IRC log for #koha, 2018-08-24

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06:49 alex_a bonjour
06:49 wahanui hi, alex_a
06:52 calire hi alex_a
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07:18 cait good morning #koha
07:18 cait happy bug hunt marcelr
07:18 ashimema should yarn.lock really be tracked by git
07:19 ashimema perhaps I'm not understanding what it does
07:19 cait @later tell LeeJ almost always on :)
07:19 huginn` cait: The operation succeeded.
07:19 marcelr hi cait ashimema
07:19 ashimema morning
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07:28 cait morning paul_p
07:28 cait and morning ashimema :)
07:36 tuxayo Hi all o/
07:36 calire o/
07:37 tuxayo ashimema
07:37 tuxayo > should yarn.lock really be tracked by git
07:37 tuxayo Yes it should. It freezes (locks) the versions of the deps
07:38 tuxayo Otherwise, everyone would have differences due to the moment they downloaded them
07:41 tuxayo So this ensures every install runs the same code.
07:42 tuxayo And it's important to update the deps and commit the updates from time to time.
07:47 cait tuxayo++
07:49 tuxayo Will everyone updating it's instance will know that one must re use yarn to get the deps updates?
07:49 tuxayo If not, that might lead to strange bugs :(
07:49 cait do they need to reuse?
07:49 cait we are also committing the css aren't we?
07:49 wahanui okay, cait.
07:50 cait hm noone will ever trigger that... right?
07:50 cait (speaking of teaching wahanui nonsense)
07:54 paxed silly to have "are" as trigger
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08:22 * tuxayo sent a long message:  <[…]WZHyYSRXRPnjcVoXB >
08:23 tuxayo wahanui: are !
08:23 wahanui OK, tuxayo.
08:27 tuxayo wahanui: arr!
08:27 wahanui tuxayo: huh?
08:27 tuxayo wahanui: it's pirate dialect :)
08:27 wahanui tuxayo: i'm not following you...
08:41 cait marcelr: printers is not used
08:41 cait thx for qa, will take a look over the weekend
08:42 marcelr cait: if it is not used, delete it ?
08:42 cait i think that would be  a seprate bug
08:43 cait investigating the ptoentially dead printers code
08:43 marcelr not sure
08:43 cait i think this one is big enough as is
08:43 cait and investigating the possibly dead feature might lead into other traps
08:43 cait and should named in release notes - if you pack it all into that it's really too huge
08:43 marcelr well, all depends on the status
08:44 cait hm?
08:44 cait i am not sure about the svc one
08:44 cait i'll probaby need tcohen for that
08:44 marcelr what about svc ?
08:45 cait admin/, svc/localization Need manage_itemtypes Understand why you do it, but it seems not logical in the long run. Better add a specific one.
08:45 cait i think i would keep it with itemtypes for now
08:45 marcelr i would opt for adding a permission now for localization and printers
08:45 cait and once we add more localization, we fix it
08:45 cait planning for features not even done yet is also a rabbit hole
08:46 marcelr we love rabbits in Koha
08:46 cait i don't think anyone plans on reviving hte printers - we would expose a permission that has no effect whatsoever
08:46 cait because printers is not in the gui
08:47 cait i can file a separate bug to discuss it
08:50 cait i will think about a different perm for localize
08:51 cait but if we add one for printers, i feel like we should have it in the GUI too
08:51 cait on the admin page
08:52 marcelr it would be just for future extension
08:52 marcelr but it is no blocker for me
09:08 cait tcohen: ping :)
09:08 cait marcelr: I'll see what i can do tomorrow :)
09:08 cait thx for catching the typos
09:08 cait it's not a hard patch, but was a lot of writing
09:08 marcelr cait++
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10:32 ashimema oleonard around?
10:34 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #48: UNSTABLE in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/48/
10:37 cait bit too early still i think
10:37 * ashimema needs more tea
10:43 * calire requests tea from ashimema
10:43 ashimema hehe
10:43 ashimema redbush or yorkshire ;)
10:43 calire yorkshire ^^
10:44 calire I'll be stocking up again in Feb
10:58 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #46: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/46/
11:00 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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11:14 * kidclamp waves
11:14 * calire waves
11:20 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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11:29 ashimema what the...
11:29 ashimema how did that happen
11:38 * ashimema corsses fingers that the other ones now magically start to pass again too
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12:16 magnuse anyone around familiar with how EBSCO EDS can do Real-Time Availability Checking against Koha?
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12:27 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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12:40 cait oh IntimidatingPresence...
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12:44 ashimema who hosts docker 3 for jenkins?
12:44 cait hm does someone know if we have a plugin for generating numerus currens callnumbers?
12:44 ashimema looks like it may need a poke
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12:45 * cait is intimidated
12:47 * eythian wants presents!
12:48 cait :)
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12:49 eythian <-- actually, I bought myself one yesterday.
12:50 eythian Good thing the weekend is supposed to have bad weather.
12:50 calire cool!
12:51 cait very cool
12:51 eythian yeah, it should be fun to build.
12:53 cait coworker asks which year? :)
12:53 cait the lego set
12:53 cait lego is about the best thing to connect with my nephew
12:53 eythian I think it's the 1969 one, given that's how many pieces it has.
12:54 eythian[…]lo-Saturn-V-21309
12:54 cait i think he meant the year of the set :)
12:54 cait but that it refelcts int he number of pieces is a nice touch!
12:55 eythian oh, 2017
12:55 eythian maybe 2018
12:57 cait now i want to lego tooo...
12:57 ashimema and me
12:57 eythian I've also heard good things about this one
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13:01 ashimema ooh.. did I just see tcohen
13:02 ashimema is he the one magically fixing my builds in the background I wonder
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13:06 caroline_ good morning!
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13:17 cait good morning caroline_ :)
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13:27 tcohen morning
13:28 ashimema morning tcohen
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13:44 * LeeJ waves
13:44 LeeJ hi #koha
13:45 caroline_ good morning LeeJ :)
13:45 LeeJ morning caroline_ :)
13:48 LeeJ so..anyone have experience/advice/suggestions on how to preserve data in a SQL table when creating a plugin update? :)
13:48 jenkins Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #52: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/52/
13:49 tcohen LeeJ: more specifically?
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13:51 LeeJ tcohen: basically, for my booking plugin currently if someone has say version 1.0.0 installed and they install/upgrade to even version 1.1.4 (which involves schema structure changing with added columns) all the existing data would be deleted
13:51 ashimema yeay, green accross the board again
13:51 LeeJ so I'm trying to devise a way to perform the upgrade without data loss essentially
13:52 tcohen LeeJ: I've talked with khall about it
13:52 ashimema confused.. why would you lose data?
13:52 tcohen until we do something more generic, you should do something like updatedatabase
13:52 ashimema yeah
13:52 tcohen store the plugin version
13:52 * cait waves at LeeJ
13:52 ashimema I'd expect something along those lines in the method that's there for upgrades
13:52 tcohen and compare the code version with the DB info
13:52 ashimema i forget what it's called
13:53 * LeeJ waves back to cait
13:53 LeeJ ah..I figured there was something in the codebase I could reference
13:54 LeeJ you guys are the best :)
13:55 LeeJ of course I'm stupid enough to start a new project the day before the Fall semester starts and I'm taking 4 classes on top of work :P
13:56 cait LeeJ: i seem to remember a bug abut updating plugins
13:56 cait not sure about the status, but it could deal with that
13:56 tcohen LeeJ: that's the normal thing
13:57 LeeJ cait: I'll take a look..thanks :)
13:59 cait LeeJ: bug 20669
13:59 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20669 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Add upgrade method to plugins
13:59 cait needs sign-off *hint*
14:00 LeeJ cait :D
14:01 ashimema ooh.. I thought that was already in master
14:02 ashimema my bad
14:03 cait yeah, we need thing slike that fixed for me to take plugins serious for non-dev users
14:05 LeeJ yes!
14:13 LeeJ cait: however, that bug still doesn't solve my problem of modifying the tables :P
14:15 LeeJ tcohen: I was looking at kitchen sink..does that addition for API endpoints currently work fully???
14:18 tcohen ;-)
14:19 tcohen it requires bug 21116
14:19 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=21116 new feature, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add API routes through plugins
14:19 tcohen which is trivially backportable once is in master
14:19 tcohen I will talk about it in KohaCon
14:20 LeeJ tcohen: oh my god..that would make my life a million times easier
14:20 tcohen as a prototyping tool, and also for too local needs
14:20 LeeJ tcohen: I could use it for the automation workflow I'm attempting to perfect where I work
14:22 tcohen of course, or to replace those ScriptAlias entries plugins used to require...
14:22 tcohen =D =D
14:22 tcohen the universe is your limit
14:23 ashimema But I want to do stuff in another universe tcohen
14:23 tcohen move to perl6
14:23 ashimema How dare you limit me to just my own 😏
14:23 tcohen hahaha
14:23 ashimema Noooo.. run away, run away
14:23 * LeeJ is a firm believer in a multiverse
14:31 cait LeeJ: I imagined it woudl work like our database update - are you changing in a way that is hard to move forward?
14:33 LeeJ cait: it's moreso the hurdle of updating/adding columns without losing data
14:34 cait hm maybe look at our updatedatabase scripts for inspiration?
14:36 LeeJ that's what I'll be doing this afternoon :)
14:40 paul_p_ cait = hello
14:41 paul_p_ cait = Andreas tells me that you'll come to Lulea in Oct. Me too. My trip will be MRS > MUC > ARN > LLA. I'll land in Lulea at 15:30, the 17th. Will we be in the same flight ?
14:56 cait paul_p_: I already told you too - in my emai :)
14:56 cait let me check
14:58 cait SK 10? same day and same time for me
15:01 paul_p_ cait you've booked which hotel Quality or Elite ?
15:01 cait i got booked into quality
15:01 cait i think
15:03 paul_p_ cait when do you fly back home ? I plan to stay for the WE and fly back on sunday
15:03 cait i'll fly back after the event in the evening
15:06 ashimema gmcharlt about?
15:06 ashimema gmcharlt_
15:06 gmcharlt ashimema: what's up/
15:07 ashimema awesome!
15:08 cait :)
15:08 * cait waves at gmcharlt
15:11 * gmcharlt waves back
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16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: DBRev <[…]641165d772380cd0e>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: (RM follow-up) Fix calls and add filter <[…]7ed722ccab0b3feab>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19039: (RM follow-up) Add filters to variables <[…]f5ded68ddc83a8876>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21239: (RM follow-up) regenerate staff css <[…]9d8d33418bda6bf3f>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21239: CSS regressions caused by SCSS move <[…]8aef3152c0de01899>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21237: Clean up staff client SCSS <[…]f61606f2801c87a95>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 21209: (bug 20828 follow-up) Step 4 of moremember is used for Housebound and... <[…]7699d35af27742a83>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: (QA follow-up) Respect ReservesControlBranch <[…]e7eb3ba2f2c7f9dce>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: (QA follow-up) Change Can[Book|Item]BeReserved to return hashref, pass... <[…]d48b56ed36cff3f86>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19039: (follow-up) Results of virtual shelves (lists) not sortable by date <[…]13d8a932469d91783>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 19039: Results of virtual shelves (lists) not sortable by date <[…]cb231b58d031f5f71>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: (QA follow-up) Pass max_holds at the right position in update <[…]d163060813356c130>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: (QA follow-up) Fix meaningless test <[…]338d684c93b2bba5f>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: (QA follow-up) - Change language used <[…]e6dd866cb657de117>
16:30 huginn` News from kohagit: Bug 15524: Set limit on maximum possible holds per patron by category <[…]0c763a77564abca45>
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17:19 ashimema kidclamp brokes it ;)
17:20 LeeJ ashimema: what else is new? :P
17:20 ashimema hehe
17:22 ashimema he's filled up my queue before I've even left :(
17:22 ashimema lol
17:22 ashimema I was all up to date at last
17:22 ashimema :D
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18:09 cmo hi.. i've read a few threads from people with similar problems but not really understood the solutions. i can search my koha library for items, but whenever i search the catalog i get no results. i know it has something to do with zebra but really don't know how to fix it. anyone familiar with this problem can offer some guidance or hint at first steps?
18:10 caroline_ cmo does the cron rebuild_zebra run regularly?
18:10 cmo not sure, but i've called it manually and it didn't help
18:12 caroline_ that was my only idea! sorry! :/
18:12 LeeJ sec
18:13 cmo that's ok, thanks caroline_
18:13 cmo i'm pretty sure i screwed up something with its permissions when i ran it manually as well
18:13 cmo since i used sudo
18:13 cmo it's been about a month since i messed with it
18:16 cmo my library isn't very big so i'm not sure i am benefiting a ton from zebra optimizations... if i can just search my catalog without zebra that would be OK too
18:17 caroline_ I thought it was mandatory, as in it was the search engine, so if you don't have it you can't search. But I may be totally wrong
18:17 caroline_ is your opac public?
18:17 cmo you're probably right, was just hopeful there was an alternative
18:18 cmo i don't think so. i haven't exposed the public-facing website yet. i'm trying to search within the koha admin site
18:18 caroline_ ok
18:19 cmo i'd def like to make it public soon
18:19 cmo this is the only thing stopping me right now
18:22 cmo i've followed these instructions and not really sure why they didn't help[…]ch-stuff-up-help/
18:22 cmo the server is running on a raspberry pi 3 without much other software on it
18:23 caroline_ I wish I could help you more but all the times the search didn't work, I did rebuild_zebra and it worked (and also I'm not a back end person)
18:24 caroline_ LeeJ: did you have any epiphanies?
18:24 cmo np, i'm not in a hurry
18:25 LeeJ caroline_: got interrupted..the downfalls of an easily-accessible office :P
18:25 caroline_ cmo you can try the mailing list too
18:25 cmo will do
18:26 LeeJ cmo: this might come off as a silly question, but have you tried restarting apache?
18:26 caroline_ irc is not the most active at the time of the week ;) (I don't know where you are, but where I am it's friday afternoon so a lot of ppl are gone for the weekend)
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18:29 LeeJ cmo: did you see my last question?
18:30 cmo no, i missed it
18:31 cmo LeeJ: ^
18:33 LeeJ cmo: this might come off as a silly question, but have you tried restarting apache
18:33 LeeJ ?
18:34 cmo hmm, i haven't, the entire system was rebooted when i moved it last week though
18:36 LeeJ was the index working before then?
18:36 LeeJ or has it never worked?
18:36 cmo never
18:40 LeeJ hm
18:42 cmo ok, i sshould have done my hw before asking but i've been putting this off all month, sorry... i'm going through the directions i linked again and seems i'm missing some stuff
18:42 cmo some perl stuff
18:44 LeeJ cmo: I run into that problem of not getting results when I set up kohadevbox but it always works when I run reset_all so here's my suggestion...
18:44 LeeJ[…]s/bash_aliases.j2
18:45 LeeJ look at the command(s) next to "alias reset_all"
18:45 LeeJ that's a place to start
18:45 cmo sounds promising! thanks a lot!
18:45 caroline_ LeeJ++
18:47 LeeJ my pleasure! :)
18:47 LeeJ good luck!
19:48 Joubu LeeJ: seen ?
19:48 wahanui I haven't seen '[…]/kohadocs/pull/1', Joubu
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20:07 Joubu ashimema: it seems that you started typing the release notes for bug 18947, then stopped :)
20:07 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18947 major, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to Stable , Unexpected Active Directory LDAP authentication failure mode
20:26 ashimema That's weird
20:28 ashimema Thought I'd decided not to at all in the end
20:28 ashimema Will remove
20:28 ashimema I bet I missed that in my release notes too
20:44 LeeJ Joubu: hiya! No, I didn't see it..thanks for letting me know!
20:47 LeeJ Joubu: am I able to do anything with it from github...? or do they have to be instructed to do it under gitlab?
20:50 Joubu The idea was to tell them that they should use the gitlab repo, cannot you comment?
20:58 LeeJ Joubu: just did! Wanted to double check with you before I replied
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21:11 caroline_ Can someone explain why sometimes restrictions block circulation ( and sometimes not ( I don't see the logic... :/ Is it different restriction types have different consequences? I've been trying to interpret what the code says, but it's like trying to read italian...
21:13 LeeJ well time to head out for now...I'll be in touch :)
22:08 caroline_ have a good weekend everybody!
22:24 Joubu @later tell caroline it's the permission force_allow, I guess you get screen 2 after screen 1 if you click "override temporarily"
22:24 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
22:27 Joubu @later tell kidclamp I found and fix a bug for 13618, I attached the fix o 13618 as it's trivial
22:27 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
22:29 Joubu @later tell kidclamp DBIC schema changes missing for 15524, it will fix t/db_dependent/Holds.t
22:29 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
22:31 Joubu @later tell tcohen curl still missing on D8, seems that you should cherry-pick the commit from master
22:31 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
22:32 Joubu @later tell tcohen should fix selenium test
22:32 huginn` Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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23:48 mtj hiya tcohen: jenkins says node3 is down.. ive had a look at the VM but cant see a problem - any ideas?
23:52 mtj logs say last attempt was aug-21
23:52 mtj # grep jenkins /var/log/auth.log
23:52 mtj Aug 21 17:42:27 jen3 sshd[3414]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session closed for user jenkins

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