IRC log for #koha, 2018-11-05

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06:57 geffy_pen hi there
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07:21 josef_moravec hi cait
07:22 cait hi josef_moravec :)
07:22 cait just getting ready to head out, will be back in a bit
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07:39 reiveune hello
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07:46 alex_a bonjour
07:52 josef_moravec hi alex_a
08:10 matts hi
08:10 wahanui hello, matts
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08:38 cait morning #koha
08:39 geffy_pen Hello again... I am trying to use the Advance Editor. I have noticed in the leader tag 000, that there is no option for RDA....
08:39 cait which position is that?
08:39 geffy_pen should I choose ISBD instead?
08:39 cait that's different things
08:39 geffy_pen Descriptive cataloging form
08:39 cait which position are you looking at?
08:39 geffy_pen in Tag 000
08:40 cait no rda is correct: http://www.loc.gov/marc/biblio[…]hic/bdleader.html
08:40 cait i think rda is indicated in another field
08:41 geffy_pen okies thanks a lot
08:41 geffy_pen I am a newbie in advance editor
08:41 cait it's a MARC thing
08:41 cait not related to the editor
08:41 cait I think rda goes into 040 $e
08:41 cait http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd040.html
08:42 geffy_pen Yup, in the basic template in cataloging its in 040 $e for RDA...
08:43 geffy_pen I am still a little lost with Advance Editor...
08:43 geffy_pen Thanks for the help!
08:43 cait np
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08:47 fridolin hi there
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08:59 cait hi fridolin
09:02 tuxayo hi #koha o/
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10:49 cait fridolin: why is bug 21353 in 17.11?
10:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21353 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, Merge patrons option only available with manage_patron_lists
10:49 cait merge patrons is 18.05
10:49 fridolin oh
10:49 cait oh reverted, release notes are wrong
10:49 fridolin ah ok
10:50 cait sorry, workingout if we want 17.11.11 :) - currently using 17.11.10
10:50 fridolin release notes script should look at reverts then
10:50 ashimema me is about to embark on getting his rmain queue down again.. expect incoming fridolin.. i'm 220 commits behind :(
10:50 * cait sends cookies
10:50 fridolin woooo
10:50 cait fridolin: i think it's a known bug, shoudl probably file it
10:50 cait for the release notes script
10:50 fridolin ashimema: good luke ;) get coffee and cookies
10:50 ashimema ta :)
10:51 cait fridolin: are you in production with 17.11.11 somewhere?
10:51 * ashimema has been working on release notes script of late.. though not thought about reverts as yet
10:51 ashimema be nice to get that fixed
10:51 fridolin cait: not yet no
10:51 fridolin we use 17.11.09
10:51 cait .10 seems solid
10:52 cait but I made an error backporting something.... so now we have to fix that *hides*
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11:35 ashimema koha:;object pros about?
11:35 cait too early for the argentinian crowd
11:44 ashimema I bugged khall in slack :)
11:44 ashimema found a pretty fundatment issue with them ;)
11:44 cait that's cheating :)
11:45 cait slack
11:45 ashimema you can skip 'store' entirely and it is indeed being skipped in a few places
11:45 ashimema this means that all the code level triggers people are adding to the store method can be skipped ;)
12:00 fridolin ashimema: Bug 21617
12:00 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21617 major, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Pushed to Master , statistics.ccode is not long enough (see also dbrev 18.06.00.032)
12:00 fridolin i have set to major since you can loose statistics datas
12:01 fridolin can you backport soon ?
12:01 ashimema yeah.. it's on my list
12:01 ashimema I have 220 commits to work through today ;)
12:02 cait why are you still talking... start working! ;)
12:03 * cait immediately feels guilty and sends more cookies
12:13 fridolin :D
12:16 ashimema you still here fridolin?
12:17 ashimema what's your thoughts on the whole sql_strict stuff and backports.. I'm thinking the cost required to backport outweighs the benefits in most cases I've come accross so far.
12:17 ashimema bug 21596 is a good example
12:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21596 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , Handle default values when storing Koha::Patron
12:18 ashimema all the chages are at the Koha::Object level.. but ModMember and AddMember being ported to Koha::Patron isn't in our branches.. so basically it's write the patches again from scratch..
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12:30 oleonard Hi all
12:32 kidclamp hi oleonard
12:32 wahanui hi oleopard
12:39 Guest1933 Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #110: UNSTABLE in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.11_D8/110/
12:44 fridolin ashimema: sorry i was on a break
12:44 fridolin i did not look at sql_strict stuff yet
12:44 fridolin for 17.11.x i will try to focus on bugs since its wille soon be the oldoldstable
12:45 fridolin my time on RMaint is short
12:45 ashimema indeed
12:45 ashimema hehe
12:45 ashimema sure thing
12:45 fridolin is it dependent on strech  ?
12:47 ashimema not especially..
12:48 ashimema basically.. we disable  a bunch of strict sql modes up to now.. this patch enables them so that we get errors thrown for bad sql
12:48 ashimema which.. makes allot of koha explode
12:48 ashimema But.. we're only enabling it for dev and test environments for now.. so we can catch issues
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13:24 cait tcohen: ping?
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13:36 tcohen hola
13:37 tcohen hola cait, fridolin
13:37 tcohen what's up?
13:38 cait hola
13:38 wahanui hola, cait
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13:56 caroline bonjour #koha!
13:56 oleonard Hi caroline
13:58 ashimema yeay.. I've not broken my branch yet today
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14:47 oleonard Anyone here know how to query Koha for which patrons are subscribed to a particular notice? (item due, advanced notice, etc)
14:52 cait hm yes
14:52 cait if you can wait a second?
14:54 oleonard Yes, I am not trying to diffuse a ticking time bomb which requires SQL to stop it.
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2fe377077658668f2>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: DBRev 18.06.00.051 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f7523b931c674ecac>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: (RM follow-up) Remove loop.odd reference and fix filters <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4c8dbe8e1c170a409>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21645: Fix focus when modal is shown <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]7ff45905db1d261c7>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21645: e.preventDefault on click <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9c0152fedc1977710>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21650: Remove the subroutine C4::Items::GetLastAcquisitions <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]0c2067b6f20ff00a4>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21645: Clean up library groups template <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]15bf1cb6b39c1221c>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20970: Add preventDefault to avoid trailing # to be added to the url <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]fa8068406b8bee5c8>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 19490: (follow-up) Improve tooltip message and some tidying <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]29a10caedfda984ad>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21568: Add more spans with classes around callnumbers in OPAC for additional... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6d120600054ad2c1e>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: (follow-up) Template corrections <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]594fe891139cca83f>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (intranet CSS) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d6f9397a5f0d1a686>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21570: Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Various <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]6b0a55ddd83b6fc4a>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: (follow-up) Make Adlibris cover show on OPAC overdues tab <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4a468a48a97af840d>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20970: Reformat basket information on acquisitions basket page <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]06832a45909046ef1>
14:54 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 16280: purge_suggestions.pl: Cron job log should tell number of days used <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]f6489065646cb3f15>
14:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (OPAC templates) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]dbacedc8d79d13469>
14:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (intranet templates) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]07aadb854260bdc13>
14:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (OPAC SCSS changes) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e690929a8ffe4c9cd>
14:55 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 8630: Adlibris covers (syspref files) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]e73d881f36cc5f9bf>
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15:10 oleonard kidclamp: Could you please add feature freeze, string freeze, etc. to the Koha shared calendar?
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15:14 Bovinity Morning
15:14 cait oleonard: sorry, had to book a flight :) looking in my notes now
15:14 cait you need all patrons that have a specific notice?
15:15 oleonard That is my goal, yes
15:15 cait i know i have reports to do updates, let me find them
15:16 cait something along these lines maybe: http://paste.koha-community.org/151
15:16 cait it's also looking for specific categories
15:17 cait 5 and 6 are from message_attributes table
15:18 cait hm actually... that's finding who hasn't the notice.
15:19 cait I think that turns it around: http://paste.koha-community.org/152
15:24 oleonard That works great, thank you!
15:24 oleonard cait++
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15:33 kidclamp @later tell Joubu - the failing test requires discussion with tcohen - please let me know who wins :-)
15:33 huginn kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
15:36 Guest1933 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #90: STILL UNSTABLE in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/90/
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15:52 * cait waves at kidclamp
15:53 cait oleonard: happy to help you out for a change :)
15:53 corilynn kidclamp, confused by comment 128 on bug 14957 ... what is that?
15:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=14957 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, eivin, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import
15:54 kidclamp looks like accidental attachment
15:56 corilynn mmk
15:57 cait you can just mark it obsolete i think
15:57 cait if you want to test
15:57 cait ah, it's already been done
15:57 cait i think you can ignore it then
15:57 corilynn k
15:57 corilynn it looked weird with the sign off bits
15:58 corilynn for some reason this bug is my personal SO capture the flag contest
15:58 cait i am really happy to see it get some attention
15:58 corilynn if only 18823 could have some lovin'
15:58 cait David just commented about it
15:58 cait bug 18823
15:58 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, Needs Signoff , Advanced editor - Rancor - add ability to edit records in import batches
16:00 Bovinity What's the feeling on the addition of existing libraries (lightbox2 in my case) in patches if the function you're working on makes use of it? Or should such an addition suggestion be a bug submission in and of itself?
16:01 cait Bovinity: i'd consult with oleonard for GUI things - chance might be we have something that does a similar thing already
16:01 Bovinity That's likely!
16:02 oleonard Bovinity: Are you still talking about media from 856?
16:03 oleonard I think it would be good to work within what we have--see the local cover images tab--and make it so that adding lightbox2 in custom JS would be an easy integration
16:03 Bovinity Yeah, our historian fellow wanted photos to be displayed a little nicer visually and with descriptions baked in and such.
16:06 Bovinity Basically this (but for topics other than cats) http://opac.bovinitydivinity.c[…]l?biblionumber=12
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16:28 oleonard Guest1933: Who are you and what have you done with jenkins?
16:28 ashimema Joubu about?
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16:30 ashimema yeay.. my branch is still happy
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16:35 Bovinity Jenkins called in sick.
16:46 kidclamp back later
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16:50 Guest1933 Yippee, build fixed!
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18:10 * CrispyBran waves
18:11 oleonard Hi CrispyBran
18:11 CrispyBran hello oleonard
18:11 CrispyBran Did you get my message?
18:12 oleonard I did but I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to find out
18:12 CrispyBran Okay.
18:14 CrispyBran Working on 21346.  Cleaning up dialogs and mapping out holds and transfers.  There are two sections that handle the diffbranch condition for some reason.
18:15 CrispyBran Can't figure out what triggers them.  One of them talks about items being consigned.  Wonder if you know what that means.
18:15 CrispyBran This is in returns.tt
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18:17 oleonard I don't think I have any special knowledge of that. If I were in your position I would be doing the same detective work: Looking at the template conditions and trying to trace it back through returns.pl to find how they're triggered.
18:19 CrispyBran Okay.  It was a longshot that I would find someone that knows.  It looks like it might have been older transfer dialogs for holds, but I'm not sure.  I'll see what I can figure out.
18:20 cait do you know about git blmae?
18:20 cait blame
18:20 cait it can help sometimes
18:20 cait but you might still end pu in a bit of a dead end if it is from before the switch to Template Toolkit
18:21 CrispyBran never heard of it.
18:25 CrispyBran Cool tool!  So, it looks like Joubu or rangi might have the answers I need.
18:28 Bovinity Yeah, I swear learning about git is the real final boss of development, not the coding itself. :D
18:32 CrispyBran @seen Joubu
18:32 huginn CrispyBran: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 days, 5 hours, 5 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Joubu> Anybody around is connected with an IPv6 address?
18:32 CrispyBran @seen rangi
18:32 huginn CrispyBran: rangi was last seen in #koha 4 days, 21 hours, 30 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <rangi> ill have to try to switch on more loggin
18:36 CrispyBran @seen kidclamp
18:36 huginn CrispyBran: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <kidclamp> back later
18:40 * oleonard fears the day someone says, "You're still using git?! I can't believe you're not using X yet..."
18:44 Bovinity "CoffeeEmu" Because everyone knows the best tools have names that make you ask why.
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19:47 * andreashm waves
19:54 * cait waves at andreashm
19:55 andreashm hi cait
19:56 oleonard Bye all
20:03 * kidclamp waves
20:04 andreashm hi kidclamp
20:05 kidclamp hi andreashm
20:05 kidclamp @wunder 05001
20:05 huginn kidclamp: White River Junction, VT :: Overcast :: 43F/6C | Wind Chill: 41F/5C | Monday: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. High 43F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%. Monday Night: Considerable cloudiness with occasional rain showers. Low 41F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 60%.
20:05 andreashm @wunder stockholm
20:05 huginn andreashm: Stockholm, Sweden :: Mostly Cloudy :: 31F/0C | Monday: Fog developing overnight. Lows overnight in the low 30s. Monday Night: Cloudy this evening then becoming foggy and damp after midnight. Low 31F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph.
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20:14 andreashm hi caroline
20:29 cait tcohen: do you remember if Lari is still doing dev? there is a lot going on at one of his bugs: bug 17140
20:29 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17140 major, P5 - low, ---, larit, Failed QA , Incorrect rounding in total fines calculations, part 2
20:29 cait @wunder Konstanz
20:29 huginn cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Clear :: 46F/8C | Wind Chill: 46F/8C | Monday: Mostly clear. Lows overnight in the mid 40s. Monday Night: Generally clear. Low 44F. Winds light and variable.
20:29 cait hi caroline :)
20:35 andreashm Yay! I think I finally found the reason, and the solution, to our lost refund issue! Bug 20285
20:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=20285 minor, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Lost item refund won't always pay down lost item fee first
20:38 cait kidclamp++
20:43 * caroline waves to andreashm and cait
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21:36 Migel009 Please, how to copy the content from one field to another, example the 260 copy to 008
21:41 caroline Migel009: I'm not sure it's possible in Koha. batch modification cannot affect control fields as far as I know. Maybe try an alternative tool like MarcEdit?
21:42 caroline what I meant by "cannot affect control fields" is that control fields are fixed-length and the batch tool in Koha cannot modifiy a specify position
21:46 cait caroline++
21:48 Migel009 260 c copy to 008 7-10 what to do.
21:48 Migel009 Thank you
21:50 caroline Migel009: unfortunately, Koha can't do this automatically. You will have to copy it manually or use an external tool like MarcEdit.
21:56 Migel009 thank you
23:06 rangi 4760/60
23:06 rangi wahanui: 4760/60
23:06 wahanui 79.3333333333333
23:36 caroline good night #koha!

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