IRC log for #koha, 2017-12-05

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00:25 Joubu @later tell fridolin what you reported yesterday morning on #koha does not sound correct. You should double check the configuration and read my answer on the list
00:25 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
00:26 Joubu @later tell fridolin wrong pref value picked from "the cache" sounds definitely wrong too. The value is picked from memcached (and nowhere else) and the cache is cleared when the value is updated
00:26 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
00:27 Joubu @later tell fridolin there is no black magic here...
00:27 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
00:28 Joubu @later tell fridolin I use template_cache + memcached + plack for more than 6 months without any problems on kohadevbox
00:28 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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07:44 rangi @later tell joubu fetching the openhub stuff with perl now, to avoid the cross domain problem
07:44 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
07:44 rangi @later tell joubu the ones on translate are the ones done by bernardo
07:44 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
07:47 rangi @later tell joubu en, fr, de, and es are on the main koha site, do you want any others generated (no others have much translated)
07:47 huginn rangi: The operation succeeded.
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08:05 gaetan_B hello
08:05 reiveune hello
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09:31 magnuse ~~~
09:32 LibraryClaire1 confetti
09:32 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
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10:08 eythian hi
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10:40 * cait waves
10:40 josef_moravec hi cait
10:47 cait hi josef_moravec :)
10:47 cait josef_moravec++ thx again for qa
10:47 cait hope to join you soon on the dashboard :)
10:47 josef_moravec ;)
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10:48 josef_moravec I am trying to learn how to QA ;) so just doing easy ones yet
10:53 LibraryClaire1 josef_moravec++
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12:20 magnuse josef_moravec++
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12:39 oleonard Hi all
12:41 Joubu rangi: yes I think it would be good to have html, pdf and epub generated for all the available languages. Even if not much are translated
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12:48 LibraryClaire1 hi sir leo
12:49 josef_moravec Joubu: we are planning to give some effort to czech translation of manual, so we would appreciate it too ;)
12:49 * cait waves
12:49 cait kidclamp: cloud library?
12:50 kidclamp
12:50 cait interesting
12:50 wahanui somebody said interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
12:50 cait some kind of universal app?
12:51 kidclamp ebook, I think comparable to  overdrive or one click
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13:01 LibraryClaire1 anyone had issues when trying to use the Built-in offline circulation interface? It keeps telling me I cannot sync or check pending offline circulation actions 'Because I am offline'
13:01 LibraryClaire1 on master
13:02 LibraryClaire1 the synchronisation seemed to work ok until I started testing some check outs and check ins and then I got an internal server error and after that it just tells me I'm offline
13:03 oleonard LibraryClaire1: Everything was working okay for me (except for Bug 16603)
13:03 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16603 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , When processing uploaded offline circulation file, "apply directly" option fails
13:04 LibraryClaire1 bum
13:04 oleonard I was working in Firefox, FWIW
13:04 LibraryClaire1 why is mine being weird :/
13:04 LibraryClaire1 yeah am in Firefox too
13:04 LibraryClaire1 I was testing bug 19744
13:04 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19744 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Move template JavaScript to the footer: Offline circulation
13:04 oleonard Yeah but mine has these cool flames painted on the side LibraryClaire1
13:05 * LibraryClaire1 does not have cool flames
13:05 LibraryClaire1 :(
13:05 LibraryClaire1 (I get the issues in master too, not just when testing the patch, so it's likely not patch related)
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13:11 oleonard LibraryClaire1++
13:11 oleonard josef_moravec++
13:11 oleonard Thanks for your help testing my patches!
13:11 josef_moravec oleonard: you're welcome
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13:12 LibraryClaire1 you'e welcome :)
13:14 oleonard kidclamp: You were in Hüsker Dü?![…]-du-emh-mnsaa.jpg
13:14 kidclamp_away :{)
13:16 oleonard My problem now with Bug 17858 is that there's mostly only hard ones left.
13:16 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17858 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Omnibus: Move staff client JavaScript to the footer
13:17 LibraryClaire1 well that's no fun
13:17 oleonard Acquisitions has... a lot of templates...
13:18 oleonard Also I don't understand Acquisitions.
13:18 LibraryClaire1 :()
13:18 magnuse has anyone considered displaying the number of holds/reserves on a biblio, on the detail view page?
13:18 magnuse the opac?
13:18 * oleonard thought there was a preference for that
13:19 oleonard OPACShowHoldQueueDetails ?
13:19 josef_moravec oleonard: and we probably need some rule or QA check, to make sure new development will stay with javascript in the footer...
13:19 magnuse oh?
13:19 LibraryClaire1 oleonard was faster
13:22 magnuse oleonard++
13:22 magnuse how did i not find that?
13:36 clrh hello
13:38 alex_a Hello, what would be the correct permission that allow to list branches via REST API?
13:44 oleonard Joubu? tcohen? ^^
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13:48 Joubu alex_a: what is the context?
13:48 wahanui hmmm... the context is everything?
13:48 Joubu you want to add these routes?
13:48 Joubu bug 16497?
13:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16497 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mail, Failed QA , Add routes to list libraries
13:48 Joubu the permissions must be the same than the ones we have from the Koha interface
13:52 alex_a Joubu: the context is that i get all libraries (branches) via REST API i.e api/v1/branches
13:54 Joubu you are testing 16497?
13:54 Joubu these routes are not in master yet afaik
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13:56 oleonard Joubu (and other smart people) Are there other characters we should avoid in branch codes to keep command-line scripts happy?
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13:57 Joubu oleonard: I would only reject space characters
13:58 oleonard Okay Joubu, I wanted to double-check.
13:58 jcamins oleonard: I'd also avoid backslashes, without any context at all.
13:59 tcohen alex_a: the problem is not listing branches (they are available in the OPAC anyway) but the metadata about them
13:59 oleonard jcamins: Acceptable characters in branch codes
13:59 tcohen we need to filter out attributes that are not expected for unprivileged users
13:59 jcamins Yup, I'd say that you should consider backslashes to be not acceptable.
14:00 jcamins I find my life is generally better the fewer backslashes it involves.
14:00 tcohen "' AND 1=1 ; DROP TABLE borrowers;" shouldn't be allowed
14:01 jcamins tcohen: good call.
14:01 Joubu yes sure but if someone decide to make their life complicated, why should not we let doing it? ;)
14:01 tcohen hahahahaha
14:01 tcohen Joubu++
14:01 jcamins Joubu: because they'll be privmsging you on the weekend to ask why all their borrowers are gone. :P
14:01 Freddy_Enrique Hi Koha
14:02 Freddy_Enrique Joubu, you there :)?
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14:02 tcohen for example
14:03 Joubu Freddy_Enrique: sounds like I am around yes
14:04 Freddy_Enrique I was able to fix the issues in the system. You know, the corrupted data.
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14:05 Freddy_Enrique Now, can I prevent it to happen again following the instruction in the wiki? The autoincrement....
14:05 Freddy_Enrique or should I wait an update?
14:10 Freddy_Enrique DBMS auto increment fix
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14:15 Joubu you must setup what is written on the wiki
14:19 Freddy_Enrique Ok, ill follow the instruction :). One more thing... I am not so familiar with this, but I always follow the official instruction in which I only use one INSTANCE
14:19 Freddy_Enrique I see in the wiki something about.....a multiple koha instance.... is it posible to have more than one?
14:20 Freddy_Enrique what are the benefits of having multiple instances?
14:20 oleonard Freddy_Enrique: For multiple independent libraries being hosted on one server
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14:24 oleonard When I add orders from a staged file, there is an "Item information" tab, but it is empty. I know the staged file has items. Should they show up there?
14:32 Freddy_Enrique :oleonard thanks :)
14:37 gaetan_B hi kidclamp! we're having a good look at elasticsearch these days, i think you worked quite a bit on it didn't you?
14:37 kidclamp I have put some time there, yes
14:38 gaetan_B i think i'll have a number of questions, do you mind my disturbing you with this?
14:39 oleonard jajm: Do you think Bug 11708 will ever be resurrected?
14:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=11708 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Failed QA , Display all basketgroups on one page, and new column aqbasketgroups.closeddate
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14:41 kidclamp not at all
14:41 kidclamp go for it gaetan_B
14:41 gaetan_B we're wondering about the mappings.yaml file, very few fields (in the elasticsearch understanding of the word) seem to have a type, is that still a work in progress or is it intended?
14:42 gaetan_B also what is supposed to happen when you do reset&i_know_what_i_am_doing=1 in the staff interface ?
14:43 gaetan_B we thought it was supposed to erase the whole ES mappings setup to reload the content of mappings.yaml, but that's not exactly what it does it seems
14:43 kidclamp I think we assume string type if not specified, we can implement more if needed
14:43 gaetan_B yes everything ends up as text if undefined it seems
14:44 kidclamp reset I think should reload from that file - currently it only reset matchigns fields and doesn't clear extra settings, which it should likely do - Joubu any thoughts?
14:44 kidclamp yeah, I think you are right gaetan_B, I started a patch but didn't finish it
14:44 gaetan_B ahhh that's what we were confused about
14:45 gaetan_B is there a bz we should look at?
14:46 kidclamp trying to see if I did submit anything on it
14:47 kidclamp bug 19482
14:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19482 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Failed QA , Elasticsearch - prevent removal / editing of required indexes
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14:50 gaetan_B thanks kidclamp! we'll have a look
14:51 Joubu indeed it only reset the mappings
14:51 Joubu Koha::SearchEngine::Elasticsearc​h->reset_elasticsearch_mappings;
14:51 laurence Joubu: hello
14:51 wahanui hey, laurence
14:51 Joubu I guess it was expected (when I wrote it)
14:51 Joubu Salut laurence
14:51 laurence Joubu: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=17255#c38
14:51 huginn Bug 17255: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, olli-antti.kivilahti, RESOLVED FIXED, Upgrade Elastic Search code to work with version 5.1
14:51 laurence how solve such error ? we have the problem
14:52 laurence authority search broken
14:52 Joubu laurence: there is no mapping for authorities in unimarc
14:52 laurence Joubu: we added them
14:52 Joubu bug 17373
14:53 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17373 normal, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , Elasticsearch - Authority mappings for UNIMARC
14:53 laurence Joubu: we are testing this patch
14:54 laurence Joubu: Set fielddata=true on [Heading.phrase] : where should I do that ?
14:54 Joubu laurence: no idea
14:54 laurence k
14:54 Joubu kidclamp: ^?
14:54 wahanui ^ is, like, what I think too
14:54 kidclamp laurence, rather than setting fielddata the field should be marked as....keyword? is a setting thing
14:55 clrh thanks kidclamp (we are 6 people of BibLibre working on ES during 24 hours - same room ;)
14:56 kidclamp you may need to clear the mapping from the db completely then reload
14:56 magnuse biblibre++
14:56 kidclamp reset_all in kohadevbox is a good friend
14:56 gaetan_B kidclamp: is it something to be done in the yaml file ? in the interface we can't choose keyword
14:57 gaetan_B is the type in the yaml file related to the type in the interface?
14:57 kidclamp it happens in Koha/SearchEngine/ sub get_elasticsearch_mappings
14:58 kidclamp facet or sort are makred as keyword so they can be sorted etc
14:58 Joubu clrh: bug 18235 and bug 17500: these 2 bugs are waiting for feedback for about 1 year. The lack of feedback on these 2 bugs make me go away of ES development
14:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18235 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Elastic search - Configurable facets
14:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17500 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, In Discussion , Use Elasticsearch to search for patrons
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15:00 oleonard Joubu: My problem with was an outstanding hold for a patron who no longer existed (who I removed incorrectly, so my fault)
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16:03 talljoy_walkabout morning/afternoon koha
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17:07 pianohacker hi all
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17:12 edveal Hi pianohacker!
17:14 oleonard Hi pianohacker, what's new?
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17:27 pianohacker hi edveal, oleonard :) not much, just different frontend work
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18:07 * LeeJ waves
18:07 LeeJ hi #koha
18:08 LeeJ Joubu: just saw your later...thanks
18:08 LeeJ edveal caboose when to meet?
18:14 caboose hi LeeJ!
18:14 caboose Have some time Thursday to meet?
18:14 LeeJ I'm free any time except 10-11:30 EST
18:29 caboose Sweet! would 3:00pm work for you?
18:30 LeeJ that would work for me, yeah
18:30 LeeJ just have to figure out if it works for edveal
18:31 caboose cool :)
18:31 caboose I'm stoked
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18:54 LeeJ @later caboose me too! I've spent the afternoon migrating the content from the kohadocs framapad to the kanban so everything is organized..figured we can start going hard on it after we meet
18:54 huginn LeeJ: I suck
18:54 LeeJ @later tell caboose me too! I've spent the afternoon migrating the content from the kohadocs framapad to the kanban so everything is organized..figured we can start going hard on it after we meet
18:54 huginn LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
19:02 oleonard kohadocs framapad kanban. None of those are words.
19:03 kidclamp covfefe
19:03 oleonard Watch your mouth
19:06 LeeJ caboose I just sent you a later
19:06 caboose nice!
19:06 LeeJ oleonard: oh hush :P
19:07 caboose LeeJ++
19:07 * LeeJ will be running on caffeine and anxiety all month
19:08 LeeJ (mostly anxiety)
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19:10 edveal LeeJ So what do you need me to test?
19:10 LeeJ edveal: are you available 3 PM EST on Thursday?
19:11 edveal Should be that is right after the BWS town hall meeitng.
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19:13 LeeJ edveal: okay
19:13 LeeJ sweet
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19:14 LeeJ_afk edveal: for now..just browse around the kanban (Taiga). I've migrated quite a bit of content to it from the old notepad we had the todo info on for 17.11
19:14 LeeJ_afk I'll bbs
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19:38 Joubu tcohen: can you create the 17.11 branch for koha-testing-docker please?
19:39 tcohen it depends :-P
19:39 Joubu on what?
19:40 tcohen I mean, of course
19:40 tcohen :-P
19:51 Joubu drojf[m]: around?
19:51 oleonard Why might a lost item fee not be charged to the patron's account... sometimes?
19:51 Joubu drojf[m]: do you know when you will have time to build the debian packages for 17.11?
19:53 jenkins Project Koha_17.11_D8 build #1: FAILURE in 10 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_17.11_D8/1/
19:57 edveal LeeJ and caboose so are wee meeting at are you available 3 PM EST this  Thursday?
19:58 caboose yep edveal!
19:58 Freddy_Enrique Excuse me guys... I've got a question. I can't locate mysql :
19:59 edveal Ok, I will put it on my calendar. IRC meeting or Zoom?
19:59 Freddy_Enrique Or should I just paste the command anyway?
20:00 tcohen by #koha
20:00 LeeJ edveal: I'm fine with either..maybe zoom since it's just us 3?
20:11 edveal LeeJ well just let me know.
20:11 LeeJ I'm fine with zoom if caboose is
20:13 caboose yep seems good
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20:24 Joubu Freddy_Enrique: grep -r mysqld /etc/mysql
20:24 Joubu maybe it's located in another conf gile
20:24 Joubu file
20:24 Joubu otherwise you can create it
20:36 Freddy_Enrique Joubu: I executed that command, this is what I get:
20:36 Freddy_Enrique does that help with something?
20:38 Joubu there is a mysqld block in 50-server.cnf, you can add the line in this file
20:40 Freddy_Enrique Working on it :)
20:40 Freddy_Enrique Joubu+
20:41 LeeJ edveal caboose great! so then we'll do a zoom thursday 3 PM EST..can one of you send out an email invite? :)
20:42 caboose I'm on it :)
20:42 LeeJ thanks! :D
20:42 edveal thanks
20:42 LeeJ caboose++
20:42 Freddy_Enrique found it!
20:42 edveal caboose++ LeeJ++
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20:45 caboose yo edveal what is your email address again?
20:47 edveal
20:47 edveal BWS needs to update their address book. LOL
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20:50 caboose yeah you are in our system, but no email :)
20:50 edveal Tell NateC to get on top of that.
20:51 caboose sent...looking forward to seeing your beautiful faces on Thursday :)
20:51 LeeJ :D
20:51 LeeJ I'll have to remember to join from my laptop :P
20:51 edveal Caboose what you sent was for today not Thursday.
20:51 caboose ah..will update
20:52 LeeJ hmm..anyone have suggestions about handling table insertion race conditions?
20:52 edveal And isn’t it 3 EST?
20:52 edveal Thanks caboose
20:53 caboose :)
20:53 LeeJ caboose++ edveal++
20:53 caboose :)
21:41 LeeJ have a good night all
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21:52 * cait waves
21:55 wizzycray hi cait
21:55 edveal hi cait
21:59 cait :)
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22:19 wizzycray cait about?
22:19 cait kind of :)
22:19 wizzycray what's the best link for someone who wants to help with documentation
22:19 wizzycray currently
22:19 wizzycray that stuff has moved around a bit lately
22:20 cait editing the manual?
22:20 wahanui i heard editing the manual was https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual
22:20 edveal Yes, LeeJ, caboose and I are working on getting things for documentation organized.
22:21 wizzycray cool thank you
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