IRC log for #koha, 2017-08-04

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02:52 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
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03:23 lyle Hi all, long time user.. poor contributer. Thanks for all you do.
03:25 lyle If anyone is around, I've got a question about setting the default expiry date for LDAP users. Previously it didn't seem like this was required, but now LDAP users attempting to log in for the first time get `Can't call method "get_expiry_date" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/lib/C4/ line 602.`
03:25 lyle I've tried setting a default as a stop-gap, but I seem to be failing.
03:31 lyle I thought usually the default expiry would have been set according the rules in the patron type. *shrug*
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05:34 amitgupta hi all
05:34 amitgupta Chris around
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06:37 cameo hello
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06:38 alex_a bonjour
06:38 wahanui kia ora, alex_a
06:38 cameo i am having issue with indexing with Devnagri titles can any body plz help me
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07:14 cait good mornign #koha
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08:05 amitgupta hi cait
08:44 cait hi amitgupta
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09:03 mveron Hi #koha
09:11 amitgupta hi mveron
09:11 mveron Hi amitgupta
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11:51 oleonard Oh nice, BestBookBuddies spammed me and every other person on my library's contact page.
11:54 cait :(
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12:32 oleonard Bug 19037 sounds very useful
12:32 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19037 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, NEW , Circulation and fine rules test tool
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13:11 Joubu lyle: still around?
13:13 Joubu @later tell khall see bug 19037?
13:13 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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13:19 Dyrcona kernel updates. back in a few.
13:26 oleonard tcohen: It was working before, but today when I test Bug 16759 I don't get any configuration options in Columns Settings.
13:26 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make opac holdings table configurable
13:26 oleonard Hm, maybe I didn't restart_all
13:27 tcohen oleonard: maybe the template caching...
13:27 tcohen yes
13:27 oleonard Yup that was it, never mind.
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13:31 * LeeJ waves
13:31 LeeJ morning #koha
13:33 * LeeJ waves to cait
13:39 cait morning LeeJ!
13:42 LeeJ cait: am I correct in order of release it was 3.22 then 16.05?
13:42 cait yep
13:43 LeeJ cait: okay thanks! putting together a change list for my library so they know what's different :)
13:43 cait :)
13:43 cait jumping to 16.05 or higher?
13:43 LeeJ so many changes in 16.x
13:44 LeeJ going to 16.11 but wanted to make sure I only needed to weed through 16.05 and .11
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13:50 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:51 mtompset @seen aleisha
13:51 huginn mtompset: aleisha was last seen in #koha 2 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 1 minute, and 30 seconds ago: <aleisha> same and same
13:52 * LeeJ waves to mtompset
13:52 mtompset Greetings, LeeJ. My fun today: refactor more function parameters.
13:53 mtompset What's your fun today, LeeJ?
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13:55 LeeJ mtompset: a request from one of our librarians Bug 19031
13:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ldjamison, ASSIGNED , Purchase Suggestion Submission Notice
13:58 LeeJ and working on writing a follow up for a patch Joubu asked for a look at
14:05 oleonard tcohen: Still on 16579, why does the new configuration disable sorting on the last column? Is that intentional?
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14:08 tcohen oleonard: it isn't!
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14:09 tcohen if you can fix it, go for it! otherwise leave a comment on the bug!
14:09 cait tcohen: i wanted to answer your question on the bug... i think we should be careful not to display sensitive information and libraries have been used to the field snot visible in OPAC so might have done all kinds of things
14:09 cait so filtering before it hits the template woudl be good i think
14:10 oleonard cait: What would you consider sensitive?
14:12 tcohen cait: you're talking about bug 19038 and possible followup for remaining sysprefs?
14:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19038 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Remove OPACShowBarcode syspref
14:13 tcohen bug 16579 itself is not changing the sysprefs removing stuff behaviour
14:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16579 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, [OMNIBUS] Use separate memcached namespace for caching koha-conf.xml
14:13 cait oleonard: note fields, materials note for example
14:13 tcohen sorry, bug 16759
14:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16759 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make opac holdings table configurable
14:13 cait not visible in opac now, visible on checkout and hceckin... knowing libraries, they probably got creatvie :)
14:14 cait just thiking that if you mark something hidden and not toggable, there should be no way to make it visible
14:14 cait there is also the visibility settings in the marc freameworks, not sure how they factor in or should factor in
14:14 cait sorry, just something i have been thinking about and failed to put on the bug in an understandable way so far :(
14:15 tcohen currently, is not respecting MARC framworks-defined visibility for items at all
14:21 mtompset did someone say opac-detail?
14:21 * mtompset grumbles about lack of proper parameter passing.
14:22 mtompset tcohen: GetMarcBiblio is not passing the $opac parameter.
14:23 tcohen mtompset: is calling GetItemData directly
14:23 tcohen so...
14:24 mtompset Ah... there is that problem too.
14:24 mtompset Don't worry... I might get to that as part of bug 14385.
14:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14385 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, ASSIGNED , Extend OpacHiddenItems to allow specifying exempt borrower categories
14:24 mtompset I already had to refactor parameters for one function.
14:24 mtompset Looks like I'll be doing another today.
14:25 tcohen mtompset: stop hooking C4 code :-D
14:25 mtompset I would, but it's really hard. :P
14:31 oleonard tcohen: Bad news:  OpacSeparateHoldings and OpacSeparateHoldingsBranch exist. :(
14:37 mtompset cait: I just reworked bug 18633 for you.
14:37 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18633 normal, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Pushed to Stable , Logs are full of CGI::param called in list context -
14:37 cait mtompset: thx, pls leave a note on the bug, i will see it later
14:37 mtompset Though, as I noted, I did not test.
14:37 oleonard Maybe it would be easier to calculate all possible permutations of all possible system preferences and create 950 different templates for
14:37 cait oleonard: ouch
14:38 mtompset *laugh*
14:38 mtompset The opac-detail, opac-MARCdetail, and opac-ISBDdetail all need a good refactor.
14:38 mtompset But it isn't an easy task.
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14:46 tcohen oleonard: thx for the pointer!
14:46 tcohen and, ouch!
14:46 oleonard Yeah :(
14:47 tcohen I'm surprised it is affected
14:47 oleonard Two tables, two configurations I assume
14:47 tcohen ah!
14:47 tcohen should be simple then
14:47 tcohen thanks, again!
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14:56 fridolin cait: Joubu : I'll be on holidays this month so less on chan, i'll keep doing RMaint occasionnaly
14:56 fridolin see u
14:57 fridolin ISBD view needs to be send to trashbin ;)
14:57 cait agree about the isbd view
14:57 Joubu fridolin: ok, I will @later you if something is needed
14:57 cait tried to change something there recently *shivers*
14:57 tcohen XSLT too :-D Template::Toolkit for the win!
14:57 cait fridolin: do you still plan to release on 22nd?
14:57 oleonard Happy holidays fridolin
14:58 fridolin cait: yep no pb
14:58 cait ok - have happy holidays :)
14:58 fridolin oleonard: thanks a lot, they are most welcome
14:58 fridolin dont hésitate to email me on biblire adresse
14:58 cait will be on holiday the next 2 weeks
14:58 cait but will be around too
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15:00 mtompset Actually, I think a bunch of people from India might cry if ISBDview was thrown in the trashbin.
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15:01 TGoat good morning :)
15:01 mtompset Though, I kind of like the idea of trashing it.
15:01 mtompset Greetings, TGoat
15:01 TGoat howdy mtompset :)
15:02 mtompset SWEET! My refactor might actually enable a FIXME and TODO to be done in C4/Labels. :)
15:03 mtompset But. I. Must. Not. Bunny. Trail....
15:06 Joubu oleonard: did you open the bug report about the footerjs missing in
15:07 oleonard Sorry Joubu I don't know what you mean
15:07 Joubu ok will do
15:10 Joubu bug 19041
15:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19041 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , footerjs = 1 removed by bug 17855
15:11 Joubu I do not have time to fill it, have to run
15:11 Joubu have a good week-end #koha
15:11 oleonard Blah.
15:11 Joubu I do not have time to submit a patch I meant
15:11 Joubu bye
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15:39 mtompset Does anyone know if misc/migration_tools/22_to_30/ is still useful?
15:41 cait hm what's the system preference dealing with automatically cancellig holds that haven't bene picked up?
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15:44 mtompset Sorry, I don't know, cait.
15:52 oleonard cait:  ExpireReservesMaxPickUpDelay ?
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16:14 mtompset Have a good day, #koha oleonard cait TGoat rocio kmlussier
16:27 cait oleonard: thx!!
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17:01 mtompset Greetings, #koha
17:25 mtompset LeeJ: Now I'm having fun working on library software (Koha) in my local public library for 2 hours. Just grinding away at refactoring GetMarcBiblio
17:29 LeeJ mtompset: nice! Unfortunately all my local libraries are in consortiums so none of them would ever be on Koha :P
17:29 mtompset Mine isn't.
17:29 mtompset I'm talking about doing my software development here.
17:30 mtompset Sorry if I was unclear.
17:31 oleonard I think LeeJ was just making conversation mtompset
17:31 mtompset oleonard: Perhaps. How goes things with you? What fun are you having today?
17:32 mtompset I wish tests ran faster. *sigh*
17:32 oleonard Did some signing off. Now I'm working on customizing an Omeka theme.
17:33 mtompset Omeka?
17:33 wahanui i guess Omeka is really quite different from DSpace, IMO, though.
17:33 tcohen back
17:34 mtompset oleonard: I noticed... I am about to lose 3rd place, last I checked.
17:35 oleonard mtompset: We're using Omeka as a repository for digitized local history materials.
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17:39 mtompset tcohen: I just noticed, you forgot to tweak sysprefs.sql
17:39 mtompset bug 19028
17:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19028 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add 'shelving location' to holdings table in detail page
17:39 tcohen ah
17:39 mtompset Add that, and I'll test and sign off. :)
17:39 tcohen yes, I had a followup but then oleonard noticed something nastier
17:40 tcohen on the previous one
17:40 mtompset Ah, distracted. I know that problem.
17:41 LeeJ mtompset: oooh..sounded like you were working for them :P
17:41 mtompset No no... still doing work for my organization, but remotely on a work laptop.
17:41 mtompset sitting at the local library.
17:42 LeeJ ahh...I'm hoping to get back into the normal swing of things next week
18:27 mtompset LeeJ: Want an easy sign off? bug 19042
18:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19042 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Silence warnings t/db_dependent/Letters.t
18:28 LeeJ mtompset: I can do that
18:35 LeeJ mtompset: there ya go bud
18:35 mtompset Thanks. LeeJ++
18:53 oleonard Happy weekend, #koha.
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19:02 mtompset LeeJ: Could you confirm that t/db_dependent/www/search_utf8.t fails with wide print related messages?
19:03 mtompset you may need to tweak your /etc/hosts to create a dummy URL for the export KOHA_INTRANET_URL= and export KOHA_OPAC_URL=
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19:05 mtompset Greetings, khall
19:05 mtompset Have a good day, #koha khall LeeJ tcohen
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19:37 LeeJ @later tell Joubu I added that follow up to 18331 like you wanted..should be good to go now! Let me know if we need to do more on it
19:37 huginn LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
19:37 barton Hey all, Columbia university is one of the default z39.50 servers in koha, listed as -- is rejecting requests after connection... I can connect via telnet or yaz-client, but then I get an immediate message of Target closed connection
19:39 barton This is obviously something on columbia's side, I'm just wondering if we need to find out if this is a permanent situation and remove that from the list.
19:39 barton (or be helpful to columbia and tell them that their server is down).
19:51 jcamins barton: they've been down for several months, I think.
19:52 jcamins I first started getting them timing out in April. I didn't realize they were a default.
19:54 barton jcamins: looks like they were getting farmed by bots; they've put their server behind a vpn.
19:55 jcamins Interesting.
19:55 wahanui i guess interesting is sometimes good and sometimes bad
19:55 barton ... or so says the person I was chatting with in their web chat window.
19:56 barton live?
19:56 wahanui live is life. La la la la la. Let us all talk about life.
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19:58 barton jcamins: here's iformation from columbia: "Z39.50 users: Access to CLIO via the Z39.50 protocol is now restricted to on-campus use. For information about using Z39.50 to search CLIO, please see:[…]c-help/z3950.html"
19:58 barton I'll file a bug to remove that.
20:15 pianohacker shalom
20:15 cait hi pianohacker :)
20:15 pianohacker hi cait!
20:15 * cait is on vacation now! squee!
20:15 pianohacker excellent.
20:22 LeeJ cait: yayyyy!
20:23 LeeJ well have a good weekend all...I might pop in at some point to do work :)
20:52 pianohacker byeeeee
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