IRC log for #koha, 2019-09-05

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01:19 mtj hi wizzyrea: are you still about?
01:20 mtj ..i sent you an email, but might have got the address worng
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06:22 * magnuse waves
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06:30 * ashimema is back
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06:50 alex_a Bonjour
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07:03 magnuse welcome back ashimema
07:03 magnuse ooh, marseille!
07:04 andreashm yay!
07:06 * andreashm wonders what happened to the topics that were there previously in the hackfest doc?
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07:46 * ashimema adds 'book flights to Marseille' to his high priority list
07:57 cait really glad to hear that
07:57 cait need to take care of train tickets too next week, when calire is back
07:57 paxed we've got our own koha seminar in Finland at end of next week
08:01 magnuse paxed: cool! how many attendees? and is there a hackfest? :-)
08:05 paxed magnuse: i'd guesstimate maybe 90 people... reps from each library consortium using koha in finland, and some others. no hackfest, sorry. :P
08:06 paxed  (in finnish only)
08:08 ashimema awesome to see paxed :)
08:14 magnuse Very Cool!
08:16 cait paxed: maybe could send that in for the newsletter?
08:16 cait nice to see the international activities and especially finland is getting a huge Koha country it seems :)
08:19 paxed maybe a bit late now, will have to remember it for next year
08:20 ashimema even a report of how it went would be awesome in community newletter.. encourages others to do similar things
08:21 paxed if someone has the tuits to write an english report on it, sure.
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08:22 ashimema I was only tihnking of a 3 scentance summary.. nothing huge
08:23 ashimema "we did 'x' at 'y' and it was great" sort of thing
08:23 paxed ah
08:23 cait yeah, short and sweet is great too :)
08:24 cait ok, meetings.. bbl
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08:29 magnuse soo... when you import auth records the 001 is changed to be the authid from koha?
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08:47 cait magnuse: we have hacked the importer... i don#t remember :P
08:47 cait but it was something it changed that we didn't want tit to...
08:47 cait i think it moves them into a 035
08:48 cait and writes Koha's internal number in 001 - if you use the linker, that woudl be what you want
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08:53 magnuse cait: what do you actually mean by "the linker"?
08:54 magnuse problem is, i have some authorities with an id and some records that use that id, so i would like to keep the external id
08:54 cait the linker script
08:54 cait auth_to_bibs or something like that (we don't use it... but it's probably better if you do)
08:54 * magnuse has not really worked with authorities before
08:54 cait yeah... ew import the records already linked nicely, that's why we changed the importer to keep the number, but it causes other issues
08:55 cait and will onyl work if your records use numeric ids
08:57 magnuse misc/
08:57 magnuse yeah, the ids are numeric at least
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09:17 davidnind cait++
09:17 davidnind oleonard++
09:18 davidnind thanks for responding to the Twitter thing about how to show "You saved $x... by using the library" on receipt slips
09:20 magnuse yeah, awesome!
09:23 cait davidnind: bws++ too for writing it :)
09:24 davidnind bws++ :)
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09:30 cait davidnind: i can only make the first half hour of docs meetin glater today
09:30 cait have to leave for an appointment
09:34 davidnind cait: thinking I might have to defer the meeting to next week, having trouble staying awake (and it's only 9:30pm!)
09:35 cait i totally undertand,
09:35 davidnind do you think th eothers will mind? feel a bit bad about it...
09:35 cait I will be travelling next week, so  might not make it, but you are more important :)
09:35 cait nah, i think it would be ok
09:36 cait the meetings haven't made it into the calendar (looks at ashimema)
09:36 davidnind have been a few very long days at wok over the last two weeks...
09:36 cait so we could fix this and more people might show up
09:42 davidnind not sure that I'm that important, but thanks cait!:-D
09:43 * ashimema feels really bad having just realised he entirely missed the dev meeting yesterday
09:47 davidnind ashimema++
09:47 davidnind things must be busy :)
09:50 * cait whispers vacation brain
09:50 ashimema deffo
09:51 ashimema will be back into the swing of things very soon.. just clearing the massive email backlog and prepping for a demo I have to deliver later today
09:51 cait good luck :)
09:52 davidnind sounds 'fun', hope it goes well!
09:52 ashimema lol.. well at this point I've found that something I pushed to master the day before going away has broken what I'm demoing.. so frantically trying to fix it ;P
09:53 davidnind even more fun!
10:10 magnuse all the fun!
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10:19 cait ashimema: can you take care of the moved meeting for docs?
10:20 ashimema when did it move to?
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10:22 cait 12 september
10:22 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]12_September_2019
10:22 cait from today
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10:49 magnuse davidnind++ for taking on a myriad of tasks
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11:59 oleonard Hi all
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12:07 magnuse hi oleonard
12:07 wahanui hi oleopard
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12:32 oleonard kidclamp around?
12:32 * kidclamp spins
12:34 oleonard kidclamp: Testing Bug 23484, is there an easy way to switch sql mode?
12:34 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23484 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Needs Signoff , Holds to pull ( uses removed default_branch_item_rules table
12:34 kidclamp <strict_sql_modes>0</strict_sql_modes>
12:34 kidclamp in koha-conf.xml
12:35 kidclamp and restart all the things - I think you need to restart mysql as well
12:35 oleonard Oh dang I looked there and missed that
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12:46 * oleonard can't seem to get it to work
12:57 ashimema brain failing today.. any good UX examples of picking a date range in koha anywhere?
12:57 kidclamp restart_all; sudo service mysql restart; restart_all;
12:57 ashimema s/UX//
12:57 kidclamp or try setting it, then rebooting the devbo
13:03 oleonard ashimema: We use two datepicker inputs which are linked so that one must be before the other. I think the canned reports probably have some examples
13:03 ashimema thanks :)
13:04 ashimema cat_issues_top looks promising :)
13:04 * oleonard was just going to suggest
13:04 oleonard :)
13:04 ashimema :)
13:12 thd Is there a meeting now?
13:15 oleonard thd: My Google calendar says "postponed"
13:15 thd Oh, until postponed until when?
13:15 oleonard And there's another entry for the same time next week
13:15 ashimema next week
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13:15 thd Ok.
13:16 caroline_crazycatlady good morning everyone!
13:18 thd Postgres to MySQL conversion for the Wiki is going well except I seem to need to escape and then quote the data columns which the original conversion script left out.
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13:22 thd Good morning caroline_crazycatlady
13:22 magnuse hiya caroline_crazycatlady
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13:33 thd caroline_crazycatlady: Did you find an efficient method to identify what version of Koha some feature was introduced?
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13:33 caroline_crazycatlady no, I just said "it was a newish feature" :)
13:34 thd I gave some suggestions yesterday on IRC after you had asked about how you might be able to find the answer systematically after it would be useful in the future.
13:35 thd s/systematically after/systematically if/
13:37 caroline_crazycatlady yes but it involved programming, which I don't know
13:37 thd Only the most efficient method involved programming.
13:38 caroline_crazycatlady the other one was an index?
13:38 thd The least efficient method involved using the query feature of the Git web interface.
13:38 caroline_crazycatlady it seemed like a lot of manual work
13:38 caroline_crazycatlady ah ok
13:38 caroline_crazycatlady I didn't try that
13:39 magnuse if you know the bug number then rm/rmaint has been putting the version things will be included in in comments on bz for some time now?
13:40 thd So you could try to devise a query to only get results from some particular file with release notes.
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13:43 caroline_crazycatlady It was only because a client was inquiring after something that was written in the manual, but it wasn't the same in her interface, so I said it was a newish feature and that part of the manual probably hadn't been updated yet, she didn't ask more questions, so I moved on :)
13:48 thd I think it may be useful in some instances in some place to note when some feature was introduced as a means of guiding people to new things or old things worth giving attention.
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14:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:40 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:41 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:41 wahanui Congratulations!
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15:14 fridolin ashimema: Bug 23273 was in master branch but status was still passed QA ;)
15:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23273 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to stable , Downloading from doesn't use set filters
15:14 fridolin i have to go see u tomorrow
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15:15 caroline_crazycatlady lol, I thought he said he had to go see ashimema tomorrow
15:18 oleonard I have to go see you tomorrow, so put fresh sheets on the pull-out couch!
15:19 cait oleonard: i would :)
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15:53 ashimema thd, caroline_crazycatlady  regarding versions a feature was introduced.. there is ongoing work to improve that process..
15:53 ashimema we've already improved the recording of it in bugzilla..
15:54 ashimema and the release ntoes of rebuilt rather regularly in a repo which is publically accessible
15:54 ashimema but..
15:54 ashimema we don't yet have a nice chronoligical display of feature additions in Koha..
15:54 ashimema that's something rangi and I were both keen to add at some point
15:55 ashimema our release notes make things somewhat hard as we include stuff in multiple sets of notes in parallel
15:55 ashimema if it's a new feature.. you're best looking at the .00 release notes as they're the most complete in terms of 'everything added'..
15:56 ashimema in theory.. new features and enhancements shouldn't make it into stables.
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15:57 cait caroline_crazycatlady: do you know how to saearch for closed bugs in bugzilla?
15:57 cait the easiest way is: ALL keywords...
15:58 caroline_crazycatlady hum, I'm not sure
15:58 caroline_crazycatlady I can't always find what I'm looking for, so probably not
15:58 cait in the normal search window, then you fnd the pushed/closed ones as well
15:59 * ashimema sometimes uses google site search to good results
15:59 * caroline_crazycatlady feels like a failure as a librarian because she couldn't find closed bugs
16:01 cait I just wanted to share a trick
16:01 cait ... *sends cookies*
16:01 * ashimema didn't know that trick either
16:03 cait ... does someone have a trick to hide columns from datatables for me?
16:03 cait trying to get the one from the wiki to workon course reserves an dfailing
16:03 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]_dataTable_column
16:04 cait maybe i am doing this all wrong...
16:05 cait $("table#course-items-table td:nth-child(11),th:nth-child(11)").hide(); better
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16:35 oleonard cait this also works for me: $("#course-items-table").Data​Table().column(0).visible(0);
16:35 oleonard Where column(0) is the column you want... 11 I guess?
16:36 cait oleonard: thx :)
16:36 wizzyrea can anyone test bug 23537 it's an overdrive one
16:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=23537 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, wizzyrea, Needs Signoff , Overdrive won't show complete results if the Overdrive object doesn't have a primaryCreator
16:36 cait do both work or should i prefer the second?
16:36 wizzyrea and so smol
16:37 cait problem is lack of overdrive credentials :
16:37 cait :(
16:37 oleonard cait: I would prefer my version (if it works for you) because it does it the DataTables way
16:37 cait someone good with Zotero?
16:37 oleonard wizzyrea: I can try to get to it but I'm having devbox issues today :(
16:39 cait 10
16:39 cait :)
16:39 cait counting differently
16:39 cait oleonard++
16:41 cait library says that Zotero shows source of things from their catalog as : Library Catalog (Koha) - trying to find out why
16:42 cait hm[…]abs/Citoid/Zotero it's a Format
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17:06 wizzyrea oh oleonard++
17:15 cait re Zotero question: it seems it shows the translator it used as source, and the one for Koha is named "Library Catalog (Koha)"
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