IRC log for #koha, 2019-09-24

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01:25 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
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06:27 reiveune hello
06:32 magnuse \o/
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06:32 fridolin hi
06:33 magnuse bonjour gandalf!
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06:51 alex_a Bonjour
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07:00 fridolin magnuse: or Gimli XD
07:00 * fridolin cooking new release
07:00 fridolin 19.05.04
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07:23 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23526: (RM follow-up) Fix failing test <[…]0c46d03dbfc6dad63>
07:24 liliputech_asu hi koha :)
07:24 ashimema morning
07:28 ashimema fridolin, tests for bug 23517 are failing on master too at the minute.. just looking into it now
07:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23517 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Add /holds/{hold_id}/priority route (PUT)
07:28 ashimema but.. i wouldn't hold up release waiting on that one
07:29 fridolin ashimema: Ok i wont backport it for 19.05.04
07:29 fridolin its an ehancement but I always try for API routes
07:42 koha-jenkins Project Koha_19.05_U18 build #46: UNSTABLE in 30 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_19.05_U18/46/
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07:46 fridolin matts: yo you need to see Bug 23526
07:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23526 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to stable , Shibboleth login url with query has double encoded '?' %3F
07:46 fridolin the UT fails  ^
07:47 fridolin ashimema: cc ^ master fails on this one
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07:53 ashimema not any more it doesn't ;)
07:55 matts :)
07:58 fridolin Hot
08:00 liliputech_asu \o/
08:00 * liliputech_asu claps hands :)
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08:39 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
08:39 wahanui Congratulations!
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09:04 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
09:04 wahanui Congratulations!
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11:03 magnuse fridolin++
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11:31 oleonard Hi all
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11:57 oleonard How old should a "Pushed to master" bug get before it's marked 'fixed?'
11:58 kidclamp Usually once the rmaint says they won't backport
11:58 kidclamp Or if another release happens
11:58 ashimema on release
11:58 ashimema whether that be feature or maint release
11:58 ashimema so..
11:58 ashimema 'Pushed to master'.. stays as this until major release if the rmaints decide not to backport..
11:59 ashimema if they do, it will become 'Pushed to X' and then on release 'RESOLVED FIXED'
11:59 oleonard Like, if a bug hasn't been touched since last December... Some cleanup needed?
11:59 ashimema at least.. that's how it 'should' work in my opinion.. too much is still manual
11:59 ashimema what bug?
11:59 ashimema it should be in a release as we've had a May release since then
12:00 oleonard Bug 21838 is the particular one I'm looking at now
12:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21838 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to master , Wrong alignment of instructors in course reserves
12:00 ashimema cait and rangi usually do the cleanup after release.. issue is it spams the heck out of everyone subscribed to the bug unless we temporarily disable email notifications on the bz server
12:01 ashimema 18.11 is in the wild.. so it should be RESOLVED FIXED at this point
12:06 cait we missed it this release :(
12:06 cait still on my list
12:06 cait well..t his... last release
12:07 cait we mostly change to RESOLVED FIXED to CLOSED FIXED these days
12:07 cait because RMaints do a lot of RESOLVED FIXED
12:08 cait clrh: menu looks excellent
12:09 ashimema menu does look good.. though I'm slumming it a bit more this year and going packed lunch to save a little
12:11 clrh thank you cait ;)
12:12 clrh when you do the menu, you can pick whatever you like ^^ so I agree with me :)
12:12 cait a bit sad about lebanese on friday,b ecase we have to leave aorund 1
12:12 cait might not work out then
12:12 clrh oh cait ok
12:12 clrh I won't be at Marseille on friday too
12:13 cait at least we got a lebanese restaurant in konstanz now too :)
12:13 clrh you can eat lebanese on evening if you want cait the others days ^^
12:18 cait true :)
12:19 clrh Happy to see you next week \o/
12:19 magnuse \o/
12:21 magnuse lovely menu, clrh
12:25 clrh :)
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12:57 caroline_catlady good morning all!
12:57 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady
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13:22 magnuse hiya caroline_catlady
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14:09 wizzyrea hi
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14:26 msexton2045 I am getting this error message.  But when I search for this student I get this error The following fields are wrong. Please fix them.  Username/password already exists. Cardnumber already in use.
14:32 cait it's what it says :)
14:32 cait you probably have a patron that already has the same cardnumber or username
14:32 cait so Koha won't save the changed/new patron
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14:42 msexton2045 I did a search on the username and card number and they do not show up
14:43 cait sorry, can't help right now :( maybe try a check with sql
14:44 cait also: username and cardnumber can't double
14:44 cait so you need to look for the username as cardnumber and the other way round too
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14:46 caroline_catlady msexton2045: if you don't have access to your database directly, you can enter this in the reports module : SELECT cardnumber, userid, firstname, surname FROM borrowers where cardnumber = 123456 OR userid = 123456
14:46 caroline_catlady You'll want to change the 123456 for the number causing you problems
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15:13 bdonnahue1 hey all... what distro/version are you running koha on?
15:13 bdonnahue1 im on ubuntu 18 and I think there might be a bug
15:14 reiveune bye
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15:16 caroline_catlady I'm on Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
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15:40 wizzyrea bdonnahue1, U18 is probably a fine version?
15:41 wizzyrea it wouldn't be surprising if there's a bug though
15:41 wizzyrea you'd have to describe what you are seeing before we could tell you if it's a bug tho :D
15:41 bdonnahue1 wizzyrea, im having an issue where koha cannot query the zebra server. even if I enable anonymous auth and give it read write
15:41 bdonnahue1 it always complains and the logs show a 1011 error code
15:41 wizzyrea how is your disk space on the server?
15:42 bdonnahue1 plenty
15:42 bdonnahue1 7 gb free
15:42 bdonnahue1 it seems like koha is always trying to use the kohauser user account, but i do not know what password it is trying to use
15:42 wizzyrea the password for that is in the koha-conf.xml file
15:42 wizzyrea in /etc/koha/sites/<instance name>/
15:42 bdonnahue1 the yaz-client can login using the username/password combo from the koha-conf.xml and zebra.passwd file
15:43 bdonnahue1 wizzyrea, yes i can login using those creds with the yaz-client
15:43 bdonnahue1 koha borks
15:43 wizzyrea hmm.
15:43 wizzyrea well as far as I know there isn't a problem with that generally in ubuntu 18
15:43 wizzyrea so seems like it must be your system specific (sorry!)
15:44 bdonnahue1 i would love to setup an ansible playbook / docker container
15:44 wizzyrea oh, we have that
15:44 bdonnahue1 any chance you have an install script i can look at and productionalize
15:44 bdonnahue1 i am not sure how to troubleshoot further
15:44 bdonnahue1 as far as i know my configs are ok
15:44 wizzyrea[…]ha-testing-docker
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15:46 bdonnahue1 wizzyrea, thanks! will give it a look
15:46 wizzyrea did you install it in the kind of normal way?
15:47 wizzyrea you didn't try to do anything special or out of the ordinary
15:47 wizzyrea ?
15:47 wizzyrea bc honestly if you're following the instructions to the letter, it Just Works.
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15:50 bdonnahue1 wizzyrea, i believe i followed the instructions here:[…]u-1804-lts.html#!
15:51 bdonnahue1 following whose instructions, koha comes online, it is the search that doesnt work
15:51 bdonnahue1 and the error is a silent one which is not visible unless i enable verbose logging for zebra
15:51 bdonnahue1 i am trying to understand how koha connects to zebra
15:52 bdonnahue1 not sure how to debug any further... zebra is complianing bad creds, cant find what koha is using
15:52 wizzyrea oh
15:52 wizzyrea don't look at any instructions besides the community ones.
15:52 wizzyrea those are not they.
15:53 wizzyrea https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ki/Koha_on_Debian
15:53 wizzyrea there are also ones for ubuntu
15:53 wizzyrea somewhere
15:53 wizzyrea but from that same wiki.
15:53 wizzyrea that is really the best and only place to get instructions.
15:54 wizzyrea it's the only one the community maintains.
15:54 bdonnahue1 ahh i dindt know that
15:54 bdonnahue1 it seems like debian is the distro of choice
15:54 bdonnahue1 i think i might just use that rather than ubuntu
15:57 davidnind[m] Either Debain or Ubuntu (LTS versions) should be fine - the package install method should work without any problems for both
15:57 mtj bdonnahue1: the next step in debugging, would be to create a new koha instance and test that
15:58 bdonnahue1 mtj, I have the whole thing setup as a script so I have "basically" done that
15:58 mtj should work as expectecd, then use diff to spot the problem
15:59 bdonnahue1 i am going to compare my script with the instructions on the wiki
15:59 bdonnahue1 will go step by step to make sure im not missing something
15:59 mtj bdonnahue1:  you probably have a bug in your script
15:59 bdonnahue1 i notice there is NO mention of zebra configs
16:00 bdonnahue1 so the koha-conf.xml username/password should match the zebra.passwd file out of the box?
16:00 mtj you shouldnt have to touch anything zebra related
16:01 bdonnahue1 as a sanity check, can anyone confirm that their two config files match re. zebra
16:01 bdonnahue1 i am wondering if koha hardcoded a credential
16:01 mtj "so the koha-conf.xml username/password should match the zebra.passwd file out of the box?"
16:01 mtj no ^
16:02 mtj that user/passwd is for mysql
16:03 bdonnahue1 what about the section about <serverinfo id="biblioserver">
16:03 davidnind[m] what mtj said, it should 'just work' if you use the package install method + the koha commands https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]kages#koha-create
16:04 mtj bdonnahue1: ah, yes... those u/p's are for zebra and should match
16:04 bdonnahue1 mtj, ok good (thats what I was hoping)
16:05 bdonnahue1 mine match, but when i try to search zebra logs show bad username/password
16:06 bdonnahue1 while those creds matched in the xml file, the xml file did not match the zebra.passwd file out of the box iirc
16:06 bdonnahue1 i changed that but it still doesnt work
16:06 bdonnahue1 i will try a clean install though as another sanity check
16:06 mtj manually create an new koha instance, and test it
16:07 bdonnahue1 if i manually create a new instance i will have the sampe problem wont i? arnt the zebra config files instance aignostic?
16:08 mtj ..if you havent modified any zebra files under /etc/koha, it should work
16:09 mtj the files under /etc/koha/zebradb are shared btw instances
16:09 bdonnahue1 ok thats what i thought.
16:09 bdonnahue1 mtj thanks
16:09 bdonnahue1 going to wipe the vm and start fresh after reviewing the official wiki page
16:14 davidnind[m] if you find anything that isn't clear or doesn't work could you post on the talk page? I've been working the instructions over the last few weeks, so any first impressions/things that don't make sense would be welcome. (No updates made yet to wiki pages)
16:16 bdonnahue1 davidnind[m], sure. what's the talk page?
16:18 davidnind[m] every page on the wiki as a 'discussion' tab, for example: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lk:Koha_on_Debian
16:31 caroline_catlady davidnind[m]: I think you need a wiki account to access the talk page
16:35 davidnind[m] you do, any new registrations go through an approval process to try and stop spam registrations (I'm one of the approvers)
16:35 davidnind[m] hi caroline_catlady!
16:35 caroline_catlady bdonnahue1: I'm glad you found someone more knowledgable on the chat today! :) mtj++ wizzyrea++ davidnind[m]++
16:41 caroline_catlady jenkins has had enough of our nonsense
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16:44 davidnind[m] and is now back for more! :-)
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17:16 cait lukeG: can you please backport bug 23530? it's quite a bad one, confirmed in latest 18.11
17:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23530 major, P5 - low, ---, mtj, Pushed to stable , script accidentally displays 'hidden' items
17:16 cait ... and it applies cleanly, just pushed it on our 18.11.09 branch
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17:36 kidclamp fridolin++
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20:40 caroline_crazycatlady How do I know which version of tiny_mce is used with Koha?
20:42 cait hm does the about page show something maybe?
20:42 caroline_crazycatlady cait are you on windows?
20:42 cait depends
20:42 cait at work yes, at home ubuntu
20:42 caroline_crazycatlady My client is unable to paste pictures in the news tools
20:43 cait i don't think that shoudl work
20:43 caroline_crazycatlady I have no problem on ubuntu
20:43 cait huh
20:43 cait where does it store them?
20:43 caroline_crazycatlady no idea
20:43 cait we always uploaded them and then linked to them using hte picture frame thing
20:43 cait i never even tried that :)
20:44 caroline_crazycatlady ah ok, I'll tell her this method
20:44 caroline_crazycatlady it's the first clinet who complained about not being able to paste
20:44 cait i shall try it :)
20:44 caroline_crazycatlady I was wondering if it was because they were on a new version of windows or something
20:45 cait i need to figure out where the pictures end up
20:46 cait curious now :)
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20:49 * caroline_crazycatlady pastes cat pictures all over the opacs
20:50 cait :)
20:50 cait what does the source look like for that image?
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20:55 caroline_crazycatlady wait, this is an old screen shot, I will repaste it
20:57 caroline_crazycatlady lol found another one in another instance
20:58 caroline_crazycatlady I love those "invisible" cats!
21:00 pastebot "caroline_crazycatlady" at pasted "source uses the url it seems" (2 lines) at
21:00 caroline_crazycatlady So I guess it's the same as what you do, but I use Internet pictures
21:01 caroline_crazycatlady "invisible" cats :
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21:02 cait wondering
21:02 cait are they tring to paste not from the internet?
21:02 caroline_crazycatlady yeah, that's what I'm thinking
21:02 wahanui thinking is so much easier
21:02 cait like not an url or something, but trying to paste a picture from the harddrive
21:02 cait thx wahanui
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21:07 pastebot "caroline_crazycatlady" at pasted "I am able to paste from my computer, but the source is all over the place cray-cray" (1 line) at
21:07 caroline_crazycatlady It pastes the actual image it seems
21:07 cait yep it looks like it!
21:08 cait wonder how this might hit or not hit performanceif you have tons of them?
21:08 cait photos would probably create a bit of data
21:08 caroline_crazycatlady and just for fun, this is the image :)
21:08 caroline_crazycatlady <3 black cats
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21:36 cait :)
21:36 cait good night all
21:38 caroline_crazycatlady bye!
21:42 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
21:42 wahanui Congratulations!
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22:20 caroline_crazycatlady good night all!
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22:36 Luciana hi
22:37 Luciana which are the current and home libraries in koha, thanks
22:39 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:39 wahanui Congratulations!
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