IRC log for #koha, 2019-09-10

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06:16 * magnuse waves
06:19 calire morning
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06:33 reiveune hello
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06:54 alex_a Bonjour
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07:22 andreashm salut
07:22 wahanui hi, andreashm
07:26 cait morning #koha
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07:31 liliputech_asu morning :)
07:37 magnuse a swedish library that upgraded to 19.05.x resports that circ rules involving "all" stopped working after the upgrade. only rules with specific itemtypes and patron categories work. anyone else seen that?
07:40 cait oh ugh
07:40 cait have you checked bugzilla yet?
07:40 cait i thought there was a bug with some fallbacks, but fixed
07:43 magnuse not yet
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07:45 magnuse bug 22247?
07:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22247 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha::IssuingRule->get_effective_issuing_rule has no hard fallback
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08:08 lari [09.09.19 11:27:57] <cait> but i thoguth since we know lari, we shoudl add them - do you agree?
08:08 lari thanks for noticing :)
08:09 lari yes we should add them :-D
08:09 cait lari: maybe keep an eye out for wizzyrea - I won't be around much the rest of the week - travelling
08:10 cait i left her a later, but they are easy to miss
08:10 lari we have a koha seminar in finland too :) but no rush
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08:33 cait lari: annual bsz event, koha user meeting and a technical workshop heh
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08:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22996: DBRev <[…]1fd6d9613cadfa13a>
08:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23004: Unit test <[…]83293efd2c2928c70>
08:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23004: Missing authtype filter in <[…]c9e102f0e26205009>
08:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22996: Add new preference BarcodeSeparators <[…]0feff86a4275658fe>
08:40 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22996: Move barcode separators to a preference <[…]e2fdc1c71797d4abc>
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08:59 vfernandes hi #koha
09:13 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #862: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/862/
09:18 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #346: SUCCESS in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/346/
09:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #378: STILL UNSTABLE in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/378/
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09:30 magnuse cait: and marseille :-)
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10:52 cait magnuse: that was only this week
10:52 cait still some time to marseille
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11:08 magnuse cait: ah!
11:09 ashimema I thought it was quiet today.. then realised I'd just not started my IRC client
11:13 cait i noticed..
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11:22 * oleonard salutes
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11:26 oleonard ashimema around?
11:28 calire hi oleonard
11:28 wahanui hi oleopard
11:28 oleonard Hi calire
11:29 ashimema Hi
11:29 * ashimema was making tea
11:29 oleonard as promised I am back with docker questions
11:30 ashimema fire away
11:30 ashimema though I'm no docker pro.. ;)
11:30 oleonard What to do when I run the "up" command but when I run the bash command it says the container is not running?
11:31 ashimema er.. what bash command?
11:31 oleonard Sorry, "docker exec -it koha_koha_1 bash"
11:32 ashimema wierd..
11:32 ashimema did the 'up' actually work?
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11:33 ashimema and.. do you happen to have the `export RUN_TESTS_AND_EXIT="yes"` line in your bashrc?
11:33 ashimema if you do.. then the `up` will run up then shutdown again
11:33 ashimema you need to not have that line to have a running docker
11:34 oleonard Uh... I guess not... the koha container isn't listed when I do "docker container list"
11:34 oleonard mysql, memcached, and elasticsearch are up
11:34 ashimema that's odd
11:34 ashimema those shouldn't come up without the koha one.
11:38 ashimema interestingly tcohens `ku` alias adds `--force-recreate` to the up command
11:38 ashimema may be worth running that version to get a fresh instance up to connect to
11:40 mgoss I am doing a first time install. When I login from web I get [Tue Sep 10 06:28:13 2019] DBD::mysql::st execute failed: BLOB, TEXT, GEOMETRY or JSON column 'changed_fields' can't have a default value at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/ line 273.
11:40 mgoss Can anyone help woith this'
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13:00 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
13:03 wizzyrea hi :)
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13:29 oleonard every git command in koha-testing-docker is SUPER SLOW...
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13:33 magnuse wizzyrea: did you get the @later from cait?
13:33 magnuse about adding the finish support company?
13:33 * magnuse gotta have some food
13:35 oleonard 14 seconds is too long to wait for "git status" to tell me stuff.
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14:05 wizzyrea I did
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16:01 reiveune bye
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16:37 mjk_ So, are Koha packages available for Rasbian/ARM?
16:42 davidnind a while ago I got Koha working on a Raspberry Pi using packages with Raspbian Lite https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]spberry_Pi_3_B%2B
16:42 davidnind ^^ the instructions need updating, which is on my to do list
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16:53 mjk_ Meh. My connection got interuppted.
16:54 mjk_ Anyhow, is there any reason that the armhf packages in the repo shouldn't "just work"?
16:56 mjk_ Replacing the ancient PC that my SF club is using as its Koha server and replacing it with a RasPi should be a no-brainer in terms of power usage.
17:00 tcohen hi
17:02 mjk_ The other question is: how much ram does Koha really need? Our club has never had more than four or five concurrent users so could we get away with 2 GB of RAM?
17:03 davidnind mjk_: can't remember exactly how or why but the [arch=i386] packages worked
17:03 davidnind with a Raspberry Pi 3 and memcached enabled it seemed reasonably speedy
17:04 mjk_ Granted, the periods of heaviest use are during library committee work sessions when we try to get as many people cataloging as possible.
17:06 davidnind just go a Raspberry Pi 4 with 4GB memory! (standard version has 2GB) Probably won't be able to play with this until next weekend though and test out/update install instructions :-(
17:09 mjk_ Looking forward to it.
17:11 mjk_ In the next few weeks, I plan on getting some database issues that have left a couple books unable to get checked in sorted and getting everything cleaned up so that I have a clean and unbugged dump to work from when I move servers.
17:11 davidnind yeah for clean data!
17:13 mjk_ Our poor club has roughly a 30000 item library. We have maybe 4000 items catalogged.
17:16 davidnind that's a bit of a backlog to work through! And all Sci-Fi?
17:17 mjk_ And fantasy
17:18 davidnind my two favourite fiction reading categories, mostly read sci-fi these days though.
17:19 mjk_ Strangely, when we started the cataloging project, the DVD/Blu-ray collection was our top priority because it circulated so much.
17:19 mjk_ Now circulation is dead in those categories.
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17:21 mjk_ And, somehow I get kicked if I switch to another tab for too long
17:23 davidnind that's media format obsolescence, I guess everyone is using streaming services now
17:27 mjk_ Partly that. I suspect that the composition of the collection also has a lot to do with stuff. Lots of movies and TV from the mid 2000s through the early 2010s back when the club was rolling in cash.
17:28 davidnind I think the web chat client has a rather short time out period (I haven't used it)
17:30 mjk_ Basically, our club's main sources of income are our annual convention and our small press which reprints classic SF that no commercial press will touch.
17:31 mjk_ The bottom has fallen out of the Classic SF reprint market over the last five or so years.
17:33 tcohen @later tell marcelr I got it wrong regarding your BarcodeSeparator syspref
17:33 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
17:34 davidnind that's a real shame, some of the classic stuff is really good
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17:35 caroline_catlady davidnind: did you see the email that needs moderation on the koha-docs list?
17:35 mjk_ Indeed.
17:35 caroline_catlady I'm not sure what to do with it
17:37 caroline_catlady Looks like someone sent it to the docs list but it was probably meant for the regular or dev list
17:39 davidnind caroline_catlady: will repost on main list - should have dealt with over the weekend, but have been lazy!
17:39 caroline_catlady no worries, I could have done it, I just wasnt sure
17:39 caroline_catlady Most of the stuff we have to moderate is pretty obviously spam, but not this one
17:40 caroline_catlady Unless spammers are getting reeeeeaaaalllly good! :)
17:40 davidnind I haven't seen any spam, yet...
17:41 caroline_catlady It's true that there hasn't been any in a while... Maybe biblibre did something
17:43 davidnind hopefully, or maybe the spammers have just given up!
17:43 davidnind BibLibre++
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17:54 davidnind caroline_catlady: bounced message now sorted!
17:54 caroline_catlady davidnind++
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18:16 oleonard GRUMBLE
18:17 oleonard git keeps telling me I can't apply a patch because I'll lose unstaged changes, but there aren't any
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