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05:53 alexbuckley_ Hi everyone
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06:44 alex_a bonjour
06:44 wahanui privet, alex_a
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07:11 atheia Good morning, magnuse!
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08:52 stozza hello :)
08:54 stozza finally got koha running, almost as wanted. My daughter's school is giving a party to celebrate the new library :)
08:55 stozza I am now trying to export a list of all the items we have in the inventory. Is the CSV expected to be a one-liner?
08:56 stozza $ file items.csv
08:56 stozza items.csv: UTF-8 Unicode text, with very long lines
08:56 stozza wc -l items.csv
08:56 stozza 2 items.csv
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09:01 BobB stozza you can't import csv directly to Koha, you need MARC records
09:02 stozza I have everything in Koha already
09:02 stozza I am actually trying to export the info
09:03 stozza from koha to a text file, or better a spreadsheet
09:03 stozza so from item search there is this "output to CSV" file, but it gives me a 2-lines csv file, with all the items on 1 line. not sure how to use it
09:03 BobB ah, sorry, I misunderstood
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09:04 BobB hmm, not sure why
09:04 wahanui not sure why is probably still pulling it
09:05 BobB are you using the Tools menu?
09:05 BobB there's an export data page
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09:12 stozza I am exporting from the item search page, let me check the export data tool
09:15 stozza mh, from the export data tool I always get this error, in marc, xml or csv:
09:15 stozza Software error:
09:15 stozza Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/ line 75.
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11:38 oleonard Hi #koha
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12:39 gp Who's out there?
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13:04 magnuse paul_p: around?
13:04 paul_p magnuse yep
13:06 tcohen morning #koha
13:07 gp ?
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13:09 magnuse gp: if you have a queston about koha just go ahead and ask it, if there are people around who can answer it they will
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13:28 oleonard Joubu: I submitted a follow-up to Bug 3311 to move the JS out of the body of the page.
13:28 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=3311 normal, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Statistical reports should error if row and column aren't selected
13:28 oleonard You were right to flag that as a problem.
13:32 Joubu thanks oleonard, I will give it another try today
13:33 Joubu oleonard: If you tried the patch and confirmed it works as before you can keep the SO status
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13:37 Joubu oleonard: I am not sure to understand what alexbuckley_ did on bug 18462 but it's wrong
13:37 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Implemented bootstrap styling on the web installer and onboarding tool
13:38 Joubu the patches have to be based on top of 17855, the first patch of 18462 should not be there
13:38 Joubu I try to apply on top of 17855 but it conflicts
13:40 oleonard Yeah I'm not sure why he chose to do it that way. How can I help? Try to resolve the conflicts?
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13:45 Joubu oleonard: I have no idea, I am lost
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13:46 oleonard Joubu: Let me spend some time looking at what we have and get back to you.
13:47 Joubu oleonard: I'd say we should not have the first 2 patches
13:47 Joubu but second patch "reverted back to [...]" is on both bug reports, but they are very different
13:49 Joubu oleonard: maybe we should skip the first 3 patche actually
13:49 oleonard have you checked to see if Bug 18462's "onboarding tool" patch the same as the changes in 17855?
13:49 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Implemented bootstrap styling on the web installer and onboarding tool
13:49 Joubu but then they do not apply with sha1 info is lacking
13:51 Joubu oleonard: some changes are, some are not :-/
13:52 Joubu for instance onboarding/ looks ok, but onboarding/ looks different
13:55 Joubu Did you only modify the files or also js/inc?
13:55 Joubu and pl?
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13:57 oleonard Sorry Joubu I didn't realize what a mess 18462 was creating.
13:58 oleonard I don't know that you and I can sort this out without requiring QA on everything all over again.
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13:58 Joubu well, I created it with my follow-up on 17855 actually. But it was the only way to make it push IMO
13:59 tcohen ha
13:59 Joubu oleonard: if you have a branch with UI changes to the installer, you could c/p the files to /tmp, then git chekcout bug_17855, the copy then back
14:00 Joubu you will get a patch with the UI changes for the installer
14:00 Joubu then we will need a patch for the onboarding tool, for UI only
14:00 Joubu at this point I do not know how to process
14:03 oleonard I don't thikn 17855 can still be considered to be PQA. It includes the basic/advanced system which is abandoned in 18462
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14:06 Joubu oleonard: no it does not
14:06 Joubu not anymore
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14:06 oleonard Oh... I guess I assumed it did because of the patches on 18462
14:06 oleonard *sigh*
14:06 Joubu it was on older versions
14:07 Joubu oleonard: you should not look at the first 2 patches of 18462 :)
14:09 oleonard Okay, so if you consider 17855 to be up to date and PQA I will focus on getting UI patches to apply
14:10 oleonard Joubu does that sound like the correct next step?
14:10 Joubu oleonard: you can use `git apply --reject`
14:11 Joubu oleonard: yes, kind of manually. Try git apply --reject to see how big is the task
14:11 Joubu you will know the chunks that apply and the ones that do not
14:12 Joubu then for the ones that do not you will have to apply the changes manually (see the .rej files)
14:18 oleonard
14:19 Joubu oleonard: not the grenades!!
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16:12 rsantellan good afternoon #koha
16:26 CrispyBran kidclamp: In my kohadevbox I have AutomaticItemReturn set to Do, but when I check an item in at another library, it does not initiate a transfer.  Is there another setting I need to look at?
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16:29 kidclamp floating in circ rules? not sure
16:40 CrispyBran Trying to checkout an item in kohadevbox, and I get DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Duplicate entry '3' for key 'PRIMARY' at /home/vagrant/kohaclone/Koha/ line 121
16:40 CrispyBran Any ideas?
16:40 wahanui Any ideas are welcome :)
16:48 kidclamp maybe an auto_increment problem with issues table?
16:51 CrispyBran I get this message if patron tries to checkout item that is waiting on hold.  This is on master.
16:52 kidclamp yeah
16:53 kidclamp select reserve_id FROM reserves JOIN old_reserves USING (reserve_id);
16:53 kidclamp UPDATE reserves SET reserve_id=reserve_id+1000;
16:53 kidclamp ALTER TABLE reserves AUTO_INCREMENT = 2000;
16:53 kidclamp adjusted as needs be
16:54 kidclamp when you restart your server auto_increment gets reset
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16:54 CrispyBran kidclamp - are you saying I need to follow these steps?
16:55 tylathos hey, has anyone Experience with koha on nginx?
16:55 kidclamp if that first sql returns results, yes
16:56 kidclamp or since is test system. just wipe old_reserves
17:03 CrispyBran I deleted the records for the old_reserves table.  That cleared up that problem and the problem where item didn't transfer home.
17:03 CrispyBran kidclamp - thanks
17:08 kidclamp np
17:16 Joubu CrispyBran: Are you using >= 16.11.07?
17:17 CrispyBran Not on my kohadevbox.  We are using it in production.
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17:18 Joubu do you know on which table you get the duplicate entry?
17:18 Joubu see bug 18242
17:18 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18242 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Remove primary key on old_issues.issue_id
17:21 CrispyBran I had to clear out the old_reserves table.  Not old_issues.  Something went wonky when I was moving items around and cancelling holds.  I tried the same steps after clearing it, and was not able to replicate it.  Never restarted mysql, so don't know why it corrupted.
17:22 Joubu CrispyBran: if you recreate on a fresh install, please open a bug report and provide a step-by-step plan to reproduce
17:22 CrispyBran I will.
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17:22 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
17:22 mtompset @seen oleonard
17:22 huginn` mtompset: oleonard was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 4 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <oleonard>
17:23 * oleonard clears his throat loudly
17:23 mtompset Quick question, as you were more clueful on the document ready issues.
17:24 mtompset If I have a file and it includes two seperate files with document readys, will it chain?
17:24 mtompset or will the later one override?
17:25 oleonard They coexist comfortably.
17:25 mtompset so both will get triggered?
17:25 oleonard Yes
17:25 mtompset SWEET!
17:25 mtompset That makes it simpler then. :)
17:26 mtompset I'm working on JD's comment about other stat reports missing the similar logic.
17:26 mtompset So I was thinking of a
17:27 oleonard I'm wondering whether that form couldn't be reworked in a way that is more familiar and not in a table
17:28 mtompset -- forms... borrowers_stats, catalogue_stats, issues_stats
17:29 mtompset If you have an idea, I'd be glad to hear it. Otherwise, I'm hoping to finish this bug off today.
17:29 mtompset And clean up more HTML while I'm at it too. :)
17:36 Joubu mtompset, oleonard: I am wondering if it would not fit better in a reports.js file instead of an include file
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17:37 oleonard Yes
17:38 mtompset Hmm... do js files get translated?
17:38 mtompset do include files get translated?
17:39 oleonard No, but you can separate the strings and put them in the template.
17:39 CrispyBran What is the proper way to do this?  [% IF ( ( ConditionA ) && !( ConditionB ) ) %] or [% IF ( ( ConditionA ) && ( !ConditionB ) ) %]
17:39 mtompset CrispyBran: I don't see the difference?
17:40 CrispyBran Not sure where the ! should be placed.
17:40 mtompset OH... there it is.
17:41 mtompset And why so many parenthesis?
17:41 mtompset Condition A isn't horribly complex is it?
17:41 oleonard Yeah the parentheses are only necessary if there is more complex grouping
17:41 CrispyBran I haven't seen it done differently
17:42 CrispyBran So maybe [% IF ( ConditionA ) && !( ConditionB ) %]
17:42 CrispyBran Should the ! be outside the parentheses?
17:42 oleonard did you try [% IF ConditionA && !ConditionB %] ?
17:43 CrispyBran Not yet.  Exist code seems to always put the condition in parentheses.  I was just sticking to what was there.  Basically, it is testing if a value is true or false.
17:44 CrispyBran I'll try without.
17:45 oleonard I started growing a mustache when I ran 'vagrant up' and now that it's finished I look like kidclamp
17:46 CrispyBran Ha!!
17:46 kidclamp hah!
17:49 * mtompset grins.
17:52 misilot Hi, is there anything on 3.22 that would cause Public Reports be hit or miss on returning the data?
17:52 Joubu CrispyBran_away: [% IF A AND NOT B %], we are human right?
17:54 kidclamp are we not men?
17:54 oleonard Joubu: How does it feel to wonder whether or not we are human?
17:54 Joubu I am sure some of us are bots!
17:55 mtompset kidclamp: No, we are instantiations of personality floating on the net, as the master object types into the console. :P
17:55 kidclamp the correct answer: we are devo!
17:55 kidclamp :b
17:56 kidclamp and mtompset, speak for yourself, I am a solpsist
17:56 Joubu yes indeed, CrispyBran_away you can replace it with [% UNLESS NOT A OR B %] if you want to be a real dev
17:56 Joubu (and make people crazy reading it...)
17:56 oleonard I forgot to "restart_all" after starting to grow my mustache and now I have a mullet instead.
17:57 * kidclamp misses his mullet
17:57 * mtompset gives Joubu the evil eye, "Unless is such a pain to read, particularly for newbies."
17:57 Joubu [% UNLESS A %] if much better than IF !A
17:57 mtompset People don't think in the negative.
17:57 Joubu same for [% IF !A && !B %] vs [% UNLESS A OR B %]
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17:58 Joubu I agree with the 'unless not a or b' ;)
17:58 * mtompset has his brain explode parsing that.
17:59 mtompset So...
17:59 mtompset oleonard: Joubu ... how do I put the strings in the template, but the code in the js?
18:00 Joubu not in js
18:00 oleonard mtompset: Look for examples in the templates which look like "MSG_..."
18:00 mtompset okay...
18:00 Joubu sorry for the last answer, misread :)
18:00 oleonard https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]bedded_JavaScript
18:01 stozza trying to export an items list, using the export data tool, I get the following
18:01 stozza Software error:
18:01 stozza Can't use an undefined value as a HASH reference at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/tools/ line 75.
18:02 mtompset oleonard: Thanks for that idea... I just noticed categories.js
18:04 Joubu stozza: Koha version?
18:05 Joubu stozza: but 18312
18:05 Joubu stozza: bug 18312
18:05 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18312 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Export is broken unless a file is supplied
18:05 Joubu you should upgrade
18:11 oleonard ashimema around?
18:43 stozza
18:45 stozza upgrading to 16.11.06, let's see
18:46 francharb Hello all! Quick question
18:46 francharb Which version of firefox do you use ?
18:46 francharb I upgraded from 52 to 53
18:46 francharb and now when I check out an item, it looks like the interface "wink"
18:46 oleonard sassy
18:47 oleonard Mine's 53. I always let it update automatically.
18:47 * oleonard can't test because this dev box is sick
18:48 stozza Joubu: is it ok to just upgrade via apt-get? I did it but got same error
18:48 mtompset francharb: I use chrome. :)
18:49 francharb oleonard, sick like "top notch" or like "needs to be fixed" ?
18:49 francharb ;)
18:49 stozza ok according to bugzilla the fix will be in 16.11.07
18:49 francharb mtompset, ahah! thanks anyway
18:49 mtompset oleonard: I hate when that happen... vagrant destroy and vagrant up are such a long painful process!
18:50 oleonard I've never had a fully working devbox on my Mac.
18:51 francharb my plan was to try this devbox one day
18:51 mtompset Oh right, you are a webby UI type. Sorry to hear there is development pain in Mac-ville.
18:51 francharb but if I can't use my computer
18:51 francharb ...
18:51 francharb I'll try anyway
18:52 mtompset francharb: the kohadevbox works well under Windoze, though it works better under Debian. :)
18:52 Joubu stozza: sounds like the package has not been generated yet, that should be done in a few days
18:52 francharb but yeah, I'm going to write the mailing list for this sassy "behaviour" :)
18:52 stozza I won't touch this one, and will wait for the deb pkg release :) thanks a lot
18:53 francharb I use Ubuntu at work. I have macos and lubuntu at home. My lubuntu computer works fine but it's so old. Not sure I can't use for anything but browsing the internet
18:54 mtompset Well, I've finished off the other reports, Joubu. I suppose we'll have to wait for someone to sign off the 7 more attachments.
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18:55 mtompset I think this is pretty. :) The HTML and JS is ugly, but it is much more pretty than before. :)
18:55 mtompset oleonard: Three more pages with no HTML errors in the staff client. :)
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19:06 liv_ong I want to use plack for OPAC but I get "Can't locate C4/"
19:07 liv_ong how to install C4?
19:14 magnuse liv_ong: C4 is a core part of koha
19:14 magnuse how did you install koha and how are you trying to run plack?
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20:01 Joubu kidclamp: why did you link 18504 and 17578?
20:01 kidclamp you added price calculation on one of the occurences, but not the other two
20:01 kidclamp price formatting
20:02 kidclamp ooh, I guess you just copied
20:02 kidclamp nvm
20:02 Joubu Just reading at the code it does not seem to be a regression
20:02 kidclamp is not, you are right, my mistake
20:03 kidclamp looked too fast
20:04 Joubu not a big deal anyway :)
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20:21 liv_ong thank you magnuse
20:22 liv_ong another question I'm trying to make plack work I have finished the setup but opening the host on port 5000 gets Not Found this is my opac
20:25 Joubu liv_ong: How are you installing Koha?
20:25 Joubu Are you following a doc?
20:28 liv_ong Joubu: yes, thanks, this one my koha version is 3.14.14
20:29 Joubu liv_ong: are you doing a new insllation?
20:29 liv_ong Joubu: I'm stuck in this part https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]lack#Running_OPAC with these messages
20:29 liv_ong Joubu: it's a fresh installation via source code, since I have that particular version in production
20:30 liv_ong Joubu: the idea is to have 3.14.14 with plack running
20:30 Joubu you should definitely think about upgrading to a most recent and supported version
20:31 Joubu 3.14 is old and no longer supported
20:31 cait and plack not supported well back then
20:31 Joubu iirc plack was not considered as stable under 3.14 and there are certainly some bugs that are not fixed in this version
20:32 Joubu liv_ong: you should spend you time upgrading the instance instead of me it works :)
20:32 Joubu make*
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20:35 Joubu liv_ong: and the paste you sent shows that you enabled nytprof, not recommended at all for production, only debug purpose
20:35 liv_ong Joubu: it's there anyway to bypass(disable) that feature?
20:36 Joubu comment all the "enable 'Debug',  panels" block
20:38 liv_ong Joubu: keeps on getting "Not Found"  :'(
20:38 liv_ong I have koha in /usr/share/koha
20:38 Joubu any good reasons not to update?
20:39 liv_ong Joubu: my boss is an assh*le
20:39 Joubu that's not a good reason :)
20:39 liv_ong Joubu: He tells "don't even try to change version, it's my favorite and it works"
20:39 Joubu not a sufficient reason I'd say :)
20:40 Joubu I can give you pointers to security issues that have not been backported into 3.14.x
20:40 Joubu I am sure that will make him change his mind
20:41 Joubu liv_ong: anyway, 3.14 does not support plack. You are going to introduce bugs
20:41 Joubu and then your boss will want to change
20:41 Joubu your are loosing your time, really
20:42 liv_ong Joubu: ok, will tell him then
20:42 liv_ong Joubu: if I upgrade to the latest, the plack enabling process is easy?
20:43 Joubu debian?
20:43 wahanui debian is Debian is never late or early. Debian arrives precisely when it means to.
20:43 Joubu liv_ong: if you are using debian:
20:44 Joubu trivial if you are using packages
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21:13 Joubu /clear
21:13 Joubu bye #koha
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22:17 cait ?
22:18 eythian cait: Just continuing the sequence you started
22:18 cait night :)
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