IRC log for #koha, 2018-04-26

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00:03 mtompset @seen kidclamp
00:03 huginn mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 day, 5 hours, 47 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <kidclamp> merry_n try or something similar
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00:39 Guest872 tcohen he was a little salty about it
00:47 mtompset wizzyrea, salty about what?
00:47 wizzyrea developers (who matter) not turning up to the meeting
00:48 mtompset I've stopped paying attention to meetings, because time schedules have been stressing me out.
00:52 mtompset Not to mention... I was at a dentist appointment. I hate dental bills.
00:55 mtompset And thankfully, looking at the agenda... I wasn't one of the ones that mattered.
01:16 wizzyrea you don't have to justify yourself to me ;)
01:51 mtompset I'm sure tcohen scrolls back occasionally. :)
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02:16 mtompset wizzyrea, have you ever created a compound report?
02:19 mtompset @later tell kidclamp Bug 20495 -- Are compound reports even possible now? 'Create Compound Report' only exists in one place.
02:19 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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02:22 wizzyrea I uh
02:22 wizzyrea I don't even know what that is >.>
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02:31 mtompset Okay, it probably is dead code.
02:31 mtompset I'll sign off of his patch then.
02:32 mtompset Oh my... 3.22.x only has one "Create Compound Report"... let's go back further.
02:38 tcohen ?
02:52 tcohen hi mtompset
02:56 mtompset Greetings, tcohen
02:57 mtompset 3.18.x only has one "Create Compound Report"... going back to 3.6.x
03:04 mtompset Wow... not even in 3.6.x?! I believe it is dead code.
03:29 wizzyrea voyager--
03:30 wizzyrea I actually hate it when I teach a migration script to do a thing over 70k records, and the criteria the library gave me literally turns up 0 things that meet that criteria.
03:31 wizzyrea (and no, it's not because I have a bug.)
03:33 tcohen wizzyrea: that's the normal thing when migrating, right?
03:33 wizzyrea it's pretty normal, yeah
03:33 tcohen I've just finished a migration from an alleged format
03:34 wizzyrea but still annoying :)
03:34 tcohen and it was not like they said
03:34 tcohen at all
03:34 wizzyrea hehe "alleged format"
03:34 mtompset voyager? Is that supposed to be a polite vulgarity?
03:34 wizzyrea keke
03:34 wizzyrea this current one is smashing together a Voyager and a Liberty
03:35 wizzyrea overall pretty good fun but library (and people doing the exports) are mmm slightly less than clueful
03:35 wizzyrea BUT in their defense
03:35 wizzyrea they haven't done it since 2004 so
03:35 tcohen "slightly less than clueful" is a very polite insult
03:36 wizzyrea well they're not totally clueless
03:36 wizzyrea ^.^
03:36 * tcohen learns language every day
03:36 tcohen :-D
03:36 wizzyrea hehe
03:37 wizzyrea I could also say "I have worked with people who know more"
03:43 mtompset Right... and "Park elsewhere" is so much better than "Do not park here" or "Parking prohibited". :)
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04:41 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea
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06:10 magnuse \o/
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06:52 alex_a bonjour #koha
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07:13 ere Hi all, anyone running a large Koha installation under VMware?
07:13 ere With Elasticsearch or Zebra?
07:15 ere Large being something like more than a million biblios..
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07:24 ashimema_ In my recent absence, did I miss some interesting DB changes?  Got a number of libraries complaining about reports no longer running since their last upgrade.. The error reported is `illegal mix of collations (utf8_unicode_ci,IMPLICIT) and (utf8_general_ci,IMPLICIT) for operation '='`
07:24 ashimema_ is there a known issue regarding this?
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07:27 reiveune hello
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07:42 gaetan_B hello
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08:46 tuxayo_afk hi ashimema_  from what I understand, in the last two year. At BibLibre we switched all our instances to utf8_unicode_ci.
08:46 tuxayo_afk I don't know why. I've only seen the last checks on our instances when I arrived.
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09:29 ashimema_ thanks tuxayo
09:30 ashimema_ we had already been using utf8_unicode_ci and utf8mb4 encoding for a while but it seems some things have got a bit confused somewhere along the line
09:31 ashimema_ think I've sorted out the customers issues at least now by setting report variables to explicit collations
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10:36 AndrewIsh Hey all, while trying to apply a bug's patches (bug 18837) I'm getting this, anyone got any idea what it means?
10:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18837 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, andrew.isherwood, ASSIGNED , Add an unmediated Interlibrary Loans workflow
10:36 AndrewIsh error: sha1 information is lacking or useless (installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql).
10:36 AndrewIsh error: could not build fake ancestor
10:37 AndrewIsh Google suggests that maybe the patches are dependent on something that master doesn't have, or I could be barking up the wrong tree...
10:44 AndrewIsh OK, seems these patches have majorly diverged, which explains the error. I'll maybe recreate them based on master
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10:49 severine_q Hi #koha ! Can someone explain to me why on the 'borrower_message_preferences' table, 'categorycode' field is not populated ?
10:49 severine_q Is it a known problem, or am I the only one ?
10:51 ere If anyone's interested in testing a significant performance improvement for biblio batch processes, feel free to check out Bug 20664 :)
10:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20664 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, Needs Signoff , Optimize retrieval of biblio and item data
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11:27 kidclamp Joubu++
11:31 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:16 oleonard AndrewIsh: The error you mentioned earlier I would usually interpret like Google did: Missing some dependency.
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12:31 oleonard I really should have started a 'troubleshooting kohadevbox on Windows' document about 2 installations ago
12:31 oleonard I think I always run into domain/dns/apache problems when setting up a new machine :(
12:32 oleonard localhost:8080 works to bring up the OPAC, localhost:8081 brings up the default apache page
12:36 oleonard Any suggestions would be appreciated :(
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12:44 eythian oleonard: check your apache configuration to make sure that :8081 is correctly defined.
12:45 oleonard eythian: I don't really want to use ports, I was just trying it to find out what was working and what wasn't. What I want is my ServerNames to work
12:46 eythian ServerName should just work, but it's not (typically) defined on separate ports.
12:47 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "I read to try 'apache2ctl -S' This is the output" (20 lines) at
12:47 eythian add logging to the default config that it hits to see what it's really seeing, but I'd not use ports to test servername
12:47 eythian because you're not really testing anything useful
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12:53 tcohen morning
12:56 oleonard tcohen: Do you have any suggestions as to why on this new kohadevbox setup my Apache ServerNames aren't working on the Windows host?
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12:58 tcohen you mean your windows browser is not reaching kohadevbox using a FQDN?
12:58 tcohen hi oleonard
12:58 wahanui hi dear loon
12:59 oleonard Yes. And Hi :)
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13:00 tcohen have you tweaked your hosts file?
13:00 tcohen c:\\windows\system\drivers\hosts.txt?
13:00 oleonard Yes
13:00 tcohen I don't remember the path exactly
13:01 tcohen have you tweaked kohadevboox's vars/user.yml to change the default fqdn?
13:01 oleonard Yes
13:01 tcohen I use the default
13:01 tcohen and kohadev.myDNSname.or:8080
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13:12 * oleonard brb
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13:37 oleonard I would like everyone to know that my ServerName issues were resolved with a deep dive into very highly technical network configuration stuff and definitely not a dumb typo. Thanks.
13:42 eythian I'd point and laugh if it weren't for the fact that most of my debug time is spent on the same issue.
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14:23 * ashimema_ cries that we've renamed another method in koha::objects... why replace ->all with ->as_list :(
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14:44 eythian ashimema_: have a few beers, run a git blame, send an angry email.
14:44 * eythian is a problem solver!
14:45 ashimema_ haha.. #
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14:46 merry_n Hi everyone
14:46 merry_n So, another beginner's question: I need a field removed from the Normal view display in OPAC. How do I do that?
14:46 * ashimema_ is trying to get away from 'sending angry email' mentality.. I just have a feeling I'm never going to fall in love with Koha::Objects after having got so accustomed to DBIx::Class natively.. i'd be happy to walk away from dbic.. but not to something that basically just appears to try and replicate it badly ;)
14:47 * ashimema_ moves on quickly and eats a biscuit (safer than beer)
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14:55 oleonard merry_n: Do you have the OPACXSLTDetailsDisplay system preference set to "default" ?
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14:57 merry_n oleonard, yes
14:58 oleonard merry_n: You have the option of specifying a path in that preference to an alternate XSLT stylesheet
14:58 oleonard You'd have to get a copy of the default, make the necessary changes, and then post the file where Koha could see it
14:59 oleonard I guess I should ask, merry_n, what are you hoping to remove?
14:59 merry_n <oleonard> Thank you! I guess I just needed  confirmation that this is done through XSLT...
15:03 merry_n <oleonard> 200 sub-field 5 (UNIMARC)
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15:04 oleonard Yes, that sounds like something which could be customized by editing XSLT
15:05 merry_n <oleonard> Thanks again!
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15:54 DonnaB .
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16:25 sub-sailor Could someone help me here — never seen this before: /cgi-bin/koha/installer/ was not found on this server.
16:25 sub-sailor Ubuntu 16.04
16:25 wahanui Ubuntu 16.04 is the new LTS release.
16:26 sub-sailor That’s what I’m using — just never seen this error before
16:26 oleonard ignore wahanui, sub-sailor, they're a bot.
16:26 sub-sailor Got it
16:26 sub-sailor tks
16:27 oleonard sub-sailor: Are you setting up a new Koha installation?
16:27 sub-sailor Yes I was … but with this error I was expecting a locked file but it is showing no file at all
16:28 oleonard Did you  navigate directly to that location or did you get redirected there when you tried to access the staff client?
16:30 sub-sailor When I tried to access the staff client — URL:8080 and this is what showed up… on port 80 I have the page showing
16:30 sub-sailor I must have screwed somthing up somewhere…
16:31 oleonard Sorry sub-sailor I don't know what to suggest.
16:32 sub-sailor That’s fine — I thank you for tring anyhow…. I’m just going to reload the server and start over
16:32 sub-sailor tks again
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16:43 mtompset @seen cait
16:43 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 20 hours, 19 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <cait> LeeJ: i tihnk one place would be good, people have also been filing bugs in bugzilla with module documentation
16:44 mtompset Is anyone here familiar with the opac routing lists?
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17:29 tuxayo_afk Hi :) , does anyone know how to be in a realistic situation (not migration) where an item has an itemtype not in the itemtype table.
17:30 tuxayo_afk Something like using authorized values like ccode to populate the itemtypes of the biblioitems but I know at all these things :(
17:36 mtompset tuxayo, wouldn't you need to SQL update on the backend?
17:37 mtompset tuxayo, want an "easy" sign off?
17:37 mtompset bug 20666
17:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20666 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Wrong Permissions prevent non-plack pages to load
17:37 mtompset I say "easy", because it was so convoluted to get routing lists to work.
17:37 mtompset But it is easy, if you already have them working. :)
17:39 oleonard tuxayo: Catalogers here do some cataloging outside of Koha and then import records. If they have made a typo when entering the item type or collection code an error could get in that way.
17:44 tuxayo mtompset: you mean running SQL directly in the DBMS? That wouldn't be a "normal" way to get there. I'm trying to find realistic test plan:
17:44 tuxayo https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g.cgi?id=20623#c4
17:44 tuxayo «if you already have them working.» If I don't know what is a routing list, does that mean that mean that it will be hard ^^"
17:44 tuxayo Wait, is that the way to help transfering a collection of item between sites?
17:44 huginn Bug 20623: minor, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, ASSIGNED , PDF export of a basket group fails when an item has an itemtype that is not in the itemtype table
17:44 tuxayo oleonard:  can one reproduce such imports or is done direclty in the DB?
17:45 oleonard tuxayo: The catalogers stage and import files of MARC records
17:48 mtompset oleonard++ # RIGHT... import something that doesn't have a matching DB code.
17:50 tuxayo oleonard: thanks, I'll dig that :) It's seems everything starts here: /cgi-bin/koha/tools/
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17:55 tuxayo manual++
17:55 tuxayo It's all I needed:[…]ecords-for-import
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18:14 mtompset tuxayo, you should thank LeeJ for his continued work on the manual. :)
18:14 mtompset LeeJ++ # Thanks for working on documentation. :)
18:33 magnuse LeeJ++
18:36 oleonard Bug 20667
18:36 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20667 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Update two-column templates with Bootstrap grid: Acquisitions part 1
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18:57 oleonard Bye #koha
18:59 magnuse i just upgraded a server from 17.11.04 to 17.11.05, but "about koha" still says anyone else seen that?
19:00 magnuse the opac has <meta name="generator" content="Koha 17.1105000" />
19:00 tcohen service memcached restart ; service koha-common restart
19:01 magnuse tcohen++
19:02 magnuse the last one did it. no memcached on this testing server
19:02 tcohen memcached sucks, it should be all L1 cache
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