IRC log for #koha, 2019-04-15

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06:39 marcelr hi #koha
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06:42 reiveune hello
06:42 wahanui privet, reiveune
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06:56 alex_a bonjour
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07:16 cait good morning #koha
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07:22 magnuse huh, do we never anonymize the reserves/old_reserves tables?
07:24 magnuse well, old_reserves is the one that would need it, i guess
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07:30 * andreashm waves
07:30 andreashm magnuse: if I remember correctly, then no, no anonymization of old_reserves
07:30 cait magnuse: it only has the borrowernumber... but nope
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07:45 ere cait: hi!
07:46 cait ere: hi!
07:46 cait sorry, I didn't finish testing, hope tomake progress today
07:46 ere cait: So, about your ES problem. Did you check /var/log/elasticsearch/elasticsearch.log? The typical issue with kohadevbox is that it wasn't created with enough memory for ES to start. Did you create it with "KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 vagrant up"?
07:47 cait it has 4gb, i checked
07:47 ere cait: okay, then the log should tell you everything..
07:47 cait but only in the virtualbox management software - i will check the file too
07:47 cait the log is silent :(
07:47 cait i can't access the installation now (on wrong computer), so will have to have a look when I get home
07:48 ere no worries, just something to do when you get there :)
07:49 cait thx!
07:49 cait did you see my note on the browse in opac bug?
07:49 cait I'd really like if you could take a look there
07:49 ere cait: I'll take a look
07:50 cait do you need the number?
07:50 ere cait: bug 14567 I assume
07:50 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14567 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Browse interface for OPAC
07:50 cait yep!
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07:53 ere cait: I wonder if it should relate to bug 22592 somehow..
07:53 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=22592 enhancement, P3, ---, ere.maijala, Signed Off , Elasticsearch - Support for index scan
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07:55 magnuse cait: what do you mean by "it only has the borrowernumber"? isn't there a connection to a biblio or item too?
07:56 cait ere: hard for me to tell, this code is quite old compared to the other
07:56 cait magnuse: was thinking only about personal data :)
07:57 magnuse cait: isn't it identical to issues?
07:58 ere cait: Indeed.. the latter bug is intended to provide at least some form of support for the existing index scan while 14567 has both the UI and the the browse support. I'll test it out to see how it looks.
07:58 cait magnuse: now you confused me
08:03 magnuse cait: isn't what books you have reserved personal data in the same way that what books you have borrowed is personal data?
08:03 magnuse are they not qually sensitive and worthy of anonymization?
08:04 marcelr magnuse: sounds like you want optional old_reserves
08:04 cait i think question is when you want to anonymize
08:04 cait at the moment for some reporting questions the data is valuable
08:05 magnuse well, it might be nice to have the data for stats, but to me it should be anonymized exactly the same way as old issues
08:05 cait especially reporting on attributes like homebranch of patron, statistical groups (sort 1 sort2), age, patron category
08:06 cait hm match circ history to reserve histroy?
08:06 magnuse ?
08:07 * magnuse was going to so bug 21545 now, but someone beat me to it :-)
08:07 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21545 enhancement, P5 - low, 18.11, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Update German web Installer for 18.11
08:35 cait the patron pricacy optoins for circ history - have the same for reserve history
08:36 cait was wondering if that was waht you meant
08:45 magnuse yeah, that wuould make sense, i think
08:45 magnuse maybe just use the same privacy setting for reserves too?
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09:03 cait magnuse: not sure, maybe better separate?
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09:20 vfernandes hi #koha
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10:19 magnuse cait: yeah, someone is bound to want one without the other
10:19 magnuse @quote get 123
10:19 huginn` magnuse: Quote #123: "rangi: #thingsihavelearnt if there is a mad scheme a library somewhere will be doing it ... except madder" (added by wizzyrea at 09:20 PM, March 30, 2011)
10:19 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`.
10:50 eythian hi
11:04 magnuse kia ora eythian
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11:32 magnuse cough bug 17489 cough
11:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17489 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, NEW , Allow Koha plugins to have translations
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11:57 oleonard Hi all
11:57 magnuse hi oleonard
11:57 wahanui hi oleopard
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12:16 * kidclamp waves
12:18 ere hi kidclamp!
12:20 kidclamp Hi ere!
12:22 ashimema_ bug 12166 , don't support you fancied re-implementing that for 18.11.x series did you oleonard . I'm happy to miss it, but if you wanted to rebase it I'd be happy to push it too..
12:22 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=12166 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Master , Improve display of hold charges in patron account
12:22 ashimema_ hi kidclamp
12:24 oleonard To be honest ashimema_ I don't think so
12:27 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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12:29 ashimema_ coolios
12:30 ashimema_ it's such a long standing bug that I'm not worried about backporting it either.. just thought I'd give you the option ;)
12:31 ashimema_ 80 down, 60 to go.. time for a break and a walk me thinks
12:31 ashimema_ bbiab #koha
12:34 oleonard ashimema_++
12:35 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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12:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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12:46 oleonard Hi GeekRuthie!
12:47 * cait waves at GeekRuthie
12:47 * GeekRuthie waves frantically at oleonard.
12:48 oleonard \o
12:49 * ashimema_ waves at GeekRuthie too
12:49 GeekRuthie :)  Howdy.
12:49 oleonard Long time no see!
12:49 * ashimema_ dissapears for proper for his walk now.. kids waiting
12:49 ashimema_ lovely to see you GeekRuthie though.. been a long time
12:49 * ashimema_ will read logs on his return
12:50 GeekRuthie It has been a while, yeah.  Good to see some friendly "faces" still around.
12:51 * oleonard 's will requires that his preserved corpse be propped up in the corner of #koha upon his death
12:52 GeekRuthie lol
12:53 GeekRuthie "Where on Earth have you been?" summary, since I'll get asked this about a dozen times:  I worked at cPanel until October, shortly after they got bought out (by the same capital company that owns their largest competitor, natch). +
12:54 oleonard I saw hints that you'd moved, but didn't know that cPanel was bought out
12:54 cait oh wow, haven't heard that
12:54 GeekRuthie Things got strange there in a big damn hurry, so I found another gig.  I've been almost 6 months now at Clearbuilt ( hacking on business-process automation stuff using Dancer2/DBIx::Class.
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12:54 oleonard Ugh, bought by an investment group. That's yucky.
12:55 GeekRuthie I work from home, 100%, we're a totally remote company.  I *missed* that.  Benefits are so-so, but getting better since we're growing now. I'm respected and valued, and that's the best perk ever.
12:59 GeekRuthie Yeah, management stood up and told The Big Lie ("Nothing will change!"), and it took about six...maybe seven, okay...minutes, to prove that it was a lie.  So I was done.
12:59 oleonard Why do they even say that... It's never true
13:00 GeekRuthie Right? And everyone who's been in the industry more than a week knows that.  My exit interview was over 2 hours long.  My boss said, "now's your chance."  I asked him if he wanted the truth, or wanted me to patronize him.
13:00 oleonard Ha
13:01 GeekRuthie He said he wanted truth.  I told him if he wanted to know where to find the problems that were causing senior people to walk suddenly, look in a mirror.  He didn't like that much.
13:05 magnuse GeekRuthie!
13:05 magnuse lulz
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13:07 GeekRuthie magnuse!  :)
13:08 magnuse yay for perl and being respected and valued
13:10 magnuse ...and now you want to get into hacking Koha as a hobby? ;-)
13:10 GeekRuthie yup.  I keynoted the last two European Perl Conferences (Amsterdam and Glasgow), and have spoken at the NA Perl Conferences almost every year.  Got two talks accepted for Pittsburgh this summer.
13:10 magnuse awesome!
13:10 GeekRuthie Oh, maybe.  I have a little bit more time on my hands than I used to with my commute.
13:12 GeekRuthie (Ditching the 2 hours of commute time every day has made a world of difference in my life.)
13:12 magnuse nice
13:13 * magnuse has been working from home for 10 years now, and can agree totally
13:13 magnuse the only downside is sometimes you need a bit of time to change gears from work to home life. at least i do
13:14 magnuse huh: "You have entered a username that already exists. Please choose another one." is that a thing now?
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13:14 magnuse woohoo \o/
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13:23 magnuse woohoo \o/
13:27 tcohen hola #koha
13:27 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
13:28 magnuse anyone else seen this: i try to change the password on /cgi-bin/koha/members/, leave the userid perfectly alone and get the error "You have entered a username that already exists. Please choose another one."
13:31 tcohen I can take a look
13:31 magnuse same error if i do try to change the userid
13:31 tcohen I just noticed putting a single passwords lets it through
13:31 * GeekRuthie waves to tcohen
13:31 tcohen version?
13:31 wahanui i think version is very stable and translation is great
13:37 magnuse tcohen: never mind, it was cause by the code i was trying to add... *facepalm*
13:42 * magnuse runs off to make dindins
13:42 eythian magnuse: what weird timezone are you in then?
13:44 eythian wahanui: facepalm is <reply>http://buikitty.files.wordpres[…]120202-094434.jpg|a tiny member of the Arecaceae family whose preference for warm, humid environments makes it a perfect choice for cultivation in the human nasal cavity.|<reply>[…]5ibpuFO/giphy.gif
13:44 wahanui OK, eythian.
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13:48 wizzyrea hi
13:48 wahanui kia ora, wizzyrea
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14:03 cait alex_a_: around?
14:03 eythian hizzyrea
14:03 wizzyrea imma change my nick to that
14:03 wizzyrea but hizzycray
14:03 wizzyrea because reasons
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14:04 eythian seems reasonable
14:04 alex_a_ cait, yep!
14:07 oleonard Hi hizzycray :)
14:08 hizzycray hi ^.^
14:08 hizzycray how we doin
14:09 * oleonard is distracted by thinking about the 10th generation of hizzycray's name which is so far past it's original root that it is incomprehensible
14:09 hizzycray mission accomplished?
14:09 cait alex_a_: answered my own question- was wondering why the KOCT plugin didn't detect my wrong branchcode (works with 18.11.04 according to bugzilla, but was testing with .02
14:10 eythian that's what someone like oleopard would say, of course.
14:11 hizzycray hahaha
14:13 eythian I guess OFTC doesn't permit þ in nicknames.
14:14 ye_old_leopard It's discriminatory is what it is
14:19 alex_a_ cait, nice! But question about KOCT are for matts :-)
14:20 alex_a_ koct-matts
14:26 cait aaah
14:26 cait coral-koct-matts :)
14:27 matts :)
14:27 cait i think you answered me on the bug
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14:27 cait nope, ti was matts, sorry :)
14:52 hizzycray cait, would you mind having a look at 18308
14:52 hizzycray I think she's gotten everything
14:52 hizzycray (the "use asset" bit aside
15:32 cait i was wondering if we shoudl wait for the other bug - it's pqa now
15:32 cait itwill be in conflict
15:32 cait the asset one
15:32 cait bug 18308
15:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18308 normal, P5 - low, ---, hayleymapley, Signed Off , Default value of minPasswordLength should be increased
15:33 hizzycray will it be in actual conflict or only with the qa tools
15:33 cait actual
15:33 hizzycray hm
15:33 cait what she did there showed up strangely in my git
15:33 cait because i think a new step was introduced or something?
15:34 cait so i think it will, you coudl test
15:34 cait i don't have my box spun up.. still dealing with work email from 2 weeks vacation
15:34 hizzycray yeah there were two patches, one that added it and one that moved it
15:34 hizzycray they really ought to be squashed
15:35 reiveune bye
15:35 hizzycray bye
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15:35 hizzycray oh I think first time ever I caught them
15:36 hizzycray but I didn't pick up on anything particularly weird about the series
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16:14 cait hm no oleonard?
16:14 cait *shocked*
16:14 ye_old_leopard You just don't recognize me
16:16 hizzycray hehe
16:21 cait I see :)
16:21 cait I have a really odd issue in one library i'd like to pick your brain on tomorrow maybe?
16:21 cait 2 libraries... same koha version/code
16:21 cait both use forced item level holds
16:21 cait record with one item
16:21 cait the radio boxes are automatically checked
16:21 cait it says: no item selected
16:22 cait completely works in the other db
16:22 cait and i have run outo f ideas on how to figure it out :( i tried the debugger, but all i can see is that it must think that .confirm... size() == 0 is 0 and not 1 like it should be
16:25 cait no javasript errors
16:25 oleonard cait: In the OPAC?
16:25 cait yep
16:25 cait but i can't really show you because it's in a production db :(
16:25 cait but if you have an idea where i could look that would maybe hlep?
16:25 cait i switched to English - same issue
16:26 cait hm anothert thing: if you clickont he first checkbox (item level hold) - than the items disappear
16:26 cait and won't reappear
16:28 cait < that's the alert where it breaks
16:33 oleonard The checkbox really should only appear when reserving multiple items
16:33 cait 17.11 :(
16:34 cait maybe it changed, in the opac you can't reserve multiple
16:34 cait ah sorry, it's a radio button
16:34 oleonard Sorry, I mean to say: We should change it so that the checkbox only appears when reserving multiple records
16:34 cait oleonard: true
16:35 cait as the alert shows... i assume it didn't find an element with class confirm
16:35 cait confirmjs that is
16:35 oleonard I have not been able to reproduce it in master
16:36 cait as i said... i have a perfectly wroking one and a broken one
16:36 cait i haven't been able to find any difference
16:36 cait the forms look exactly the same
16:36 cait i just thought you might hae an idea or a good tip on what to try
16:37 oleonard Not off the top of my head, but I'll give it a try in 17.11
16:37 cait i'll have to try and take another look at this issue tomorrow with fresh eyes - got a little late here already
16:38 cait thanks a lot
16:39 cait i have to leave - bbl!
16:39 hizzycray cait userjs?
16:39 hizzycray also bye
16:39 cait nothing stands out
16:39 cait but i willt ry removing it, you re right
16:40 cait oleonard: you can stop looking...
16:40 cait i have no idea why it breaks it, but i will figure that out tomorrow
16:40 cait sorry for bothering you! hizzycray++ oleonard++
16:40 hizzycray oh yay!
16:44 cait It was this line here: $("label, .label, #usertags h1, #usermenu a, .breadcrumb a, .notags").text(function(_,v){
16:44 cait return v.replace(/Tags/g,'Schlagworte')});
16:44 cait a renaming operation for tags
16:44 hizzycray oooo
16:44 cait not sure yet why exactly, but can figure that out tomorrow .)
16:44 hizzycray \o/
16:48 cait thanks all!
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17:27 hizzycray i am so surprised we don't have a special sub to delete circ rules
17:28 * hizzycray imagines hizzycray is getting people confused
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17:45 wizzyrea oh geez I see, we add rules with a Koha:: sub but we delete them from the script. imma leave that one alone
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17:47 wizzyrea hi mtj
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18:34 oleonard ashimema_: I have a question about the way the ILL requests table is rendered in the staff client. Who would be the best person to ask about that?
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18:47 wizzyrea oh my, notre dame is burning :(
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18:48 oleonard :(
19:03 wizzyrea yea that is terribly sad
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19:19 wizzyrea argh that's just terrible and very distracting
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19:56 edveal So sad about the fire in Notre Dame. Thinking of all our French friends.
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20:13 rangi morning
20:22 cait morning rangi
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