IRC log for #koha, 2019-07-01

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06:47 alex_a bonjour
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07:12 ashimema @later tell oleonard I'd be interested on your take on bug 23232 and whether we think it's worthwhile/easily achievable.
07:12 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
07:13 fridolin hi
07:13 wahanui what's up, fridolin
07:14 ashimema did the release happen on Friday fridolin?
07:14 * ashimema is still working through emails
07:15 fridolin ashimema: not yet we are waiting on packaging
07:15 ashimema okies
07:15 * fridolin also flushing emails
07:15 ashimema thanks
07:16 ashimema I shall wait before starting on the next round of pushing then :)
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08:29 cait @later tell gmcharlt Equinox Koha demo is down: https://opac-kohademo.equinoxinitiative.org/
08:29 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
08:32 cait @later tell rangi updated catalyst demo version to 19.05 on the website :)
08:32 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
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09:10 ashimema cait..
09:10 ashimema am I imagining it or has rancor not got any tests?
09:10 * ashimema might be looking in the wrong place
09:26 cait hm?
09:26 cait i would not be surprised
09:26 ashimema mm
09:26 ashimema little scary
09:28 cait ok, I will rephrse: I am not sure where to find them either :)
09:31 cait ah no khall :(
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09:52 ashimema @later tell fredericd Any chance you could explain to me what the advantages/disadvantages are now to using the Tamil indexer vs the rebuild_zebra daemon in community? I'm wondering if, for clarity, we should remove script references to tamils in community or better document it at the very least.
09:52 huginn` ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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11:20 oleonard Hi all
11:22 ashimema targets set on https://dashboard.koha-community.org/ chaps.. go knock me off the top spots 😉 !
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11:47 oleonard ashimema: I haven't looked at how the onscreen keyboard is implemented but I don't see why it couldn't/shouldn't be added to the basic editor too
11:48 oleonard (also, I think all the entries in the "keyboard shortcuts" menu should be clickable)
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11:53 oleonard (also, wow that is a lot of keyboard layouts)
12:02 ashimema indeed
12:02 oleonard In fact.... Why isn't the keyboard shortcuts popup a menu? Click the entry you want to trigger or see the keyboard shortcut
12:02 ashimema haha.. take it you've seen the follow-up bug I posted to request we make that list configurable
12:02 ashimema pass
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12:03 ashimema I felt it was a nice enough feature to push as is.. but only because Tomas promised me he'd help chase through a series of enhancements..
12:03 ashimema they just didn't have the time budget in the bank to do it right this second..
12:03 * ashimema is trying to be pragmatic
12:03 * oleonard agrees
12:04 oleonard I'm not actually concerned about the number of keyboard layouts... It would be near impossible for us to choose what should be available, so it's worth waiting for a feature to let the librarian decide.
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12:17 ashimema indeed
12:17 ashimema totally agree
12:18 ashimema Do you think having a go at exposing the keyboard in the standard editor might be something you fancied/had time to pick off the pile oleonard
12:18 oleonard Yes
12:18 ashimema That would be awesome :)
12:19 ashimema I will ensure a fast flow through SO/QA ;)
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13:04 cait hm are we aware of our staff client being totally broken in ie 11?
13:04 cait looking at 18.11 and everything that shoudl be next to each other is on top of each otehr
13:16 kidclamp pic cait?
13:16 kidclamp clear the cache?
13:16 cait kidclamp: of course did
13:16 cait can't share pics here easily
13:16 * kidclamp glances at pitchforks and torches, tries not ot make eye contact with owen
13:16 cait it's ie 11 - too old?
13:16 kidclamp https://snag.gy/
13:17 cait yeah i don't really want to do that :)
13:18 cait it doesn't seem tow ork in IE
13:19 cait ah i see waht happens
13:19 cait i have a screenshot software that gets in between i think
13:20 cait actually working on the next problem now :)
13:20 cait just when you get a chance, maybe try an IE
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13:22 cait i filed bug 23245 for the minor issue in firefox
13:22 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23245 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Floating toolbar on vendors page overlaps with vendor name
13:22 cait it's a bit of a strange one, we only see it in some browser versions so far
13:23 * ashimema wonders if he needs to get out the trusty old windows VM to try it
13:24 wizzyrea hi
13:24 wahanui hi, wizzyrea
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13:55 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
13:55 wahanui Congratulations!
13:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #797: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/797/
14:03 oleonard I felt a cold chill which could only mean a floating toolbar bug had been filed
14:06 oleonard And of course I can't reproduce the problem, that would be too easy :|
14:12 cait oleonard: sorry for that one
14:12 cait i only filed it once i found a pattern somehow... but it#s still meh
14:13 cait only one of us librarians can see the issue in firefox and we have tried every trick in the book to make it go away... today i found it in Chromium...  but it's certainly tricky
14:14 cait hm sorry chrome
14:14 oleonard Do you see it in master?
14:14 cait hm i can't test that right now
14:14 cait 18.11 tbh... you are right, it could make a difference
14:14 cait when did we switch out floating stuff?
14:15 cait ah we can use a demo to test on 19.05 at least
14:15 cait to get closer
14:15 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:15 huginn` cait: Error: Failed to load Wunderground API. Check the logs for more information.
14:15 cait way too hot!
14:16 cait i can see it in 19.05 on the bywater demo
14:17 cait and actually... that's a 18.11...
14:18 cait ah it#s ok in 19.05
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14:23 cait oleonard: maybe it's a wontfix
14:23 cait you can#t test in IE anymore, can you?
14:24 oleonard I can test in IE 11 but not Edge
14:24 cait does IE11 work for you?
14:24 cait we got 11 too
14:25 cait 18.11 looks just broken for me and the coworekr here
14:26 oleonard Haha, master looks super broken in IE 11 :D
14:26 cait oh at least i am not crazy tehre :)
14:26 oleonard I mean everywhere
14:26 cait broken everywhere? :)
14:31 oleonard We're missing a tag which tells IE 11 to treat the staff client like a real web page, not an IE6-compatible website from 2001
14:31 cait aha
14:31 oleonard So the layout lacks any concept of columns
14:31 cait that's... dunno
14:31 cait what do they expect?
14:31 cait the tag i mean
14:31 oleonard <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge">
14:32 cait seriousl?
14:32 cait you have to tell it to treat it like a normal thing... when all the other browsers just do?
14:33 oleonard Internet Explorer was designed for maximum backwards-compatibility with sites designed for really old versions of Internet Explorer.
14:33 cait I just can't....
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14:37 cait oleonard: do we want to fix this?
14:37 oleonard The IE thing or the toolbar thing?
14:37 cait ghe IE thing
14:37 cait i've almost given up on the toolbar thing by now :)
14:38 oleonard I guess we should, even though I don't want to care about IE
14:38 cait yeah hmpf.
14:38 oleonard (I personally should care since it's my Bootstrap patches which are the cause of the problem for IE users)
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14:50 oleonard cait: I haven't tested for myself... Are you saying the toolbar problem is only happening with the old float plugin?
14:51 cait we can't make it happen in 19.05
14:51 cait so i think you are off the hook? :)
14:51 oleonard Excellent
14:51 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
14:51 cait and can be even happier to have invested the time in the new plugin
14:51 * oleonard is on so many hooks
14:52 cait can you leave a comment maybe? reported for a coworker
14:54 oleonard Sure
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15:12 reiveune bye
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15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17492: (RM follow-up) Use more specific method name <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3ba441eb7906f53fa>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: DBRev 19.06.00.010 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9a9bc569919df6125>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17003: (QA follow-up) Fix the number of tests <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]548a1f4e6f469ef77>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17492: (QA follow-up) Correct template variable <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]666de71090d945c66>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: (QA follow-up) Remove DBIC files and reference to DefaultCircRule <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f0a5e1263ff202cef>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17492: (follow-up) Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]34442dbbb670e0ab3>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: (bug 22847 follow-up) Display correctly the values (not the propagated... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]120848d015dc64079>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: Remove '(not set)' <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ac6376f3be3bd4667>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: (bug 22847 follow-up) Display correctly the values (not the propagated... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d129dea3b10ae1894>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: (bug 22679 follow-up) Do not remove all rules along with the issuing rule <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c16653f12e239fb05>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: Use get_effective_rule in GetBranchItemRule <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]351f0b0983b2b482a>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: DBIC schema update <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]38ddf9a1c0c47f253>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: (follow-up) Unset max_holds rule if needed <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ed31fe387d8d36b64>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17003: (follow-up) Update definitions according to voted RFC <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]abbac7ad2bfe93364>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: (follow-up) Make DB update idempotent <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5fa8228802b3c4918>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: Update new occurrences <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]87776fe4b6631d3cd>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17003: Adapt to OpenAPI <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]332870004bb88878c>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 18928: Add missing filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]305ff302cd8553ed0>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17492: Add a warning about age being of-limits and a button to update it <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0dd6ca8f7de468fb0>
15:23 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17003: Add API route to get checkout's renewability <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ea36d2867f488416f>
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15:53 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #798: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/798/
15:56 * ashimema sends Jenkins a beer
16:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #293: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/293/
16:05 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #308: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/308/
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16:53 tcohen can we use ternary operators in TT?
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17:04 oleonard I don't think I've seen it used before, and it's not listed here tcohen http://template-toolkit.org/do[…]tional_Processing
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17:55 tcohen oleonard, it works!
17:55 tcohen found better ways of solving my problem, though
17:55 tcohen bug 23246
17:55 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23246 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Record detail page jumps into the 'images' tab if no holdings
18:20 * cait waves
18:23 wizzyrea hey, when are we going to push the tags for the latest releases?
18:23 wizzyrea ashimema maybe?
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19:00 ashimema Hello, you called?
19:01 ashimema Have you guys announced release yet.. when I asked fridolin this morning he said you were waiting on packages
19:02 cait packages there yet?
19:02 * cait waves
19:02 ashimema The normal routine would be to wait for the OK from Mason and Mirko and then quickly pushing your tarballs up, tag and push to the public repos
19:03 ashimema I have bought I saw the packages done
19:03 ashimema fridolin should have his finger on the trigger for it all as the stable rmaint
19:03 cait not sure Frido will be around this late
19:04 cait maybe we should try and catch him in the morning
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20:53 cait someone around who knows how thte self check-in works?
20:53 cait trying to log in with a user with the check-in permission, but am denied
21:04 wizzyrea do you have the self check permission?
21:04 wizzyrea not just circulation
21:04 wizzyrea but there's one for self check
21:06 wizzyrea under self check modules
21:06 wizzyrea cait ^
21:06 cait yes
21:06 wizzyrea hm and it's still borken?
21:06 cait i forgot the self above, but yep
21:06 cait yep
21:06 cait on master too
21:06 wizzyrea ew!
21:07 cait it might still be me.... seems to work on our 18.11 test install
21:07 cait but can't figure out what it could be
21:07 cait module is activated
21:07 cait sco works
21:07 wizzyrea just not check in
21:07 cait sci keeps me on the login screen
21:07 cait yeah
21:07 wizzyrea odd
21:07 wizzyrea v odd
21:07 cait can you test?
21:07 wizzyrea yep sure
21:08 cait i tired with 'self check' top levle permission and only check-in permission
21:11 wizzyrea Hm it works for me
21:11 rangi did everyone like the matariki theme for the dashboard?
21:12 rangi https://dashboard.koha-community.org/
21:12 rangi cait: thanks for updating the demo
21:12 wizzyrea ohhhh very pretty!
21:12 wizzyrea did francesca do that
21:12 rangi yep
21:12 wizzyrea very nice
21:12 rangi i'll leave it for a few more days
21:13 cait i like it a lot :)
21:13 wizzyrea I saw the fireworks on twitter looks like they were great
21:13 wizzyrea yeah I like the blue
21:13 cait wizzyrea: *sigh*
21:13 cait ok, but that makes it a me thing (just saw you said it works)
21:13 cait i can live with that tonight
21:13 wizzyrea well it's a bit later
21:13 wizzyrea late*
21:13 wizzyrea for yo
21:13 wizzyrea geez.
21:13 wizzyrea you*
21:13 cait it's ok, but i'll stop now
21:25 rangi and now, look at the fancy graph ashimema added
21:26 cait very fany
21:26 cait fancy
21:26 cait ashimema++
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21:26 Shane is koha compatible with Wix website builder?
21:29 cait sorry Guest6476, I don't understand the question
21:29 cait what do you want to do?
21:33 wizzyrea oo fancy
21:33 cait bye all
21:33 Guest6476 I was wondering if the embedded koha search is compatible with the wix website builder?
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