IRC log for #koha, 2019-06-28

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00:50 * Francesca waves at wizzyrea
00:58 alexbuckley hi Francesca :)
00:58 Francesca hi alex!
00:58 Francesca how are you?
00:59 alexbuckley I'm good, got back from a big trip to Europe and Morocco 3 weeks ago which was amazing. How are you?
00:59 Francesca I'm good
00:59 Francesca Just chilling at home
01:00 alexbuckley nice! I love your matariki theme to the dashboard!
01:00 Francesca Thanks :)
01:01 Francesca Just trying to decide if its missing something or not
01:02 kathryn hi francesca I just saw the latest dashboard theme too - nice :)
01:02 Francesca thanks :)
01:03 Francesca i had some spare time
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01:10 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
01:11 mtompset tcohen, you here?
01:11 mtompset bug 21000 has a patch now. :)
01:11 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21000 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , debian/build-git-snapshot script ignores -D
01:12 mtompset @seen drojf
01:12 huginn` mtompset: drojf was last seen in #koha 30 weeks, 2 days, 5 hours, 57 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <drojf> -s
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01:14 tcohen hi mtompset, adding to my friday's todo list
01:17 mtompset Turns out there was a simple fix. :)
01:18 mtompset I was thinking of making it verbose instead of debug, but that would conflict with --version.
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03:21 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
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06:17 fridolin hi
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06:34 reiveune hello
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07:02 alex_a bonjour
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07:23 liliputech_asu bonjour!
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07:34 ashimema oh.. dashboard has a theme
07:34 ashimema cool
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07:34 ashimema Francesca still around?
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07:35 ashimema not likely
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07:36 ashimema any other dashboard lovers here?
07:36 ashimema can any of you see
07:36 ashimema and.. if you can.. what do you think of the graph.. good idea or bad ?
07:37 cait still doesn't work for me :(
07:40 ashimema
07:40 ashimema just for you cait ;)
07:40 cait thx, i need some cheer up
07:40 ashimema it's work in progress.. knocked it up during lunch yesterday
07:41 cait can you hover and see numbers with this oneß
07:41 cait ?
07:41 ashimema yup
07:41 cait cool
07:47 gveranis ashimema nice dashboard
07:50 cait gveranis: you know about, right? :)
07:50 gveranis no, but I can learn
07:51 ashimema lol
07:51 cait i always thought it was well known, but learned at kohacon it's actually not
07:51 ashimema the link I showed is just my development version with some added bits..
07:51 ashimema is the place to be :)
07:52 gveranis ok , I like more the other theme
07:52 * ashimema is working with a db dump from yesterday.. so I'm not that out of date yet.. but will be
07:52 gveranis and bookmark the original one
07:53 ashimema hehe.. that theme only went live last night
07:53 ashimema Francesca
08:02 cait Matariki - missed that :)
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08:14 cait Francesca++
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09:17 paxed the dashboard fonts feel like ... generic fantasy novel title fonts ;)
09:19 cait it's a seasonal theme
09:19 cait i think a bit of fancy is nice for a little while
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09:38 eythian cait: being hot out your way?
09:45 cait yeah very hot, but today it's almost pleasant in comparison to yesterday
09:45 fredericd Hi all. I've lost my access to Bugzilla. Is there anyone who is in charge of BZ Server and could help?
09:45 cait fredericd: just your account or what kind of access?
09:48 fredericd My password doesn't work anymore, and when I try to reset it, I don't receive any email from BZ
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10:13 gveranis I have a weird question.. If I use koha-create --create-db mylibrary and then on webinstaller ( 18.05 and above ) choose unimarc, zebra not worked.. I get an error like that : Record didn't contain match fields in (bib1,Local-number) . But If I use --marcflavor flag on create then it is ok.
10:14 gveranis do anyone know how to change zebra for first occasion to change to use unimarc settings ?
10:15 gveranis I try to use also elasticsearch but there some indexes not work very well ( bugs are already on bugzilla )
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10:17 vfernandes hi #koha
10:20 gveranis if on create we don't use the flag of --marc-flavor then the koha_conf.xml build as marc21 and then if we choose unimarc on installer then koha_conf not recreate.
10:20 gveranis it is a bug ? or matter of better explanation in wiki ?
10:20 gveranis cait what you suggest ?
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10:35 liliputech_asu 4
10:35 liliputech_asu ups, typo...
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10:48 gveranis and also not recreate zebra confs..
10:53 cait fredericd: pm
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11:55 oleonard Hi all
11:56 cait hi oleonard
11:56 wahanui hi oleopard
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12:19 oleonard A Debian stretch kohadevbox defaults to mariadb despite what defaults.yml says?
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12:48 caroline_catlady good morning!
12:51 oleonard Hi caroline_catlady
12:52 caroline_catlady just noticed I'm not crazy anymore :D yay!
12:54 oleonard hash tag goals
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13:20 oleonard Good morning wizzyrea
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13:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22128: Add Rudolf Byker to contributors <[…]86bbeca4200e67d1c>
13:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23220: Prevent form submission before redirect <[…]6d08d6bbecb144552>
13:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23193: Make use Koha::Script <[…]6689b09fd34615aed>
13:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22128: Removed outdated comment <[…]afdc98d9ff6761b8e>
13:35 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 22128: Use DROP USER IF EXISTS instead of GRANT USAGE before DROP USAGE <[…]d16decd87bae228e7>
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13:42 wizzyrea hi
13:42 wizzyrea how is everyone today
13:44 eythian oh, you know.
13:45 oleonard I mean, yeah
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14:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23196: (follow-up) Add comments to highlight structure <[…]a8b7264db901be278>
14:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23196: Reindent tools/ <[…]bb31b9d057c2136fe>
14:05 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 23183: Reindent cataloging.js <[…]5f44687993ebc07e3>
14:09 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #793: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/793/
14:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #290: UNSTABLE in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/290/
14:20 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #305: SUCCESS in 42 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/305/
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14:27 ashimema amoyano around?
14:28 amoyano ashimema Hi!
14:29 ashimema so.. I'm working through bug 17178
14:29 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Needs Signoff , Add a popup/keyboard shortcuts for diacritics and symbols in the advanced cataloging editor
14:29 ashimema feels like having it hidden behind a keyboard shortcut only is a mistake..
14:29 ashimema I can see it getting a much wider adoption if we also have a toggle button..
14:30 ashimema you got a gmail account anywhere?
14:30 ashimema I'm thinking take inspiration from their 'Input tools' toggle button
14:31 amoyano you can email me to
14:31 ashimema also.. we need at least the 'Ctrl+Shift+K' followup before I'm happy to push it ;)
14:31 amoyano Can't we make kayboard shortcuts menu clickable?
14:32 amoyano I'm currently updating patches
14:33 ashimema indeed.. I'd love to see an 'Input tools' button in the main editor toolbar as aposed to it just being hidden behind a keyboard shortcut
14:33 ashimema i.e. making it more discoverable
14:34 ashimema I suppose at least in the advanced editor there is a list of shortcuts available so you can discover it if you want to
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14:37 ashimema thanks
14:37 amoyano keyboard shortcut updated
14:38 ashimema cheers
14:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #794: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/794/
14:39 ashimema db update isn't idempotent (for next time.. I'll sort it this time)
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14:46 caroline_catlady librarians around?
14:46 cait no
14:46 caroline_catlady hehe!
14:47 * cait searches for a false beard
14:47 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:47 wahanui Congratulations!
14:47 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #291: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/291/
14:48 caroline_catlady When importing records, in what case would we use a record matching rule but add the duplicate record anyway?
14:48 amoyano ashimema I just updated again the patches of bug 17178.. I forgot to update the shortcut atomic update!
14:48 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17178 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, agustinmoyano, Needs Signoff , Add a popup/keyboard shortcuts for diacritics and symbols in the advanced cataloging editor
14:48 caroline_catlady Just trying to find a "real life" use case for this
14:49 ashimema lol
14:49 oleonard Stop asking Koha to provide you with only real life use cases
14:49 caroline_catlady XD
14:50 ashimema haha.
14:51 cait caroline_catlady: hm which do you mean? of the settings?
14:54 caroline_catlady When you go in tools > Stage MARC records for import... Look for existing records in catalog? Use a record matching rule (e.g. ISBN), then Action is matching record found : Add incoming record
14:54 caroline_catlady *Action if
14:55 caroline_catlady So this would check for matching records, but import the new record even if a duplicate is already in the catalog
14:56 caroline_catlady I'm just wondering IRL when would we check for duplicates, but then just ignore that result
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14:57 kidclamp does it list the matches on the result page? Maybe wanting to import the dupes and check by hand
14:58 caroline_catlady yes it does. I've used it once like that, but I wasn't sure that was something librarians would do in a library
14:59 cait i can't come up with another idea
14:59 cait but it would alllow you to choose the "better" or "prettier"
15:00 cait culd make sense
15:00 cait or even to a partial merge movign some data from one to the other
15:00 caroline_catlady I've used it when we merged 5 libraries into one. I didn't want to choose which library had the best records, so I did it this way, but it's a pretty extreme case
15:02 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #306: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/306/
15:02 oleonard I've submitted attempt number XXVI of Bug 20959 if anyone is feeling testy
15:02 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20959 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Style checkin form more like the checkout form, with collapsed settings panel
15:03 caroline_catlady Cool! Will transfer this to our interns for our sign off session this afternoon
15:05 cait caroline_catlady: maybe something for the manual :)
15:05 cait got to go... while all servers are alive :P
15:05 cait bye all and have a nice weekend
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15:05 oleonard Thank you caroline_catlady
15:06 reiveune bye
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15:34 caroline_catlady ok another weirdo... Action if NO match is found: Ignore incoming record **(Its items may still be processed)**??
15:35 caroline_catlady Where will the items go if there is no matching record?
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15:39 oleonard caroline_catlady: You might ignore the matching record but replace or add items to the existing record
15:39 oleonard Oh sorry I misread
15:39 oleonard You said NO match is found
15:39 oleonard (loudly, even!)
15:40 oleonard That one looks like it is mislabeled.
15:42 caroline_catlady That's what I always thought, but I was just wondering if someone had a use case for this
15:42 cait fredericd: still around?
15:42 oleonard caroline_catlady: I think it's a matter of it being logically impossible for anything to happen
15:42 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17178: DBRev <[…]08cc097654b27fcb4>
15:42 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17178: (RM follow-up) Use latest version of library <[…]717aa4a96e6d89398>
15:42 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17178: (QA follow-up) Make DB update idempotent <[…]24b5bab38b20b244e>
15:42 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17178: Add shortcut to keyboard_shortcut table <[…]6888744939d23187b>
15:42 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 17178: Add virtual keyboard to advanced cataloguing editor <[…]2e891c1ef5508a741>
15:44 caroline_catlady thx oleonard for confirming my not craziness :)
15:44 caroline_catlady I will file a bug for this
15:45 cait caroline_catlady: you are not crazy
15:49 oleonard Is caroline_crazycatlady crazy?
15:50 cait maybe
15:50 cait and if... those who admit so readily are probably not
15:51 cait or not much
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16:11 Joubu gmcharlt: Hi Galen, displays something... not expected :)
16:11 cait interesting
16:12 gmcharlt we're now a book review community ;)
16:12 gmcharlt Joubu: seriously, thanks, I'll fix the config
16:12 * cait waves
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16:17 gmcharlt Joubu: fixed
16:17 * gmcharlt waves back at cait
16:18 cait :)
16:19 oleonard Working on Bug 22999... the last template in the staff client to need a Bootstrap grid!
16:19 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22999 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Switch two-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Circulation
16:20 Joubu thanks gmcharlt!
16:20 cait oleonard: wow!
16:20 cait ping me next week maybe if they don't move? helping finish something would be nice :)
16:21 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #292: SUCCESS in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/292/
16:24 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #307: SUCCESS in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/307/
16:26 oleonard[…]?p=15617391156791
16:28 cait wow
16:34 oleonard brb making myself a sash like this only with one badge for every Bootstrap patch:[…]G66X3EOQR3N6Q.jpg
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16:37 cait wow
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17:08 ashimema Nice work oleonard
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17:54 Joubu Can someone confirm t/db_dependent/Circulation.t is failing on master?
17:54 Joubu and... with weird failures:
17:54 Joubu #          got: '2019-06-23T17:54:00'
17:54 Joubu #     expected: '2019-06-23T17:54:00'
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19:05 kidclamp passing for me @Joubu
19:06 kidclamp oops, slacking in IRC
19:08 Joubu hum, weird
19:08 Joubu I guess it's the timezone..
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19:44 Joubu @later tell mtompsett do you plan to clean the code related to the hidden items? in opac-detail, MARC and ISBD, the code is different to handle the same thing
19:44 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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21:53 caroline_catlady ggod weekend everyone!
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