IRC log for #koha, 2019-05-31

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06:01 marcelr hi #koha
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06:49 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
06:49 wahanui Congratulations!
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06:49 magnuse hiya marcelr and #koha
06:54 cait good morning #koha!
06:55 magnuse hiya cait
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07:01 marcelr hi magnuse and cait
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07:05 cait morning marcelr!
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07:43 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
07:43 wahanui Congratulations!
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07:44 cait good morning magnuse too :)
07:44 cait marcelr: just testing the inventory patch
07:44 marcelr cait++
07:44 cait i have confusing results :(
07:44 cait with the patch the items don't appear in the list that is shown after comparing
07:44 marcelr inventory is confusing
07:44 cait i've tried it several times now
07:44 cait I expected them to show as "found" now
07:45 marcelr doesnt it list only the problems?
07:45 cait testing with one normal and one $ barcode, both are missing from the list
07:45 cait nope
07:45 cait hm at least i thought it did not....
07:45 cait i might not understand how this works
07:45 marcelr i had good results with the $ in between
07:45 cait I'll check the manual... maybe it will clear things up
07:45 marcelr compare also behavior with and without the patch
07:46 cait yah without the patch i have 3 showing... so if it only showed the problems that would make sense
07:46 marcelr iirc the $ barcode is only listed as a problem without the patch
07:46 cait i should explain
07:46 cait the record has 4 items, 2 are in my barcode list
07:46 cait without the patch 3 show up as problem, with the patch 2... which makes sense if you are right
07:47 marcelr sounds ok
07:47 cait yep
07:47 cait i though it shoudl show up the found ones as well, I think that was my thinking error
07:47 marcelr i think we have an open bug for that somewhere
07:48 marcelr more people tend to expect that
07:48 marcelr so it functions a bit counter intuitive
07:48 cait manual could be abit clearer, but it hink i can sign off
07:48 cait[…]ventory#inventory
07:48 marcelr great
07:49 cait thx for helping with the fix
07:49 marcelr i would never recommend to put dollars in barcodes btw
07:49 cait i wouldn't either
07:49 marcelr dollar is asking for trouble with regexes
07:49 cait but they already had it
07:49 marcelr yeah
07:49 cait it's also giving us trouble with search
07:49 marcelr expecting such things
07:49 cait unless you do some ccl query witout it (truncated) zebra can't find it
07:51 cait i hope it will also be useful in other scenarios
07:51 cait I could imagine . in barcodes and some other chars
07:51 cait + maybe?
07:51 marcelr it is a code improvement
07:51 cait could lead to false positives
08:31 cait thx marcelr++ - QA'ing the SIP patches especially
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08:44 magnuse marcelr++
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09:07 AndrewIsh Hey all, hope everyone's journeys back from Dublin were trouble free! Has anyone ever seen a problem where emptying a patron's basket fails due to a cross domain restriction? We're only seeing it on one instance.
09:07 AndrewIsh s/basket/cart/
09:08 AndrewIsh For some reason it seems the cart window thinks it's on a different domain to the main Koha window!
09:08 AndrewIsh But it's not and the cookie domain and path are correct
09:08 AndrewIsh I spent most of yesterday banging my head against this one, it's mad
09:09 AndrewIsh Upon trying to empty the cart, I get "basket_18.1104000.js:62 Uncaught DOMException: Blocked a frame with origin "<instance_domain>" from accessing a cross-origin frame."
09:09 magnuse wow, never seen or heard of that
09:10 AndrewIsh Obviously <instance_domain> is the actual domain of the instance :-)
09:10 AndrewIsh No magnuse neither have we, it's super weird
09:11 cait AndrewIsh: sorry, haven't seen that either
09:11 cait maybe oleonard will have an idea, but he is not around yet
09:11 AndrewIsh Ah yes, good point, I'll hassle him later :)
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09:58 cait ... so today is a bridge day - yesterday being a holiday
09:59 cait ... and the idea was to work in quiet with everyone else being on vacation. But seems everyone else has had the same htought *sigh*
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10:18 tuxayo he he he
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10:22 gk hi koha
10:24 gk Package upgrade from Koha 18.11.05 to 19.05; Errors were encountered while processing: koha-common   E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned error code (1)
10:28 tcohen morning
10:58 cait morning tcohen :)
10:58 cait gk: did you check if hte package is ready yet?
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11:11 cait hm
11:11 cait do we haven an option to make files only accessible for logged in users in Koha currently?
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11:37 oleonard Hi all
11:39 magnuse hi oleonard
11:39 wahanui hi oleopard
11:39 * magnuse reminds AndrewIsh to hassle oleonard
11:40 * oleonard steels himself
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11:50 oleonard @later tell AndrewIsh I haven't seen that problem before. In the OPAC I assume?
11:50 huginn` oleonard: The operation succeeded.
11:59 AndrewIsh oleonard:  Aha! Finally figured out what the problem was and forgot to post here, doh! Back in the mists of time, we had added: <script>document.domain = 'xyz'</script> to opacheader in order to get around a problem with embedding Koha into Wordpress. That was the problem!
11:59 cait ew
11:59 cait good spot :)
11:59 * oleonard always blames Wordpress ;)
12:00 AndrewIsh I can't take credit, a colleague who's brain hadn't been turned to mush by it spotted it. But yes, when in doubt blame Wordpress.
12:10 cait khall++ thx for signing off the fines patches :)
12:10 khall :)
12:10 cait I know our new RM will be happy ;)
12:11 * oleonard imagines our new RM is busy admiring himself in the mirror wearing his new crown
12:12 cait lol
12:12 cait there comes a crown with the job?
12:12 * cait puts her name down for next term
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13:06 caroline_crazycatlady good morning!
13:08 liliputech_asu morning :)
13:08 liliputech_asu (though it's the afternoon here ^^)
13:10 caroline_crazycatlady morning is always someone's afternoon
13:12 cait morning :)
13:17 caroline_crazycatlady oh, I just realized that I graduated from catlady to crazycatlady
13:18 liliputech_asu !caturday!
13:18 AnnaBoten Error: "caturday!" is not a valid command.
13:18 liliputech_asu caturday?
13:19 caroline_crazycatlady hehe! My next fallback nick should be carolinecravescaturdays
13:20 caroline_crazycatlady In acquisitions, is there a way to see when items are created for a specific basket?
13:23 cait yes
13:23 caroline_crazycatlady I'm blind, I don't see it
13:24 cait there is a table connecting the orders with the items
13:24 cait sec
13:24 caroline_crazycatlady ok but it's not in the interface
13:24 cait ah
13:24 caroline_crazycatlady The librarian can't see it
13:24 cait nope
13:24 cait only from the item itself i think
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13:24 cait but....
13:24 caroline_crazycatlady oh...
13:24 cait we should change that?
13:25 cait when you are on the item you can jump back into acq
13:25 caroline_crazycatlady I think so, since it's something they configure when creating the basket
13:25 cait but not from acq to the item... well only by lcicking on the record
13:25 cait i think i misread your question :(
13:25 cait yes you can see it on the summary page i think
13:26 cait let me check
13:26 caroline_crazycatlady It's just that a client sked me if she received an order, would it create an item
13:26 caroline_crazycatlady (they are orders for ebooks, so no item is necessary)
13:26 caroline_crazycatlady and i'm trying to see what option she chose when creating the basket
13:26 cait on the basket summary
13:26 cait i have the info in the right column
13:26 cait abvoe basket group
13:26 cait but if it was a subscription order it would still not create an item
13:27 cait Create items when:
13:27 caroline_crazycatlady This is her screen (18.05)
13:28 caroline_crazycatlady If it's not different from default, maybe it doesn't show?
13:28 cait hm basket is closed
13:28 cait sec
13:28 cait checking if that makes a difference
13:28 cait for me it's above standing orders when open
13:29 caroline_crazycatlady this is on my master
13:29 cait um below
13:29 cait hm odd
13:29 cait my basket is closed too
13:29 caroline_crazycatlady her basket is not closed
13:29 cait i tired both now it always shows for me
13:29 cait 18.11
13:29 caroline_crazycatlady But even so, it means I can't change it
13:30 cait you have no basket group settings either?
13:30 cait is there something turned off there maybe or hidden?
13:30 caroline_crazycatlady no because the basket wasn't closed
13:30 caroline_crazycatlady now I see the basket group info
13:30 caroline_crazycatlady but not acqcreateitem
13:30 cait when the basket is open, i see it right below standing orders
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13:31 cait but not on your screenshots
13:31 caroline_crazycatlady no and it's not in the html either, so it's not like it's hidden or something
13:31 cait when was this feature added?
13:31 caroline_crazycatlady I will try to create a basket by choosing a different option than default
13:32 caroline_crazycatlady yup, ok that was it
13:32 cait 17.11
13:32 cait oh
13:32 caroline_crazycatlady if it's the default, it doesn't show
13:32 cait so it only shows if you are not using default
13:33 caroline_crazycatlady but if it's different from the default, it shows
13:33 cait hm I'd probably prefer it always showing
13:33 caroline_crazycatlady Do you find it confusing?
13:33 caroline_crazycatlady ok mee too
13:35 caroline_crazycatlady should we also be able to change it, or it would create too many error?
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13:35 cait i think once created changing it would be problematic
13:35 cait once the basket is created and has an order added to it
13:36 cait because then you get a mix of things
13:36 cait harder to catch and treat right... as we picked basket level
13:36 cait if we had made it order level ...
13:36 cait thinking about that, i'd like it even better
13:37 caroline_crazycatlady we could have a "create item" link for each order on order page and the receiving page (if the item is not already created)
13:38 cait oooh I like
13:38 cait i mean on receive you'd have only 2 options
13:38 cait but that would allow you to change your mind
13:38 cait and no mess
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14:24 cait are the kohacon presentations available somewhere?
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14:54 tuxayo cait: you mean only the slides or it the whole video recording fine?
14:54 tuxayo *Hi :)
15:05 cait tuxayo: one or both :)
15:06 tuxayo cait:[…]HXWAMA9xyIG7rKGwg
15:06 tuxayo Enjoy :)
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15:24 Joubu ashimema, kidclamp: I am working on the failing tests, it comes from misc4de
15:24 Joubu v
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16:07 tcohen hi
16:08 tcohen Joubu: I just got the office
16:08 tcohen I didn't define any pipeline on gitlab, still building in jenkins
16:09 tcohen oh c*ap
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18:29 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:29 wahanui Congratulations!
18:29 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #252: FIXED in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/252/
18:40 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:40 wahanui Congratulations!
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21:31 electronic hello, is there a simple way to generate a template with only some fields and others hide them? in case it could affect the database?
21:37 electronic can deleting fields in the MARC structure affect something later?
21:39 caroline_crazycatlady hi electronic I think if you delete fields from a framework and then save a record using that template, the fields will be deleted from the record (not only hidden)
21:41 caroline_crazycatlady I always recommend hiding fields (uncheck the OPAC, Intranet and Editor boxes) rather than deleting or ignoring them
21:42 caroline_crazycatlady the fastest way that I know to create a new framework is to export one in OpenDocument Format, make the changes you need to, and then create a new framework by importing the file
21:43 electronic I just need a few fields for cataloging, export in a csv file and hide them with an "8". Can it work?
21:43 caroline_crazycatlady yup
21:45 electronic is that if I hide all with an "8" in the column "M" and then selecting the fields you want with a "0" when you import them when the data appear
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21:46 electronic or maybe some fields are mandatory and if the hidden ones do not work
21:46 caroline_crazycatlady I'm not sure I understand your question. the data will be in the database, but it will not appear in the interface
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21:49 electronic Then I can export a template to hide all the fields and then select the ones I need. then import them again
21:50 electronic by the way I'm an electronic engineer and koha is new to me
21:50 lukeG anyone know the proper way to get defaultreplacecost for itemtypes into an ODUE slip with TT?
21:51 caroline_crazycatlady electronic: are you trying to import records while "cleaning" them at the same time?
21:53 caroline_crazycatlady because for that, you can use marc modification templates
21:53 caroline_crazycatlady but that will delete the data
21:55 caroline_crazycatlady good night everyone!
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