IRC log for #koha, 2019-06-14

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04:39 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
04:40 mtompset #WeTheNorth :) YAY! Raptors won NBA championships.
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04:40 huginn` mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 day, 13 hours, 55 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Joubu> yes
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04:44 huginn` mtompset: ashimema was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 32 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <ashimema> Looks interesting, bedtime reading.. 😀
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04:45 huginn` mtompset: alex_a was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 43 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <alex_a> bonjour
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04:47 mtompset Greetings, eythian
04:52 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha.
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05:01 fridolin hi
05:01 wahanui bonjour, fridolin
05:01 fridolin ah merci wahanui
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05:38 ashimema Will be around soon mtompset , just taking pooch for a walk first
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06:37 reiveune hello
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06:53 liliputech_asu bonjour koha
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06:58 alex_a bonjour
06:58 wahanui hello, alex_a
07:27 magnuse hooray for bug 23112!
07:28 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23112 new feature, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, NEW , Circulation of ILL items
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07:53 ashimema thought you might like that one magnuse
08:28 magnuse ashimema: hehe, perfect! do you have a timeframe for the development?
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08:39 ashimema 19th July is our official start date for it that we've told the customer whose funding it.
08:40 ashimema but we may start it earlier if the RFC looks solid
08:40 ashimema I wanted to try and ensure we nailed the RFC down before starting dev on this one :)
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11:41 huginn` ashimema: alex_a was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 42 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <alex_a> bonjour
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12:08 oleonard Hi all
12:26 calire hi oleonard
12:26 wahanui hi oleopard
12:26 eythian hi oleopard, cailre.
12:28 calire hi eythian
12:28 * oleonard wonders what he should do today...
12:29 cait fix all the bugs? :)
12:29 oleonard It's all a question of which one to do first
12:29 * ashimema wouldn't mind oleonard's UX eyes on his two accounts tables bugs
12:30 ashimema bug 23106 and bug 23115
12:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23106 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Totals are unclear when a credit is involved on the 'Pay fines' screen
12:30 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23115 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Totals are unclear when a credit is involved on the OPAC 'Fines and charges' screen
12:31 oleonard I will take a look ashimema
12:32 ashimema hugs
12:32 ashimema hopefully they're quick one's to look at.. they're small really
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13:05 cait bug 23122 might be a fun one
13:05 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23122 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When searching callnumber in simple search, search option is not retained
13:05 cait i suspect a template issue
13:06 ashimema any chance you could also take a look at bug 23025 oleonard.. I'm not sure I'd know what to look at to spot breakage
13:06 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23025 is not accessible.
13:11 cait found another: bug 23123
13:11 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23123 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Status AVAILABLE and ORDERED for suggestions is not translated in the templates
13:22 oleonard cait ashimema I added an updated patch to Bug 23025 with a test plan
13:22 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23025 is not accessible.
13:24 ashimema thanks oleonard :)
13:26 cait oleonard++ :)
13:29 magnuse oleonard++
13:29 oleonard The process of keeping those dependencies up to date is new to me. As far as I know we'll only need to do it when there is a security issue or when we find that a new feature requires an updated version.
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13:45 oleonard Hi wizzyrea
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13:54 oleonard ashimema: I'm confused by what I'm seeing with Bug 23115
13:54 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23115 trivial, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Totals are unclear when a credit is involved on the OPAC 'Fines and charges' screen
13:56 wizzyrea good morning
13:57 oleonard Why is there one payment line in that bottom section? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15605205335410
13:57 ashimema that does indeed look odd
13:57 ashimema it's because the 'outstanding' is not 0
13:57 ashimema I would have expected a Payment to have been applied to something
13:58 ashimema and thus zeroed
13:58 ashimema how did you create that payment line?
13:59 oleonard It was data already in the system, so there's a chance it's messed up. I'll try some fresh transactions.
14:03 * ashimema tries to replicate that and can't
14:03 ashimema man I find the whole change thing a bit wierd
14:05 * cait grumps
14:05 cait I filed a bug but not much participation there so far
14:06 oleonard cait: ?
14:08 ashimema I'm looking at it again now cait
14:08 ashimema trying to decide if/how I'd make it cleaner
14:09 ashimema it feels a little wierd that it's not impossible to make an overpayment
14:09 oleonard ashimema: This looks more like what you were expecting? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15605213090826
14:11 ashimema yeah, looks better
14:12 ashimema basically.. any outstanding Credits shown beneith the 'Total due'..
14:12 ashimema I just wanted to try and make it clearer that the credits are not yet applied
14:12 ashimema I suppose 'Total due' could be 'Subtotal'
14:13 ashimema it's odd as when online payments are enabled there's no way for the end user to apply existing credits.. so they'll end up paying off the top figure (if they select to pay all)
14:14 cait ashimema: my issue is mostly partial payments
14:14 cait if you pay amount,not a single line (iirc)
14:15 cait but also the labelling is inconsistent between paying a single line and an amount
14:15 oleonard I think we need to emphasize that the information in that line is different from the amounts due. Perhaps: https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15605217138723
14:19 oleonard cait: I can't reproduce Bug 23122
14:19 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23122 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , When searching callnumber in simple search, search option is not retained
14:20 ashimema hmm
14:20 ashimema then you loose the 'amount' vs 'amount oustanting'
14:21 * ashimema ponders if there's any other way to highlight it more
14:22 ashimema perhaps the label at the top should be corrected from 'Fine amount' to 'Amount' too whilst we're here.. even above the line we're still showing payments (one's that have zero outstanding) so really the 'Fine amount' column is mislabled as it is.
14:23 cait oleonard: hm, tested in 18.11
14:24 cait sorry, i should have noted that
14:24 oleonard I tested in master and 18.05
14:24 cait i've sent you a link, can you check if you see it there? just to make sure?
14:24 cait that we are testing the same thing
14:26 oleonard I see that when I do the search the callnum parameter looks like this: idx=callnum
14:26 oleonard On your system it's idx=callnum%2Cphr
14:27 cait ah yes
14:27 cait that's a syspref
14:27 cait look sofr 'phrase'
14:27 cait but it did break for both settings for me
14:28 oleonard I can reproduce the bug if I turn on phrase searching
14:35 ashimema did the 'credit' class used to do anything styling wise on those credit lines oleonard?
14:35 ashimema not on the lines I've moved to the bottom but in generall
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14:35 oleonard I think it probably did ashimema, I'm not sure when we lost track of it
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14:35 ashimema the credits above the total are also classed up as credits
14:37 ashimema hmm.. I'm also wondering if the credits below the total should get the same even/odd row treatment.. didn't realise I'd missed that
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14:51 oleonard I think I've got it cait
14:56 ashimema https://imgur.com/eWDMHVx
14:56 ashimema any better?
14:56 liliputech_asu it's friday, have a nice weekend Koha folks :)
14:57 cait oleonard: oh cool
14:57 ashimema italisized all 'outstanding' lines
14:57 cait sorry, got distracted here (work stuff)
14:57 cait well, coworker dropped a big tower with files off the desk and that caused some distraction heh
14:57 oleonard ashimema: I would be (am) confused about what an "outstanding" credit is.
14:58 ashimema hmm
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14:58 ashimema ok
15:00 ashimema my plan is to add an 'apply' button in the next bug.. so patrons can apply their credit against debits if they want to
15:00 ashimema it's only a problem if you have the prefs set to not automatically always apply credit against debt
15:00 ashimema the AutoReconcileBalance thing
15:04 reiveune bye
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15:05 cait ashimema: i think this needs to be a pref (the apply for patrons) as noted on the bug
15:06 ashimema of course
15:07 ashimema :confused:
15:08 ashimema looking at opac.scss it looks to me like td.sum should be bold.. but it's clearly not in our screenshots
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15:11 oleonard It's a bug ashimema. It should say " &.sum { "
15:12 ashimema oh.. coolios
15:12 * ashimema should properly read scss and remind himself how it works
15:16 ashimema hmm..
15:17 ashimema so do you think it's clearer without my changes at all then?
15:18 ashimema we've got a few customers who are getting complaints that the totals are all messed up without my changes
15:21 oleonard ashimema: Sorry, I deal with fines and charges so seldom I don't think I'm the best person to ask
15:22 oleonard #endlibraryfines
15:22 ashimema no worries.. you've already helped clarify a few things for me :)
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18:37 pedro_ Hello, I have a problem with SRU server, when I try to search (myserver:9999/?version=1.1&operation​=scan&scanClause=dc.identifier=fish) i always have the same error  (YAZ 4.2.30
18:37 pedro_ Error: 404
18:37 pedro_
18:37 pedro_ Description: Not Found). How Can I configure the server in a correct way?
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18:40 pedro_ with yaz-client command (Z> find), It shows: [109] Database unavailable -- v2 addinfo 'biblios'.
18:59 kidclamp have a nice weekend all!
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20:03 magnuse @later tell pedro_ does it help if you use myserver:9999/biblio?version=1.1&operat​ion=scan&scanClause=dc.identifier=fish (notice the "biblio")
20:03 huginn` magnuse: The operation succeeded.
20:11 bag magnuse: HI!!!
20:19 magnuse bag: HI
20:20 magnuse knuckles!
20:23 bag knuckles >>>>
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21:13 ashimema kidclamp ++ #giving bug 23104 a good thorough testing
21:13 huginn` Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23104 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Regression (18925) in circ rules - unlimited vs 0
21:19 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #100: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/100/
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21:36 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #107: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_D9/107/
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21:52 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #101: SUCCESS in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.11_U18/101/
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