IRC log for #koha, 2017-02-08

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04:15 jcamins @later tell tcohen RS256 or DEAAAAATTTTTHHHHH.
04:15 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
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07:05 Joubu hi #koha
07:06 LibraryClaire hi Joubu, hi #koha
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07:10 drojf hi #koha
07:11 LibraryClaire moin drojf
07:11 drojf hi LibraryClaire
07:14 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
07:14 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Aprikosensteig, Berlin, Germany is -3.9°C (8:12 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -7.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.36 in 1028 hPa (Rising).
07:18 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
07:18 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 4.6°C (8:13 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Light Drizzle. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: 5.0°C. Pressure: 30.04 in 1017 hPa (Steady).
07:19 drojf unfair
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07:34 * magnuse waves
07:34 magnuse @wunder enbo
07:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 43%. Dew Point: -14.0°C. Windchill: -10.0°C. Pressure: 30.83 in 1044 hPa (Steady).
07:34 magnuse @wunder marseille
07:34 huginn magnuse: Error: No such location could be found.
07:34 magnuse @wunder marseille, france
07:34 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Marseille, France is 8.0°C (8:30 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 29.95 in 1014 hPa (Rising).
07:35 LibraryClaire hi magnuse
07:35 wahanui kamelåså
07:36 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara
07:36 magnuse bonjour matts
07:41 matts hello magnuse !
07:41 magnuse @wunder longyearbyen
07:41 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Svalbard, Norway is 3.0°C (8:20 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Rising).
07:41 magnuse now that is weird!
07:43 magnuse 20 degrees above normal for this time of year
07:45 LibraryClaire eek
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07:50 drojf hei magnuse
07:50 magnuse moin drojf
07:50 magnuse hiya josef_moravec
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07:54 alex_a salut
07:54 drojf hi alex_a
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07:57 LibraryClaire hi alex_a
07:59 magnuse ooh, mahara has custom lego?
08:00 drojf we should have koha merchandise
08:02 drojf i wanted to have 3d printed custom wine gums for the berlin hackfest, but the 3d wine gum printer had already left town :P
08:02 magnuse 3d wine gum printer!
08:02 magnuse yeah, koha merchandise would be cool
08:04 drojf they had the printer in some store in berlin, but then moved it to another location. maybe there is another one now, have not checked since
08:05 drojf i'd like one myself. and then just lie under it with my mouth open
08:06 drojf might be fun only the first five minutes though
08:07 josef_moravec hi magnuse
08:07 wahanui kamelåså
08:07 josef_moravec morning koha ;)
08:07 drojf hi josef_moravec
08:08 josef_moravec hi drojf ;)
08:11 josef_moravec somebody interested in testing bug 18061 ? ;)
08:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Enhance items page ( with Bootstrap 3 panels
08:13 magnuse drojf: do you really need them custom shaped if you are having them piped straight into your mouth? ;-)
08:14 drojf magnuse: they will be custom shaped to my stomach
08:15 magnuse ah, that makes sense!
08:16 drojf hmm maybe the printer is still there after all. or again
08:16 drojf ha
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08:35 fridolin hie there
08:35 drojf hi fridolin
08:36 fridolin drojf LibraryClaire magnuse and Cie : le bonjour
08:36 LibraryClaire salut fridolin
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08:37 fridolin drojf: do you know if there is a work on Koha for Debian Stretch ?
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08:39 drojf fridolin: i have tried packaging in a stretch vm and will add it to the koha nightlies when i have some time. bug 17618 might be relevant, it ws for xenial i think
08:39 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17618 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, mirko, Needs Signoff , perl-modules Debian package name change in Perl 5.22
08:39 fridolin drojf: there is also a known issue with OAI Perl lib
08:40 drojf do you have a link or some more info?
08:40 magnuse hiya fridolin
08:46 drojf fridolin: ^
08:48 fridolin drojf:  Bug 17704
08:48 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17704 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , OAI-PMH compatiblity with Ubuntu Xenial and Debian Stretch
08:49 drojf ah right i already knew that once
08:50 drojf @later tell rangi could we get the keyword "stretch" for bugzilla please?
08:50 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
08:58 josef_moravec Hello LibraryClaire, thank for sign off ;)
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09:01 LibraryClaire hi josef_moravec - no worries :)
09:13 magnuse bug 18061
09:13 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18061 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Signed Off , Enhance items page ( with Bootstrap 3 panels
09:13 magnuse LibraryClaire++
09:22 eythian so my @wunder ams
09:22 eythian err
09:22 eythian @wunder ams
09:22 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Schiphol, Badhoevedorp, Netherlands is -0.3°C (10:20 AM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Snow Grains. Humidity: 92%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.25 in 1024 hPa (Rising).
09:22 eythian heh "snow grains"
09:28 drojf hi eythian
09:28 eythian hello drojf
09:29 drojf what is snow grains? hail?
09:32 eythian I think it means that it's snowing, but not quite enough to call it snow. Or something along those lines.
09:32 drojf oh it is less than snow? it sounded like more, or special
09:32 eythian oh, no, it's different
09:32 eythian
09:33 eythian so I guess it's like big snowflakes/tiny hail
09:33 drojf ah. graupel maybe
09:33 drojf in german
09:33 eythian no
09:33 drojf leo says graupel is soft hail. lol
09:34 drojf wtf
09:34 eythian "Unlike snow pellets, snow grains..."
09:34 eythian and snow pellets are graupel in English
09:34 drojf then i call it schneeregen and don't care
09:34 drojf or it's weather we don't have :P
09:35 eythian one of those many things that's untranslateable into German
09:36 drojf we have a word for everything
09:36 drojf a very long word
09:37 drojf or i will borrow lumijyvänen
09:37 drojf that looks nice
09:37 eythian it's apparently just "lichte sneeuw" here.
09:38 drojf sleet is schlackerwetter
09:38 drojf it's all schlackerwetter
09:39 eythian I guess English speakers make better eskimos.
09:39 drojf yup
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10:04 drojf later #koha
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10:40 drojf hi again
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10:43 LibraryClaire hi drojf
11:19 cait Joubu: did you want to scare everyone by putting the next release in march? :)
11:21 cait Joubu++
11:23 cait awesome summary
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11:51 rsantellan good morning #koha
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12:48 oleonard Hi #koha
12:49 LibraryClaire hey oleonard
12:49 wahanui oleopard
12:52 drojf ho ileopard
12:56 eythian hi oleopard
12:57 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
12:57 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 1.8°C (1:53 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Grains. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.27 in 1025 hPa (Steady).
12:59 cait @wunder Konstanz
12:59 huginn cait: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 6.7°C (1:53 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 4.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.09 in 1019 hPa (Steady).
12:59 eythian toasty
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13:06 drojf @wunder berlin, germany
13:06 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin, Berlin, Germany is -2.2°C (2:04 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
13:06 drojf :(
13:12 LibraryClaire last week I didn'T needa  coat when I went to the breakfast lady. It was very exciting and then I realised it was still only 2° C
13:12 magnuse @wunder enbo
13:12 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (1:50 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 47%. Dew Point: -11.0°C. Windchill: -7.0°C. Pressure: 30.86 in 1045 hPa (Steady).
13:13 magnuse LibraryClaire: the breakfast lady?
13:13 eythian magnuse: you don't have a breakfast lady?
13:13 LibraryClaire there's a bakery van that drives around the industrial area here and stops outside the office at like 7:50/7:55 am
13:13 eythian that's what's wrong with your country
13:13 magnuse not that i know
13:13 LibraryClaire sometimes i buy breakfast/lunch from her
13:14 magnuse nice!
13:14 LibraryClaire there's an exciting insight into the start of myday
13:15 eythian I wish I editing the hours of a place in google maps actually made the shop change its hours.
13:15 eythian *I wish that
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13:15 eythian because then I could make the bakery near me still be open when I get home from work
13:16 eythian and on sunday
13:17 LibraryClaire I know there are bakerys open on Sunday but I haven't figured out which ones yet
13:17 oleonard It's just as well there isn't a breakfast lady here because I'd buy from her every day and go broke.
13:18 oleonard LibraryClaire: Bakery stakeout!
13:18 LibraryClaire breakfast lady saves my day most days
13:18 eythian I like the one near me, it's really good, just the hours mean that I only get to go there on saturdays.
13:18 eythian (or I could get up earlier, but ahahaha)
13:21 LibraryClaire oleonard: I literally need to go round all of them and find their opening times. Suspect they're only open til like 7 though
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13:27 magnuse just count yourselves lucky you have bakeries
13:28 LibraryClaire it's a higlight of moving back to Germany
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13:45 eythian I had a look on maps at all the ones around where I live. None are open on Sunday, and only the one closest gets all 5/5 reviews.
13:48 oleonard
13:52 * LibraryClaire drools
13:52 eythian Athens is a bit far away from me though
13:53 eythian I wouldn't have much of a day left after dealing with airports and flying to greece
13:53 oleonard Sorry eythian, an even farther Athens.
13:54 eythian you can't just make up places, oleonard.
13:54 oleonard Hey we stole this country fair and square, we get to make up all the names.
13:55 * LibraryClaire takes the bread and backs away slowly
13:56 * ashimema bakes bread and backs away slowly ;)
13:57 oleonard if there's an opposite to gluten-intolerance I have it. I could live on bread and beer.
13:59 LibraryClaire I love bread
14:00 drojf take all the bread and beer, weird gluten people
14:01 * ashimema loves bread too..
14:01 ashimema which is good, because I live near a massive industry size bakery and have the smell of cooking bread nearly all day most days ;)
14:02 LibraryClaire the best smell
14:02 LibraryClaire apart from frying onions
14:02 ashimema hence why I bake allot of my own bread.. ;)
14:03 ashimema[…]3115!4d-0.1654896 it really is a massive bakery
14:04 * LibraryClaire wants bread now
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14:16 jcamins ashimema: now I want to bake more bread.
14:16 * magnuse has not baked bread in a loooong time
14:20 oleonard Heh, the smell of bread attracted jcamins
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14:31 cait hm interesting effect
14:32 jcamins cait: is it so surprising?
14:32 cait hm not really, just wondering how we could make use of it to get the queues down ;)
14:32 ashimema :)
14:32 ashimema nothing like pounding a bread doe in the morning ;)
14:33 ashimema and the smell of fresh bread baking in the oven wafting up at lunch time ;)
14:33 LibraryClaire[…]28957134310219776
14:36 * magnuse wanders off to cook skrei
14:37 * LibraryClaire googles skrei
14:38 oleonard I hear it's Norway's best kept secret.
14:38 LibraryClaire German google tells me it's a Kabeljau
14:39 eythian Kabeljauw here
14:39 * LibraryClaire finds translator
14:39 eythian atlantic cod
14:39 LibraryClaire ah cod
14:39 eythian (handy trick: stick '&hl=en' to the end of a google url to switch it to english.)
14:39 LibraryClaire I knew it was a fish, but I don't knwo the German names for fishies
14:40 magnuse kabeljau sounds horrible
14:40 magnuse it's a special kind of cod
14:40 drojf no it sounds happy
14:40 LibraryClaire yes, it said it was a special norwegian "winterkabeljau"
14:40 drojf kabel? jau!
14:41 magnuse it migrates from the barents sea way up i nthe north to the Lofoten area to mate
14:41 * oleonard wonders if this article, "Skrei Cod, the New Food Fetish" is accurate when it says it's also called the "Fish of love."
14:41 LibraryClaire and then you eat it
14:41 eythian sounds like the sort of thing that would take down the internet of island countries.
14:41 drojf so you make love to it and then eat it?
14:41 drojf weird fetish
14:41 magnuse fish of love - yeah, they come here to mate and we catch and eat then
14:41 LibraryClaire being a fish must suck
14:42 eythian also a weird fetish
14:42 magnuse lulz - i'll wander off now i think :-)
14:42 oleonard Thanks for the fish lesson magnuse, I feel like I've learned all I need to learn today.
14:43 * oleonard quits early
14:43 LibraryClaire and more
14:43 drojf to mate?
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15:13 Joubu cait: heh indeed, May, not March...
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15:15 cait wake up call :)
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15:16 tcohen hi
15:17 LibraryClaire hola tcohen
15:17 tcohen jcamins++
15:29 tcohen hi LibraryClaire
15:29 LibraryClaire o/
15:31 eythian @later tell dcook[…]1rn7bzro1_400.jpg
15:31 huginn eythian: The operation succeeded.
15:36 oleonard eythian: Have you been hanging out on /r/ShowerVegemite again?
15:37 LibraryClaire lol
15:37 eythian I don't do vegemite, thank you very much. Where I come from, we have standards.
15:37 LibraryClaire but what if you like vegemite and marmite?
15:37 eythian not permitted.
15:37 * LibraryClaire feels like a rebel
15:40 eythian get out
15:41 LibraryClaire NZ marmite is different to british marmite
15:41 eythian yep
15:42 eythian (well, so I've heard, don't think I've tried the british version.)
15:42 eythian I should go to the M&S before it closes down here and see if they have it there, for science.
15:43 LibraryClaire I found some here in the supermarket, they don't understand though. They put it in the soup and stock area, not with the spreads
15:43 eythian ‽
15:43 eythian crazy country
15:44 eythian[…]-deuren~a4410975/ <-- think I'm a bit late :/
15:45 eythian on the other hand, their website suggests they're open. Who knows.
15:48 * LibraryClaire wants bread covered in yeast extract products
15:48 * drojf shivers
15:48 eythian I still have a 500gm jar that the koha team gave me before I left. Next time someone comes over from NZ, I'm going to have to put an order in for another one.
15:49 * oleonard dips his bread covered in yeast extract into his beer
15:49 * cait shudders
15:50 * LibraryClaire thinks oleonard is a genius
15:50 * drojf dies allergy death just from watching
15:51 eythian <-- haha, they had to change the name
15:52 LibraryClaire sanitarium yeast extract sounds so delicious and inviting...
15:53 eythian doesn't it just!
15:54 fridolin sseeee u
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16:00 oleonard Maybe we need an international yeast extract tasting at the next Hackfest
16:00 LibraryClaire :D :D
16:00 oleonard (sorry drojf)
16:00 drojf sure, have all the yeast fun you want
16:01 drojf i can sit in the corner with a glass of water
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16:03 * drojf head home
16:03 drojf later #koha
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16:53 eythian @wunder jordaaan, ams
16:53 huginn eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
16:53 eythian @wunder jordaaan, amsterdam
16:53 huginn eythian: Error: HTTP Error 404: Not Found
16:53 eythian @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
16:53 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 1.9°C (5:49 PM CET on February 08, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 79%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
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17:15 Joubu josef_moravec_: Are you around?
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17:33 tcohen hi
17:35 CrispyBran hello
17:35 wahanui salut, CrispyBran
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17:40 CrispyBran tcohen, I'm looking at the instructions on the kohadevbox for working on patches, but I don't see anything about branches.  Are we using branches in this environment?
17:40 CrispyBran I see how to apply a patch, but I don't see anything on removing it when done.
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17:41 cait you work like with git
17:41 oleonard CrispyBran: It's not really an kohadevbox issue but a git workflow issue CrispyBran
17:41 cait branches, git bz etc.
17:44 oleonard CrispyBran: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Control_Using_Git
17:47 CrispyBran The workflow is a bit fuzzy.  When I do vagrant up my environment is up, but then there are instructions for logging into the box (vagrant ssh), and getting into the instance's user session (sudo koha-shell kohadev).  There is some information on the instance's user session, but I am not getting when I need to vagrant ssh and when I need to get into the instance's user session.  I don't really understand what the instance is.
17:50 CrispyBran From what I can see, I can only run the git branch commands outside of the instance user session and outside of vagrant ssh.  Is that where I should be issuing these commands?
17:51 oleonard CrispyBran: My understanding is that you only need to use koha-shell for running commands which require instance-specific environment variables
17:51 oleonard Everything else you do outside of that
17:52 cait like if you want to run cronjob or maintenance scripts manually - then you would do koha-shell
17:52 oleonard If you're not syncing with a git repository on your host machine you should do all your git stuff after 'vagrant ssh'
17:53 oleonard CrispyBran: If you're just testing patches you don't need to worry about saving your work for later in branches
17:54 CrispyBran In the past I have used branches to copy the master and apply patches.  Then when I am done I get rid of the branch.  If I don't use a branch, how do I remove patches when done testing?
17:56 oleonard If you're just testing, you can apply patches directly on the master branch and then reset it
17:56 oleonard git reset --hard origin
17:56 oleonard That will kill all the changes made by the patch (or any other work you did)
17:57 CrispyBran That is a workflow I haven't seen before.  Any other work?  Like bib changes or preference changes?
17:57 oleonard No
17:57 oleonard the database isn't affected by git
17:58 oleonard The alternative is to create a new branch for each patch you want to test and then delete the branch when you're done
17:58 oleonard This might be useful if you want to be able to switch between master and your testing branch to compare the difference
17:59 CrispyBran Okay, I think I will keep it the way I know then.  Makes it easier on me.
17:59 CrispyBran :)
17:59 CrispyBran Thanks for the guidance.
19:01 cait oleonard++ :)
19:02 cait meeting time?
19:02 wahanui mmm meat
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19:03 koha hello
19:03 oleonard 1 hour I thought
19:03 cait ah ok
19:03 cait yep i think you are right
19:04 koha I have question in koha
19:04 oleonard ...because in 1 hour I have to leave
19:04 koha I imported .mrc file into my koha system
19:04 koha and I saw the metadata of the books in OPAC
19:05 koha but I want to add the pdf of all this books
19:05 koha how ?
19:06 koha are you here?
19:08 oleonard You want to add the PDF version of the books?
19:08 koha yes
19:08 koha how ?
19:09 oleonard Koha isn't really designed to do that
19:09 koha ohh
19:10 oleonard You can do it, but the workflow may not suit you
19:10 koha but if the customer want to buy a book , what will we do?
19:10 oleonard Buy a book? Koha isn't designed for selling books. It's library software.
19:11 koha but the client may want to read any of this books ,right ?
19:11 oleonard You could upload PDFs to a web-accessible location on your server and link to them via the 856 tag
19:12 oleonard But Koha cannot control access to those files. It's not built to do that.
19:12 koha hmm
19:12 koha but what is the benefit of display only the metadata of books
19:12 oleonard That's what library catalogs do
19:13 koha what is the benefit for the client?
19:13 oleonard ...because they are access points for physical collections of items to be borrowed.
19:13 koha hmm
19:13 cait they can find out if the book is available in the library  - and place a hold if it's lend to someone else already
19:14 cait you can also present electornic collections - but the access to the resources will usually be dealt with by the provider
19:16 koha thanks very much mr cait and mr oleonard
19:16 koha thanks for your help
19:17 oleonard You're welcome mr koha
19:17 koha You helped me alot
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19:56 oleonard Bye #koha
20:00 kidclamp hi everybody!
20:00 wahanui Hi, Doctor Nick!
20:00 kidclamp yes yes yes yes yes yes yes
20:00 drojf hi kidclamp
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20:01 * kidclamp always slightyl regrets not going with doctornick just for that reason
20:01 barton kidclamp needs joy's yes button.
20:01 kidclamp it's my impression of the bit from tron
20:01 kidclamp people want to have a meeting?
20:02 barton yeah, I was thinking about that as well.
20:02 kidclamp I'll give it a few just for people to wander in
20:03 * cait waves
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20:05 kidclamp alrighty
20:05 kidclamp #startmeeting Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017
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20:05 kidclamp #topic Introductions
20:05 Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017)
20:05 wahanui #info wahanui, a bot that has become sentient
20:05 josef_moravec1 #info Josef Moravec, Municipal Library Usti nad Orlici
20:05 drojf #info Mirko Tietgen, Berlin, Germany
20:05 kidclamp #info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions
20:05 cait #info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany
20:06 barton #info Barton Chittenden, BWS
20:06 Joubu #info Jonathan Druart
20:06 kidclamp okay
20:06 kidclamp #topic Announcements
20:06 Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017)
20:06 barton here's the agenda: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_8_February_2017
20:07 cait #link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_8_February_2017 today's agenda
20:07 kidclamp thanks barton cait
20:07 kidclamp anyone have any announcements?
20:07 Joubu it's empty
20:07 kidclamp yup
20:08 kidclamp quick meeting :-D
20:08 kidclamp no code guidelins to review so moving on
20:08 kidclamp #topic Update form the Release manager (17.05)
20:08 Topic for #koha is now Update form the Release manager (17.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017)
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20:09 kidclamp Kyle can't be here but says there is nothing major to report, things are moving along
20:09 Shane-S far behind am running
20:09 cait far
20:09 kidclamp heh 3.22 - 16.05 - 16.11
20:10 cait kidclamp types faster than me :)
20:10 kidclamp speaking of 16.11
20:10 kidclamp #topic Updates from the Release Maintainers
20:10 Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017)
20:10 cait we just had 16.11.03 as a security release
20:10 barton nice segue kidclamp.
20:10 Shane-S I had a patron card creator question...but well....old software now
20:10 cait #info String freeze for 16.11.04 will be Wednesday 15th (next week)
20:10 Shane-S I can't seem to add all patrons...have to do it one "Add" link at a time...
20:11 kidclamp Shane-S - we are in a meeting, please join us and save question for after?
20:11 cait i'd like to see as many bug fixes processed as possible before then, of course
20:11 cait i have just caught up with master again last night
20:11 cait for example
20:11 Shane-S Oh, sure thing it can wait
20:11 cait bug 17940
20:11 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17940 critical, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Holds not going to waiting state after having been transferred
20:11 kidclamp #info Bug 17940 is needed before string freeze
20:12 cait one sec
20:12 kidclamp okay
20:12 cait ok
20:12 cait i am looking into including bug 17913 too
20:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17913 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Merge three authority merge fixes
20:12 cait but it would be nice if someone could help with testing
20:13 kidclamp #info Bug 17913 is desired if someone can help test
20:13 cait #info Release is planned to be on 22nd.
20:14 cait Please let me know if I should miss something - trying hard not to break things :)
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20:14 khall_ #info Kyle Hall, ByWater
20:14 cait kidclamp: done :)
20:14 kidclamp cait: dont be the big yellow bird:
20:14 cait hm haven't grown any feathers yet
20:14 cait but otherwise that looks a bit like me in rl
20:15 cait :)
20:15 kidclamp I don't think we have any other maintainers so moving on
20:15 kidclamp #topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...)
20:15 Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017)
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20:16 kidclamp Since tcohen is not here I will note that the latest version includes ES5 support and we need more testing there
20:16 Joubu Some things are in the email I sent today. Just read it, and get involved...
20:16 kidclamp #info Read Jonathans 'what's on in koha-devel'
20:17 kidclamp #info test Elastisearch 5.X in the new kohadevbox
20:17 kidclamp last call if anyone wants to jump in
20:18 kidclamp #topic Updates from the QA team
20:18 Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017)
20:18 cait Joubu++ again for his summary and work on the different projects
20:18 kidclamp #info please look at Jonathan's 'what's on in koha-devel' it is very useful here too
20:18 kidclamp Joubu++
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20:19 Joubu thanks, good to know it's useful
20:19 barton I love reading those. I feel like I know what's going on :-)
20:19 kidclamp any other QA updates?
20:20 kidclamp #info May is not March, but time flies - keep up on the queues where we can
20:20 kidclamp :D
20:20 Joubu indeed :)
20:21 kidclamp #topic Set time of next meeting
20:21 Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 8 February 2017)
20:21 kidclamp I believe we actually have that set
20:21 kidclamp https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_22_February
20:21 kidclamp 22 February 2017, 13:00 UTC
20:22 kidclamp #info please add your apologies to meetings you can't make and let us know if the times are not working
20:23 kidclamp #endmeeting
20:23 cait good one
20:23 Topic for #koha is now Welcome to the #koha IRC chat | Code of conduct -[…]/code-of-conduct/ | Please use for pastes | Installation guide for Koha is
20:23 huginn Meeting ended Wed Feb  8 20:23:08 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)
20:23 huginn Minutes:        http://meetings.koha-community[…]-02-08-20.05.html
20:23 huginn Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]7-02-08-20.05.txt
20:23 huginn Log:            http://meetings.koha-community[…]08-20.05.log.html
20:23 josef_moravec1 it was quick today ;)
20:23 cait kidclamp++
20:23 drojf kidclamp++
20:23 cait ah and btw
20:23 kidclamp koha++
20:23 cait josef_moravec1++
20:23 cait josef_moravec++ too
20:23 cait now i have a nick I can give karma to :)
20:23 josef_moravec1 cait++ ;)
20:24 josef_moravec1 cait: I am going to try 17913 on 16.11
20:24 Joubu mr cait++
20:24 cait :P
20:24 cait josef_moravec1: that would be much appreciated!
20:24 barton whole meeting in 18 minutes.
20:25 kidclamp heh speed is nice, but good discussion is useful :-)
20:25 josef_moravec1 kidclamp++
20:26 Joubu Those quick meetings sounds useless to me
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20:26 cait I got help with testing
20:26 cait :)
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20:31 Joubu bye #koha, see you tomorrow!
20:32 drojf bye #koha, see you tomorrow!
20:32 drojf too lazy to have own goodbye
20:34 barton 'his own goodbye' sounds like a euphimism for death.
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20:43 Shane-S okay anyone know a way to get all search results in the Patron Card Creator added to the batch...I am on 3.20(I know...summer new server and migration planned). Right now you click "Add" on the right of each name.
20:45 cait Shane-S: sorry, don't have the old one and we never used labels :(
20:47 Shane-S okay thank you, I wish I could upgrade quicker...but its a 1 woman show in the library, so I hate to upset her with changes
20:48 Shane-S Not an emergency just thought someone might have a trick. I can keep doing ID exports and using word with free 3 of 9
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21:08 Harold good day all
21:14 cait hi Harold
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21:31 cait josef_moravec1: taking another look at bug 18073
21:31 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18073 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Needs Signoff , Holds to pull UI improvements
21:31 cait should it show up on the administration page for columns settings?
21:32 josef_moravec1 cait: yes it should
21:33 cait we don't have a holds tab there
21:33 cait if i change in the yaml file to circulation it works
21:33 cait well it shows up in circulation then :)
21:33 josef_moravec1 cait: no, we have circulation only ad hold tables are here...
21:33 josef_moravec1 yep ;)
21:33 cait would you agree changing it to circulation?
21:34 cait holds_queue is there as well
21:34 cait i can make a follow up if that's ok with you, just one word to change
21:35 josef_moravec1 yes, it was intended to be in circulation module
21:35 josef_moravec1 I probably made bad indentation in yaml file ;(
21:35 cait never mind
21:35 wahanui Good, I'm glad you figured it out. I didn't understand, and probably never will, being a bot.
21:35 cait i am just seeing things
21:36 cait looking silly here :)
21:36 cait it's not you, it's me, I will figure it out
21:36 cait i think the patch does work after all
21:36 josef_moravec1 no problem, I am glad you are testing it ;)
21:37 cait i am totally out of practice it seems
21:38 cait or it's just a little late, i hope it's that :)
21:42 josef_moravec1 thanks for your sign-offs cait!
21:42 cait thx for the work :)
21:43 josef_moravec1 testing 17913, I have prepared one little followup, tests are passing, but still continuing on it....
21:46 talljoy hi cait!
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21:47 cait hi talljoy :)
21:47 cait bug 17913
21:47 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17913 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Merge three authority merge fixes
21:47 cait josef_moravec1: thx a lot
21:50 talljoy @later tell rangi apologies for the gitlab confusion- i'm trying to iron out this process so i can document it and get others involved.
21:50 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
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21:51 talljoy cait i managed to fork the manual and then delete it and send a variet of commits and merge requests.  i'm a hot mess when it comes to git
21:51 cait you can only break stuff by actually trying to do something
21:52 cait i am sure you will figure it out :)
21:52 talljoy and breaking it helps me learn it, right?
21:52 cait yep
21:52 talljoy that's the plan at least!
21:52 talljoy i think i was successful.  last merge request was approved by chris!
21:52 talljoy progress.
21:52 wahanui rumour has it progress is good
21:53 talljoy indeed wahanui
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21:54 * andreashm waves
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21:55 andreashm hi tcohen
21:57 andreashm tcohen: where in koha-conf.xml should I place the <dev-install> line specified in issue 168?
21:58 CrispyBran what is issue 168?
22:00 cait hm tcohen hm i have some problems running koha-rebuild-zebrea in my kohadevbox - have you seen that by chance? complains about the marcxml
22:00 CrispyBran andreashm ^^^
22:01 tcohen andreashm: inside the <config> section
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22:01 tcohen and it is <dev_install>/home/vagrant/kohaclone</dev_install>
22:01 tcohen cait: blame Joubu and the marcxml column for that :-P
22:02 cait so it is a bug and not something i am missing?
22:02 andreashm thanks tcohen
22:03 andreashm I also have problems with zebra in devbox
22:03 andreashm but I though it was because of the dev_install thing
22:03 andreashm CrispyBran: it's a problem with Kohadevbox
22:03 tcohen the best is that you destroy and recreate the box
22:04 cait eek
22:05 tcohen cait: that was for andreashm
22:05 andreashm aaargh
22:05 cait oh good
22:05 tcohen maybe, just maybe
22:05 andreashm I just rebuilt it last week.
22:05 cait sorry andreashm
22:05 josef_moravec1 cait: I done testing 17913, looks  good for me ;)
22:05 tcohen you can do the step manually
22:05 andreashm with quite a few issues actually. and takes forever to pull the git repository
22:05 andreashm sigh...
22:05 cait if you use a synced one, only have to pull it once
22:05 andreashm cait: thanks! =)
22:05 tcohen aren't you using SYNC_REPO?
22:06 andreashm nope
22:06 andreashm guess I should learn how that works. =)
22:06 cait josef_moravec1: so i need all patches without version and then the 2 follow-ups?
22:07 tcohen andreashm: git clone on your machine
22:08 tcohen and set SYNC_REPO=the_clone_dir
22:08 tcohen on your env
22:08 josef_moravec1 cait: you just need two last patches - which are marked with [16.11.x] prefix, Marcel did squashed them for stable versions... and I added one followup ;)
22:08 andreashm tcohen: ah! thanks!
22:08 cait thx for clearing that up!
22:08 cait josef_moravec1++
22:09 josef_moravec1 cait: you are welcome ;)
22:09 cait will be my first db updat
22:09 cait eso probably pushing it on the weekend when my brain is less tired (hopefully)
22:12 andreashm how do you change branch etc if you work with SYNC_REPO? In vagrant or at the git repo on the machine?
22:12 tcohen its hte same
22:13 tcohen you are working on the external dir, mounted inside using some networked filesystem
22:13 tcohen it is faster outside
22:15 andreashm brainmelt.
22:15 andreashm =)
22:16 andreashm Will try SYNC_REPO when it's time to destroy and start again.
22:16 josef_moravec1 cait: I believe you ;)
22:16 josef_moravec1 time to sleep
22:16 josef_moravec1 bye #koha
22:16 andreashm bye
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22:31 Francesca so far every book on this last shelf has had to be manually cataloged
22:31 Francesca which is slow
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22:44 cait cataloguing your perosnal library?
22:45 AdamB /quit
22:45 Francesca cataloging catalyst's library
22:46 cait :)
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