IRC log for #koha, 2017-12-19

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06:10 josef_moravec morning #koha
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07:52 alex_a bonjour
07:58 josef_moravec @seen jajm
07:58 huginn josef_moravec: jajm was last seen in #koha 5 days, 15 hours, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <jajm> Joubu, ok
07:59 josef_moravec @later ask jajm: Are you going to continue work on bug  15516 ?
07:59 huginn josef_moravec: I suck
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08:03 josef_moravec @later tell jajm Are you going to continue work on bug 15516?
08:03 huginn josef_moravec: The operation succeeded.
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08:12 gaetan_B hello
08:12 josef_moravec hi gaetan_B
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08:24 tuxayo josef_moravec: jajm will be back next year
08:24 tuxayo ^^
08:25 josef_moravec thanks tuxayo
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08:40 cait good morning #koha :)
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09:04 josef_moravec hi cait
09:05 cait hi josef_moravec :)
09:05 cait could you do a quick qa on some first timer patches I signed off this morning and last night?
09:05 cait mostly string changes
09:05 josef_moravec of course I can ;)
09:09 cait do you need the numbers? they probably have the newest time changed int he queue or are among them, 6 bugs
09:14 josef_moravec are they 18819, 19713, 19714, 19510, 18313 and 13676?
09:16 cait bug 18819
09:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18819 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Passed QA , Correct "whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe." in web installer files
09:16 cait looks about right :)
09:17 josef_moravec cait: working on it ;)
09:17 cait thx a lot .)
09:18 cait I still need to post some thoughts about the results of the little survey
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09:52 cait josef_moravec++
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12:49 oleonard Hi all
12:49 josef_moravec hi oleonard
12:49 wahanui hi oleopard
12:51 andreashm hi
12:51 andreashm josef_moravec: any luck with testing bug 10662?
12:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
12:52 josef_moravec andreashm: Not much... I was able to set things, define a source, the harvester is downloading records, but not importing into Koha, I'am investigating why...
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12:57 cait josef_moravec++
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13:11 andreashm josef_moravec++
13:11 andreashm josef_moravec: are you harvesting marc or rdf? or both?
13:11 josef_moravec I started to harvest marcxml
13:12 josef_moravec would like to try rdf too when I found some source ;)
13:12 andreashm ok, I've managed that before.
13:12 andreashm (marcxml)
13:12 josef_moravec I too when I was testing it first time some months ago...
13:12 andreashm you can harvest rdfxml from LIBRIS (Swedish union catalogue)
13:13 cait maybe it needs to be adapted to sme changes?
13:13 andreashm say[…]dataPrefix=rdfxml
13:14 andreashm cait: yeah possibly.
13:14 josef_moravec cait: probably yes
13:14 * andreashm needs to find time to set up a test environment for 10662
13:14 josef_moravec andreashm: I use kohadevbox for it now
13:14 andreashm does that work?
13:14 cait bug 10662
13:14 wahanui it has been said that bug 10662 is a catch all at the moment
13:14 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10662 new feature, P3, ---, dcook, Needs Signoff , Build OAI-PMH Harvesting Client
13:14 andreashm I was under the impression that it couldn't be tested using devbox
13:15 cait move of marcxml column?
13:15 josef_moravec andreashm: it could, it's just David is not using devbox, so he does not test it on devbox
13:15 josef_moravec you just need to copy the config to /etc/koha
13:16 andreashm ah ok cool
13:16 andreashm then I'll try it out sooner
13:16 josef_moravec andreashm: thanks for the link to libris oai, looks perfect for testing ;)
13:16 andreashm josef_moravec: np
13:17 andreashm we used that fo our rdf project
13:17 andreashm for
13:18 andreashm ok, I gotta go. bye #koha
13:18 josef_moravec by andreashm
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13:42 fridolin koha-perldeps unstable is still 17.06.01
13:43 fridolin mmm
13:43 fridolin is it normal ?
13:43 Joubu drojf[m]: ^
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13:44 Joubu better to email him directly
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13:55 fridolin Joubu: thanks
14:11 Joubu Bug 19808 is critical and NSO, It would be good to have it backported for the next stable branches which will be released in few days
14:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19808 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Reviews from deleted patrons make few scripts to explode
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14:19 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 19714: Removing 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution <[…]afd487ce506fabadf> / Bug 19510: Add description for edi_manage in acquistion permissions <[…]95e2d8fe1ee34cac1>
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14:41 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Jessica Freeman <[…]084736b91317e63ee> / Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Chris Weeks <[…]4f500b2df244599c0>
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14:58 josef_moravec bye #koha
14:59 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #315: UNSTABLE in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/315/
14:59 jenkins * chrisweeks: Bug 19510: Add description for edi_manage in acquistion permissions
14:59 jenkins * jessicafreeman: Bug 19714: Removing 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution
15:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19510 trivial, P5 - low, ---, chrisweeks, Pushed to Master , edi_manage permission has no description
15:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19714 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jessicafreeman, Pushed to Master , 2 occurrences of memberofinstitution have not been removed
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15:06 Joubu khall: could you take a look at bug 19696 please?
15:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19696 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , HoldsQueue.t is failing randomly
15:06 Joubu Jenkins is failing randomly on this test, but I cannot figure out why
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15:07 Joubu the holds queue is created in the wrong order, sometimes...
15:09 Joubu khall: I guess the reservedate=CURRENT_DATE() should be adjusted, to have reservedate with different values
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15:29 Joubu @later tell fridolin ping on bug 17951 please
15:29 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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15:41 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
15:41 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
15:41 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #316: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/316/
15:41 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Chris Weeks
15:41 jenkins * Jonathan Druart: Bug 7143: Update about page for new dev - Jessica Freeman
15:42 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7143 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Master , Bug for tracking changes to the about page
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17:08 * oleonard remembers he needs to buy a new bag of kidclamp food
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17:24 cait oleonard: what does it consist of?
17:25 oleonard No idea, but it comes in a convenient 50 pound bag.
17:25 cait handy
17:54 Joubu oleonard: why are we the only 2 to think the preview for notices is awesome?
17:54 oleonard :)
18:42 greenjimll Just a heads up: bug 19724 means that reset_all on kohadevbox doesn't build a working database, because the file /home/vagrant/misc4dev/data/sql/marc21/1611/after_17196/biblio_metadata.sql no longer has the right number of values for the columns in the biblio_metadata table.
18:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19724 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Add timestamp to biblio_metadata and deletedbiblio_metadata
18:43 cait maybe file an issue on kohadevbox?
18:43 cait i think the script is specific to it, so needs to be fixed there probably
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18:44 greenjimll I'm going to but I thought I'd point this out here as other folk might smash into it if they regularly blow away their kohadevbox DB like I do. ;-)
18:46 Joubu it is fied
18:46 Joubu fied
18:47 Joubu I sent an email to koha-devel on December 7th
18:48 Joubu greenjimll: ^
18:49 greenjimll Ah, sorry, didn't spot that and it didn't pop up in my Google searches.  Oh well, the issue on kohadevbox can be closed quickly then!
18:59 Joubu you close it without the solution :)
19:00 Joubu bug 19798
19:00 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19798 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , doesn't define itemnumber for transfer-slip.
19:00 Joubu must be SO/QA and backported ASAP
19:01 Joubu it's critical actually
19:01 * Joubu still does not have a big red button...
19:11 greenjimll Testing Bug 19808 but I don't seem to be able to make master blow up!
19:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19808 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Reviews from deleted patrons make few scripts to explode
19:13 greenjimll Ah ha, a restart_all gets me the 500 error.
19:15 oleonard greenjimll: I was just testing that too but got interrupted. Looks okay to me except that in the OPAC the comment labels don't look right when there is no patron
19:15 oleonard Instead of "Added 2016-12-19 by John Smith" it says "Added"
19:16 greenjimll Is this in
19:16 oleonard
19:16 oleonard ...and that led me to notice that the reviews table isn't storing the date of submitted reviews
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19:20 greenjimll Ah yes, I see what you mean.  Incidentally is the terminology of "comments" and "reviews" could do with being a bit more consistent.
19:21 oleonard The interface should always say "comments"
19:21 oleonard The file names and db lag behind that change
19:21 greenjimll I spent a while looking for a separate "reviews" section. :-)
19:22 greenjimll I tend to think of "comments" as short notes, whereas "reviews" are something a bit more lengthy and in depth. Probably just me though.
19:23 greenjimll It does seem to fix the problem though... so is it worth signing off or is the "Added" something that needs fixing first?
19:23 Joubu oleonard: I am gonna fix it right now
19:25 greenjimll Rightio, I'll hold off signing off on this then, and go home for my tea. :-)
19:26 Joubu datereviewed is not supposed to be null
19:26 Joubu and it is
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20:02 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software
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20:48 rangi Joubu: hmm the db_dependent/Bookseller.t fails on master for me too
20:49 pastebot "rangi" at pasted "Joubu it is failing here for me on master" (37 lines) at
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23:06 KotH a wonderfull good evening!
23:06 KotH i come here, with the eternal question of what I should do if i cannot find a MARC entry for a book online
23:07 KotH are there some #exactsteps how to create one?
23:07 KotH currently it just looks like black magic ^^'
23:09 cait i think on there is something like a tutorial
23:09 cait but marc is a bit like black magic :)
23:10 KotH ^^'
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23:10 wizzyrea my advice is: tab through tab 0, put in a 100a and a 245a, fill in the required fields on tab 9
23:11 wizzyrea ISBN if you must
23:11 wizzyrea the record won't be complete, but it will at least turn up in your catalogue.
23:11 KotH and what is the implications of having a non-complete record?
23:13 wizzyrea none really
23:13 wizzyrea if you aren't sharing the record and it's only for you
23:13 wizzyrea pf who cares.
23:14 wizzyrea Koha certainly doesn't care.
23:14 KotH it's veeeery unlikely that i'm going to share those records with anyone... it's just my private library :)
23:14 KotH wizzyrea: thanks!
23:14 wizzyrea there you go. :)
23:14 wizzyrea no worries
23:15 sen So I'm just getting started with Koha, I've got a biblio entry for something (via copy cataloging from a Z39.50 source), but when I try to add a holding entry for that, all the dropdown boxes say "No matches found". Did I miss a setup step somewhere?
23:15 wizzyrea sen: did you install the default values for authorised values?
23:16 wizzyrea lots of people don't and then wonder why there are no values in the drop downs. Some of that sample data shouldn't be optional.
23:17 wizzyrea (we tried to fix it but it was hard (tm) because of translatability)
23:17 sen Ahh, "authorised values" is the keyword I wasn't coming up with, thank you! Now I've found the area where that all gets entered and I can sort it out. I must have missed that checkbox during setup, yep! Is there an easy way to do it now, or am I entering things by hand?
23:17 wizzyrea well, if you are server savvy
23:17 wizzyrea (are you? how do you feel about the command line?)
23:18 KotH wizzyrea: btw: long long ago, ie in august, we discussed label printing for koha. and you asked that i'd tell you what i choose to do. I ended up writing a short perl script that generates png and another (not so short) perl script that interfaces to the labelprinter
23:18 sen I'm server savvy, have been a DBA and a sysadmin in past lives :)
23:18 wizzyrea neat
23:18 wizzyrea ok so you can do
23:19 wizzyrea cat /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/insta​ller/data/mysql/en/optional/auth_val.sql | sudo koha-mysql <instancename>
23:19 wizzyrea instancename whatever you named your instance
23:19 wizzyrea you can see with sudo koha-list --enabled
23:19 wizzyrea KotH: I don't remember this but I've slept since then :)
23:20 wizzyrea you might also want, from that same directory
23:20 wizzyrea sample_itemtypes.sql
23:20 wizzyrea patron_categories.sql
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23:22 KotH ok,... who do i have to hug for the tag editor?
23:22 KotH that thing is great! why haven't i seen that before?
23:22 wizzyrea not sure what you mean but glad you are happy :)
23:23 KotH this small, rectangular icon at the right side of fields i have no idea what they mean
23:23 KotH pops up a window with drop down boxes
23:23 wizzyrea that's been there forever
23:23 sen wizzyrea: I did import patron categories and item types, just not authorised values :) trying this now.
23:23 wizzyrea since marc was included in Koha pretty much
23:24 wizzyrea sen: cool beans :)
23:25 sen Much better! Thanks so much, that would have taken me forever to figure out on my own.
23:26 wizzyrea if you are inclined, a possible thing would be to patch the installer so that at least the text on that one says "hey you might actually really want these"
23:27 wizzyrea so as to keep future you-alikes from having the same problem :)
23:31 sen Heh, makes sense! I'll see if I can figure out where that is and do so.
23:31 KotH wizzyrea: what's the purpose of 100a? the documentation on doesnt make sense to me
23:32 wizzyrea that's the author
23:32 wizzyrea the person who wrote it
23:32 KotH isnt that 245c?
23:32 wizzyrea not strictly speaking no
23:33 wizzyrea Generally speaking, the 100a is the place for a single author. In your case, where you just want the record in, it's the right place for it.
23:33 KotH ok...
23:34 KotH i just got puzzled because none of the entries i got have 100a defined
23:34 wizzyrea that seems like you got not good marc records.
23:35 * KotH shrugs
23:35 wizzyrea (it doesn't matter if you are happy with the display though)
23:35 KotH half of them are from the library of congress, the other half from the swiss library network
23:35 wizzyrea maybe the records are in unimarc?
23:35 KotH uhmm... what's that? ^^'
23:35 wizzyrea idk what they use in switzerland
23:35 wizzyrea there are different standards in different places, for MARC
23:36 wizzyrea USMARC is what LOC will use, and what I am referencing
23:36 wizzyrea UNIMARC is mostly france, and some of europe
23:36 wizzyrea I know exactly 0 about unimarc.
23:36 KotH if france uses unimarc, then switzerland is likely to use it as well
23:36 wizzyrea except that it exists ;)
23:37 wizzyrea pass, I can make no assertion of knowledge there
23:37 KotH ok.. i checked more books, some have an 100a, some dont
23:37 KotH does it matter whether i mix them?
23:38 KotH beside having a mess
23:41 sen wizzyrea: heh, I just looked at the docs again and they highlight the authorised values as mandatory and they're in a section of the installer labelled MANDATORY. So this seems like 100% my fault!
23:41 wizzyrea :)
23:50 jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
23:50 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
23:50 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #93: FIXED in 2 hr 3 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/93/
23:50 jenkins chrisc: Bug 19593: follow up to fix tests
23:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19593 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Pushed to Stable , [16.11.x] "Delete vendor" button is always set
23:55 sen Yay, item added and checking it out works :)
23:56 wizzyrea confetti
23:56 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
23:57 sen hee :)

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