IRC log for #koha, 2018-12-07

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00:00 rangi first thing they always do is blame everything except themselves
00:04 CrispyBran I am annoyed with reset_all :/
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06:42 fridolin hi
06:42 wahanui niihau, fridolin
06:42 fridolin yamaha wahanui
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07:42 reiveune hello
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07:51 alex_a bonjour
07:51 wahanui hi, alex_a
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08:04 * andreashm waves
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08:21 magnuse \o/
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08:30 dersmon is somewhere here who could check if i am right about a bug? or should i just create a report?
08:31 magnuse dersmon: nothing wrong about creating a bug report
08:32 dersmon ok
08:32 magnuse if it isn't a bug after all we can just close ut
08:32 magnuse *it
08:33 dersmon ok
08:39 josef_moravec hello #koha
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08:52 magnuse hiya josef_moravec paul_p cait
08:52 * cait waves
09:01 cait not really here until after christmas ;)
09:01 ere cait: hi cait-not-here
09:02 cait hi ere :)
09:02 cait how's things?
09:03 ere cait: Not bad :) There's always something to fix, but hey, not running out of work to do can be considered good too :)
09:03 cait :)
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09:03 ere cait: How about you? Are you on Holiday or just otherwise not here?
09:04 cait on holiday until after christmas
09:04 ere ok
09:04 ere so you can't just stay away? :D
09:04 paxed @wunder joensuu
09:04 cait not really :)
09:04 huginn paxed: Joensuu, Finland :: Mostly Cloudy :: 27F/-3C | Wind Chill: 17F/-8C | Friday: Cloudy with snow developing late. High 28F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 60%. Friday Night: Cloudy. Snow likely late. Low around 25F. Winds SSE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 40%.
09:05 cait but I do try to do some non-Koha things too
09:05 ere cait: Hope you enjoy your holiday, that's the most important part!
09:05 cait so far, it's pretty great
09:06 cait watching my dad decorating christmas cookies
09:06 ere cait: \o/
09:07 cait :)
09:15 andreashm hi ere & cait
09:16 cait hi andreashm :)
09:23 ere hi andreashm
09:24 cait ashimema: around?
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09:29 ashimema am now
09:32 ashimema though will be multi-tasking as I'm now in my morning meeting
09:39 dersmon i filed the bug: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21972
09:39 huginn Bug 21972: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Record matching rule for authorities only works for first 20 authority records
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09:47 cait ashimema: i am tryin gto make the faq page on the website go away (moved everything good to manual) - but it keeps reappearing
09:47 cait maybe if you have a minute later you can take a look?
09:47 ashimema sure
09:47 cait it's gone... i switch pages and then it shows up in navigation again
09:48 ashimema looks like it's a wordpress plugin
09:48 cait i know, it's also a page
09:49 cait the code for display was in the page, i removed that, and trying to hide the page
09:49 cait[…]t=320&action=edit
09:51 ashimema Private: FAQ
09:51 ashimema does the 'Private' perhaps signify it's there but not published
09:52 ashimema yeah.. logout and I can't see it
09:52 ashimema where was it in the navigation ?
09:53 ashimema under documentation right?
09:53 ashimema I certainly can't see it when not logged in
09:53 cait hm i can stil see it
09:53 cait try switching to another page pleas
09:53 ashimema I can use the google search to find it.. but then if I attempt to go to the page it redirects to the home page
09:53 cait i tried archived first... the private is my second attempt
09:53 cait still shows for me here
09:54 cait after several reloads
09:54 ashimema oh..
09:54 ashimema I see now
09:54 ashimema how strange
09:54 cait yah :(
09:56 ashimema I've gone through and selected the 'clear the cache' option on each page.. for me that seems to have done the trick
09:56 ashimema think there was some serverside caching going on
09:56 cait aah
09:56 cait where is that?
09:56 wahanui that is wrong - it's about 1/2 that (about 8C) + raining!
09:56 ashimema still seeing the issue cait?
09:57 ashimema when logged in.. go to the site
09:57 ashimema you'll still have the 'admin bar' at the top.. the far right option of the left menu is 'Delete Cache'
09:57 ashimema I presumed it cleared all of it.. but it looks like it's page specific
09:58 ashimema so I just clicked through each of the top level pages in our menu and did the 'Delete Cache' from there
10:00 ashimema and a general cait++ is needed for all the work you're doing tidying up the docs and websites :)
10:00 ashimema @karma cait
10:00 huginn ashimema: Karma for "cait" has been increased 646 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 646.
10:02 magnuse cait++ yeah!
10:02 magnuse @karma
10:02 huginn magnuse: Highest karma: "Joubu" (726), "cait" (647), and "tcohen" (380).  Lowest karma: "-" (-44), "failed" (-40), and "ie" (-38).  You (magnuse) are ranked 15 out of 894.
10:02 ashimema @karma magnuse
10:02 huginn ashimema: Karma for "magnuse" has been increased 115 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 115.
10:02 * magnuse blushes
10:06 cait sorry, got a phone call, reading back now
10:17 cait ashimema++
10:18 cait i think it works now, everyone who still sees an faq appear somewhere, please let me know :)
10:18 cait outside of the manual
10:18 cait bbiab :)
10:46 cait back
10:49 cait fridolin: is the patch on bug 21560 right? becuase it talks about notices but bug is for reports
10:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21560 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Optimize ODS export option for reports
10:50 fridolin cait: yep i should rename bug report
10:50 fridolin maybe just Optimize ODS export
10:50 cait ok :)
10:51 fridolin Bug 21560
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11:54 josef_moravec bug 21560
11:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21560 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Optimize ODS exports
12:12 cait bbl :)
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12:34 oleonard Yo
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12:47 fridolin oleonard: we found you where there at the begining of www
12:47 fridolin
12:47 fridolin when we saw a patch with CSS : ol.class
12:47 fridolin ^^
12:48 oleonard ??
12:56 Joubu Hi #koha
12:56 Joubu ere: did you see bug 21675, last comment?
12:56 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21675 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, REOPENED , Unable to add to a basket with ElasticSearch enabled
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13:04 ere Joubu: Yes, but I've had no chance to check it out. No idea why Sniff wouldn't work, but it might make sense to make it configurable. The 20 records issue could be a general problem with how many candidates are processed.
13:07 Joubu ere: the doc says "The Sniff connection pool should be used when you do have direct access to the Elasticsearch cluster, eg when your web servers and Elasticsearch servers are on the same network."
13:07 Joubu the comment says they are using the Amazon Elastic cluster
13:09 kohaputti Joubu, hmm, just a random thing to try: downgrade Search::Elasticsearch to 5.02
13:10 ere Joubu: Right, so definitely needs to be configurable
13:18 Joubu I have reported it on bug 21974
13:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21974 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , cxn_pool must be configurable
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13:30 Joubu @later tell marcelr I would prefer to talk with you here, on IRC, instead of through bugzilla comments ;)
13:30 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:32 Joubu @later tell marcelr bug 21971 comment 4 - we are talking about tests, that are already existing, I am not creating new code but removing duplication instead. I agree it's not the best wording, but nothing else has been suggesting
13:32 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:33 Joubu @later tell marcelr When I disagree on something I usually try to suggest something else, to not block the patches
13:33 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:33 Joubu not sure laters are better...
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13:39 caroline hello everyone!
13:39 * oleonard wonders why the expiration date of a hold can't be edited after it has been placed
13:43 caroline Isn't the expiration date for the patron to let the library know they don't need this item after this date?
13:43 caroline If the patron's circumstances change, they might need to change the expiration date
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13:46 Archie^ Hi all!
13:47 caroline Hi Archie^!
13:50 Archie^ Hey, so im in the middle of migrating Patrons to koha, and the library FROM which the migration occures has no "home library". I was wondering is there a way to set patron to multiple branches in Koha?
13:50 caroline Archie^: unfortunately, no
13:50 caroline only 1 library per user
13:51 Archie^ ok, but if i have a homebranch, will i be able to checkout books from a different library?
13:51 caroline however, it is possible for users to go to any library
13:51 caroline yes :)
13:51 Archie^ ok, so it's not a big deal then
13:51 caroline Usually the homebranch is the branch where they registered at
13:52 caroline test it before though, because some system preferences may prevent users from loaning out items from other libraries
13:52 Archie^ next question. Im confused as of what is patron lists and patron groups. The library i migrate from have classes like (childern in classes from 1 to 4) etc what should i use in this context
13:52 caroline patron groups?
13:53 caroline do you mean patron categories?
13:53 Archie^ clubs, sorry
13:53 Archie^ lists and clubs
13:53 Archie^ in tools section
13:53 caroline Oh clubs! Those are for like reading clubs and such
13:53 Archie^ also this library has some weird system as you can set a patron as a "teacher" category and they will be able to check out book for 360 days while students can checkout for 1 month etc
13:54 caroline then teacher and student would be patron categories and you can set specific circulation rules for them
13:54 caroline patron lists are mostly used to make bulk changes
13:55 Archie^ basically the checkout duration is HIGHLY configurable and they are pressing on keeping this functionality but AFAK koha has that during installation (they also have the duration confugrated from library to library etc) is it possible in koha?
13:55 caroline yes
13:55 caroline in the circulation rules, you can set rules per patron category, item type and library
13:56 caroline there is also a system preference to let the staff override limits
13:59 Archie^ wait, where can i modify categories?
14:00 caroline Administration > Patron categories
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14:01 oleonard Hi cait
14:05 Joubu ere: about your answer on the Cache::Memory thread: did you notice that we already have a L1 cache (in memory)?
14:05 Joubu it is flushed for each request indeed, but there is one :)
14:06 Joubu I am not sure to understand how Cache::Memory can be more useful than that if plack is not running
14:06 cait hi all
14:07 caroline hi cait!
14:07 cait Joubu: bug 21494 - i believe it's a regression, but it came as a change on update from 16.11 to 17.11... so it might be a while
14:07 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21494 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , No checkin notice created for offline circulation checkins
14:08 cait they said they were relying on it and noticed pretty soon after the update
14:08 cait hi caroline :)
14:08 Joubu cait: Hi cait, I do not think it is, ProcessOfflineReturn is the same on 16.11.x
14:09 cait we changed the routines for sending the emails because of the runtime conditions
14:09 cait could ti be related to those changes?
14:09 Joubu runtime conditions?
14:09 cait remember, the checkin notices were not send right
14:09 cait becasue the checkouts were too fast
14:09 cait :)
14:09 Joubu the race conditions?
14:09 cait oh yes, sorry
14:10 cait wrong wrod
14:10 ere Joubu: Oh, I probably mixed up the two in my head!
14:10 Joubu nope, the thing is that CHECKIN is generated from AddReturn, which is never called on ProcessOfflineReturn
14:10 ere Joubu: Sorry about that..
14:10 Joubu ere: no worries, I wanted to make sure I did not miss something
14:11 cait Joubu: hm can't test right now, so hard to verify
14:11 cait i think it shoud send the emails tho
14:11 ere Joubu: I didn't check to code but relied on memory. My memory. Bad idea.
14:11 cait especially for the offline circs
14:12 Joubu ere: the problem is that Cache::Memory was used as L2 cache, but L2 cache not shared and not flushed is not a good idea if there are several workers :)
14:13 Joubu we have a L1 cac, in memory (so per worker), Koha::Cache::Memory::Lite, that is flushed correctly when a new request is made
14:13 Joubu cache*
14:14 Archie^ hey a quick qustion. Let's say i came to this place in the middle of the project and i have to koha-shell [instance] and i dont know what instances were made when i came here... how would one find out the name of instance? :D
14:14 Joubu cait: yes it should, especially because CHECKOUT are sent!
14:14 cait Joubu: inconsistency--
14:14 Joubu cait: but not easy to fix. I do not understand why we do not call AddReturn from there
14:15 cait could it have to do with holds?
14:15 cait thinking about it i am not sure what happens if you return an item that should trigger a hold
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14:15 oleonard Archie^: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]e_Debian_packages
14:15 oleonard Archie^: I think koha-list is what you want
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14:19 cait jajm: thx for bug 21961 :)
14:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21961 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Typo in permission keeps Did you mean? config from showing up
14:19 cait pqa?
14:20 jajm cait, yes, i just wanted to add a note before changing status ;)
14:20 cait ah, cool
14:20 cait hope i didn't miss more
14:23 cait jajm: ah!
14:23 cait we can have kidclamp decide :)
14:23 cait i just noticed that hte patrons were also added with the wrong code, didn't check the FK :)
14:25 Archie^ a shit it asks for password :@
14:26 jajm cait, it is probably safer to have both queries anyway, for instance if for any reason FK are disabled during the updatedb
14:27 Archie^ oleonard:  what's the point of koha-reset-passwd instancename username if it asks the same password for the same instance
14:32 dersmon quick question regarding: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21972 - is it possible to check for two subfields in 1 matching point in a matching rule?
14:32 huginn Bug 21972: major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Record matching rule for authorities only works for first 20 authority records
14:32 dersmon that would be a workaround for my problem
14:34 Joubu Archie^: koha-reset-passwd does not ask anything, it regenerates a password for a given patron
14:34 Joubu % sudo koha-reset-passwd kohadev koha
14:34 Joubu koha teiph2Ikooqu
14:36 Archie^ i have never been so confused in my entire life. I'll try this, thank you!
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15:42 cait caroline: i am updating hte circulation conditions chapter today
15:42 cait some of the options were missing
15:42 cait i don#t have all the bug numbers, should I look for them?
15:43 caroline cait: no don't worry about that
15:43 cait o
15:43 cait k
15:43 caroline Just compare what's in Koha with what's in the manual
15:43 cait i tihnk some were really old, like the third option for on shelf holds
15:43 cait at least 17.11
15:43 cait ok, working on that :)
15:43 caroline cait: thx! cait++
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17:02 cait caroline_lunch: first patch is up :)
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17:41 cait should there be a comma after hold?
17:41 cait efault checkout, hold and return policy
17:41 cait Default checkout, hold and return policy
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17:43 cait Margaret:  will know!
17:43 cait efault checkout, hold and return policy
17:43 cait should there be a comma after hold?
17:43 Margaret Hi,
17:44 cait hm was just googling it and it says it's a stylistic thing
17:44 Margaret so are you looking for "default checkout, hold, and return policy" that would be the way i'd phrase it it if you are talking about 3 separate things
17:45 Margaret but I like oxford commas.
17:45 cait :)
17:47 cait how are you doing?
17:50 oleonard oxford_commas++
17:53 cait if the and was an or... would i still comma?
17:53 * cait thinks more native speakers needed to write for hte manual :)
17:55 oleonard "Default checkout, hold, or return policy" Yes.
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17:55 coyas hello koha world
18:00 cait oleonard: thx!
18:00 cait oleonard++ Margaret++
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18:02 * Margaret would like to write for the manual, once I free us some mental space...
18:03 Margaret cait++
18:03 Margaret for trying to parse english grammar.
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18:12 coyas always that i install koha the port 80 from apache is deactivated, why? how can i put it online again?
18:51 cait caroline++ :)
18:57 cait caroline: can i put multiple taiga things in one merge request?
18:57 cait i can... but is that ok for you?
18:57 caroline sure
18:57 cait cool
18:57 caroline maybe different commits?
18:57 cait i tihnk there are some rather small fixes in the enh
18:57 cait yep
18:57 cait i will make different commits, but push them up at once
18:58 caroline sure no problem
19:07 cait looking at column config next :)
19:11 cait hm do we want a list of the tables you can change in column configuration?
19:11 cait the names don't translate, it might be helpful for some
19:12 cait but more to maintain
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19:29 oleonard Bye all. Keep your fingers crossed for a visit from the signoff fairy over the weekend!
19:29 cait caroline:  ^ :)
19:30 caroline cait: sorry I was on the phone
19:30 caroline There are bugs for each new table added, so we could add them
19:31 caroline the release notes/bugs will keep us updated to what was added
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19:31 cait ok, i will try if i can figure out how to format it nicely .)
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19:33 caroline cait: if it's too complicated, don't worry about it
19:34 cait still learning the syntax, it's good
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20:14 coyas ll
20:15 cait caroline: i tihnk I am giving up on the table idea :)
20:17 caroline :) did you think of a reason not to, or it's just getting too complcated?
20:17 cait hm i justthought about another way
20:17 cait i will make something and let you decide :)
20:26 caroline wth does that mean "Illegal mix of collations (utf8_unicode_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,IMPLICIT) for operation '='"?
20:29 caroline A school system asked for a list of series/collections with titles per school. Of course, series and collections are separated between 440 and 490... -_-
20:29 caroline wondering if I can do this without going through a report
20:36 cait i had that happen
20:36 cait let me think
20:36 cait i think i ended up doing a CAST()
20:37 cait are you doing a concat?
20:37 cait want to share the full sql?
20:37 caroline no I'm doing a union, but right now trying to see if I can work out a concat
20:37 cait ah
20:37 cait i think the thing is that the type of the things in the same column doesn't match
20:38 cait so if you have second column an integer in the first is has to be integer in the second part too
20:38 cait or it complains
20:38 cait i wonder why they collate differently... but that's another question
20:39 pastebot "caroline" at pasted "collections with titles (try 1: only 440)" (16 lines) at
20:40 pastebot "caroline" at pasted "collections with titles (try 2: only 490)" (16 lines) at
20:40 caroline (I just changed all the 440s to 490s in that 2nd try)
20:40 cait does one of htem work already?
20:41 caroline yes, those two work
20:41 indradg_ I´m trying to profile catalogue/ Running into this when Iḿ trying to generate the report - - ¨NYTProf data format error while reading header at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/per​l5/5.20/Devel/NYTProf/ line 87.
20:41 indradg_ ¨
20:41 cait ah cool
20:41 cait ah
20:41 cait you want to union them?
20:41 caroline Now I want to merge the two so the librarians don't have to do two reports
20:42 caroline either by union or concat
20:43 caroline As long as I can order by that first column (which I'm not sure how to do, I've never been able to work out aliases)
20:43 cait hmmm sec
20:45 pastebot "caroline" at pasted "collections with titles (try 3: 440 union 490)" (31 lines) at
20:45 caroline this one is the one giving me the collation thing
20:45 cait hm
20:46 cait i don't get the collate problem, not sure why
20:46 cait maybe a db issue
20:46 caroline (in French collation is a snack, and right now it is almost 4pm, a snack would be good)
20:46 cait hehe
20:46 cait this seems ok for me on the sample db data:
20:46 kidclamp the collation issue is because of the use of 'parameters' the @Branch :=
20:47 caroline kidclamp: it was my next try, thanks!
20:48 cait but some results are missing
20:48 caroline cait: you don't have branches in that query
20:48 cait oh!
20:48 cait yeah right
20:48 cait i killed them because was testing in workbench
20:48 cait caroline: which verion are you testing this on?
20:48 cait you might not need the variable thing
20:48 kidclamp ( @EndDate := <<End date|date>> COLLATE utf8_unicode_ci )
20:48 kidclamp something like that usually works
20:48 caroline their version is 17.05
20:49 cait hm was fixed 18.05
20:49 cait so you need it
20:49 cait so try what kidclamp says :)
20:49 cait and... mine is missing some entries i think... so maybe not use that
20:49 caroline ok will try that
20:52 caroline half success : not getting the collation error, but also getting less results than before
20:52 cait so strange
20:53 cait try a UNION ALL
20:53 cait not sure why, but that seems to e complate
20:53 cait complete
20:54 caroline success!
20:54 caroline Now the ordering
20:54 cait order by 1
20:55 caroline So I can just tell it to order by the column number? That's handy, I didn't know that
20:55 cait yep
20:55 cait just have to remember to update if you add more columns
20:55 cait i usually forget :)
20:57 caroline thx cait++ and kidclamp++ for your help :)
20:57 cait :)
20:59 cait we're a team:)
21:00 Joubu cait++ caroline++
21:01 Joubu have a great week-end!
21:01 cait you too
21:01 cait !
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22:41 cait caroline: i was thinking about adding more of the enh to taiga - something easy for last today - do you know where we stopped?
22:41 cait or want to do it yourself?
22:41 caroline I haven't gotten to the enhancements yet, I'm still in the new features
22:42 caroline (I'm doing 15 things at a time)
22:42 cait i am on vacation - I can take one thing off
22:42 caroline
22:42 cait :)
22:42 caroline I search for the bug number in taiga
22:42 cait ok
22:43 caroline a lot of them are already there because I tried to follow the release notes updates like Joubu showed me
22:43 cait would enhancements only go into enh or might be elsewhere?
22:43 caroline The last one I looked u was 17282 Ability to create charts for SQL reports
22:44 caroline just put them in enhancements.
22:44 cait ok:)
22:45 caroline I'm thinking for 19.05 to separate by chapter or module, that way, if you're already changing something in admin for example, you can go in and add the other stuff from that chapter
22:45 caroline what do you think?
22:47 cait makes sense
22:47 cait if we separate by chapter
22:48 cait we might also be able to just copy from the release notes
22:48 cait leaving out the module in front?
22:48 cait i was also just wondering - would you mind putting the bug number first?
22:48 caroline no, that's what I started doing
22:48 cait great :)
22:48 caroline module + copy paste the release not title
22:48 cait ok on it
22:49 cait i think new features is complete now - deleted a duplicate one
22:49 caroline cool!
22:50 cait do you add them all or do you sortalready by needed for the manual?
22:50 caroline one less to do haha!
22:50 cait thinkign about things like the about page updates
22:50 caroline If it's obviously not needed for the manual, I don't put it. If I'm not sure I put it anyway and will check later
22:50 cait ok
22:55 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #131: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D9/131/
23:19 cait caroline: it loos like some wrong ubg numbers are in the release notes
23:19 cait [11401] Add support for Norwegian national library card = was actually removed
23:19 cait last chang eon bug is from 2015
23:31 caroline uhoh
23:32 caroline who /how generates the release notes?
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23:36 caroline I have to go, but we'll investigate that. Let me know if you see other bugs that are there but shouldn't
23:37 cait caroline: i tihnk i have added all enh
23:37 caroline ok cool!
23:37 cait caroline: it's a script, but if the commit has the worng number, that could be a reason
23:38 caroline oh! So a commit for another bug would have this bug's number?
23:38 cait the script gets the bug numbers from git and then pull sthe titles/descriptions from bugzilla
23:38 cait so if the dev makes a typo on the commit message, the release notes can be wrong
23:39 caroline Ok I though the release notes were taken from bugzilla when the bug is pushed to master
23:39 cait it could, but i think it would be less accurate
23:39 cait becuase we have so many status changes, bugs reopened etc
23:40 caroline right
23:40 caroline I don't see the git so I don't even think about it
23:41 cait it should not be a big problem
23:41 cait i put a note on the task
23:42 cait go :)
23:42 cait and have a nice weekend :)
23:42 caroline alright, i'm just tired, it's been a long week.... migration monday that didn't 100% well
23:42 cait :( hope it's better now
23:42 caroline have a good weekend you too! :)

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