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Continue on device - with QR codes
11:52 magnuse oleonard: ah yes, there you are
11:54 magnuse In the intranet we could have a page for printing the cover of a book, with a qr code that points to the opac record of that book
11:55 oleonard Printing the cover of a book?
11:55 oleonard Oh I see, like for displays?
11:56 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23272: (RM followup) Fix edit action <[…]7cb0b69cd7056b020>
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12:06 magnuse oleonard: yes
12:06 * magnuse gotta run
12:07 magnuse see some of you on sunday or monday, in marseille!
12:07 * oleonard doesn't know how you'd get a print-resolution version of a book cover
12:07 magnuse yeah, that is probably a problem
12:07 magnuse could work with local covers, perhaps
12:08 magnuse it's not my idea, btw, i have seen it done somewhere
12:16 ashimema oleonard about still?
12:16 oleonard Yup
12:16 * oleonard isn't going anywhere... nowhere at all... will be here... in Ohio...
12:17 ashimema bug 23602.. I've added a followup on top of your followup
12:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23602 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Signed Off , Library limitations should display in the item types table
12:17 ashimema would be interested to see if you think I'm being a bit OTT with it or if you can spot any issues I've not
12:17 ashimema if not I reckon we can PQA it :)
12:17 oleonard I'll take a look
12:18 ashimema hugs
12:18 * oleonard is procrastinating via sign-offs
12:18 ashimema best kind of procrastintion ever ;)
12:21 cait lookis like quite some bugzilla activity today :)
12:21 * ashimema is about to hit his queue
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12:44 oleonard ashimema++
12:44 oleonard Good follow-up on 23602
12:44 ashimema coolios.. I wasn't being overly perfectionist then :)
12:45 oleonard Nope. I just don't usually test with a maximized browser window so I don't think I saw the issue until I looked for it
12:46 oleonard Okay, better stop procrastinating.
12:46 * oleonard shuffles off to see to non-Koha obligations
12:46 ashimema it made me also notice that we still use 'branch' instead of 'library' on the authorized vales page for the same
12:46 * ashimema makes note to note that bug
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13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23683: Course reserves public notes on specific items should allow for HTML <[…]75d6a3671ca72a668>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23651: Add address of restricted page to syspref description <[…]96c15f7facdaa730d>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23625: Make new 'required' attributes match the currently used syntax in other... <[…]4bd3f85f7491dc858>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23627: Reduce Koha::Biblio->get_coins noise if no 245 <[…]8367483c573c5036e>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23625: ArticleRequestsMandatoryFields* only affects field labels, does not make... <[…]6243672430faa6e8f>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23607: Make /patrons/:patron_id/account staff only <[…]e304f666606f7f751>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22602: Fix OverDrive circulation when coming from another site <[…]4ae1fac180b10c3d0>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23101: Hide action buttons on contracts if user lacks permission <[…]3d649d9ef4d083880>
13:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 18710: Wrong subfield modified in batch item modification <[…]e9548196430c57fb0>
13:10 caroline_crazycatlady Good morning!
13:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23602: (follow-up) Improve tooltip formatting <[…]4b20bf2b91ea8a201>
13:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23631: fr-CA translation of NEW_SUGGESTION notice <[…]ad3dd769fe2eabfa2>
13:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23602: (follow-up) Correct terminology, add tooltip <[…]5931bfe7a7f8a302b>
13:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23602: Display branch limitations in itemtype table <[…]1021f090b6aaada23>
13:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23213: Enable minimum payment threshold check in OPAC <[…]2d67d2711fd1c20a8>
13:11 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23214: Modify to enable payment of guarantees fines <[…]f7dc15101da9047d4>
13:22 * oleonard digs caroline_crazycatlady out of the kohagit news and wishes her good morning
13:23 caroline_crazycatlady hi oleonard! ashimema's been busy
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13:28 tcohen hi all
13:30 caroline_crazycatlady hi tcohen!
13:30 tcohen caroline_crazycatlady: I've got a request for you
13:30 caroline_crazycatlady ooh, for me?
13:31 tcohen
13:31 tcohen what do you think of those attribute names for biblios
13:31 tcohen they look ok-ish
13:31 tcohen but wanted to double check
13:32 caroline_crazycatlady is there a 245$b in your record?
13:32 caroline_crazycatlady there is a colon after the title, but no subtitle
13:33 tcohen the values on the right are not important, they are just random data I think
13:33 caroline_crazycatlady ah ok!
13:33 tcohen what I want is an opinion on the field names, those on the left
13:33 caroline_crazycatlady yeah, seems good to me!
13:34 caroline_crazycatlady most of them are the same as the db fields so we're used to them
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13:34 caroline_crazycatlady Is there a reason for biblio_id vs biblionumber?
13:35 tcohen that's a decision we made for the API
13:35 caroline_crazycatlady ok +1
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13:35 tcohen this is actually biblio + biblioitems
13:35 tcohen transformed a bit
13:36 tcohen https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ment.cgi?id=93174
13:36 tcohen the mapping is at the bottom
13:36 tcohen I even removed some fields
13:36 caroline_crazycatlady only info from the db can be accessed?
13:37 caroline_crazycatlady I know I get a lot of requests for the target audience (521$a) esp. for children's collections... I guess we would be able to query the MARC too?
13:38 tcohen the API is for retrieving records in various ways
13:38 tcohen full MARC (usmarc, MARCXML, Marc-in-JSON)
13:39 tcohen or that representation
13:40 ashimema oleonard dissapeared?
13:40 ashimema @later tell oleonard where does gr__tooltip come from in the authorized_values admin pages?
13:40 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
13:40 ashimema it's different from the bootstrap tooltip elsewhere
13:41 oleonard Oh no I've been distracted from my non-Koha obligations
13:41 ashimema oops.. sorry
13:42 oleonard Where do you see gr__tooltip?
13:42 oleonard ashimema: Are you getting an error when editing authorized values? Can't call method "as_list" on an undefined value at /kohadevbox/koha/admin/ line 57
13:42 ashimema if you head to manage an authorized value
13:42 ashimema haha..
13:43 ashimema pull master.. I fixed that about 20 mins ago ;)
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13:43 ashimema blame tcohen ;)
13:43 * oleonard blames tcohen
13:44 tcohen :-P
13:44 tcohen this is actually technical debt
13:44 ashimema gr__tooltip is in the source of the page
13:45 tcohen we should be really either passing the resultset to the templates, or fetching it using hte accessors on the templates
13:45 ashimema it's the hidden tooltip markup for the branch limitations
13:45 ashimema but it's differently styled to the tooltip we introduced in the same field on the itemtypes table
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13:46 ashimema I thought I'd make them match but I can't find where this is coming from in the first place now
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14:06 oleonard ashimema: Are you saying that the tooltip on the authorized values page looks different than the one on the itemtypes page?
14:07 ashimema it does for me
14:08 ashimema placement is different, rounded corners and there's no little triangle pointing to where it came from
14:08 ashimema does that make sense?
14:10 oleonard[…]?p=15695933982577
14:11 caroline_crazycatlady cait, were you able to test the pasting of images in the news?
14:12 ashimema
14:12 ashimema for AV's
14:12 ashimema vs
14:12 ashimema
14:13 ashimema for itemtypes
14:13 ashimema the differences are subtle
14:13 ashimema but there
14:13 oleonard Very weird
14:13 oleonard I don't see that.
14:13 ashimema is your screenshot with my patch?
14:15 oleonard Yes
14:15 ashimema the patch on: bug 23689
14:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23689 minor, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Terminology: Branches limitations should be libraries limitations - Authorised Values
14:16 oleonard Yes
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14:16 ashimema did you see the issue before the patch?
14:17 ashimema my patch adds the newline stuff but it also adds the library_limitation class and .tooltip js
14:17 ashimema which was missing before..
14:17 ashimema but we still had a tooltip which I've not managed to work out where the original was coming from..
14:17 ashimema and.. if I inspect the page the original tooltip markup is still there
14:18 oleonard Could it be getting added by a browser extension?
14:19 ashimema
14:19 ashimema oh.. perhaps
14:19 ashimema I'll try in incognito
14:20 ashimema aha..
14:20 ashimema you're totally right..
14:20 ashimema the markup was getting added by a browser extention
14:21 ashimema still feels odd that the tooltip worked before anyways.. i have no idea where it's coming from
14:23 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #884: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/884/
14:32 cait caroline_crazycatlady: sorry caroline, we got a big event here yesterday and things have been generally too crazy
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14:32 caroline_crazycatlady cait: no problem!
14:32 caroline_crazycatlady I figured out the picture frame thing and made a procedure for my client... waiting for feedback
14:33 caroline_crazycatlady Haven't translated it yet but[…]ans-une-nouvelle/
14:34 * oleonard approves of the image choice
14:35 caroline_crazycatlady oleonard++ XD
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14:43 * tuxayo approves the text
14:44 caroline_crazycatlady tuxayo haha! :D
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14:57 reiveune bye
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15:05 tuxayo @PTFS-E : it seems that the sandboxes have an issue:
15:05 tuxayo When I click on the link for the opac or the staff interface, the new page has a correct URL but still displays the sandbox list
15:05 huginn tuxayo: downloading the Perl source
15:06 tuxayo
15:06 tuxayo
15:06 tuxayo weird
15:10 tuxayo cc ashimema
15:11 ashimema grr
15:11 ashimema I've seen this before
15:14 tuxayo ^^"
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16:28 tuxayo !start
16:28 AnnaBoten The hunt starts now!
16:37 AnnaBoten \_o< quack!
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17:07 oleonard Hello again
17:07 tcohen hi oleonard!
17:07 wahanui hi oleopard
17:07 cait hello
17:07 tcohen hi cait
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19:57 davidnind[m] I so love Fred's narratives, and the adventures of the Avenging Chicken ([…]spberry-pi-4.pdf)
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20:00 caroline_crazycatlady catpicture++
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22:55 caroline_crazycatlady have a good weekend all!
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