IRC log for #koha, 2017-06-13

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00:09 LeeJ Joubu: came home and tried to test the how-to but I had to provision my devbox because I didn't have some stuff configured on Windows but ran into problems during provisioning so I need to sort that out. Will try again tomorrow :(
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06:19 alex_a bonjour
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06:25 fridolin hie there
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06:48 reiveune hello
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07:08 fridolin Bug 18656 a nice community work ;)
07:08 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18656 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to Stable , Require confirmation of deletion of files from patron record
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07:25 drojf hi #koha
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07:42 magnuse moin drojf
07:42 oha o/
07:43 drojf hei magnuse
07:47 mtj heya #koha
07:47 mtj ping drojf
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08:23 eythian hi fridolin, drojf, magnuse, oha, mtj
08:23 drojf hi eythian
08:23 fridolin hi eythian watsup ?
08:24 fridolin i was thinks of you last time I had a nice fresh bier
08:24 eythian fridolin: given I'm living below sea level, pretty much everything :)
08:24 eythian heh nice
08:24 fridolin some special craft bier
08:24 fridolin eythian: you live in Neederlands ?
08:24 eythian fridolin: yeah, Amsterdam
08:25 fridolin whouu
08:25 fridolin cofee shop ? or not ?
08:25 fridolin ;)
08:26 fridolin i've never been but I'd like to
08:26 eythian haha, alas no :) they don't have much call for software developers as far as I know.
08:26 eythian you should come visit :)
08:30 eythian (I do have a comfy couch bed you can use.)
08:40 ashimema eythian.. yapc/tpc::eu this year?
08:40 ashimema 'tis in amsterdam ;)
08:40 eythian ashimema: thinking about it. Need to talk to someone about getting work to send me :)
08:41 eythian I really need to sort out my calendar, things are starting to stack up
08:41 ashimema that's the same place I'm at at the minute.. getting work to pay.. they've agreed in principle but that was before the tickets were available
08:42 ashimema now to actually part the purse strings ;)
08:42 eythian ah, they're up now? cool.
08:42 ashimema would be great to see you there.. if not though would love to come find you for a pint one night ;)
08:42 ashimema yup, available now
08:43 eythian they really don't make it easy to find on the website.
08:43 ashimema no, not at all
08:43 ashimema you have to login first I believe
08:43 ashimema took me ages
08:44 eythian yeah
08:44 ashimema http://act.perlconference.org/[…]msterdam/purchase
08:44 eythian ah, it's immediately after another thing I'm going to. Going to be a hectic week :)
08:44 eythian https://sha2017.org/ if you happen to want a longer trip, there's this...
08:46 ashimema looks interesting..
08:47 ashimema would need to get some more brownie points before asking the other half.. ;)
08:49 eythian heh
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09:06 * cait waves
09:13 cait fridolin: around?
09:16 fridolin cait: yep
09:20 cait I am planning to write Bernardo about string freeze tonight
09:20 cait so he updates the po files
09:20 cait would that be ok for you too?
09:33 fridolin cait: yes thanks
09:33 fridolin string Mr Freeze
09:33 fridolin ;)
09:51 cait ok :)
09:52 cait curious to see if the latest fixes will make jenkins go green again
09:52 cait will find out tonight :)
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11:12 oleonard Hi #koha
11:21 cait hi oleonard :)
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11:27 drojf looks like the new repo is ready. phew
11:29 * drojf gets a coffee before pressing the button
11:30 cait yay
11:30 cait press the button!
11:30 Tylathos Hey #koha
11:31 oleonard Hi Tylathos
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11:39 * drojf presses button
11:39 cait confetti!
11:39 wahanui o/ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`
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11:46 cait drojf: oldoldstable? :)
11:48 drojf cait: i did 16.05.14 because of the critical bug. mtj would like to provide 16.05 packages this release cycle
11:48 drojf packaging leaks. hehe
11:49 drojf sorry mtj, no going back now :P
11:50 cait splitting the work :)
11:51 drojf ok, doing some things before people start reporting problems with the new repo. eeek
11:51 cait more confidence :)
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11:55 drojf it took ages because i created all new pockets and tested every pocket to make sure all dependencies are there. i _think_ it should be fine :D
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12:04 magnuse drojf++
12:10 oleonard By the time I'm done adding JavaScript to the patron entry form to deal with all the mistakes people make here it's going to look like this: http://zivotdesign.com/p/#0/14973557614872
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12:23 marcelr hi #koha
12:29 drojf so far nobody reported explosions. gonna update the wiki page
12:29 drojf hi marcelr
12:29 marcelr \o
12:30 drojf i don't have an ubuntu test machine, if somebody feels like trying the new repo with 16.04 and give some feedback, that might be helpful
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12:44 drojf wiki update done
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12:52 kidclamp @wunder 05001
12:52 huginn kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
12:52 kidclamp @wunder 05048
12:52 huginn kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
12:52 kidclamp @wunder white river junction, vt
12:52 huginn kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
12:52 kidclamp @wunder vermont
12:52 huginn kidclamp: Error: No such location could be found.
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12:57 oleonard @wunder The sunken place
12:57 huginn oleonard: Error: No such location could be found.
13:05 Joubu hi
13:05 wahanui hey, Joubu
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13:08 tcohen_DND morning
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13:11 eythian tcohen_DND: playing Dungeons and Dragons eh?
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13:13 tcohen_DND eythian: exactly
13:13 kidclamp @dice
13:13 huginn kidclamp: (dice <dice>d<sides>) -- Rolls a die with <sides> number of sides <dice> times. For example, 2d6 will roll 2 six-sided dice; 10d10 will roll 10 ten-sided dice.
13:14 kidclamp @dice 1d20
13:14 huginn kidclamp: 10
13:14 tcohen_DND @dice 16d2
13:14 huginn tcohen_DND: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
13:14 tcohen_DND @dice 6d2
13:14 LeeJ we could play D&D in here?! :O
13:14 huginn tcohen_DND: Error: Dice can't have fewer than 3 sides.
13:15 tcohen_DND drojf++ # finally
13:16 tcohen_DND @dice 6d6
13:16 huginn tcohen_DND: 3, 3, 6, 4, 5, and 6
13:17 tcohen_DND do we trust that random generator?
13:18 * kidclamp feels like we have disturbed the tcohen :-)
13:18 * tcohen_DND has that feature, easily disturbable
13:18 LeeJ lol morning all
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13:22 LeeJ I love how the dice tooltip says it can roll ten dice but it complained that you can't roll more than 6..
13:24 Joubu @dice 10d10
13:24 huginn Joubu: Error: You can't roll more than 6 dice.
13:25 LeeJ huginn lies...
13:25 huginn LeeJ: downloading the Perl source
13:25 LeeJ O.o
13:25 Joubu do not write doc, do not write help, never
13:27 LeeJ gotcha
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13:41 oleonard Dice can't have fewer than 3 sides? Maybe in your dimension huginn :P
13:41 * oleonard scolds huginn about playing D&D when he can't even tell the weather anymore
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13:45 drojf that's what happens when kids get into role playing. they lose track of reality and just roll dice all day
13:48 LeeJ drojf: I take slight offense to that...that was the better part of my high school days LOL
13:49 Joubu \o/ Jenkins is happy, so I am too
13:51 LeeJ Joubu: Jenkins is hard to please, I take it?
13:52 Joubu jenkins is happy now
13:52 Joubu but... it does not run all of our tests
13:52 kidclamp Joubu++
13:54 LeeJ you mean the ones you recently pushed that we worked on?
13:56 tcohen_DND Joubu++
13:57 LeeJ brb..gonna see if I can connect to this from Chatzilla
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14:11 Bovinity Anyone know of a way to get CCL to search ranges of numbers including decimals? (Specifically, trying to search AR level ranges)
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14:15 * oleonard points out that LeeJ never became a weather forecaster thanks to D&D
14:16 * LeeJ wonders why oleonard doesn't broadcast the weather in here
14:16 LeeJ :P
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14:23 LeeJ so our cataloger at work here brought up something I might submit a bug for...under moredetail.pl it has the record's biblionumber but not the itemnumber for each item
14:23 Bovinity Seems like ccl=arl,st-numeric:1-10 will only return the integers between 1 and 10, but not 3.3 for example. Not sure if there's another qualifier I can use or something.
14:23 LeeJ can anyone think of a reason it would be a bad idea?
14:24 oleonard LeeJ: Itemnumber is generally considered to be a piece of information which isn't of general interest. I would go the other way and say that biblionumber should be displayed.
14:24 oleonard LeeJ: But I'm curious how it fits into their workflow?
14:25 LeeJ oleonard: our cataloger uses the itemnumber in relation to lost/missing items to identify them (say in case of multiple copies/volumes, etc.)
14:25 oleonard Why not barcode?
14:28 LeeJ oleonard: that's a good point...gonna check with her later. I'd imagine she has her reasons but I'm not privy to them currently lol
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14:46 Joubu @later tell tcohen do you know why we have Master with a big storm icon on jenkins.k-c.org? Sounds like it is for % of test coverage, but do not remember we had that before, should be yellow
14:46 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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14:51 Infra_3600 Q: does vufind support trees?
14:52 Infra_3600 https://vufind.org/wiki/indexi[…]s_and_collections anybody give me screenshot of this if available
14:55 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18794: Fix test ListMetadataFormats in OAI/Server.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5998790e4a9f3999a>
14:56 Infra_3600 google help me ))
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15:03 oleonard Putting "once and for all" into a bug report title seems like asking for trouble.
15:21 Bovinity Gonna get rid of the bugs once and for all, yep.
15:22 reiveune bye
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15:48 cait zebra can be so annoying
15:48 cait it keeps complaining about a duplicate entry for charmap... but i have removed all changes from the files, restarted zebra etc
15:48 cait and it keeps complaining :(
15:49 cait I am not sure what else to try at this point
15:57 Bovinity Why can't CCL have st-float or st-decimal or something. ><
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16:11 mveron-away Hi again #koha
16:12 Bovinity Oi
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16:18 mtompset @seen Joubu
16:18 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 31 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: <Joubu> @later tell tcohen do you know why we have Master with a big storm icon on jenkins.k-c.org? Sounds like it is for % of test coverage, but do not remember we had that before, should be yellow
16:19 mtompset @later tell Joubu I blame you for me reading t/db_dependent/rollingloads.t -- It so needs a refactor!
16:19 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
16:21 LeeJ hiiii mtompset
16:21 Joubu Did I do that?
16:21 mtompset Joubu: Yes. You said "It should be prove -r"
16:21 mtompset So I did.
16:21 mtompset Then I saw rollingloans.t skip 8 tests.
16:22 mtompset before dying.
16:22 mtompset -- hi, LeeJ
16:22 mtompset I read the code.
16:22 Joubu ho yes, these tests are completely useless
16:22 mtompset I thought, "<bleep> This needs a refactor with TestBuilder.
16:23 mtompset Looks like another category for the kawhatsits.
16:24 mtompset Tests needing a refactor.
16:30 mtompset Joubu++ # Thanks for fixing and figuring out the failing test.
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16:49 Joubu mtompset: are you writing a patch for bug 18797?
16:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18797 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/rollingloans.t is skipping
16:49 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #200: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/200/
16:49 jenkins jonathan.druart: Bug 18794: Fix test ListMetadataFormats in OAI/Server.t
16:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18794 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OAI/Server.t fails on slow servers
16:49 mtompset I haven't started anything.
16:50 mtompset I was going to go for lunch and see if someone would take it. :)
17:02 mveron Dinner time...
17:06 Bovinity Well, I guess first-in-field kinda allows for a crappy workaround since it'll allow "3" to return 3.0-3.9.
17:08 oleonard Sorry you're working in solitude Bovinity. CCL experts must be sleeping... or hiding.
17:08 LeeJ never heard of CCL before associating with you all :P
17:09 Bovinity It's like magic, if magic were boring and didn't work the way you wanted. ;)
17:10 Bovinity I don't really NEED ccl for this, currently just using a public report and parsing the response out on the opac, but it feels kinda hacky to do it that way and management wants something "that's built into koha".
17:12 LeeJ Bovinity: that's management speak for "I just want to press a button to make it work" ;)
17:13 mtompset Bovinity: "built into koha" -- sounds like plug-ins. :)
17:14 Bovinity Pretty much. They see a new menu item or something and think, "Oh no, you're hacking koha! Can't you just do it 'normally'"?  :D
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17:15 LeeJ Bovinity: hahahaha! I'm very thankful to be in the position I'm in. No one here (not even the director) questions my Koha activities because they know it will benefit us in the long run. Higher management is occupied elsewhere :)
17:16 Bovinity That sounds nice. :o
17:16 mtompset LeeJ: It's after 1pm in my timezone, did you test that patch? :P
17:17 LeeJ mtompset: then apparently we're in the same timezone! And I'm getting to it! My box wasn't behaving so I had to provision..it's almost done LOL
17:18 mtompset eastern?
17:18 LeeJ mhm...I'm in Pennsylvania
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18:33 LeeJ mtompset: the log you speak of..is it the intranet-error.log?
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18:50 mtompset LeeJ: Sorry, was away from keyboard. LeeJ es, assuming you aren't running plack.
18:50 mtompset LeeJ: Sorry, was away from keyboard. Yes, assuming you aren't running plack.
18:51 LeeJ mtompset: alright..so it would change with plack running, correct?
18:51 mtompset i think so.
18:51 mtompset In the case of the kohadevbox, it probably is the plack one.
18:51 LeeJ okay..I'll let you know mtompset
18:51 mtompset It's whereever the errors go for the staff client.
18:52 mtompset I was testing under old school git install.
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18:55 LeeJ mtompset: I'll take a look
18:58 LeeJ anyone have experience running synced repo on Debian host for kohadevbox?
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19:33 cait LeeJ: do you mean having the git repo outside of your kohadevbox?
19:34 LeeJ cait: yes...I'm having a wicked time with it even after setting up NFS (what I believe to be) the correct way
19:35 LeeJ cait: it's not an emergency since I have 2 other computers to use..I'm just a completionist :P
19:36 cait hm
19:36 cait i am using it
19:36 cait one problem i had was that i use a encrpyted home directory
19:36 cait so i had to move things around a bit
19:36 LeeJ cait: I think I might just have to re-install Debian
19:36 LeeJ cait: mine isn't encrypted...so I'm going to assume I just botched the install and start over
19:37 cait basically you can have the git repo whereever you want
19:37 cait and then start up the devbox with the parameter
19:37 cait or put that into your environment
19:37 cait $ SYNC_REPO="/home/me/kohaclone" vagrant up
19:38 cait should be all you need
19:38 LeeJ I understand that part..I probably goofed something up because I had to install NFS manually
19:38 LeeJ for some reason it wasn't installed in the base box
19:41 cait hm tcohen would be the one to ask best about it
19:41 cait i also had some trouble int he beginning
19:41 cait maybe make sure that your kohadevbox is up to date
19:42 cait btw nice to have you aorund LeeJ :)
19:42 LeeJ I figured he would be...and I always make sure it's updated
19:42 LeeJ thank you cait :) it's nice to feel my contributions are meaningful, as minimal as they are :
19:42 LeeJ :)
19:43 cait not so minimal I think - you seem to be everywhere right now :)
19:45 LeeJ well thank you..I appreciate that :)
19:45 cait where are you from?
19:45 LeeJ Pennsylvania...I work for a university
19:46 LeeJ you're one of the maintainers, right?
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19:54 rangi morning
19:55 LeeJ morning for you..almost-end-of-the-workday for me :P
19:55 LeeJ but morning lol
19:57 magnuse kia ora rangi!
19:57 rangi kia ora magnuse, long time no see!
19:58 magnuse yeah, not too many late nights lately :-)
19:58 * magnuse keeps fingers crossed for kohacon20 in nz
19:58 * magnuse has to wander off
19:58 rangi yep, still the plan :)
19:58 rangi cya later
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20:02 LeeJ @seen mtompset
20:02 huginn LeeJ: mtompset was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 10 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <mtompset> I was testing under old school git install.
20:02 cait oh oops
20:02 cait seemed i had lost connection
20:03 cait LeeJ: yep, currently rmaint for 16.11
20:03 cait from germany, working for a library service center :)
20:03 cait morning rangi!
20:04 LeeJ very cool cait!
20:05 eythian hi rangi
20:05 cait hi eythian
20:05 eythian an cait
20:05 eythian +d
20:05 cait or -n
20:06 cait bbiab
20:16 LeeJ @later tell mtompset I'll have to test 18771 from home..reinstalling Debian now and OS X isn't letting me clear any log files (getting permission denied)
20:16 huginn LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
20:17 LeeJ well it's time to leave work..take care all. Until later :)
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20:50 cait tcohen: around?
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21:07 tcohen cait: sort of
21:07 cait it's ok
21:07 cait i was worried the build was not starting and then it did
21:08 tcohen it polls the repo each 15 minutes if my brain is still not malfunctioning
21:12 cait that could be
21:12 cait i was staring at it
21:12 cait i am really curious if the recent fixes will be enough to turn it blue
21:14 Joubu cait: bug 18794 may be useful as well
21:14 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18794 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , OAI/Server.t fails on slow servers
21:16 cait not on 17.05 - but no string changes
21:16 cait so i can push it later on still :)
21:16 cait i just caught up to fridolin again
21:16 cait he will probably get to it next
21:17 Joubu We are very close to get a "prove -r" that returns green without warnings
21:17 Joubu that would be the first time since years
21:18 cait fingers crossed
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22:28 cait @later tell wizzyrea can you please fix the link to the koha 17.05 release notes on the kc.org front page? i tried, but couldn't figure out how to edit that page
22:28 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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23:13 mtompset re 'prove -r' -- Thanks to Joubu and LeeJ for working together with me to make progress on that.
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