IRC log for #koha, 2018-11-30

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06:58 fridolin hi
06:58 wahanui hey, fridolin
07:07 calire morning
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08:54 * andreashm waves
09:06 * josef_moravec waves back
09:14 andreashm hi josef_moravec
09:14 andreashm josef_moravec: do you know the status of bug 10662? Is it in QA, or does it need another sign-off?
09:15 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
09:15 * andreashm is confused, as always. =)
09:15 josef_moravec andreashm: i just returned after 2 weeks of, so have to refresh it a bit ;)
09:17 josef_moravec andreashm: i think only follow-ups need sign-off - especially the one with template changes (from Owen)
09:18 josef_moravec then I will want david to write tests and then it could pass qa ;)
09:19 josef_moravec andreashm: there is still problem with db update as I remember, but It is possible to run it if you tweak it (hope I have time to add follow-up soon)
09:24 andreashm josef_moravec: ah ok.
09:25 andreashm I'll se if I can add a sign-off for Owens tamplate changes when I have time
09:25 andreashm (not today or next week most likely)
09:34 andreashm josef_moravec: two weeks off sounds very nice btw! =)
09:35 josef_moravec andreashm: it is ;) but I like to return to work with Koha communityx ;)
09:37 andreashm =)
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12:30 ashimema @seen rangi
12:30 huginn ashimema: rangi was last seen in #koha 2 days, 15 hours, 27 minutes, and 3 seconds ago: <rangi> then there are also just search bots, none of which seem to care about robots.txt files anymore
13:07 cait bywater++ # new sandboxes, so helpful for quickly testing on master
13:08 cait last day before vacation :D
13:09 ashimema gmcharlt: around perhaps?
13:17 andreashm cait: lucky you!
13:19 cait lucky me :)
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13:34 caroline guten morgen!
13:36 calire bonjour caroline
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13:38 Freddy_Enrique Greetings #koha :)
13:38 calire hi Freddy_Enrique
13:41 cait bonjour caroline!
13:42 Freddy_Enrique O.o?
13:43 * Freddy_Enrique didn't know caroline was calire
13:44 caroline Freddy_Enrique: we're not the same, we're clones :)
13:44 calire Freddy_Enrique: caroline said helly just before you
13:44 calire *hello
13:45 * Freddy_Enrique thinks he spent too much time reading the manga section
13:46 Freddy_Enrique I see. Greeting you both :-D
13:46 calire o/
13:50 Freddy_Enrique Yesterday I spent time reading the cron section in manual
13:51 Freddy_Enrique Today this early I tried to use crontab in order to automate my database's backup... but there's something weird
13:52 Freddy_Enrique I read the Koha geek guide to generate backups and  an entry to delete backup files older than five days
13:52 Freddy_Enrique but, it doesn't work
13:53 caroline what sis you put in your crontab?
13:53 Freddy_Enrique the command use to generate backup is the following: 45 16 * * * mysqldump -ukoha_library -pkoha123 koha_library | xz > /home/koha/backup/koha_library-$(date +%d-%m-%Y-%H.%M).sql.xz
13:53 Freddy_Enrique my thought is that the timestamp is not correct, because when I delete it, it works just fine
13:54 Freddy_Enrique What would I need to change there to make it work?
13:56 caroline what I have in my cron is >> /inlibro/logs/crons/cron.`date +\%Y\%m\%d` 2>&1
13:57 caroline that's for the log, but I'm guessing it's probably similar
13:57 Freddy_Enrique whether is ubuntu or debian doesn't change anything right?
13:58 caroline I wouldn't know, anybody else?
14:01 Freddy_Enrique caroline: is it important to have a back up of these directories? usr/share/koha and /etc/koha?
14:01 eythian Freddy_Enrique: you say "doesn't work", but you don't say what that means
14:01 caroline Freddy_Enrique: I don't think those change enough to have an automated backup
14:02 eythian if you installed from packages, there is koha-dump
14:02 Freddy_Enrique eythian: no backup, it just doesnt generate the file
14:03 Freddy_Enrique caroline++
14:03 eythian I'd also check logs for warnings/errors reported when those cron jobs run.
14:03 Freddy_Enrique thanks :)
14:04 eythian /etc/koha is worth backing up as it contains config. It doesn't change a lot, but can do sometimes.
14:05 eythian koha-dump IIRC takes care of that for you
14:07 Freddy_Enrique koha-dump instancename.... Il try this one as well
14:07 Freddy_Enrique eythian++
14:08 caroline thx eythian++
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14:29 gmcharlt ashimema: pnog
14:30 ashimema hello :)
14:30 * cait waves at gmcharlt :)
14:30 cait missed you in Portland!
14:30 ashimema if memory servers you have the magic permissions needed to be able to push a new branch to the community git?
14:30 ashimema we're still in need of the 18.11.x branch.. and I've been struggling to get hold of rangi
14:31 ashimema was hopeing you might be able to do the honors..
14:31 gmcharlt ashimema: happy to - one moment
14:31 gmcharlt ashimema: actually, could you advise what commit on master you want to be the branching off poing?
14:32 gmcharlt *point
14:32 ashimema ta muchly.. also i suppose the branch lockdown probably needs updating to reflect the new roles
14:32 ashimema ec0c6ef4145ff438f1d1a6da6da7616011ae2840
14:33 ashimema think that's the very last commit that got tagged with the 18.11.00 release tag :)
14:33 ashimema that should be the one
14:34 gmcharlt ashimema: thanks
14:48 gmcharlt ashimema: OK, 18.11.x now exists
14:49 ashimema excellent, ta
14:50 ashimema did you get my pm gmcharlt.. wondering if my irc client is playing games with me again
14:51 gmcharlt ashimema: hmm, no; last one in my quassel backlog is our exchange in August
14:51 ashimema odd
14:53 ashimema must be a matrix issue
14:53 ashimema I was just wondering if it might be viable to have a europe timezone person on the git server..
14:54 ashimema but then.. I can usually catch one of you in my afternoon/evening so not really a bit issue
15:11 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #131: STILL UNSTABLE in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_D8/131/
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15:38 koha-jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #131: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_18.05_U18/131/
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16:20 wizzyrea how we doin fam
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17:21 corilynn anyone around familiar with making the kohadevbox drive bigger? Mine is full up
17:21 corilynn last time this happened I ended up starting from scratch :(
17:22 cait corilynn: there are instructions on the wiki
17:22 cait i followe dthem last time, let me find them
17:22 corilynn thx cait
17:22 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]izing_your_devbox
17:22 cait yw
17:23 corilynn oh, i was looking at the :)
17:25 cait i guess we could at least at a link there
17:26 corilynn doh, these directions won't quite work for me, as I'm running everything command line...
17:28 cait hm?
17:28 cait ah - no gui for the virtualbox?
17:29 corilynn right
17:31 cait maybe you could google the equivalents
17:32 corilynn yeah, that's what i'm working on now
17:34 cait fingers crossed
17:34 corilynn well, it wouldn't be the first time I had to start over...
17:37 cait do you have your git repo outside of the devbox?
17:37 cait it's not so bad then
17:37 corilynn i don't think so
17:37 corilynn did I miss instructions on doing that?
17:38 cait look for SYNC_REPO
17:39 corilynn yup, haven't done that
17:41 cait then your git branches and everything are safe when oyu have to destroy
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17:51 ashimema push all your branches to a remote as a backuo
17:51 corilynn I don't have any branches at the moment
17:52 ashimema Oh,
17:52 ashimema How did you fill your disk?
17:52 corilynn it choked on git pull
17:52 ashimema Ah, yeah, our repo is enormous
17:52 corilynn i *have* had branches
17:53 ashimema Try a 'git gc' or 'git clean'
17:53 corilynn well, right now i'm in the middle of the resize
17:53 ashimema GC will clean up gits 'cache'.. at least that's the best I can describe it
17:54 ashimema Okies.
17:54 ashimema Good luck then 😀
17:54 corilynn thx
17:54 corilynn i was hoping to pick back up where i left off... but not so much
18:04 corilynn no love on git gc
18:04 corilynn or git clean -f
18:40 tcohen hi
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19:45 karuson Hi, got a question.  how can i move all options under tabs 1-X in a marc framework, to tab 0?
19:46 karuson Also, how can i rename tab 0?
19:47 corilynn karuson, in the basic cataloging editor?
19:47 karuson Currently I know the long method, of going into each tab subfield edit, is there an en masse method?  When I attempt to edit a csv file and import, it gives an error
19:47 caroline karuson: I've never seen an option to rename the tabs
19:48 karuson @caroilynn, yes.  I would like to consolidate all fields under 1 tab
19:48 huginn karuson: I suck
19:48 corilynn karuson, have you tried the advanced editor?
19:49 karuson new to koha, so i'll ask with a little shame, which advanced editor?
19:49 corilynn no worries, it's kinda my baby at the moment. are you the admin of your koha?
19:50 karuson I am using the admin account at the moment
19:50 corilynn if so, you can go to More->Administration
19:50 corilynn in the Global System Preferences box enter EnableAdvancedCatalogingEditor
19:50 karuson okay
19:50 corilynn set that pref to "Enable"
19:51 karuson okay, its enabled
19:51 corilynn then go back to Cataloging and click the button for "Advanced editor"
19:53 karuson okay, i see it but how does it help with putting all fields into one tab? at the moment it only shows me 7 fields
19:53 corilynn it will show you every field that you have
19:53 corilynn what is your use case?
19:54 karuson books mainly
19:54 karuson there is also A/V
19:55 corilynn I'm looking for the documentation now. Start with searching for a record you want to copy from
19:56 corilynn[…]editor-cataloging
19:57 karuson oh i see
19:57 karuson it would work for records that can be founds
19:57 karuson but what when it is local to my organization
19:57 corilynn it can work with original cataloging too, but there's no "safty net"
19:57 corilynn like in the basic editor
19:58 corilynn you just type in the field # and you are expected to know what you are doing :)
19:58 karuson ah okay, i don't think they will appreciate that, seems i have to do the long method of just going through 1 by 1 and changing managing tab to 0 :(
19:58 corilynn although, it will check against the formatting defined in MARC bibliographic framework settings to verify that your MARC is correct
19:59 corilynn you might still want to show it to them
19:59 karuson lol trying to make their life easier not harder XD
19:59 caroline karuson: what is the error when you try to import the csv?
19:59 caroline Also, which version of koha are you using?
19:59 karuson one sec let me trigger it again
20:00 corilynn karuson, I'm a cataloger first, developer second. I'd much rather use the advanced editor than the basic one $0.02 USD :)
20:00 karuson sandbox version is 16.05, but live version is 18.05
20:00 karuson lol unfortunately i know nothing of cataloguing and the catalogers are quite busy
20:00 caroline I remember I had an import problem in my 16.05 too
20:01 caroline Can you try it on you 18.05?
20:01 caroline *your
20:01 karuson "error importing the framework ***"
20:01 caroline not the most verbose error message I've seen...
20:02 karuson lol i know right XD
20:02 corilynn nor the least, unfortunately
20:03 karuson well, i will be on a waiting game for the admin to come back to his desk to create a 18.05 environment for me to test on
20:03 caroline You can try one of these : https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ailable_Sandboxes
20:04 caroline They are usually up-to-date with the latest version
20:04 karuson oh thanks
20:04 karuson testing
20:06 karuson still didnt work on those
20:06 karuson gave the same error
20:07 caroline :/
20:07 caroline I remember being able to do it
20:07 caroline Or maybe I just did it the long way, and my brain deleted this traumatic event
20:07 karuson yea, as long as i don't put it into excel and save it, it works
20:08 karuson but once i save in excel, even when nothing has been edited, it still does not work
20:08 karuson traumatic event is right lol
20:08 corilynn weird
20:08 karuson yup :/
20:09 corilynn the marc record is in the .csv file?
20:09 karuson yup
20:10 corilynn what created it?
20:10 caroline corilynn: yuo can export marc frameworks in csv and (normally) reimport them
20:10 karuson exported one that was editing in koha, tried changing all tabs to -1, saved and when i tried to import back into the framework (and also a new framework), it gives the error
20:11 karuson yup, when i dont open it in excel and save, it works fine
20:11 corilynn OH THE FRAMEWORK, not the marc file
20:11 karuson it only gives trouble when it passes through excel
20:11 karuson lol yes, my bad
20:12 caroline Excel must do some dark magic to it
20:12 corilynn excel is dark magic
20:12 karuson sigh
20:12 corilynn .csv can be opened with notepad tho
20:13 karuson so no way to change all "managed tabs" to 0, faster
20:13 karuson so change in notepad instead?
20:13 corilynn i mean, it's worth a go...
20:13 karuson okay, will try changing a few and see what happens
20:13 corilynn I'm still trying to figure out how to get the .csv framework file
20:14 corilynn oh, duh, nm
20:14 karuson regular export doesn't work for you, or do you mean something else?
20:14 caroline corilynn: Administration > MARC Frameworks > click Actions > Export
20:14 corilynn thx caroline... i need more coffee?
20:14 caroline hehe!
20:15 corilynn ok, so i'm lookin' at the .csv and you want to change... what tab stuff is on karuson? what field are you changing?
20:16 karuson tab, everything that is not in the "0" tab, i would like to put into the "0" tab
20:17 corilynn what is the field called tho?
20:17 corilynn in the csv
20:17 karuson tab is the column header
20:17 karuson "tab"
20:17 caroline corilynn: there are two "sections" to the csv file, the top is the marc tags, the bottom is the subfields
20:17 caroline the column ins only in the subfield section
20:17 karuson subfields
20:17 caroline if I remember correctly
20:18 karuson yes
20:19 karuson editing the subfield "tab" within the csv file
20:19 corilynn AH
20:19 corilynn well, at least now i'm on the same page :)
20:21 karuson cool :)
20:21 corilynn ok, so it looks like excel takes out the quoted strings
20:22 corilynn that's what the "black magic" is
20:22 caroline corilynn++
20:22 corilynn i *think* there's an option in excel.. stand by
20:23 karuson ohhh....
20:24 corilynn ewww stack overflow says you have to use VBA :(
20:24 karuson well i edited a few fields using notepad++
20:24 corilynn oh wait
20:24 karuson it imported without error, let me see if it moved the field
20:24 corilynn notepad++ is da bomb diggity
20:25 caroline @karma notepad
20:25 huginn caroline: Karma for "notepad" has been increased 8 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 8.
20:26 corilynn ok, karuson, try saving the file as "CSV for MSDOS" and importing that
20:27 karuson okay corilynn
20:30 karuson gives error
20:30 karuson error importing when i do csv for msdos
20:30 corilynn :(
20:30 corilynn sorry I can't help more, my time is up
20:31 corilynn bye #koha
20:31 karuson oh okay, thanks though for all you have done
20:31 karuson :)
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20:57 karuson i'm out and the notepad++ is working out a bit faster than doing it the default way :)
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21:42 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21896: RM follow-up - fix tests <[…]c3b87ecb9bba5258c>
22:07 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:07 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #138: FIXED in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/138/
22:12 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:12 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #625: FIXED in 28 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/625/
22:37 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
22:37 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U18 build #116: FIXED in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/116/
23:14 caroline good weekend #koha!

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