IRC log for #koha, 2017-03-28

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05:26 * magnuse waves
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06:03 magnuse dcook: that cyclone is not in your neck of the woods, i hope?
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06:45 reiveune hello
06:45 wahanui salut, reiveune
06:46 magnuse bonjour reiveune, paul_p
06:46 reiveune \o_
06:46 paul_p good morning everybody
06:47 magnuse another quiet day at the office? :-)
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06:52 alex_a bonjour
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06:55 fridolin hie dear community
06:55 fridolin watsup
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07:00 gaetan_B hello
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07:53 ashimema morning #koha
07:53 ashimema magnuse, quick check with you.. is ccode the same field in NORMARC as it is in MARC21.. I know they 'mostly' overlap/
07:54 magnuse ashimema: yeah 952 is identical for MARC21 and NORMARC
08:00 ashimema brill.. always worth checking before I made a fool of myself ;)
08:02 ashimema interesting.. your indexes are already slightly different for ccode?
08:02 ashimema marc21 appears to index as a phrase and word.. normarc just as a word
08:03 ashimema at least.. I think that's what this config line means
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08:04 sameeenz Sup fam?
08:09 magnuse ashimema++
08:10 magnuse @quote get random
08:10 huginn` magnuse: Error: 'random' is not a valid id.
08:10 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`.
08:10 magnuse @quote random
08:10 huginn` magnuse: Quote #187: "<slef> did wahanui just burst into flames?" (added by gmcharlt at 08:29 PM, February 20, 2012)
08:15 ashimema right.. bug 18322 is now well and truly ready for signoff..
08:15 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18322 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Add facets for ccode to zebra
08:16 eythian @wunder ams
08:16 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 11.0°C (9:55 AM CEST on March 28, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
08:16 eythian @later tell kidclamp sure, I don't know if I can be lots of help, but I can try
08:16 huginn` eythian: The operation succeeded.
08:27 magnuse @wunder enbo
08:27 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (10:20 AM CEST on March 28, 2017). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady).
08:28 magnuse make the white stuff go away, please?
08:29 * ashimema wonders if he would not like white stuff after a while if he lived somewhere that got it more regularly
08:31 magnuse yeah, it does have its good sides
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08:47 ashimema 'tis usually just a bit of slush and allot of traffic here to be honest ;)
08:48 ashimema but I'm missing the skiing.. now family life has set in I've not managed to get to the slopes for a couple of years now :(
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09:05 * magnuse skis when he has to
09:44 magnuse sip2. such fun.
09:48 mtj magnuse: do you run your SIP over stunnel, magnus?
09:48 magnuse nope
09:48 magnuse i probably should, eh?
09:48 mtj we had some reliability issues with sip2, that got fixed with stunnel
09:49 mtj yep, i work recommened it
09:51 mtj reliability and encryption... win win
09:52 mtj me if you want a hand, or a working .config example
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09:58 magnuse lunchtime, methinks
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10:41 eythian @wunder ams
10:41 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is 18.0°C (12:25 PM CEST on March 28, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 40%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.12 in 1020 hPa (Steady).
10:41 eythian that's a 1 and an 8!
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11:58 Joubu hi
11:58 wahanui what's up, Joubu
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12:14 magnuse @wunder enbo
12:14 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo Vi, Norway is -1.0°C (2:00 PM CEST on March 28, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Rising).
12:14 magnuse eythian: i have a 1 too
12:14 eythian magnuse: yes... that is, kinda true...
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12:25 tcohen morning
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12:27 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
12:27 marcelr hi #koha
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12:27 marcelr Joubu: status of bug 17560 should be Failed QA
12:27 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17560 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Hold fee placement at point of checkout
12:27 marcelr please reset it
12:28 marcelr i will answer your earlier question; please be patient
12:29 Joubu marcelr: Is there another FQA reason?
12:30 marcelr yes see the report; but i will add a comment
12:31 Joubu well there are 10 comments to pick a correct wording, it's hard to follow...
12:31 marcelr will try to make it more clear :)
12:32 marcelr but it is not about wording
12:44 marcelr nitpicking does not sound very appreciative
12:45 marcelr we say: muggenziften
12:45 marcelr mug=mosquito
12:46 Joubu when it's about wording it's always nitpicking, nothing condescendant from
12:46 Joubu Sorry if it was
12:46 marcelr do not like mosquitos at all
12:47 eythian marcelr: the version I heard was more about ants.
12:47 marcelr yeah eythian: even worse :)
12:47 marcelr your picking up dutch
12:48 eythian someone has to, no one else speaks it here.
12:48 marcelr ik zou het kunnen doen..
12:48 marcelr maar ja
12:48 marcelr btw do not forget mveron
12:49 marcelr i think he was in utrecht a while
12:49 magnuse schippermager schippermager ja of nee
12:49 marcelr close but not close enough :)
12:49 eythian oh yeah? I wist niet dat.
12:49 eythian +k
12:50 eythian Ik heb volgende week een Nederlands toets  :/
12:51 marcelr oei
12:51 marcelr een Nederlandse toets
12:51 eythian ja, dat
12:51 * kidclamp waves
12:51 marcelr de toets => die
12:51 marcelr het varken => dat
12:52 marcelr hi kidclamp
12:52 kidclamp hi marcelr eythian Joubu
12:52 eythian ik vind "de of het" niet leuk.
12:52 marcelr yeah we use it to see if someone comes from abroad ;)
12:53 marcelr and do you Word jij en jij wordt ( d / dt )
12:53 marcelr like
12:53 marcelr thats hard to explain
12:54 eythian oh yeah, the inversion losing the t thing.
12:54 eythian I get that wrong more often than not
12:54 eythian ook met "hij wil(t)"
12:57 Joubu hallo kidclamp
12:58 Joubu khall1: Hi! Should I switch the status of bug 15707 to 'in discussion'?
12:58 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15707 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to define hierarchical groups of libraries
13:00 khall1 Joubu: which do you think it should do, just do one level deep or go through the whole tree?
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13:02 Joubu khall1: I did not change my mind, I think it should go through the whole tree, otherwise it does not make sense
13:03 khall1 Joubu: I'm fine with that. I'll update the patch set to so it uses the whole tree
13:03 Joubu but it's only my feeling, if you think the other make more sense to you, we need to get other opinions
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13:57 astulib hello guys i'm wondering if marceditor can copy field number based on 952$t (copy number )
13:58 astulib let us asume i have 3 copy of one record i want to duplicate 952 fields three times using regular expressions
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17:12 beatsforthemind Hello
17:12 wahanui hey, beatsforthemind
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17:13 beatsforthemind Does anyone have any idea why searching for and then trying to add a controlled authority value would fail?
17:13 beatsforthemind When adding a new record
17:15 beatsforthemind Koha is hanging when I click “Choose” on an authority controlled tag I’ve searched for
17:15 beatsforthemind and what log might help for that
17:25 Joubu beatsforthemind: check your koha log file
17:25 bag morning
17:25 beatsforthemind @Joubu there are many. Which is the one I should check?
17:25 huginn` beatsforthemind: I've exhausted my database of quotes
17:26 Joubu how did you install Koha?
17:26 Joubu check /var/log/koha
17:26 Joubu hi bag
17:26 beatsforthemind apt-get install koha-common on ubuntu 16.x
17:26 bag heya Joubu
17:26 bag @wunder pdx
17:26 huginn` bag: Error: No such location could be found.
17:27 bag @wunder 97215
17:27 huginn` bag: Error: No such location could be found.
17:27 bag boo
17:27 beatsforthemind i’ve looked through those logs and i don’t think i’m seeing anything relavant
17:29 Joubu beatsforthemind: check your browser's console
17:30 beatsforthemind it’s clean
17:30 Joubu which version of Koha are you using?
17:30 beatsforthemind we are deploying koha on an AWS EC2 instance
17:30 beatsforthemind
17:31 beatsforthemind and it’s behind an nginx reverse proxy
17:31 beatsforthemind and ironing things out has been quite an experience
17:32 beatsforthemind Zebra 2.0.62
17:32 Joubu which field?
17:32 wahanui which field is probably used by default for the biblionumber with MARC21 ?
17:33 beatsforthemind 650a
17:35 Joubu works for me, same field, same version
17:35 Joubu how did you check the console?
17:35 beatsforthemind Chrome Dev Tools
17:35 wahanui Chrome Dev Tools are pretty good usually
17:35 Joubu firebug or dev tools (ctrl+c)
17:36 Joubu yep, then click on "persistent"
17:36 beatsforthemind So we login to Koha over https
17:36 Joubu to keep the log from one refresh to another
17:36 Joubu (ctrl+shift+c actually)
17:36 beatsforthemind but it looks like it’s trying to make some of the calls back when “Choosing” over http
17:39 Joubu does the popup close?
17:39 beatsforthemind no, it stays open
17:40 Joubu did you try another browser?
17:40 Joubu which one are you using?
17:40 beatsforthemind Chrome
17:41 Joubu tried with another one? From another computer?
17:41 Joubu (just in case...)
17:41 beatsforthemind So when I initiate adding the record over http. ie. -> http://library-ourdomain./cgi-[…]?frameworkcode=DD
17:42 beatsforthemind it will let me search and add fine, but when i initiate over https, it hangs when choosing the term
17:42 beatsforthemind which runs javascript:doauth('1336', 'tag_650_subfield_a_665307_32166', '')
17:43 beatsforthemind which redirects with '' + authid + '&index=' + index + '&repet=' + repet
17:44 beatsforthemind so something is going on with https vs http with that call
17:45 Joubu you can try to replace it with /cgi-bin/koha/authorities/bli​
17:45 Joubu but I do not know how it could change something
17:46 Joubu I guess if that was broken under https we would have gotten complains
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17:51 beatsforthemind i am going to see if was can force everything to https, have to contact the server admin
17:51 beatsforthemind server is currently responding to both
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18:53 iciubotaru Hello. We are running Koha in Chisinau, Moldova on How can we register our library in the koha community, so that (for example) our website would be posted on ?
18:54 cait hi :)
18:54 magnuse hiya iciubotaru
18:54 cait I think for hea you only have to fill out the system preferneces
18:54 magnuse there is a script/cronjob you can run
18:54 cait and then turn it on via the cronjob
18:55 magnuse there is some documentation here: https://perldoc.koha-community[…]ha_community.html
18:56 iciubotaru Thank you very much
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20:38 datadoctor Hi All - quick question about the newer ISBN prefix 979. The U.S. still uses 978, but some countries are coding with a 979 prefix, as 978's are expiring. For some reason my Koha install loves 978 ISBN numbers, but doesn't like 989 prefixes.
20:38 cait what happens?
20:39 datadoctor I floated it on a Koha mailing list and others said they could import 979's - for example I am trying a Z3950 search on '9791027601417' Deneux's "Seasons" - errors out on the ISBN checks.
20:40 cait what isbn checks?
20:40 cait i think koha doesn't relaly care, unless you have a local customization?
20:41 datadoctor Or if I try to enter the ISBN with the 979 prefix into the biblio record, it errors out, while other ISBNs seem to work.
20:41 cait whatis the error?
20:41 cait koha doesn't check on the content of the field itself - are oyu using a plugin?
20:41 datadoctor validates the ISBN number using Perl module Business::ISBN
20:41 datadoctor Line 1608 in is where I error out.
20:42 cait which version of koha are you using?
20:42 Joubu bug 14287?
20:42 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14287 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, Failed QA , Preserve valid ISBN-13 identifiers if they start with something else than 978
20:43 datadoctor I'm on 3.16.04, the line is if ($strip_hyphens) { $string = isbn->as_string( [] );
20:43 rangi[…]iblionumber=30727
20:43 rangi seems to work fine in 16.05.x
20:44 datadoctor The 14287 bug report appears to be relevant.
20:45 datadoctor Thanks for testing that.
20:45 wizzyrea 3.16 is pretty old now
20:45 rangi[…]iblionumber=30728
20:46 rangi you can put whatever you like in the isbn field
20:46 datadoctor Yes, we are planning to upgrade this year to teh newest stable version.
20:46 cait true
20:46 cait sorry have to leave, night all
20:48 datadoctor OK, it appears to be something wonky with the specific ISBN, other 979 prefixes do work properly.
20:49 datadoctor I'll chalk it up to a system glitch, possibly a problem with the checksum validation or inconsistency in the record.
20:49 datadoctor Thanks for your help!
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20:52 beatsforthemind Hello again
20:57 beatsforthemind When creating a new record and doing an authority term search it will always say tha the term was used “0 times” no matter how many times it was used.
20:57 beatsforthemind Has anyone come across anything like that?
20:58 wizzyrea did you add the authorities when you were cataloguing?
21:01 beatsforthemind I believe they were added from /cgi-bin/koha/authorities/ -> New from Z39.90
21:53 beatsforthemind What is the best way to upgrade the Perl modules that Koha is saying need to be upgraded on About -> Perl modules?
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