IRC log for #koha, 2018-10-12

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01:03 dcook I wonder if folk run the web installer for kohadevbox...
01:03 dcook Got a timeout the first time and now it's a bit borked
01:03 wizzyrea ah
01:03 wizzyrea yeah that happens sometimes
01:03 wizzyrea do it with less sample data.
01:03 dcook "reset_all" time I think
01:04 wizzyrea I think it's the frameworks that do it?
01:04 wizzyrea I leave them off now when I do the installer in devbox
01:04 dcook Mmm I could see that. People must usually just use the defaults
01:04 wizzyrea and import them manually later
01:04 wizzyrea if required
01:04 dcook Makes sense
01:04 dcook For most things a person probably doesn't need them
01:04 wizzyrea well not for testing/dev really
01:05 wizzyrea it's only in the devbox it's quite strange
01:05 wizzyrea like I said it normally doesn't worry me too much I just don't do that thing that makes it die :P
01:05 dcook heh
01:05 dcook We could probably just increase the timeout but yeah it's one of those things that's like "ehhhh"
01:05 * dcook is debating lunch atm
01:06 wizzyrea yeah, I didn't see the point lol :)
01:06 dcook I have things here to eat but wouldn't mind other things. But my muscles are sore and I don't want to go anywhere. heh
01:06 * dcook needs the massage that the doctor recommended back in March
01:08 dcook Also, how've you been keeping, wizzyrea?
01:09 dcook Feel like we haven't chatted for a really long time
01:09 wizzyrea neither here nor there really, how about you?
01:10 dcook Yeah pretty good. Not too many complaints.
01:10 dcook Most of the complaints are probably self-inflicted anyway :p
01:11 wizzyrea how's the kiddo?
01:11 dcook Huge. And stubborn. But overall good heh.
01:11 wizzyrea ^.^
01:12 dcook I figure all the things that make life hard for the parents now will be assets to the kiddo later in life.
01:12 wizzyrea if you can manage to not be too controlling, that's probably true.
01:12 dcook Well except the cafe addiction
01:12 dcook Yeah, I try not to be too controlling, although sometimes it feels like a fine line between controlling and overly permissive
01:13 dcook It's really neat seeing their mind develop though. Like what seems like an irrational tantrum to an adult is completely rational to a kid.
01:13 dcook And today it was clearly being pissed off that I wouldn't go to the cafe
01:13 wizzyrea hehe, that's why kids relate to the Hulk
01:13 dcook lol
01:14 dcook My kid is a huge spiderman fan
01:14 dcook Always spraying webs at people
01:14 dcook We don't even do any spiderman stuff at home. It's all from other kids.
01:14 dcook Although I'm all "That's right kiddo. Like Marvel."
01:14 wizzyrea :)
01:14 dcook It's not controlling if they like it of their own accord >_>
01:15 dcook How's spud doing?
01:15 dcook Must be so much older than I'm thinking as he started school ages ago...
01:15 wizzyrea he's 10!
01:15 dcook Christ...
01:15 wizzyrea ^.^
01:15 dcook Where have the last 7 years gone? hah
01:15 wizzyrea yeah he's well enough
01:16 dcook That's good :)
01:17 dcook Don't mind me. Just letting my worldview re-align.
01:17 dcook 10..
01:18 * dcook remembers when he was just going to move to Australia for 6 months..
01:21 wizzyrea >.>
01:24 dcook Ok reproduced the bug in kohadevbox. Woo!
01:25 * dcook wants to do more of his community contributions via kohadevbox
01:25 dcook Now to fix the bug... when I have a million other things that I should be doing <_<
01:25 wizzyrea it makes it easy for sure
01:26 dcook I think I was just trying to do the fastest/easiest thing for me before, but I figure if I do it all with kohadevbox, it makes it easier for other people to reproduce, test, and sign off...
01:27 wizzyrea mmm devbox is hands down easier than any other way these days
01:34 * mtompset is awake sort of. :)
01:34 mtompset Greetings, wizzyrea dcook
01:34 wizzyrea hi mtompset
01:35 mtompset I actually thought of you guys recently while looking at bugs, but can't remember context. Oh well. :)
01:38 * dcook waves
01:38 dcook I actually have a fix I wrote for something else that shoudl work here...
01:40 dcook Excellent. Bug fixed.
01:40 dcook Not sure if everyone will agree with the solution but...
01:40 dcook Maybe we can all find a better one
01:48 mtompset which bug?
01:50 mtompset @later tell CrispyBran blame caching. You need to restart_all between git bz's.
01:50 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
01:50 dcook https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21556
01:50 huginn Bug 21556: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Deleting same record twice leads to fatal software error
01:50 dcook Still working on getting a patch up
01:50 * dcook is new to kohadevbox
01:50 dcook Uh oh I've screwed up my line endings...
01:51 mtompset are you git bashing from windoze?
01:52 dcook Yeah the git clone was set up using the git bash from windows. I've dealt with this before. Silly me.
01:59 mtompset When you set up git bash in windoze... always remember to change the checkout as is and checkin as is.
01:59 mtompset The default is the wrong one. :(
01:59 dcook I know ;)
01:59 mtompset CrispyBran had that problem today.
01:59 dcook Well wrong for working with Koha at least
01:59 dcook For other projects, it's not necessarily an issue
01:59 dcook Well and only with Koha in terms of sharing with Linux on the same system
01:59 dcook Anyway
02:00 dcook So you could actually leave the default for git bash for windows
02:00 dcook Then just locally change it for your Koha repo
02:00 * dcook thumbs up
02:00 mtompset true.
02:02 dcook Wee! Done!
02:03 dcook wizzyrea: You're right. The environment is configured soooo nicely.
02:09 dcook Hmm looks like the git was actually already configured correctly. Hmmm. Maybe it wasn't in the past...
02:33 dcook Actually, I don't think I do "Checkout as-is, commit as-is" (false). I do "Checkout as-is, commit Unix-style line endings" (input) for Koha. And by default Git for Windows does "Checkout Windows-style, commit Unix-style line endings" (true).
02:33 dcook I think in this case, the koha git repo must have been an old one created with the "true" config setting
02:34 dcook It should be safer to use "input" rather than "false" in the event you work on both windows and linux for the same working directory
03:05 mtompset I'm crashing hard. Have a great day, #koha dcook wizzyrea
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05:01 dcook @seen gmcharlt
05:01 huginn dcook: gmcharlt was last seen in #koha 2 days, 8 hours, 35 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <gmcharlt> cait: awww. yeah, my colleagues mentioned that to me; just tied up keeping fires burning at home, as it were
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05:36 marcelr hi #koha
05:36 calire morning #koha
05:36 marcelr hi calire
05:36 calire hey marcelr
06:01 Archie_ good morning marcelr
06:01 * cait waves
06:01 Archie_ ha cait
06:07 ere morning #koha
06:08 cait ere: would you interested in a job as elasticsearch qa expert? :)
06:10 ere cait: Depends on what it really means (wiping the floor is fine, but I'm afraid of heights) :)
06:10 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_19.05
06:10 cait a sign-off can count towards QA
06:10 cait aah you are already module maint
06:10 cait or will be
06:10 ere cait: Well, yeah :)
06:11 cait i think we can treat that similarly :)
06:11 ere cait: Just let me know what you need and we'll see what happens.. :D
06:11 cait :)
06:11 cait was just looking for ways to improve flow of those patches...
06:12 cait atm my elasticsearch is broken again :(
06:12 cait so focusing on the other areas a bit right now in qa
06:13 ere cait: I'd love that, but I think I'm somehow involved in all of the ones I'm waiting for atm so that it's better if someone else does the qa..
06:13 cait makes sense
06:13 cait might change :)
06:14 ere cait: true
06:14 cait do you know if someone is testing at the moment?
06:14 ere cait: unfortunately I've no idea
06:14 ere cait: so, what's wrong with your ES?
06:15 ere cait: maybe I can help you help me!
06:15 cait i have to run to work :( will have to look at it antoher time
06:16 ere cait: sure, just let me know if there's something I can help with
06:18 cait thx!
06:26 cait bbl!
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06:37 reiveune hello
06:37 wahanui niihau, reiveune
06:41 marcelr hi reiveune  and ere
06:41 reiveune salut marcelr
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06:54 alex_a bonjour
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06:55 fridolin hit here
06:55 * paxed prefers not to
06:56 ere hi marcelr and everyone
06:56 calire hi ere
06:56 ere hi calire
06:56 marcelr and hi alex_a fridolin
06:58 fridolin hi everyone everywhere ;)
07:00 alex_a hello, marcelr ere cait and fridolin
07:01 ere hi alex_a
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07:09 ashimema morning #koha
07:09 cait morning #koha
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07:23 marcelr hi ashimema
07:26 josef_moravec morning #koha
07:26 ashimema did you get my pm this morning cait ?
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07:28 cait ah nope not yet?
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07:29 * andreashm waves
07:30 * drojf waves
07:30 * dcook waves
07:30 dcook Clearly time for me to head home :p
07:30 andreashm dcook: =)
07:30 cait and good morning all :)
07:31 andreashm hi drojf and cait
07:32 andreashm dcook: find any of that spare time (whatever that is?) to work on bug 10662? =)
07:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Failed QA , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
07:32 dcook Not yet. I've been absolutely flat out. I'm hoping next week.
07:33 dcook I've got my kohadevbox running and submitted my first patch with that
07:33 dcook https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21556
07:33 huginn Bug 21556: minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Deleting same record twice leads to fatal software error
07:33 andreashm cool!
07:33 dcook Thinking I'll try chipping away at 10662 next week either in the mornings or evenings
07:33 josef_moravec dcook++
07:33 * dcook blushes
07:34 andreashm dcook++
07:34 dcook And thanks to josef_moravec, I think I have an idea of how to run the QA scripts
07:34 dcook So hopefully I should get a bit further along
07:34 andreashm josef_moravec++
07:34 dcook josef_moravec++
07:34 dcook Definitely ^
07:34 andreashm dcook: what time is it there? honestly, I'm surprised to see you still here as I started working a bit late, since I was out walking the dog
07:34 dcook Looking at the bug again, it's not as scary as I thought it was heh
07:34 dcook 6:34pm
07:35 dcook On a Friday :p
07:35 andreashm ehhh.
07:35 dcook Time to head home for a beer and dinner I think
07:35 andreashm eeeh, I planned to write.
07:35 andreashm Go get beer! =)
07:35 dcook Both see applicable heh
07:35 dcook I have a few tasty ones sitting in my fridge. Waiting. Calling my name.
07:36 drojf hallucinating because of lack of beer?
07:36 dcook Probably
07:36 wahanui Probably is too hard.
07:36 dcook Should have beer just to be safe
07:36 drojf yep. good medicine
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07:37 andreashm +1
07:38 andreashm beer would be nice. just not quite so early in the morning... =)
07:39 drojf a nice get back to bed beer
07:40 andreashm hehe
07:41 josef_moravec beer++ :D
07:41 dcook or two
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07:41 dcook I did end up doing a bit of programming last night heh
07:41 drojf bug 21536
07:41 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21536 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , t/Koha_ExternalContent_RecordedBooks.t skips more tests than scheduled
07:41 drojf nightly builds would be happy about a signoff ;)
07:41 * josef_moravec have 2 in fridge too, but there is still morning and much work ahead ;(
07:41 dcook Set up one of these[…]6-wifi-australia/ with a motion detector to hit a IFTTT webhook when it sees motion
07:42 dcook josef_moravec: I'll start and you finish ;)
07:42 dcook All right. I'm off. Enjoy your Friday, all!
07:42 drojf dcook: cool, i started playing with esp8266 recently
07:42 josef_moravec dcook: enjoy your rest ;)
07:47 tuxayo ashimema++
07:47 tuxayo Great recuiting email on the koha-devel list :)
07:49 josef_moravec ashimema++
07:49 andreashm ashimema++
07:49 cait ashimema++ ;)
07:50 drojf @later tell tcohen i put a pre version of libwebservice-ils-perl in the unstable repo (upload to debian pending), nightly will pick it up as soon as 21536 or 17084 is pushed. you might need to stop cpan-ing it in devbox in case you do
07:50 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
08:10 * ashimema tries to temp someone into attempting to test bug 20640
08:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20640 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Allow migrating a request between backends
08:20 ashimema hehe.. get ready for the influx of new volunteers .. haha
08:30 ere speaking of which, it would be great to have a bit more in the wiki about what's expected from them.. When I tried to find out about module maintainers, there were mostly questions
08:31 ashimema it's not the most defined of roles.. didn't take off a great deal
08:32 ashimema so.. you can sort of make what you want of it to a certain extent ere.. just keep close contact with the rm of the time and see how much responsibility they're happy to divolve :)
08:33 cait josef_moravec: you put something new in the queue... now you have to qa something for balance ;)
08:33 ashimema haha
08:33 ere ashimema: yeah, figured that out, but I'm thinking of others that may be interested in participant, where it would be nice to know about the basic expectations before raising a hand
08:34 ere s/participant/participating/
08:34 ashimema :)
08:34 josef_moravec cait: I'll try ;)
08:34 ashimema I'll see what I can do :)
08:35 cait ere: to say it in a positive way.... it's a role that can still shapeß
08:35 cait ?
08:35 ere ashimema: really, if waht you just said would be in the wiki, that'd be a good start :) And then maybe start cleaning up the pages where there are only questions about what these roles might be :D
08:36 ere cait: Yes, also that the roles are not set in stone is a good thing to know :)
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09:05 ashimema https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Project_roles
09:05 * ashimema is working on it ;)
09:07 cait today is the day of email problems :(
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09:10 ashimema cait.. fancy adding a short summary of your role to that page ^ ?
09:11 ere ashimema++
09:12 ashimema the info is largely out there.. just not especially well summarised
09:12 ashimema we need wiki curators ;)
09:13 cait i got a proposal that shoud cover it i think
09:13 cait sorry, right now bit tied up
09:13 ashimema okies
09:15 ere ashimema: maybe wiki curation could be promoted as a way to volunteer :)
09:15 ashimema it's in the email ;)
09:19 ere ashimema: oh, right :)
09:32 marcelr @later tell mtompset signoffs signoffs
09:32 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
09:40 ashimema what do you want to make of your module maintainer role ere?  do you have a proposal of what you'd like to do?
09:41 * ashimema wonders if qa specialist might suit better or not
09:41 marcelr module maintainer are never really used
09:41 ashimema indeed
09:41 marcelr we should not mention them anymore
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09:41 marcelr just my thought
09:41 ashimema or has kidclamp got you onboard and have a plan for you ere perhaps ;)?
09:42 ashimema I sort of think they'd be bette servered as a QA Topic Expert.. try to coax some more people into QA but letting them officially limit themselves to an area they feel confident in..
09:45 marcelr yeah having module maintainer and qa topic experts is overkill
09:45 marcelr maybe we should name them topic experts and strip the qa word btw
09:45 marcelr there is qa and there is topic expert
09:46 marcelr certainly no experts in qa team :)
09:46 ashimema hehe
09:46 ashimema good idea
09:47 ere ashimema: Well, yeah, I thought I might actually do something useful as a module maintainer..
09:47 marcelr having good ideas tends to make todo lists even longer
09:47 marcelr ere: no
09:47 marcelr ^^
09:48 ashimema hehe
09:48 marcelr join qa, become release maintainer, bug wrangler, ..
09:48 ashimema I'd like to know what you'd like to contribute ere.. once we know that we can work no a name for the role and make sure we can utilise those skills and that keeness to get on board and help :)
09:49 ere marcelr: I suppose kidclamp may have an idea since he asked me.. I don't consider myself a really good qa person, rather a developer with some some areas where I've gathered quite a bit of knowledge.
09:49 marcelr you would be a topic expert
09:49 * ashimema was a module maintainer for a while.. i treated it as a topic expert and just tried to make sure I jumped on bugs in my expert area quickly if I saw them.. making sure I SO'd or QA'd them quickly or contributed in any other way I could
09:50 marcelr and you could be contacted by qa
09:50 ashimema but in reality.. it didn't really help much.. just generally QAing was of far more benefit
09:50 marcelr im all for topic experts
09:50 ashimema that's perfect for topic expert I reckon ere
09:50 cait i think for elastic we need someone to keep an overview
09:50 cait of dependencies etc
09:50 cait what will clash
09:51 ere I don't really care what the title is, but I'm willing to contribute in stuff I know.
09:51 ashimema for instance.. I'm not entirely confident about QAing ES patches yet.. but if I had someone to reach out to to bash idea's against then I'd be more happy about diving in.
09:51 marcelr ere++
09:51 ashimema does that make sense
09:51 ashimema ere++
09:51 cait ere++ :)
09:53 marcelr later tell @Joubu lots of qa tools warns like File not found : js/global.js at .../Plugin/
09:53 marcelr @later tell Joubu lots of qa tools warns like File not found : js/global.js at .../Plugin/
09:53 huginn marcelr: The operation succeeded.
09:54 marcelr ashimema: care to have a look on bug 21299 ?
09:54 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21299 enhancement, P5 - low, ---,, Signed Off , Move referer code from changelanguage to module in opac and staff
09:55 ashimema sure thing
09:55 marcelr got no more feedback from the qa gurus
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10:01 cait i can't test with https, that's what kept me away so far
10:02 marcelr you should use https
10:02 marcelr as you know
10:02 marcelr :)
10:02 marcelr letsencrypt
10:02 wahanui letsencrypt is a link to certbot
10:05 cait marcelr++ thx for qa
10:10 marcelr it was a big one..
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11:07 Archie^ right, so has anyone here tried to load their own OpenLibrary?
11:11 AndrewIsh josef_moravec++ thanks for the QA
11:11 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: i haven't finished yet ;)
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11:12 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  I thought I'd got through lightly, I'll await your final verdict ;-)
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11:38 cait ashimema++ thank you
11:38 ashimema :)
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11:40 oleonard Hey
11:45 calire hi oleonard
11:45 wahanui hi oleopard
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11:58 ashimema @later tell caroline I got asked to clarify the community release team roles a bit on the wiki.. I've run out of steam at the documentation team.. did you guys fancy adding a bit of a summary on what you do to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Project_roles
11:58 huginn ashimema: The operation succeeded.
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12:17 oleonard So much qa!
12:17 oleonard cait++
12:17 cait oleonard: and finding bugs :(
12:17 oleonard calire++
12:17 cait we just got a report htat we don't sort checkout date correctly in list of checkouts
12:17 oleonard rangi++
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12:20 * ashimema is going to start slipping back down the board at this rate.. lovely to see people climbing up it.. go QA
12:21 ashimema the NSO queue is a tad high though :(
12:21 cait it was worse... but it could be much better
12:24 ashimema indeed
12:25 * ashimema has a hankering to make some pretty graphs on the Dashboard :S
12:26 oleonard cait: Are there any particular circumstances which trigger the date sorting problem?
12:28 fridolin Bug 21560
12:28 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21560 major, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , report ODS export optimization
12:29 fridolin if someone uses reports ODS export, it may explode the server performance
12:29 oleonard Sorry cait your comment just came through
12:29 cait oleonard: so far i confirmed it only in 16.11 and 17.11 but couldn't find a bug or patch that matches
12:30 cait couldn't test in master right n ow
12:30 AndrewIsh josef_moravec++ thanks for the QA (assuming you're now finished) :-)
12:37 ashimema blimey..
12:38 * ashimema cheers AndrewIsh on to get those QA followups done and offers josef_moravec a beer
12:41 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  You suggestion here https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=20581#c56 to use auth_val_cat.sql instead of an atomic update - will that get deployed during an upgrade? (Sorry for the n00b question!)
12:41 huginn Bug 20581: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Failed QA , Allow manual selection of custom ILL request statuses
12:41 ashimema you'll need both I would think AndrewIsh
12:42 ashimema one for at install time, the other for at upgrade time
12:44 AndrewIsh ashimema:  Yes, I already have it in kohastructure.sql, but josef is suggesting putting the upgrade modifcation in auth_val_cat.sql instead of my own file which, now I read it again, makes sense! :)
13:03 tcohen morning
13:03 cait morning tcohen
13:03 tcohen now kidclamp is away, lets push all the things LOL
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13:04 caroline good morning!
13:04 tcohen josef_moravec: are you going to submit to bug 21401 the API change?
13:04 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, ASSIGNED , Account offsets should save the transacting library
13:06 tcohen hola AndrewIsh and ashimema
13:06 AndrewIsh Good morning tcohen
13:07 ashimema mornin'
13:07 corilynn qq josef_moravec? (but first a thank you!)
13:07 Archie^ a question: let's say i have access to national library db that store the latest records with all national books. i can do a daily export of any changes in said datbase. but as far as i understand i can only import into koha via manage stored MARC records? Or can i do a just a plain insert into koha DB ?
13:08 Archie^ ofc after some sort of data manipulation so it fits koha db
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13:09 corilynn Archie^ you can import bibliographic records with the cataloging interface
13:09 corilynn wait, or do you mean bulk?
13:09 Archie^ bulk
13:09 corilynn *(I've got cataloging interface on the brain)
13:10 Archie^ sure i can import large excel file or whatever, but i wanna automate this procedure to do a daily dump
13:11 Archie^ to only upload the changes in national library
13:11 corilynn I wonder if the api would help?
13:14 Archie^ yeah i was thinking the same
13:15 Archie^ but here is the thing tho. i get that i can add patron via insert into db. Can same be done with books?
13:17 caroline Archie^: I don't know the details, but we've developed somthing for the local ebbok platform (like overdrive but in Quebec) and I know the code uses "AddBiblio"
13:18 Archie^ i'm actually looking into ebook platform right now
13:18 caroline (I know mainly because my colleague was cursing about addbiblio this week, hehe)
13:18 Archie^ i'm looking into openlibrary
13:18 Archie^ ;D
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13:20 caroline I'll ask if I can share the .pl file with you so you can look at what it does. I'm not sure because it's a paid development by our clients
13:21 Archie^ then i won't get my hopes up
13:21 Archie^ but thanks anyway
13:23 Archie^ wait... if i'm installing koha via packages where is the default directory it installes itself into?
13:24 blou imo, the stuff is perfectly sharable.  Except it's not a cute standalone code, couldn't really extract it.
13:24 Joubu @later tell marcelr how did you get those warnings?
13:24 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:24 caroline (blou = cursing colleague mentioned above)  :P
13:25 tcohen hola Joubu!
13:28 blou Archie: what format will you get those records into?  We're getting some JSON, which we read using perl's decode_json into a hash, then create a MARC record using perl's MARC::Record library, filling the fields we can find.  It's very custom.
13:28 Joubu hola tcohen, #koha!
13:29 corilynn hi Joubu!
13:29 Archie^ blou: not sure, we are not getting them in any way, shape of form YET. I will have access next week so we are in the plans of "how to migrate this to koha etc etc"
13:29 Archie^ hi Joubu ;)
13:29 ashimema hi coroline
13:30 caroline Hi ashimema! :) I got your message about the wiki page
13:30 caroline will look at it this afternoon
13:30 ashimema no rush
13:30 ashimema :)
13:31 caroline With the nice email you sent, it might be good to have more details where we could point volunteers to
13:32 ashimema ;)
13:32 caroline So I'll try to do it earlier than later
13:32 ashimema that;'s what drove it..
13:32 oleonard It was a very nice email ashimema
13:32 ashimema felt a little bit 'salesy' to me.. but I got cait to vet it to make sure it wasn't toooo over the top ;)
13:33 caroline I thought it was great
13:33 ashimema I expect you to put your name down as a topic expert for ui design now though oleonard.. haha ;)
13:34 ashimema I was in a 'sales pitch' wordy mood this morning when I wrote it.. it started out as 'votes are open, come put your names down'.. but grew a bit
13:40 cait oleonard: i hope you will too :)
13:40 caroline oleonard++
13:41 cait ashimema: procrastinating something? ;)
13:45 ashimema lol
13:45 ashimema perhaps..
13:45 ashimema I was putting off working on an ill backend ;)
13:45 * oleonard added his name
13:49 ashimema yeay :)
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13:59 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: yes finish, no I didn't ment to remove ILLSTATUS category form atomic, I ment to remove the new installer file optional/ill_status.sql and add it only the category itself to a mandatory file auth_values_cat.sql
14:00 josef_moravec tcohen: Yes, I would like to add the API changes to bug 21401
14:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21401 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, ASSIGNED , Account offsets should save the transacting library
14:00 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  Yes, sorry mixed terminology on my part. I think this addresses it: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]80474&action=diff
14:00 josef_moravec sorry guys  I am late with my responses
14:01 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  Still working through your feedback, super useful, thanks very much :)
14:02 corilynn josef_moravec I added a new comment on bug 19263 (what AndrewIsh says ++ useful and great)
14:02 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19263 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced Editor - Rancor - Add auto control number (001) widget
14:02 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: not at all, thanks for your followups ;) Your enhancements to ILL module are pretty useful!
14:03 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  :-D
14:03 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: yes, that is exactly what i was thinking about (your patch ;))
14:03 ashimema and there's plenty more in the pipe too :)
14:03 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  Excellent
14:03 wahanui darn tootin' it is.
14:04 josef_moravec ashimema: glad to hear ;)
14:04 corilynn wahanui is a one trick pony
14:05 oleonard wahanui what are you?
14:05 wahanui i am probably back??!!!
14:05 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: you should remove optional/ill_auth_cat.txt too
14:06 cait oleonard: look up waha and nui separately - he is a big mouth :)
14:06 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  I did, I *think* the orange line in that diff represents that
14:06 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  Oh, sorry .txt! There's a .txt?! Oh man...
14:07 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: :D
14:07 * ashimema gets to his first QA of the day at last :)
14:08 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: yes, you added it here https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]80279&action=diff ;)
14:08 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  Duh, so I did, I'll fix! I'm glad one of us is paying attention ;-)
14:10 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: ;)
14:17 josef_moravec corilynn: thanks for quick follow-up
14:17 josef_moravec corilynn++
14:17 corilynn :)
14:18 corilynn josef_maravec ... it's my first real bug
14:19 josef_moravec corilynn: great!
14:19 AndrewIsh josef_moravec:  I *think* I've addressed everything on bug 20581 now, thanks again for that!
14:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20581 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, Signed Off , Allow manual selection of custom ILL request statuses
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14:28 josef_moravec AndrewIsh: I am looking into it ;)
14:29 AndrewIsh josef_moravec++
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14:31 * CrispyBran waves
14:34 tcohen hi
14:34 wahanui salut, tcohen
14:34 CrispyBran hellop tcohen
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14:35 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:35 CrispyBran hellop is so much better than hello, don't you think?  :/
14:35 mtompset marcelr++ # thank you, thank you.
14:36 mtompset elho?
14:36 oleonard cait: I added a followup to Bug 21434 but left it 'signed off.' I hope that's okay.
14:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21434 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Signed Off , Switch two-column templates to Bootstrap grid: Tools part 2
14:36 mtompset no no ehlo. :)
14:36 CrispyBran heleo
14:37 mtompset Daylight comes and I want sleep now. ;)
14:37 CrispyBran holle
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14:39 mtompset Must get back into the sign off groove...
14:40 mtompset cait is too close. :)
14:40 * ashimema is getting sleepy.. it's not even late afternoon yet!
14:41 * mtompset hands ashimema a monster ultra sunrise, "Lovely orangey taste."
14:41 ashimema hehe :)
14:41 ashimema blimey.. you just got me checking out the dashboard stats.. 119 signoffs this year to date.. you're a machine!
14:42 ashimema I was happy to be in the top 10
14:43 Joubu kidclamp: push session planned?
14:44 caroline Joubu: he said he was only coming back next week
14:45 Joubu ok thanks
14:45 * Joubu wonders how the PQA queue is processed :D
14:46 Joubu looks like a Last Big In First Out
14:48 ashimema I think tcohen was talking about pushing a few for kidclamp to keep the queue management in his absence
14:48 cait mtompset: i am not even trying hard :P
14:49 cait oleonard: of course :)
14:49 tcohen Joubu: stock rotation was a big one, that's correct
14:49 cait oleonard: i saw something odd on the form for adding items to label batches
14:49 cait the checkboxes are disarranged - but it was before/after your patches on this one, i forgot to note it
14:50 cait Joubu: stock rotation on admin permissions i guess?
14:50 cait i will try to rebase over the weekend...
14:50 * cait glares a little at ashimema
14:50 cait ;)
14:51 cait or maybe it was Joubus new perm...
14:51 ashimema :'(
14:51 cait ohno...
14:51 * cait sends cookies
14:51 cait i can't stand the sad smiley
14:52 Joubu cait: I guess it was the new stock rotation perms, yes
14:53 caroline How are MANUAL_INV accounttypes stored in accountlines? Does it just take the first 6 letters?
14:54 ashimema hehe
14:57 ashimema Joubu.. you still planning on QAing bug 15219 ?
14:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15219 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Server-side processing and pagination on checkouts tables
14:59 Joubu I will try and get back to it, sure. The question is when..
14:59 ashimema okies..
15:00 ashimema I'll work through a few others first and come back to it if you've not got there yet :)
15:00 reiveune bye
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15:10 cait oleonard: could you help me with a follow-up for bug 20689?
15:10 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20689 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Make it possible to add capital letter subfields to item search fields
15:11 cait i tried to add a html5 regex thing... but I couldn't get it to work :(
15:11 cait maybe we have something existing i don't think about?
15:13 cait pattern check
15:15 oleonard What do we need? only digits or only letters?
15:15 tuxayo cait: hi, does the browser inspector shows any callbacks on the <input> ?
15:16 ashimema yup
15:17 ashimema only digits and letters.. so we're trying to exclude 'fun' characters like ~ and the euro sign
15:17 oleonard And those are the MOST fun two characters.
15:21 ashimema hehe
15:23 oleonard cait: What regex were you testing?
15:26 cait it#s been a while :(
15:26 cait like... dozens?
15:26 oleonard Okay :)
15:27 cait i am about to leave but be back in half an hour with the right devbox
15:27 cait will you still be around?
15:27 oleonard Yup. I think the browser's built-in validation is superseded by the validation plugin
15:27 cait tht could explain
15:27 cait i checked a lot of different websites for how to do it and it really upset me i couldn't make it work :)
15:28 cait ok, hurrying up and going home - bbiab
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15:32 mtompset ashimema, I had over 100 after 4 months.
15:32 mtompset I took a break, because other projects needed attention.
15:32 ashimema know that feeling
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15:58 cait back, almost
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16:09 cait back back :)
16:09 cait hi caroline :)
16:11 oleonard cait: It is the case that the validation plugin is overriding the browser's validation. That's why your HTML5 pattern didn't work.
16:11 mtompset Greetings, caroline
16:11 cait oleonard: i am kind of relieved :)
16:11 cait some other docs i could look at?
16:11 cait what is our current validation plugin?
16:11 oleonard We could either remove the JS validation in favor of the built-in, or I could add some custom JS validation
16:12 mtompset Your name constantly triggered a musical flashback. There was a girl I knew growing up, and all the guys in our church group would bug her by singing the chorus of a Neil Diamond classic.
16:12 mtompset ^ caroline
16:12 oleonard (built-in = browser's)
16:12 mtompset
16:13 oleonard The advantage to using the jQuery validation plugin is the consistent interface clues
16:13 mtompset -- and possible backward compatibility, right, oleonard?
16:13 oleonard
16:14 oleonard IE9 would be the only folks left behind.
16:14 oleonard I imagine they're used to it :P
16:15 cait i am bit lost what i better but leaving behind IE sounds good :)
16:15 oleonard cait: Limiting field and subfield entries to \d | \w sounds right to you?
16:16 cait i haven't looked up \w yet
16:16 oleonard or [0-9a-zA-Z]+]
16:16 cait that was what i had tried to implement
16:16 cait the latter
16:17 cait i think theoretically marc allows a bit more, but we know it creates problems
16:17 cait our main problem was the upper case letters missing for the subfields
16:17 cait but the long pull downs also seemed not very ergonomic
16:17 oleonard And a MARC tag like '9tX' would be okay?
16:18 cait let me check docs
16:18 cait but i thik we have one infamous one in standard frameworks with an e
16:19 corilynn gah... I need help with the patchy spaghetti that is bug 18823
16:19 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18823 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, carnold, ASSIGNED , Advanced editor - Rancor - add ability to edit records in import batches
16:19 mtompset It would seem that main support for windows 7, 8, 8.1 were all prior to February this year.
16:19 mtompset I suppose IE9 support loss isn't a huge thing, given this.
16:21 cait data element identifier.   A one-character code used to identify individual data elements within a variable field.  The data element may be any ASCII lowercase alphabetic, numeric, or graphic symbol except blank
16:22 oleonard Graphic symbol? 🐅 ?
16:22 cait ...
16:22 cait ascii
16:22 cait but was my first thought too heh
16:23 cait i think they say \; would be valid
16:23 cait tag.   A three character string used to identify or label an associated variable field.  The tag may consist of ASCII numeric characters (decimal integers 0-9) and/or ASCII alphabetic characters (uppercase or lowercase, but not both).
16:23 cait[…]specrecstruc.html
16:23 cait source :)
16:24 cait so us using uppercase is against standard (but it works and is used) and we don't really care about doing the graphics thing do we?
16:25 cait i feel like we should go with  [0-9a-zA-Z]+]
16:26 oleonard Okay I have a patch ready for that cait
16:26 cait wow
16:26 cait oleonard++
16:26 cait want to put it as a follow-up and i sign it?
16:27 oleonard Sure
16:29 cait and thx for your help, really appreciated
16:31 oleonard Of course!
16:31 oleonard patch sent
16:33 cait oleonard++ testing now :)
16:36 corilynn anyone know how to get these conflicts to stop happening with patches? something I can read?
16:37 cait so standard is deactivated by removing the validated class?
16:38 oleonard Adding the validated class allows the form to trigger the validation plugin by adding classes like "required."
16:39 oleonard I wanted it to use custom rules, so I switched the class for an id
16:39 cait interesting, thx!
16:40 oleonard FYI:
16:43 cait signed off, back in the queue :)
16:44 cait oleonard++
16:44 cait corilynn: which conflicts specifically?
16:45 corilynn my branch works, but when I create a new branch to test it out, or push to a sandbox there are conflicts
16:45 cait if you work a lot in the same area sometimes it works best to build things on top of each other and mark them as depends/blocks in bugzilla
16:45 corilynn cait, there's already a depends/blocks
16:45 cait is your branch built on top of the latest master?
16:46 corilynn yes
16:46 cait what kind of conflicts?
16:46 corilynn the patches themselves conflict
16:46 corilynn three different developers
16:47 corilynn I don't know how to make it all happy
16:48 mtompset corilynn, the best kind... :(
16:48 tuxayo corilynn: ouch, good luck :(
16:48 corilynn so, no good guides?
16:49 corilynn I'm stuck muddling through... I mean... not that that's new to me...
16:50 mtompset oh yuck... it's an ugly bug.
16:51 corilynn mtompset / tuxayo ... should I just grab all these changes and make one big pretty patch and obs all the rest?
16:51 corilynn I have a branch that works
16:51 mtompset muddling through is the only way to ensure you don't lose changes.
16:52 corilynn okay then, game on
16:52 mtompset I always do a old patches to new patches compare after I push up a rebased version.
16:52 mtompset Just to make sure nothing is lost.
16:53 cait if you are working on old bugs
16:53 cait please also be careful about keeping authorship
16:53 cait changes should be added in follow-up patches etc
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16:54 corilynn_ what just happened?
16:54 cait we  don't squash when it#s different authors for example
16:54 cait no idea, you didn't leave in my client.. just reappeared
16:54 corilynn_ I'm two people
16:55 corilynn_ anyway, i missed everything after "mtompset> Just to make sure nothing is lost."
16:56 corilynn_ cait, are you saying I shouldn't roll it all up into one patch?
16:59 mtompset corilynn_, not if there are multiple authors.
17:00 corilynn_ mtompset, it's really just two, the third was already obliterated by Nick a long while ago
17:01 corilynn_ mtompset, maybe I can at least get it down to a couple
17:03 cait (18:53:25) cait: if you are working on old bugs
17:03 cait (18:53:31) cait: please also be careful about keeping authorship
17:03 cait (18:53:41) cait: changes should be added in follow-up patches etc
17:03 cait what you had missed
17:03 cait or irc?
17:03 wahanui i guess irc is not the most active at the time of the week ;) (I don't know where you are, but where caroline_ is it's friday afternoon so a lot of ppl are gone for the weekend)
17:03 cait hm
17:03 cait logs?
17:03 cait well there is for logs
17:07 corilynn_ cait, the only problem with follow up patches is the original patches don't "apply" they fail when pushed to sandboxes
17:08 corilynn_ they were already conflicted
17:08 corilynn_ I'll do my best... many have told me that git is delorian equiped, so I can't mess it up THAT bad
17:09 corilynn_ what if I keep the first patch (which is big and stomps all over a bunch of files), and roll up the rest?
17:12 cait you can rebase, just not add new code
17:12 corilynn_ cait, deal
17:12 cait same author/sign offer can be squashed
17:12 cait but we do it rarely
17:12 corilynn_ wait, maybe I don't get it
17:13 cait i noticed you working on a lot of the rancor patches
17:13 cait are you taking them over officially?
17:13 corilynn_ just one other
17:13 corilynn_ Yes, I asked Nick before he left
17:13 corilynn_ I work for the company that hired bywater to make the Rancor changes
17:14 corilynn_ DGI
17:14 cait aah I see :)
17:14 cait that explains
17:14 cait ok, usually you ask the original author if possible
17:14 corilynn_ I did, promise!
17:14 cait yep, was just wondering :)
17:14 cait all good
17:15 corilynn_ I did a bunch of testing and said, "wow, it's so close to working, it just needs someone to champion it"
17:15 cait :)
17:15 corilynn_ anyway, I'll keep patch 79240 and try and roll the rest
17:16 corilynn_ so that it will apply cleanly and I can do some sandbox testing
17:28 corilynn_ ok, so i figured out, even the first patch has a conflict
17:30 corilynn_ this is all going to have to wait til next week, cause I just ran out of time... have a good weekend ya'll
17:35 caroline hey all! Sorry, I was on stupid VPN that doesn't allow me to be on my own network, then I went to lunch
17:35 caroline must go back on VPN to extract data for migration, laterz!
17:36 * cait sends caroline cookies
17:48 * caroline sends cait timbits
17:55 cait oooh that looks good on google
18:08 tcohen Joubu: around?
18:09 Joubu yes
18:10 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "kohadev-koha@kohadevbox:/home/" (21 lines) at
18:10 tcohen why that much output and the paste?
18:10 tcohen I haven't tried the selenium tests in a while
18:11 tcohen the paste thing is awesome!
18:11 tcohen not sure if it was ok or not
18:11 tcohen or how to control it
18:11 tcohen can you guide me?
18:11 Joubu context?
18:11 Joubu the opac basket count?
18:11 tcohen I want to push bug 21479
18:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21479 major, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Removing from cart removes 2 items
18:12 Joubu search for FIXME in the patch
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18:12 Joubu ;)
18:12 Joubu wahanui: was it me?
18:12 wahanui i don't know, joubu
18:12 Joubu let's try
18:12 Joubu search for FIXME in the patch
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18:12 Joubu outch :)
18:12 Joubu FIXME!
18:13 Joubu search for FIXME
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18:13 Joubu lol
18:14 CrispyBran if I want to amend something to my last commit, do I make the change and use git commit --amend
18:14 Joubu git add, the commit --amend, yes
18:14 Joubu then*
18:14 tcohen if it is already commited, you commit it, then squash the commits
18:15 tcohen Joubu: why do you eval?
18:15 Joubu to not explode
18:16 Joubu tcohen: take a look at t::lib::Selenium->new
18:16 Joubu the short answer is: it's bad and wrong, you should not push as it
18:22 Joubu for FIXME
18:22 Joubu FIXME
18:23 Joubu bla search for FIXME bla
18:23 Joubu bla search for FIXME
18:23 Joubu search for FIXME bla
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18:23 Joubu search for fixme
18:23 Joubu oops
18:23 Joubu come back wahanui!
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18:24 tcohen search for FIXME
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18:24 tcohen ?
18:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21553: Remove JS error on the Rota view <[…]8226e8d608061e1f3>
18:36 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21536: t/Koha_ExternalContent_RecordedBooks.t skips more tests than scheduled <[…]3edc748f538927671>
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18:42 cait tcohen: you can use --amend if commited
18:42 cait stop killing wahanui
18:43 tcohen cait: but that's for the commit message/author only, right?
18:45 Joubu search for TODO
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18:45 Joubu search for tcohen
18:46 cait tcohen: no :)
18:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21479: Remove the trace if the node does not exist <[…]b89bd9f4fcbe40403>
18:46 cait you git add and then it will include those changes too
18:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21479: Add regression tests <[…]a588424cc50243fb3>
18:46 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 21479: Fix remove from cart links at the OPAC (should remove only 1) <[…]94c18396532fceddc>
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18:47 oleonard wahanui: Did you find tcohen?
18:47 wahanui oleonard: i haven't a clue
18:47 oleonard Maybe search longer next time
18:47 Joubu search longer for tcohen
18:47 cait oleonard: i tihnk bug 21566 is a known bug, we ran into it, was about to comment
18:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21566 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Lists function not displaying lists when trying to add a book to a list
18:47 cait fixed in 17.11.10
18:47 oleonard It sounded familiar
18:48 cait hm no .11
18:48 cait it's when you have no private list or something like that
18:48 tcohen ?
18:49 tcohen I want to push any cool thing oleonard did
18:49 cait codemirror heh
18:49 cait bug 21297
18:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21297 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, RESOLVED FIXED, "More lists" screen missing "Select an Existing list" fieldset when all lists are public
18:49 tcohen bug 20260
18:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20260 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor
18:52 oleonard I don't know how you can choose tcohen, they're all hits
18:55 cait oleonard: i only recognized it because i spent hours figuring out that error report :)
18:56 cait one of hte libraries had reported it
18:57 tcohen oleonard: regarding 20260, can you
18:58 tcohen kidding, just pushed it
18:58 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 20260: Use CodeMirror for the SQL reports editor <[…]a219b7b450098412a>
19:07 tcohen have a great weekend, #koha
19:08 oleonard Same!
19:12 cait have a great weekend tcohen and oleonard
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19:30 CrispyBran_ @seen tcohen
19:30 huginn CrispyBran_: tcohen was last seen in #koha 23 minutes and 10 seconds ago: <tcohen> have a great weekend, #koha
19:31 CrispyBran_ @seen Joubu
19:31 huginn CrispyBran_: Joubu was last seen in #koha 43 minutes and 36 seconds ago: <Joubu> search longer for tcohen
19:31 CrispyBran_ @later tell Joubu Please take a look at bug 21503 and let me know if my test and fix look good.  I appreciate your help!
19:31 huginn CrispyBran_: The operation succeeded.
19:32 CrispyBran_ @seen mtompset
19:32 huginn CrispyBran_: mtompset was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 33 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <mtompset> corilynn_, not if there are multiple authors.
19:56 CrispyBran @later tell tcohen I think I have 21503 worked out.  Take a look when you can.
19:56 huginn CrispyBran: The operation succeeded.
19:56 CrispyBran bug 21503
19:56 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Update to fall back to code if description doesn't exist
20:00 caroline cait around?
20:00 cait yes here
20:00 cait knitting, but keeping an eye on irc :)
20:00 caroline What were the titles of your presentation with rangi? I only remember "document all the things"
20:00 cait not in the manual? you can change that
20:01 cait This sphinx is not talking in riddles
20:01 cait I think
20:02 caroline ah yes! I had forgotten the sphinx :)
20:02 caroline I thought they were all very clever
20:26 caroline trying to complete the docs team section on https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Project_roles
20:27 caroline So far I have "Pick a new feature, enhancement or just a missing section in the manual, try it and write how to do it"
20:27 caroline I can't think of anything else...
20:27 cait fix typos and spelling
20:27 cait um.
20:28 cait update screenshots?
20:28 cait maybe a link to the editing the manual page
20:28 caroline Should I put that in here if we have the automation thing
20:28 caroline ?
20:29 caroline I'll put it anyway and remove it when we have the automated screenshots thig working
20:30 davidnind Maybe current process until we have it working - there will still be some screenshots I think that will need manual creation.
20:30 caroline Hi davidnind!
20:30 cait hi davidnind :)
20:30 caroline I didn't know you were here :)
20:30 davidnind Hi caroline + cait!
20:32 davidnind I've been lurking - watching a live webinar/conference + trying to write notes, so having difficulty doing two or three things at once!
20:32 cait work or fun? :)
20:34 davidnind Work related, but of interest to me as well for technical writing https://2018-adobe-dita-world.[…]
20:34 cait ah :)
20:35 caroline cool!
20:35 davidnind DITA is an open structured authoring standard - write multiple self-contained topics (task, reference, concept), combine together to create information products...
20:39 davidnind Still thinking about how/whether to introduce the idea to the documentation team --> solves some challenges, but creates others; probably a demo set of Koha content + how to do using free and open source tools
20:40 caroline davidnind++
20:41 davidnind would group typos, spell checking, etc under maintenance tasks
20:44 davidnind really like the idea of having the roles page
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20:51 caroline What do you think? https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ation_team_member
20:51 davidnind caroline++
20:53 cait caroline++
20:54 davidnind Great! We have some great starting points now - the editing the manual page, regular IRC meetings, cait and rangi's presentation at KohaCon18.
20:57 davidnind caroline++ cait++ LeeJ++ rangi++
20:57 cait davidnind++
20:57 davidnind Hope to get an initial content development guide together over the next few weeks for comment (which I hope will help), bot probably more use medium to long-term.
20:58 davidnind bot s/be but!
20:58 davidnind Concentrating this weekend on trying to get a repository demoing automation of screenshots over the weekend... will see how I go!
20:59 cait wow
20:59 davidnind Now I've said it, I'll have to do i!
20:59 cait heh
20:59 davidnind i s/be it!
20:59 cait i have to write my presentation for next week :(
20:59 cait slides?
21:00 cait he used to send me back to them ... someone made him forget i guess :)
21:03 davidnind Have fun writing the slides, and good luck with the presentation!
21:04 cait thx!
21:05 cait and success for your projects too!
21:05 davidnind thx as well!
21:20 caroline @later tell LeeJ I tried to fill out the docs manager and docs team member section on this page https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]mentation_manager can you review to make sure I didn't write nonsense? (I'm not sure what your specific tasks are, but I wrote what I observed you do :) )
21:20 huginn caroline: The operation succeeded.
21:55 caroline @wunder Montreal, Canada
21:55 huginn caroline: Montreal, Quebec :: Mostly Cloudy :: 50F/10C | Friday: Mainly cloudy. Lows overnight in the low 40s. Friday Night: Partly cloudy skies early will give way to cloudy skies late. Low 41F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph.
21:58 davidnind @wunder Wellington, New Zealand
21:58 huginn davidnind: Wellington, New Zealand :: Overcast :: 61F/16C | Saturday: Windy with rain showers early then partly cloudy for the afternoon. High 51F. Winds S at 25 to 35 mph. Chance of rain 50%. Winds could occasionally gust over 50 mph. Saturday Night: Clear skies. Low 43F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph.
22:02 davidnind I think that is wrong - it's about 1/2 that (about 8C) + raining!
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22:18 caroline @karma caroline
22:18 huginn caroline: Karma for "caroline" has been increased 62 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 62.
22:18 caroline I didn't know you could decrease karma...
22:19 caroline sounds harsh
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22:22 davidnind sounds ... unkind?
22:23 davidnind occasionally karma is reset back to zero - not sure why that happens though...
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22:27 caroline @list
22:27 huginn caroline: Admin, Alias, Bugzilla, Channel, Config, Dict, Dunno, Factoids, Filter, Games, Google, Herald, Internet, Karma, Lart, Later, MARC, Math, MeetBot, Misc, Network, News, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, ReleaseDay, Seen, Todo, URL, Unix, User, Utilities, and Weather
22:29 caroline @factoids
22:29 huginn caroline: I'll give you the answer as soon as RDA is ready
22:30 caroline @MARC 506
22:30 huginn caroline: Information on the restrictions that govern access to or the limited distribution of the described materials. (Repeatable) [a,b,c,d,e,f,u,2,3,5,6,8]
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22:30 caroline cool!
22:30 caroline @Todo
22:30 huginn caroline: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:31 caroline Have a good weekend all!
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