IRC log for #koha, 2018-01-12

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00:40 oleonard @wunder 45701
00:40 huginn oleonard: Athens, OH :: Rain :: 55F/13C | Thursday: Mainly cloudy and rainy. Lows overnight in the low 50s. Thursday Night: Periods of rain. Low 51F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 70%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
00:40 oleonard Yes.
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01:03 wizzyrea @wunder nzwn
01:03 huginn wizzyrea: Wellington International, New Zealand :: Overcast :: 63F/17C | Friday: Cloudy and windy. High 67F. Winds ESE at 20 to 30 mph. Winds could occasionally gust over 40 mph. Friday Night: Cloudy skies this evening will become partly cloudy after midnight. Low 61F. Winds ENE at 10 to 20 mph.
01:03 wizzyrea squeeeeee
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01:35 barton|laptop @later tell barton test
01:35 huginn barton|laptop: The operation succeeded.
01:39 barton|laptop @seen tcohen
01:39 huginn barton|laptop: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 week, 1 day, 7 hours, 41 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <tcohen> ?
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07:22 marcelr hi #koha
07:25 cait good morning marcelr!
07:26 marcelr hi cait
07:32 cait have to run, bbl! :)
07:32 cait @wunder Konstanz
07:32 huginn cait: Konstanz, Germany :: Overcast :: 38F/3C | Wind Chill: 34F/1C | Friday: Considerable cloudiness. High 41F. Winds light and variable. Friday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Scattered frost possible. Low 32F. Winds light and variable.
07:32 cait it's pretty grey outside, in other words
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07:40 alex_a bonjour
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07:57 eythian @wunder amsterdam
07:57 huginn eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Overcast :: 41F/5C | Wind Chill: 38F/3C | Friday: Cloudy this morning. A few showers developing during the afternoon. High 42F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Friday Night: Mostly cloudy. Low 37F. Winds SE at 5 to 10 mph.
07:57 eythian hey, the bot is back!
07:57 eythian its temperature units are broken though, hopefully someone fixes that.
07:57 eythian also its wind speed
08:02 alex_a @wunder Gueret
08:02 huginn alex_a: Gueret, France :: Overcast :: 39F/4C | Wind Chill: 35F/2C | Friday: Showers early, then cloudy in the afternoon. High 42F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 40%. Friday Night: Partly cloudy skies. Scattered frost possible. Low 32F. Winds ESE at 5 to 10 mph.
08:03 alex_a "Chance of rain 40%" lol
08:03 alex_a has been raining continuously for 15 days here
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08:08 eythian it's right so long as it doesn't say 0% I guess...
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08:09 gaetan_B hello
08:09 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B
08:09 reiveune hello
08:12 matts hellow
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08:34 clrh hello
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09:06 fridolin hi
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09:38 * cait waves
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10:09 josef_moravec hi cait
10:12 cait hi josef_moravec :)
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10:42 marcelr hi josef_moravec and kidclamp
10:42 kidclamp morning
10:42 josef_moravec hi marcelr
10:42 josef_moravec hi kidclamp
10:42 kidclamp er...good time of day
10:43 * cait waves in all directions
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10:46 saa wrongly an item is attached to other record
10:46 saa how to undo this action
10:49 cait go to the record it belongs to, edit > attach item and scan the barcode
11:07 magnuse ~~~
11:07 * magnuse has learned a little bit more about GDPR
11:07 magnuse cait: is that high on your agenda?
11:10 cait I have a meeting this afternoon about it
11:10 cait but so far it's mostly updating paperwork for us afaikt
11:19 magnuse cait: ok
11:38 * cait is strangely surprised to find the ethnotes, ethnicity things still in her old databases
11:38 cait shoudl have been removed with a pre 3.22 update
11:39 cait 11054 $DBversion = "";
11:40 cait it's because the database update didn't check for "" as empty
11:40 cait gah.
11:44 cait bug 19963
11:44 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19963 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , ethnicity and ethnicity tables and columns survived update
11:48 magnuse getting close to bug number 20000!
11:49 magnuse the deletedborrowers table is not good news in gdpr context, i think
11:49 cait i filed a bug that we need a delete script for that ages ago i think
11:49 cait it was never good news
11:50 cait gdpr or not
11:50 cait hm found another forgot to delete table... fundmapping
11:50 cait odd.
11:50 cait also pre 3.2
11:50 magnuse bug 13667
11:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13667 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Provide script to regularly clean deletedpatrons table
11:51 cait oh typoed
11:52 cait updated the bug
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12:15 magnuse added some content to https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nd_patron_privacy, not sure if the format is good
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12:28 oleonard Hello
12:30 magnuse hiya oleonard
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12:38 tcohen morning
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13:00 cait morning tcohen
13:00 cait why are yo here? :)
13:03 Joubu cait: locales/es/LC_MESSAGES/01_installation.po:msgid "|image1174|"
13:03 Joubu locales/es/LC_MESSAGES/01_installation.po:msgstr "|imagen1174|"
13:04 Joubu and
13:04 Joubu locales/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/01_installation.po:msgid "|image1174|"
13:04 Joubu locales/zh_TW/LC_MESSAGES/​01_installation.po:msgstr "|圖片1174|"
13:04 Joubu translators translated what they should not have translated... :-/
13:04 Joubu and hi #koha!
13:05 Joubu @wunder Buenos Aires, Argentina
13:05 huginn Joubu: Buenos Aires, Argentina :: Partly Cloudy :: 84F/29C | Heat Index: 88F/31C | Friday: Scattered clouds with the possibility of an isolated thunderstorm developing this afternoon. High 89F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 30%. Friday Night: Mostly clear skies this evening. Scattered showers and thunderstorms developing overnight. Low 78F. Winds NE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of (1 more message)
13:05 Joubu gmcharlt++ :)
13:06 oleonard @wunder 45701
13:06 huginn oleonard: Athens, OH :: Overcast :: 56F/14C | Friday: Cloudy with periods of rain. Morning high of 56F with temps falling sharply to near freezing. SSW winds shifting to N at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a half an inch. Friday Night: A wintry mix this evening will transition to mainly snow overnight. Low 17F. Winds N at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of precip 100%. Snow and ice (1 more message)
13:06 oleonard So detailed!
13:06 eythian non-standard units though :/
13:07 oleonard True. Burn it down.
13:07 eythian It's the only way to be sure
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13:08 cait Joubu: hm true, maybe a note on the wiki... at least?
13:09 cait i think knowing which image it#s referring to might be nice compared to substituting with %s
13:11 cait or is it just the image tags and nothing else? then maybe we could filter
13:12 cait https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]anual#Image_names
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13:35 magnuse @wunder boo
13:35 huginn magnuse: Bootle, United Kingdom :: Overcast :: 43F/6C | Wind Chill: 37F/3C | Friday: Cloudy skies. High 42F. Winds SE at 10 to 20 mph. Friday Night: Overcast. Low near 40F. Winds SE at 15 to 25 mph.
13:35 magnuse nah
13:35 magnuse @wunder bodø, norway
13:35 huginn magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway
13:35 magnuse @wunder bodo, norway
13:35 huginn magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Mostly Cloudy :: 41F/5C | Wind Chill: 35F/2C | Friday: Cloudy with showers. High around 40F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40%. Friday Night: A few clouds. Low near 30F. Winds E at 10 to 20 mph.
13:39 magnuse winter took a break
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14:12 cait Joubu: bororwers.lastseen gets only updated on login?
14:12 Joubu yes
14:13 cait thx :)
14:13 Joubu it was too "heavy" to update it every time they load a page
14:13 cait it's alright
14:14 cait i have to document the columns in borrowers for our data privacy documentation
14:14 cait so wanted to make sure i got it right :)
14:16 cait now all that is left is checkprevcheckout
14:18 cait hm i have turnd on the feature, but i don't see it in the patron record
14:18 cait can someone help?
14:20 Joubu patron category?
14:20 wahanui well, patron category is in the works ... gimme a sec.
14:20 cait ah so it works like privavy
14:20 Joubu it's defined at 3 levels: pref, patron category, and finally patron
14:20 cait gotit
14:20 cait but you can't seem to change it on the patron record?
14:21 Joubu yes
14:21 cait yes = no change?
14:21 Joubu yes you can :)
14:21 Joubu let me check
14:23 Joubu cait: pref="unless overridden, do"
14:24 cait aha!
14:24 cait i thkn that got a bit lost in the german translation
14:24 Joubu than, patron cat ="Check for previous checkouts: "
14:24 Joubu and on the patron card, in the "Library management" section
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14:27 cait thx Joubu!
14:28 cait Joubu: hm still not seeing it :(
14:28 cait tried all 4 settings now
14:28 cait ok, i am just blind
14:28 cait it's all there
14:29 tuxayo oleonard_: «tuxayo: You should add yourself:»
14:29 tuxayo Thanks, I didn't know about this file.
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14:34 oleonard You're welcome tuxayo.
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15:38 bouzid Hi all, I have question about analytics,  right now , the child id is stored in 773 of record mother and mother id is stored in 773 of record child. is it correct or I don't understand correctly?
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15:42 cait how do you create the link?
15:42 cait with easyanalytics or with the 'add analytics' menu entry?
15:43 cait EasyAnaltics is a bit non-standard, so not sure there, 773 is host item entry, I would only expect it in the child record
15:48 cait jajm++ marcelr++ josef_moravec++ :)
15:49 bouzid I use Link a host item
15:49 cait in the item?
15:49 cait that's easyanaltics then, I don't know how that works
15:49 cait we can't use it in our environment because it doesn't work with UseControlnumber
15:50 cait oleonard: around?
15:50 oleonard yes
15:50 cait we have some buttons in circ that indicate you can use them with keys
15:50 cait (Y) (N)
15:50 bouzid tanks cait
15:50 cait that never works for me just pressing the key... am i missing something?
15:51 oleonard cait: They're supposed to work with the browser's accesskey function.
15:51 cait can you explain?
15:51 cait is that another key combination you need to add/configure?
15:52 oleonard[…]_html-access-keys
15:52 oleonard By default in Firefox, for instance, it's Shift + Alt + (accesskey)
15:52 cait i will try that - thank you!
15:53 cait one more koha riddle solved :)
15:53 oleonard It's not ideal.
15:54 cait does rancor use the same technique?
15:55 oleonard I do not know
16:05 cait oleonard++ :)
16:12 clrh bye all
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16:27 mtompset @seen marcelr
16:27 huginn mtompset: marcelr was last seen in #koha 5 hours, 45 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <marcelr> hi josef_moravec and kidclamp
16:28 mtompset @later tell marcelr But // -1 vs longer uglier if... I like pretty code. :(
16:28 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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16:45 reiveune bye
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17:35 mtompset @seen Joubu
17:35 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 10 minutes, and 30 seconds ago: <Joubu> and on the patron card, in the "Library management" section
17:54 tuxayo Hi, doesn't handle well syspref item-level_itypes="biblio record" being because it displays the of itype the item. I order to fix this, I need to reproduce the issue on my machine but can get "an item to not have an itype" Is that actually what I need to do?
17:57 cait you need to set tthe pref
17:57 cait and then add the itemtpye to 942$... i forgot
17:57 cait c
17:57 cait and if the itemtype is set to mandatory in 952$y on your system, remove that in your framework configuration
18:05 tuxayo cait: I was suspecting (but fearing that it could be a wrong direction) that editing the framework would be necessary, thanks for confirming this :)
18:06 cait hm the fields i gave you are for marc21... didn't think of unimarc
18:06 cait sorry, bit tired already
18:06 cait bbl
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18:07 mtompset Greetings, tuxayo!
18:07 mtompset I'm testing it in a bit... :)
18:11 tuxayo cait: no problem, that's a good opportunity to learn about this :)
18:11 tuxayo mtompset hi, thanks for you help! I hope I didn't break anything. This translatable CSV generation is tricky ><
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18:16 bag @wunder palm springs, ca
18:16 huginn bag: Palm Springs, CA :: Clear :: 67F/19C | Friday: Sunny. High 77F. Winds light and variable. Friday Night: Mostly clear. Low 59F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph.
18:23 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5
18:23 huginn mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: l7e5y5
18:23 mtompset @wunder L7E 5Y5
18:23 huginn mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: L7E 5Y5
18:23 mtompset @wunder L7E5Y5
18:23 huginn mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: L7E5Y5
18:23 mtompset @wunder toronto
18:23 huginn mtompset: Toronto, Prince Edward Island :: Mostly Cloudy :: 54F/12C | Friday: Cloudy and windy. High 56F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph. Friday Night: Windy with evening showers evolving to a steady, soaking rain overnight. Areas of dense fog. Low 51F. Winds SSW at 20 to 30 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall around a quarter of an inch.
18:23 mtompset @wunder toronto, ontario
18:23 huginn mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: toronto, ontario
18:24 mtompset @wunder Orangeville,ON
18:24 huginn mtompset: Error: I could not find a valid location for: Orangeville,ON
18:24 mtompset @wunder Orangeville
18:24 huginn mtompset: Orangeville, Ontario :: Snow :: 19F/-7C | Wind Chill: 4F/-15C | Friday: Snow likely. Some sleet or freezing rain possible. High 23F. Winds NNW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 100%. Snow accumulating 3 to 5 inches. Friday Night: Cloudy skies. Low 2F. Winds N at 15 to 25 mph.
18:24 mtompset It got the wrong Toronto. :(
18:25 mtompset It's freezing rain right now.
18:28 ebegin @wunder montreal, canada
18:28 huginn ebegin: Montreal, Quebec :: Rain :: 52F/11C | Friday: Periods of rain. High 51F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Friday Night: Some sleet or freezing rain possible early. Rain and snow this evening turning to all snow overnight. Low 12F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of snow 100%. 8 to 12 inches of snow expected.
18:29 mtompset Not as cold as here, it would seem, ebegin
18:30 mtompset Okay... just ran a reset_all tuxayo ... testing commencing. :)
18:30 ebegin mtompset: it's exceptionally warm today ;)
18:30 mtompset Our exceptionally warm was yesterday.
18:31 mtompset But it was very wet and raining.
18:34 ebegin concerning bouzid question earlier, we noted the host bib contains its children in the 773 field.  From my understanding of the MARC21 standards, the child should have its host in 774 and each child should have its host in 773.  Am I missing something ?
18:36 ebegin 773 - Host Item Entry
18:36 ebegin 774 - Constituent Unit Entry
18:50 mtompset tuxayo: Okay... I see that the patch works correctly against baskets, basketgroups, and lateorders... why do you have the fr-FR language stuff as part of your test plan?
18:54 mtompset OH.. to confirm the template generation for that language.
18:54 mtompset Right...
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18:58 tuxayo mtompset: yes, to confirm that the translatability of some parts of the CSV still works.
18:59 tuxayo Any language will do since the test must edit the .po after updating them.
19:06 mtompset Strange... I would have expected the missing hypens to matter.
19:07 mtompset Seems that they did not.
19:07 oleonard khall around?
19:07 khall oleonard: yep!
19:08 oleonard I'm testing patron merges, and everything looks good so far. I'm wondering if the "old" patron record should be added to deletedborrowers?
19:09 mtompset tuxayo: Did you run the koha qa test tools on this?
19:11 khall oleonard: I hadn't thought of that, seems like a reasonable thing to do
19:12 oleonard I think so. (Not that anything ever returns from deletedborrowers?)
19:12 khall oleonard: yeah, it's really only for manual patron restoration. And a history of a sort
19:14 khall oleonard: it should already do that!
19:14 khall my code calls Koha::Patron::delete which copies the patron to the deletedborrowers table before deleting it
19:15 oleonard Hm, then something's not working. :(
19:17 ebegin I don't know if you notice, but since few months, most inLibro staff dedicate there Friday afternoon working on community tasks :)
19:19 khall oleonard: I'll poke around
19:20 oleonard Thanks khall
19:21 khall oleonard: I was wrong. I'll implement that!
19:23 khall oleonard: fixed!
19:26 barton Margaret:
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19:59 oleonard Happy weekend #koha
20:00 tuxayo mtompset: «I would have expected the missing hypens to matter.» → Me too
20:00 tuxayo koha qa test tools: maybe it's time for me to learn what these are ^^"
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