IRC log for #koha, 2017-03-02

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00:23 BobB wow siletzlib  didn't give us a lot of time
00:23 jac no he didn’t
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04:34 dcook For anyone who wants their mind blown:
04:34 dcook[…]ical_illusion.PNG
04:34 dcook Squares A and B are actually the same color: RGB 120,120,120
04:35 dcook You can verify this by replacing everything except those squares with a white background. Once you do that, your eyes will adapt, and they'll look like the same colour.
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06:45 * magnuse waves
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07:37 marcelr hi #koha
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07:56 alex_a hello
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08:56 cait good morning #koha
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09:18 * magnuse waves again
09:20 oha o/
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10:54 magnuse kia ora khall
10:59 oha quick update, i managed to refactor completely the authentication and session management, and the mechanism used to generate templates and permissions. right now it is modular, and has different plugins for session (memcached and db for now) and for auth (only simple auth)
10:59 oha got it working on my box at least, pretty happy about it
10:59 marcelr oha: thats sounds promising at least
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11:00 oha yup
11:00 marcelr oha: would your solution with sessions deal with a lot of concurrent users and thus a lot of sessions ?
11:00 oha need to do some clean up, but i think i reduce the code by 10 times
11:00 oha i think so
11:01 oha but there is a catch
11:01 oha it will work only on plack
11:01 marcelr so you need enough memory
11:01 oha i hadded a middleware for session management and authentication
11:01 oha marcelr: why? it is stored on db or memcached for now
11:01 marcelr probably most koha boxes still use the database
11:02 marcelr the memcache option for sessions is newer
11:02 oha speaking of, the sessions table miss the expiry column
11:02 oha but anyways, it will take time to get this into master
11:02 marcelr it is in the record
11:02 oha shib and cas need to be reimplemented on the new system
11:02 marcelr did you put your code on a report already?
11:03 oha marcelr: yeah, but you might want to do cleanup
11:03 * ashimema would love to push for Plack only support and migrate away from our horrible plack in cgi compatibility cruft
11:03 marcelr takes 10 years ?
11:04 oha not really
11:04 marcelr ok
11:04 * ashimema apologises in advance for the plethora of join/parts he may inflict on people today.. currently running on a mobile connection as the land internet is dead :(
11:05 oha ashimema: my though is to refactor ONLY for plack, which might give a push towards that
11:06 oha i even tried to move the cgi script to functions, and it works pretty well after the refactoring
11:06 ashimema mm, well. I'm not sure how much push back will happen on that.. I'd love to see it, but I tihnk last time it came up it went down like a stone :(
11:07 oha must go lunch now, but i was thinking to share my findings and discuss about it
11:07 marcelr oha: put it on a report and send a mail to the dev list
11:08 marcelr and have a lot of patience ;)
11:57 oha marcelr: sounds like a good plan. maybe i should push it on a branch on github?
11:57 marcelr yeah
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12:41 * druthb steps up to the mic, and sings "Happy Birthday" to cait, at the top of her lungs.
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12:43 magnuse ooh, happy birthday cait!
12:44 magnuse confetti!
12:45 magnuse (my calendar knew that, but i only look at it if i am putting new things into it)
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12:49 oleonard Hi all
12:51 magnuse howdy oleonard
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12:58 tcohen morning #koha
12:58 tcohen @later tell drojf what about 16.05.10 packages?
12:58 huginn` tcohen: The operation succeeded.
12:59 tcohen @wunder cordoba, argentina
12:59 huginn` tcohen: The current temperature in Cordoba, Argentina is 23.0°C (9:00 AM ART on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 78%. Dew Point: 19.0°C. Pressure: 29.68 in 1005 hPa (Steady).
12:59 cait thx druthb! magnuse!
12:59 magnuse cait!
12:59 druthb cait!
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12:59 druthb cait++
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13:13 cait druthb: thx for remembering :)
13:14 druthb :)  I have a calendar that remembers for me--and unlike magnuse, I actually look at mine.
13:15 cait druthb++ for being organized
13:15 magnuse ooh, clever!
13:15 magnuse druthb++
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13:24 tcohen @seen drojf
13:24 huginn` tcohen: drojf was last seen in #koha 21 hours, 24 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <drojf> later #koha
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14:02 magnuse NateC!
14:02 magnuse kidclamp!
14:02 NateC hiya magnuse!
14:05 kidclamp hi magnuse
14:05 magnuse bonjour!
14:06 magnuse @wunder enbo
14:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (2:50 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 64%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -8.0°C. Pressure: 29.33 in 993 hPa (Steady).
14:06 magnuse @wunder marseille, france
14:06 huginn` magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 17.9°C (3:00 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 65%. Dew Point: 11.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Falling).
14:06 magnuse ooh!
14:14 kidclamp happy birthday cait!
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14:19 cait thx kidclamp
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14:53 marcelr bye #koha
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15:11 oleonard Happy birthday cait!
15:11 * oleonard adds it to his calendar
15:11 cait thx oleonard
15:11 cait :)
15:14 eythian oh! happy caiterday!
15:14 cait thx eythian :)
15:14 eythian @wunder ams
15:14 huginn` eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is 7.3°C (4:11 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 29.82 in 1010 hPa (Rising).
15:15 eythian who's a bad hoevedorp? You are! You're a bad hoevedorp!
15:19 kchris Happy birthday cait!
15:20 cait thx kchris
15:20 * cait shares virtual birthday cake with #koha
15:21 cait @wunder Konstanz
15:21 huginn` cait: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is 11.2°C (4:11 PM CET on March 02, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 41%. Dew Point: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
15:21 cait mostly sunny here today
15:21 * oleonard hopes LibraryClaire is not here because she's preparing cait's party
15:22 cait hm no party that I know of
15:23 oleonard that you know of
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15:26 eythian oleonard: she's been away a few days I think, so it must be a big one!
15:26 oleonard cait deserves it!
15:26 oleonard If LibraryClaire doesn't come through I'll bring a birthday cake with me to the next hackfest I make it to.
15:28 cait i will keep that in mind :)
15:29 * oleonard thinks that by the time he makes it to another hackfest he'll need to bring 3 or 4 cakes...
15:29 cait hope it won't that long
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15:31 oleonard LibraryClaire: Did you feel your ears burning?
15:31 LibraryClaire hm?
15:32 * LibraryClaire woke up from a nap and is horribly bored
15:33 oleonard We were all talking about how much we missed you. And, uh... the hypothetical birthday cake you were making for cait.
15:33 LibraryClaire aah
15:33 LibraryClaire I has the lurgy
15:33 oleonard All the lurgies?
15:33 LibraryClaire feels like
15:35 LibraryClaire probably best cake waits until I can't fill it with icky virus
15:35 * cait would prefer that :)
15:36 * LibraryClaire contemplates having another nap
15:36 oleonard No question about it.
15:39 LibraryClaire the nap?
15:39 oleonard yes
15:40 LibraryClaire yeah, computer is hard work, it might go back on the floor
15:45 * LibraryClaire lies down
15:45 LibraryClaire laters
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15:59 reiveune bye
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16:25 baptiste is there any function to check if a value of a multivaluated system preference is on ? I don't find any
16:32 cait have you looked at the systempreferences sql table?
16:33 cait they are still only stored as a value i think, possibly separted by |
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18:07 rocio morning
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21:48 nuentoter is there any way to get my overdue list to print for a specified list of patrons only? whether they meet the status trigger or not?
21:49 wizzyrea hm, you mean from the report in the circulation module?
21:55 nuentoter sorry just realized i worded that poorly
21:55 nuentoter I would like to print my overdue notices from a list rather than from the status trigger, is that possible?
21:56 wizzyrea Oh, um. Hm.
21:56 wizzyrea I am certain it could be arranged, but I don't think it's currently a feature, no
21:56 wizzyrea well hm I say that
21:56 nuentoter ok, i didn't think so, but I have been well known to completely miss obvious things
21:56 wizzyrea if you have a look
21:56 wizzyrea at the circulation -> overdues
21:57 wizzyrea i think you can do them one by one
21:57 wizzyrea but that's probs not what you're after
21:58 wizzyrea there is also
21:58 wizzyrea a "download file of all overdues"
21:59 wizzyrea from that report
21:59 wizzyrea and I'm not SURE but you could check
21:59 wizzyrea that the filters will affect what's downloaded there.
21:59 nuentoter i have a list of 180 patrons that will not show up in the status trigger because of certain rules but they still need a letter sent out
21:59 wizzyrea hm.
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22:00 wizzyrea well, ok, can you put those borrowers into a category
22:00 wizzyrea and set special triggers for them?
22:00 nuentoter ooh thats an idea, because i can batch edit them, even temporarily
22:00 wizzyrea yep
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22:01 nuentoter that should be much easier, that copy pasting 180 letters and items and info ..... was not looking forward to doing it the long way
22:01 wizzyrea you have a good point though that sending arbitrary overdue notices would be nice
22:01 wizzyrea like say, from a patron list
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22:01 nuentoter yup i made the list just assuming i could, but then found out nooo.
22:01 wizzyrea "send these borrowers notices I say!"
22:02 wizzyrea do you know what would be awesome
22:02 wizzyrea heh
22:02 wizzyrea it would be awesome to say, run that overdue report from circ
22:02 wizzyrea put on some filters
22:02 wizzyrea and then say "export these borrowers to a list"
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22:02 wizzyrea and then "print notices for these borrowers overdues"
22:02 nuentoter i did pretty much that, except the print notice for these ppl part
22:03 wizzyrea but by hand :)
22:03 nuentoter yeah
22:03 wizzyrea I mean have a button on the overdues list that makes a list of the unique borrowers there
22:03 wizzyrea automagically
22:04 wizzyrea so many ways to use patron lists. we could do more of that.
22:04 nuentoter printing patron cards and edit and delete are pretty much all the patron list seems good for atm
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