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Chris |
Good afternoon/evening/morning |
| 04:08 |
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alexbuckley |
hi |
| 04:12 |
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Chris |
ooh! a person! |
| 04:12 |
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Chris |
I'm a librarian at an international school in South Korea and I'm looking to make the switch to a real ILS (Koha at this point)... but I have questions |
| 04:13 |
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alexbuckley |
oh yes what are your questions? |
| 04:14 |
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Chris |
(I'm new to librarianing so I'm figuring things out) but I gather I can import MARC records and put our whole collection up, and it'll resemble a real library. |
| 04:15 |
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Chris |
Right now we can only search by title, not even author... so anything is an improvement. My problem lies with the Korean books |
| 04:15 |
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alexbuckley |
ah yes Koha would certainly be a big improvement for you |
| 04:16 |
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alexbuckley |
yes so you can batch import marc records into Koha |
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Chris |
99058 |
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Chris |
sorry about that, a student just beeped a barcode haha |
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alexbuckley |
hehe no worries |
| 04:18 |
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Chris |
any experience/idea if it's possible to search a Korean database? I've been trying to find one but I'm having language issues |
| 04:19 |
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Chris |
I need to run to a different classroom, I'll sign back on here - there... my life is a mess... |
| 04:19 |
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alexbuckley |
I personally do not have experience of that however I am sure it is possible Koha is in very wide use worldwide |
| 04:22 |
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alexbuckley |
righto |
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ChrisUpstairs |
last I saw it's probably possible because Koha is worldwide :) |
| 04:25 |
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ChrisUpstairs |
I guess other questions would be: can Koha handle non-English characters? and how difficult would it be to manually enter books into our catalogue? |
| 04:29 |
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alexbuckley |
yes Koha can handle not english characters and it has extensive translations |
| 04:30 |
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alexbuckley |
When you say 'how difficult would it be to manually enter books into our catalogue?' do you mean adding books after migrating your catalogue to Koha, i.e. acquisitions? |
| 04:32 |
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ChrisUpstairs |
that, and if I can't import MARC records from a database, to manually enter information for each Korean book in our library |
| 04:37 |
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alexbuckley |
You might find this part of the Koha manual useful: https://koha-community.org/man[…]l/cataloging.html Basically when doing acquisitions you can use something called Z39.50 which is where you can find and retrieve bibliographic information about a book from a remote source for example the library of congress, it can really speed up cataloging |
| 04:38 |
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alexbuckley |
as regards importing marc records from a database that should be possible and there are a number of scripts you can run to clean the data to put it in a useable form to batch import into Koha |
| 04:44 |
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ChrisUpstairs |
In theory I could batch search ISBN numbers for MARC records, then put those MARC records into Koha? |
| 04:54 |
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ChrisUpstairs |
I've found the mailing list and will try there. Thanks much for your help alexbuckley! |
| 05:11 |
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alexbuckley |
no problem chris :) |
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ashimema |
ChrisUpstairs still here I wonder? |
| 06:20 |
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ashimema |
You'll want to make sure you choose the ICU option when you install Koha to get full characterset support for Korean |
| 06:21 |
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ashimema |
Koha does work with RTL and LTR languages happily |
| 06:22 |
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ashimema |
Not sure if we're translated into Korean yet.. translate.koha-community.org is where the translations are done.. I'll check the status of that language when I login properly later this morning |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
what's up, alex_a |
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AndrewIsh |
fridolin: Hi Fridolin. You recently backported Bug 20968 to 17.11.x, which is awesome, thanks. Is there any chance you could also backport Bug 21905 please? It's a tiny patch and fixes a bug in 20968, without it 20968 won't work :-/ |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20968 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugins: Add hooks to enable plugin integration into catalogue |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_enhancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered |
| 08:58 |
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fridolin |
ok i have a look |
| 08:58 |
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AndrewIsh |
Many thanks :) |
| 08:59 |
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fridolin |
oh 21905 was not backported to 18.05.x because of dependancies |
| 09:00 |
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ashimema |
i wasn't entirely sure why that was the case.. |
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ashimema |
I meant to ask them |
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AndrewIsh |
Yeah, I just spotted that, I'm not sure what dependencies Lucas is talking about |
| 09:00 |
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fridolin |
Bug 13618 can be corrected by not using $raw |
| 09:00 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=13618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Add additional template filter methods and a filter presence test to Koha |
| 09:00 |
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AndrewIsh |
Looks like 18.05.x has 20968, so that's not a problem |
| 09:01 |
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fridolin |
AndrewIsh: please mail this demand on all Release Maintainers pls |
| 09:01 |
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fridolin |
we love plugins |
| 09:01 |
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fridolin |
;) |
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ashimema |
hehe |
| 09:02 |
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AndrewIsh |
fridolin: No problem, what's the email address for that, sorry to have to ask? |
| 09:02 |
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fridolin |
there is not really one ;) |
| 09:02 |
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AndrewIsh |
Lol, OK, fair enough :) |
| 09:02 |
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fridolin |
its me and Lucas |
| 09:03 |
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* ashimema |
will pass on the list |
| 09:03 |
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fridolin |
you can find our mails in Bugzilla |
| 09:03 |
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AndrewIsh |
fridolin: Ah yes, of course, thanks |
| 09:03 |
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fridolin |
your welcome |
| 09:04 |
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ashimema |
or AndrewIsh we could just catch Jesse and Lucas in slack this afternoon |
| 09:04 |
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AndrewIsh |
Yeah, true, well, either works. Email might be better as their presence on Slack is variable I think |
| 09:10 |
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Archie^ |
What excatly is Correlation between Biblio, BiblioItems and Items table. I get Biblio stores records of all books, items are... well items in libraries. What is Biblioitems for? |
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| 09:34 |
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fridolin |
Archie^: there is a recent mail on that |
| 09:35 |
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Archie^ |
fridolin: i'm afraid i am on in the mailing list |
| 09:36 |
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fridolin |
http://koha.1045719.n5.nabble.[…]or-td6002906.html |
| 09:36 |
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fridolin |
Archie^: here |
| 09:36 |
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fridolin |
note that in Koha >= 17.11 there is biblio_metadata containing MARC data |
| 09:37 |
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fridolin |
marcxml actually |
| 09:37 |
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Archie^ |
aye gracias fridolin |
| 09:37 |
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fridolin |
and maybe someday other format like DC |
| 09:37 |
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fridolin |
for me biblio = biblioitems, its a one to one relation |
| 09:38 |
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fridolin |
items is the storage of 952 (995 unimarc) fields |
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JesseM |
AndrewIsh: I pushed that for you to 18.05 :) |
| 12:06 |
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AndrewIsh |
JesseM++ |
| 12:06 |
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AndrewIsh |
Thanks very much JesseM :) |
| 12:06 |
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ashimema |
awesome |
| 12:07 |
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JesseM |
You're welcome. If there is anything else please let me know. |
| 12:07 |
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AndrewIsh |
Thanks :) |
| 12:08 |
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AndrewIsh |
fridolin: Any chance of 21905 getting into 17.11.13 now JesseM has pushed it into 18.05? Pretty please :-D |
| 12:10 |
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fridolin |
AndrewIsh: i'm on it |
| 12:10 |
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fridolin |
but coffeeeeeee first |
| 12:10 |
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fridolin |
;) |
| 12:11 |
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AndrewIsh |
fridolin++ |
| 12:17 |
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JesseM |
fridolin: wait a few minutes. I might need to fix this patch |
| 12:26 |
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JesseM |
AndrewIsh: I don't think 21905 is needed for 18.05. Bug was introduced in master. Should need this bug |
| 12:26 |
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JesseM |
Shouldn't need this patch |
| 12:27 |
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fridolin |
k |
| 12:27 |
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JesseM |
I need more coffee now. |
| 12:28 |
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fridolin |
JesseM: be careful not to add $raw TT filter, juste remove this filter |
| 12:28 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #141: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/141/ |
| 12:29 |
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JesseM |
There is not html filter in 18.05 though |
| 12:30 |
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ashimema |
do you not have the pre-push hook that checks for $raw JesseM? |
| 12:32 |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
| 12:34 |
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fridolin |
ashimema: oh i dont |
| 12:34 |
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fridolin |
where is it ? |
| 12:34 |
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AndrewIsh |
Ah, JesseM you're absolutely right! FFS, what an idiot I am. |
| 12:35 |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #144: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/144/ |
| 12:35 |
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fridolin |
bug 21905 |
| 12:35 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_enhancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered |
| 12:36 |
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fridolin |
ahh its a bug not an enancement |
| 12:36 |
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JesseM |
ashimema: I need to figure out why my pre-push hooks are not working |
| 12:36 |
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fridolin |
enhancement |
| 12:37 |
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fridolin |
you may test Koha 17.11 with plugin https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]gin-kitchen-sink/ |
| 12:37 |
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ashimema |
Joubu and I came up with that one for Jesse and Lucas.. help them out with the $raw's.. I sorta preusmed that by the time patchs got to you the $raw should already have been removed Frido so i didn't copy it to you |
| 12:38 |
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fridolin |
ashimema: of course ;) |
| 12:39 |
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ashimema |
oh.. so you're struggling with the pre-push hook are you Jesse? |
| 12:41 |
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JesseM |
first off it actually helps if I add that to my pre-push hooks |
| 12:43 |
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ashimema |
https://paste.debian.net/1056533/ |
| 12:43 |
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JesseM |
Just added what you sent over ashimema. I should be good going forward. |
| 12:43 |
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ashimema |
that's the hooked I ended up with in it's entirety for 18.05.x |
| 12:43 |
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ashimema |
and it just sits in kohaclone/.git/hooks/pre-push |
| 12:43 |
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eythian |
Someone just demoed something to me that allows you to inject a non-breaking breakpoint into running Perl code. So you could have a sub that, say, dumps the variable values when this point is hit, or make a stacktrace, etc. But you can modify the config of it at runtime, for exploring what a program is doing. You could, in theory, also inject your own Perl code. It's like Erlang debugging. |
| 12:44 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 12:44 |
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JesseM |
Thanks ashimema |
| 12:44 |
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Joubu |
o/ |
| 12:44 |
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eythian |
You can even explore production, as normally it doesn't do anything until you ask it to, so if prod is acting up you can have a look into it without restarting it. |
| 12:44 |
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ashimema |
wow eythian |
| 12:44 |
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eythian |
It'll hopefully be on CPAN soon, it was just written yesterday. |
| 12:45 |
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eythian |
Keep an eye open for Devel::Probe |
| 12:45 |
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* ashimema |
will |
| 12:46 |
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ashimema |
you may need to adapt that slightly to allow two commiters JesseM |
| 12:46 |
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ashimema |
as you and Lucas are sharing the role |
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JesseM |
ashimema++ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #145: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/145/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #128: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/128/ |
| 13:10 |
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Joubu |
JesseM: 18.05 is failing because of https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]docker/issues/103 |
| 13:10 |
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Joubu |
It is expected. I wanted to confirm that the removal of Cache::Memory fixed the selenium tests (it did!) |
| 13:12 |
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ashimema |
Brill.. I thought that was the problem |
| 13:12 |
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ashimema |
So, we need to update the docket a bit |
| 13:13 |
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Joubu |
I am wondering what's best, maybe the tests should pass (skip) if memcached is not configured |
| 13:14 |
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Joubu |
well, 18.05 images should have memcached setup correctly |
| 13:19 |
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ashimema |
Indeed |
| 13:19 |
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ashimema |
I meant to ask.. do we even suggest we fully support koha with any caching? |
| 13:19 |
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ashimema |
Or is memcached basically required these days |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #142: STILL UNSTABLE in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/142/ |
| 13:27 |
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Joubu |
the about page displays a red alert is memcached is not configured |
| 13:28 |
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ashimema |
Indeed.. so in reality is a requirement these days and not just a recommendation.. |
| 13:28 |
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ashimema |
My point is.. some of the tests that are failing probably shouldn't be failing right now if we suggest we support a no caching environment |
| 13:29 |
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fridolin |
suceeeeeessss |
| 13:29 |
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ashimema |
Huh |
| 13:34 |
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Joubu |
s/is/if # sloooowwww today! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #145: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/145/ |
| 13:37 |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Testing Bug 21993, is it normal that I get a 404 error for /cgi-bin/koha/members/apikeys.pl ? |
| 13:37 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21993 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Be userfriendly when the CSRF token is wrong |
| 13:38 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: turn on the pref |
| 13:39 |
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Joubu |
search for "key", cannot remember the name exactly (and not on master right now) |
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Joubu |
sorry wahanui |
| 13:39 |
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Joubu |
wahanui: Sorry! |
| 13:39 |
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wahanui |
Joubu: huh? |
| 13:39 |
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oleonard |
RESTOAuth2ClientCredentials ? |
| 13:40 |
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Joubu |
nope |
| 13:41 |
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oleonard |
Interesting... I gets rid of the 404 :D |
| 13:42 |
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Joubu |
yes! |
| 13:42 |
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Joubu |
indeed that was the one |
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Archie^ |
is it possible to just delete whole bibliographic records like it does during bulkmarcimport.pl -d ? |
| 14:00 |
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kidclamp |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018 |
| 14:00 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed Dec 19 14:00:50 2018 UTC. The chair is kidclamp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:00 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:00 |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:00 |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_19_december_2018' |
| 14:00 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Introductions |
| 14:00 |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize - PTFS Europe, UK |
| 14:01 |
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kidclamp |
#info Nick Clemens, ByWaterSolutions |
| 14:01 |
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kidclamp |
HI all! Meeting time |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
hi kidclamp |
| 14:01 |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
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Joubu |
qa_team? |
| 14:02 |
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Joubu |
huginn: qa_team? |
| 14:02 |
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huginn |
Joubu: I suck |
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Joubu |
qa_team is cait alex_a jajm khall josef_moravec ashimema Joubu marcelr tcohen rangi |
| 14:03 |
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fridolin |
#info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, Cheeseland |
| 14:04 |
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blou |
#info Philippe Blouin, inLibro, Québec |
| 14:05 |
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jajm |
#info Julian Maurice, BibLibre |
| 14:05 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Announcements |
| 14:05 |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:06 |
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kidclamp |
Anyone? |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
Release Day imminent |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
we'll be releases early this maint cycle (to give drojf a chance to package without eating into xmas) |
| 14:06 |
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ashimema |
20th (tomorrow) is the day |
| 14:08 |
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fridolin |
dev should know about Bug 21955 |
| 14:08 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21955 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Cache::Memory should not be used as L2 cache |
| 14:09 |
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fridolin |
it was a very ugly bug when enableing plack ;) |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
probably worth highlighting it at the top of the release notes for each maint release |
| 14:10 |
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Joubu |
devs know already, I sent an email to the list ;) |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
more for admins I'm thinking.. to make sure they double check their config for memcached is setup proper |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 14:11 |
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ashimema |
anywho.. moving on? |
| 14:11 |
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kidclamp |
#info Release for stable a bit early to avoid christmas rush |
| 14:12 |
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kidclamp |
#info admins should review their memcached config in light of bug 21955 |
| 14:12 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Update from the Release manager (19.05) |
| 14:12 |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release manager (19.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:12 |
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kidclamp |
I will push some bugs today to give time for release, next week will begin pushing enhancements again |
| 14:12 |
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Joubu |
#info Double check the memcached config on the Koha's about page |
| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
awesome |
| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
kidclamp++ |
| 14:14 |
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kidclamp |
Would like to see movement on ES bugs and Mana and other big things, but lots of work has been done and things seem good, thank you all for work on last release |
| 14:14 |
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kidclamp |
that's it for me |
| 14:15 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
| 14:15 |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
do we have JesseM or Lucas? |
| 14:15 |
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Joubu |
rmaint? |
| 14:15 |
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Joubu |
rmaints? |
| 14:15 |
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wahanui |
rmaints is ashimema and fridolin are the rmaints |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
From me.. we're moving forward nicely.. I'm all up to date on my queue |
| 14:16 |
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fridolin |
17.11.13 will be the 21st |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
oh.. we need to update that :) |
| 14:16 |
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JesseM |
I am here |
| 14:16 |
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fridolin |
nothing special |
| 14:16 |
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JesseM |
#info Jesse Maseto, BWS |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
anything you want to say about 18.05.x rmaint JesseM? |
| 14:17 |
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Joubu |
rmaints is ashimema (18.11), JesseM and lukeG (18.05), and fridolin (17.11) are the Release Maintainers |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
#info 18.11.01 due for release 20th December, packages to follow soon after |
| 14:17 |
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JesseM |
Yes. rmaint is not easy. :) |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
#info 17.11.13 due for release 21st December, packages to follow soon after |
| 14:17 |
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JesseM |
But we're learning. Thank you all for your help |
| 14:18 |
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kidclamp |
#chair ashimema |
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huginn |
Current chairs: ashimema kidclamp |
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kidclamp |
#chair Joubu |
| 14:18 |
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huginn |
Current chairs: Joubu ashimema kidclamp |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
#info 18.05.x new rmaints are learning fast :) |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
ops |
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ashimema |
oops |
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ashimema |
good luck on your first release guys :) |
| 14:19 |
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kidclamp |
anything else? |
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JesseM |
Thanks |
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fridolin |
i'm good |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
all good from me too |
| 14:20 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
cait sends her apologies.. she's out giving blood |
| 14:20 |
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ashimema |
cait++ |
| 14:21 |
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ashimema |
from cait: |
| 14:21 |
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ashimema |
same team, same work... bit slow because of holidays |
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Joubu |
#info NQA queue is quite big but nothing critical |
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ashimema |
so... generally QA is going well.. the regular qa team mailer is going out weekly |
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Joubu |
lot of new ft and enh |
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ashimema |
quiet for the holidays but will pickup in the new year and we'll get back on track |
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Joubu |
3 maj however, would be good to see them processed |
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* ashimema |
will try to jump on those this evening if no-one else beats him to it |
| 14:23 |
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kidclamp |
ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
that's probably it for qa update |
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ashimema |
cait didn't leave me any other messages |
| 14:23 |
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kidclamp |
#topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:24 |
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ashimema |
I'm trialing the use of a kanban view for our bugzilla.. but I've not really used it enough yet to promote it |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ity.org/bugzilla3 |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
think we may need to tidy up our bugzilla status's a bit (as proposed in a previous meeting) before itll become especially helpful |
| 14:26 |
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ashimema |
nothing else from me.. |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #129: SUCCESS in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/129/ |
| 14:26 |
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Joubu |
I told it yesterday already: IMO the big issue of that tool is that it only supports bug reports |
| 14:27 |
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Joubu |
which will limit its utility |
| 14:27 |
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ashimema |
perhaps.. but then perhaps we could start using bz to track more than just bugs.. |
| 14:28 |
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Joubu |
I would be happy to help improving it if needed, but it will not answer my needs |
| 14:28 |
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ashimema |
as i said.. early thoughts at the moment.. and I wanted to catch you in particular to see what your goals are ;) |
| 14:28 |
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Joubu |
we move our side-projects to gitlab, and ask people to open issues there :) |
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Joubu |
moved* |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
kidclamp has some ideas for the new year too I believe |
| 14:29 |
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ashimema |
? |
| 14:29 |
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kidclamp |
I am looking at things, hoping to find a good path |
| 14:29 |
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kidclamp |
but nothing to share at the moment |
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| 14:30 |
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Joubu |
I would like to highlight: |
| 14:30 |
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Joubu |
We need opinions, remarks, counter-patches, etc. on bug 21610. That's a big changes that need to see approved/rejected by the dev team. It also blocks the implementation of bug 21761. |
| 14:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21610 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Koha::Object->store needs to handle incorrect values |
| 14:30 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21761 critical, P1 - high, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Koha::Object supports passing through 'update' which means we can side step 'set' + 'store' |
| 14:31 |
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ashimema |
I intend to pick back up on that one over xmas when heopfully I have a bit less on my plate |
| 14:31 |
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ashimema |
need a clear head to contemplate it |
| 14:32 |
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Joubu |
#info We need opinions, remarks, counter-patches, etc. on bug 21610. That's a big changes that need to see approved/rejected by the dev team. It also blocks the implementation of bug 21761. |
| 14:32 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, visiting California |
| 14:33 |
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ashimema |
I also seek agreement to bug 22026 |
| 14:33 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22026 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Remove `use Modern::Perl` from Koha::REST::classes |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
and adding a corresponding guidline to allow through qa in this case (as right now we require Modern::Perl I believe) |
| 14:35 |
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Joubu |
"we limit ourselves to supporting perl 5.10" hum? |
| 14:35 |
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ashimema |
it's right there on the about page |
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| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
we require 5.10.. with conversely means we're commited to supporting back to 5.10 |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
and as such we can't use any features introduced since 5.10 ;) |
| 14:36 |
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Joubu |
5.20 since 2 y |
| 14:36 |
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* ashimema |
would love that to change too |
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cait |
meeting over? |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
hi cait |
| 14:36 |
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kidclamp |
not yet :-) |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
nope.. still on |
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cait |
sorry for being late |
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cait |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
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cait |
Release notes state Perl 5.10 is required |
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ashimema |
that's where I saw it |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
not the about page |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
I knew I'd picked it out from somewhere |
| 14:38 |
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ashimema |
so you say we made the decision to up to 5.20 2y back did we Joubu |
| 14:38 |
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cait |
#link https://koha-community.org/koha-18-11-release/ Perl version requirement |
| 14:38 |
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ashimema |
we should update the release-tools template to state that :) |
| 14:39 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: actually we did not, the patch has been reverted |
| 14:39 |
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Joubu |
I was refering to bug 20104 |
| 14:39 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20104 trivial, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, CLOSED INVALID, Update minimum version of Perl to 5.20 because of caller() |
| 14:40 |
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ashimema |
5.20 is a safe bet these days.. don't know of any distros older than that |
| 14:40 |
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Joubu |
and koha-devel topic "Koha now requires Perl 5.20" from April 2018 |
| 14:41 |
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thd |
What version of Perl is in Long Term Stable? |
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Joubu |
all the info is on the koha-devel topic |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
so.. 5.20.2 |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
for LTS thd |
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thd |
Good :) |
| 14:42 |
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Joubu |
we can move on and continue the discussion on the bug report, or ML thread |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
so yeah.. if we decided that we should update the release tools (I can do that) |
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ashimema |
but either way.. as we're using Mojo::Base in all REST classes then we don't need the extra noise of Modern::Perl as Mojo::Base turns on all the same pragmas |
| 14:43 |
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kidclamp |
okay, moving on, will you send an email ashimema ? |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
sure |
| 14:44 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Review of coding guidelines |
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Topic for #koha is now Review of coding guidelines (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
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ashimema |
moing on |
| 14:44 |
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kidclamp |
moo |
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kidclamp |
:-) |
| 14:46 |
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kidclamp |
I don't think we have anything in guidelines to review? |
| 14:46 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 14:47 |
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kidclamp |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
| 14:47 |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 19 December 2018) |
| 14:48 |
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kidclamp |
January 9 2019, 20 UTC? |
| 14:48 |
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kidclamp |
three weeks because of new year |
| 14:48 |
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kidclamp |
oh, that is general meeting |
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kidclamp |
16th? |
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ashimema |
+1 |
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cait |
works for me |
| 14:49 |
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ashimema |
before or after works for me |
| 14:50 |
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ashimema |
before would work better |
| 14:50 |
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kidclamp |
#info Next meeting: 16 January 2019, 20 UTC |
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ashimema |
do 19 UTC? |
| 14:50 |
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kidclamp |
heh, sorry |
| 14:50 |
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ashimema |
sory.. |
| 14:50 |
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* ashimema |
got confused |
| 14:52 |
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Joubu |
#info Next meeting: 16 January 2019, 19 UTC |
| 14:52 |
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Joubu |
end? |
| 14:52 |
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kidclamp |
#endmeeting |
| 14:52 |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
| 14:52 |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed Dec 19 14:52:58 2018 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 14:52 |
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huginn |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-12-19-14.00.html |
| 14:52 |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]8-12-19-14.00.txt |
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huginn |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]19-14.00.log.html |
| 14:53 |
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kidclamp |
can you fix the time like that joubu? I thought the script got confused? |
| 14:53 |
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Joubu |
it will pick the last one |
| 14:53 |
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ashimema |
awsome |
| 14:53 |
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ashimema |
thanks all |
| 14:54 |
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ashimema |
just in time for me to do the school run :) |
| 14:56 |
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kidclamp |
thanks all! |
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cait |
Joubu: did you see yesterday's web installer bugß |
| 15:11 |
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cait |
? |
| 15:12 |
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cait |
Bug 22024 |
| 15:12 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22024 major, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Update translated web installer files with new class splitting rules |
| 15:12 |
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thd |
Joubu, ashimema: Have you considered the possibility of having each tool do what it is best at and integrate between them allowing bugs to be added to bugzilla and integrated with taigo automatically? |
| 15:12 |
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thd |
https://tree.taiga.io/support/[…]rations/webhooks/ |
| 15:13 |
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Joubu |
cait: yes, it's on my list |
| 15:13 |
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cait |
ok thx! |
| 15:13 |
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cait |
i was hoping we could push it to 18.11.1 till, but not sure if that#s realisitc |
| 15:14 |
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cait |
... and I can't type toda |
| 15:14 |
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cait |
y |
| 15:14 |
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Joubu |
thd: I wrote a script to update the kanban depending on the bz statuses |
| 15:14 |
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thd |
Very good :) |
| 15:15 |
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Joubu |
https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]m-1711/wiki/about - "The status (column) of cards representing a bug from bugzilla (starts with "Bug 12345") will be updated automatically." |
| 15:15 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=12345 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Can't Clear Reading History for Anonymous patron |
| 15:24 |
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thd |
Joubu: Beware of people developing gitlab currently using an open core model where some features remain proprietary. |
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fridolin |
JesseM: You must say you reverted on Bug 21905 |
| 15:39 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21905 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Plugin hook intranet_catalog_biblio_enhancements_toolbar_button incorrectly filtered |
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reiveune |
bye |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #143: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/143/ |
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koha-jenkins |
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oleonard |
I managed to miss the meeting without getting all the things assigned to me? |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #146: STILL UNSTABLE in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/146/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #130: SUCCESS in 31 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/130/ |
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Nemo_bis |
kohaputti: create_analytical_rel.pl |
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Joubu |
thd: I do not see why/how it could be a problem for us |
| 18:24 |
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JesseM |
Joubu: Are you fixing memcached on Jenkins? |
| 18:26 |
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Joubu |
JesseM: more or less. I did a PR on koha-testing-docker, it needs to be merged |
| 18:26 |
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Joubu |
JesseM: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]docker/issues/103 # This is the issue to track |
| 18:27 |
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Joubu |
JesseM: did you break everything again? |
| 18:27 |
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Joubu |
;) |
| 18:27 |
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JesseM |
I hope not |
| 18:32 |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Could you please add a test plan to Bug 21987? |
| 18:32 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21987 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Local cover 'thumbnail' size is bigger than 'imagefile' size in biblioimages table |
| 18:34 |
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Joubu |
I wanted Andreas to confirm it fixes his issue. But I can provide a test plan, yes |
| 18:41 |
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rangi |
ashimema: you about? |
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Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/147/ |
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Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #147: STILL UNSTABLE in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/147/ |
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ashimema |
Just reading bedtime stories.. be back in a few minutes |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi and ashimema's kids |
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ashimema |
Millie says hi back |
| 19:02 |
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ashimema |
As does Alice all the way from wonderland |
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rangi |
:) |
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ashimema |
Fire away 😀, girls are now happily in bed looking forward to seeing about the mad world's in Alice's head.. amazing that both my 3 year old and my 9 year old like those stories |
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ashimema |
Dreaming.. even |
| 19:09 |
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rangi |
oh nothing important was just saying i got the spaces working in the kanban i escape them to __ on the way in, and back out on the way back out |
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ashimema |
Oh cool, well done and thanks |
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ashimema |
Hoping to have a bit more time over Xmas to really consider how I wanted to promote and use it as a tool |
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ashimema |
And get Joubu's thoughts on what we might want to do to improve collaboration/communication otherwise |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #144: STILL UNSTABLE in 32 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/144/ |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Unfortunately I can't reproduce the problem described in Bug 21987 |
| 19:40 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21987 normal, P3, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Local cover 'thumbnail' size is bigger than 'imagefile' size in biblioimages table |
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oleonard |
(as far as I can tell?) |
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Joubu |
oleonard: iirc I recreated with koha-logo.png |
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Joubu |
nope |
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oleonard |
I'll try again tomorrow. Bye all |
| 19:59 |
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Joubu |
yep, confirmed with koha-logo.png: |
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Joubu |
MariaDB [koha_kohadev]> select length(imagefile), length(thumbnail) from biblioimages; |
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Joubu |
+-------------------+-------------------+ |
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Joubu |
| length(imagefile) | length(thumbnail) | |
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Joubu |
+-------------------+-------------------+ |
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Joubu |
| 2433 | 11764 | |
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Joubu |
+-------------------+-------------------+ |
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TGoat |
hello koha channel |
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TGoat |
hey, can anyone tell the name of the PlayStore Koha app? |
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TGoat |
the app for devices |
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TGoat |
I think it was Katico?? |
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kidclamp |
bug 8426 would be cool to have |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8426 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle.m.hall, Needs Signoff , Diacritics not being mapped for searching (Non-ICU) |
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caroline |
good night! |
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