IRC log for #koha, 2017-01-17

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00:50 mtompset @seen cait
00:50 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 2 hours, 29 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <cait> go academy students go!
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01:39 mtompset alexbuckley: If you have addressed alll the issues with bug 17855, then please set the status to needs sign off. ;)
01:39 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Failed QA , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha
01:46 mtj hey #koha
01:46 mtj rangi, your 'koha by the numbers' graphic looks amazing btw :0)
01:50 rangi lukecatalyst: git config --global bz-tracker.bugs.koha-community.org.bz-password PW
01:50 alexbuckley thanks mtompset have done so now
01:51 wizzyrea hi mtj
01:53 mtompset I'll get to it after I finish writing all the patches for bug 17917
01:53 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17917 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, chris, Needs Signoff , Jenkins tests failing because test suite not logged in user
01:54 mtj hiya wiz :)
01:56 rangi installer/data/mysql/fr-CA/​obligatoire/sample_notices.sql
01:57 rangi installer/data/mysql/fr-FR/1​-Obligatoire/sample_notices.sql
02:27 mtompset rangi: Those two sound familar. :) The HOLD print letter is missing, which is causing my t/db_dependent/Reserves.t testing to fail. ;)
02:43 rangi patch is attached now mtompset
02:46 rangi http://www.favicon-generator.org/
02:53 mtompset Okay... going to give it a whirl while testing this other bug. :)
03:12 mtompset @seen cait
03:12 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 4 hours, 51 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: <cait> go academy students go!
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03:13 mtompset Okay, so she's offline for the night.
03:14 rangi view-source:http://demo-intra.mykoha.co.nz[…]/staff-global.css
03:22 rangi http://getbootstrap.com/css/#helper-classes
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03:36 mtompset Strange.
03:36 mtompset prove t/Prices.t passed on kohadevbox, but my git install fails.
03:39 wizzyrea quite a few bugs recently fixed for that one
03:39 wizzyrea https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].t&list_id=187641
03:41 wizzyrea is your KOHA_CONF unset?
03:41 wizzyrea for your git install
03:41 mtompset nope. It is set well.
03:42 mtompset I have no bookseller.
03:42 mtompset maybe that's it.
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04:20 mtompset I still think bug 17917 will solve most of the failures in Jenkins build #91
04:20 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17917 major, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Jenkins tests failing because test suite not logged in user
04:22 mtompset rangi++ # thanks, I really hate Failed QA'ing things, particularly on those just starting.
04:22 rangi its much better than leaving it sitting as needs signoff, because it will never get fixed
04:23 rangi and someone else will try to sign it off
04:23 mtompset Yes, but I don't want to win the failed QA counts. ;)
04:23 mtompset True enough.
04:23 wahanui I know, that's why I said it.
04:23 rangi don't test them then :)
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06:16 mtompset @seen Joubu
06:16 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 13 hours, 12 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <Joubu> we had the discussion on koha-devel before removing it
06:52 * magnuse waves
06:53 magnuse @wunder enbo
06:53 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 4.0°C (7:20 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 3.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 29.92 in 1013 hPa (Rising).
06:53 magnuse trpoical!
06:57 mtompset Greetings, magnuse
06:58 magnuse kia ora mtompset
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07:01 mtompset There... just 2 problems left.
07:03 mtompset t/db_dependent/OAI/Server.t and t/Prices.t
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07:09 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:12 mtompset Yes, 2:12AM morning it is. ;)
07:13 mtompset @later tell tcohen bug 17917, 17919, and 17920 solve most of jenkins debian 8 master build 91's problems.
07:13 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
07:13 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
07:13 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is -3.2°C (8:10 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
07:14 mtompset @wunder bolton
07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
07:14 mtompset @wunder bolton, ON
07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
07:14 mtompset @wunder bolton, CA
07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
07:14 mtompset @wunder caledon, ON
07:14 huginn mtompset: Error: No such location could be found.
07:14 LibraryClaire @wunder bolton, canada
07:14 huginn LibraryClaire: Error: No such location could be found.
07:15 LibraryClaire :(
07:15 mtompset Too small to care, I guess.
07:15 mtompset @wunder l7e5y5
07:15 huginn mtompset: The current temperature in West Bolton, Caledon, Ontario is -3.9°C (2:15 AM EST on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Light Rain. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: -8.0°C. Windchill: -4.0°C. Pressure: 30.19 in 1022 hPa (Steady).
07:16 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha LibraryClaire magnuse rangi wizzyrea
07:16 magnuse in preparation for kohacon20 in norway: https://www.futurelearn.com/courses/norwegian ;-)
07:17 magnuse oops, scratch that, 2020 is nz isn't it? so 2021, maybe
07:17 LibraryClaire magnuse: cool! :)
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07:22 magnuse if i say iot enough times, maybe it will become true :-)
07:23 LibraryClaire :D
07:28 Joubu @later tell khall please take a look at the last patch on bug 6782
07:28 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
07:31 Joubu @later tell tcohen, yes last patch on bug 6782 should fix it
07:31 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
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07:32 fridolin morning there
07:33 fridolin LibraryClaire: hie
07:34 LibraryClaire bonjour fridolin
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07:39 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]yst_Academy#Day_1  <-- not bad for the first day
07:39 magnuse catalyst_academy++
07:40 Joubu ok
07:40 Joubu well done indeed, I will try and QA them today
07:40 LibraryClaire nice rangi
07:40 rangi thank you
07:41 magnuse rangi++
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07:44 rangi aleisha++ #it was a team effort
07:44 LibraryClaire aleisha++
07:44 LibraryClaire rangi++
07:44 rangi after spending the day in a recording studio yesterday, today she was helping out at the academy :) (shes helping for the rest of the week too)
07:45 reiveune hello
07:48 LibraryClaire hi reiveune
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07:55 alex_a bonjour
07:55 magnuse aleisha++
07:57 magnuse so when OAI-PMH:ConfFile is set and the Zebra SRU server is in "extended mode" it adds a <collection> element around each record when marcxml is requested? that is kind of weird...
08:02 magnuse s/Zebra SRU/oai/
08:02 * magnuse is confused
08:07 LibraryClaire bonjour alex_a
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08:28 Joubu paul_p: Hi! Did you test bug 17898?
08:28 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17898 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a way to automatically convert SQL reports
08:35 * fridolin oneline-patch Bug 17915
08:35 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17915 minor, P5 - low, ---, fridolin.somers, Needs Signoff , warning in Stage MARC records for import when matching rule with offset
08:35 fridolin is there an ominbus for perl useless warnings ?
08:40 Joubu nope
08:46 paul_p Joubu nope, just saw your email on koha-devel and found the stuff amazing
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10:03 eythian @wunder ams
10:03 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -4.0°C (10:55 AM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -5.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
10:04 eythian and the power was out for a few hours in the middle of the night until early morning. I bet some people were cold.
10:05 cait ouch
10:05 eythian yeah
10:05 eythian it's made a mess of this area of the country, as rail was down
10:06 eythian and I don't think it's totally back yet.
10:08 eythian http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/a[…]terdam-power-cut/ <-- the official advice has been not to come to Amsterdam if you can avoid it, unless you're walking or biking.
10:12 cait wow
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11:45 drojf hi #koha
11:45 eythian hi drojf
11:45 drojf hi eythian
11:48 LibraryClaire hi drojf
12:08 drojf hi LibraryClaire
12:10 eythian https://twitter.com/LianderNL/[…]21298713922506752 <-- the translate button doesn't not give you a confusing double negative
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12:36 oleonard Hi all
12:37 LibraryClaire hey oleonard
12:37 wahanui i heard oleonard was not really here.  He said so.  He did!
12:38 LibraryClaire fair enough
12:40 drojf that theresa may speech was not bullshit at all
12:42 drojf hi oleonard
12:42 wahanui hi olé onard
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12:46 tcohen morning
12:48 drojf hi tcq
12:48 drojf oops
12:48 drojf hi tcohen
12:49 tcohen hey drojf
12:56 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
12:56 tcohen hi LibraryClaire
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13:02 marcelr hi #koha
13:02 eythian hi marcelr
13:03 marcelr hi eythian : heb je al stroom?
13:04 eythian yeah, it was out overnight, but I slept through all the fun
13:05 eythian did you come in to Ams today, or are you working from home? Because apparently transport was properly screwed up.
13:05 eythian @wunder ams
13:05 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -2.0°C (1:55 PM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
13:05 eythian warming up...
13:06 marcelr no i am not in ams
13:06 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
13:06 eythian probably a good choice :)
13:06 marcelr :)
13:06 drojf is there a way to suppress the amazon (or other) cover when a local imagine is available?
13:06 eythian imagine all the images
13:06 drojf hi marcelr
13:06 marcelr hi drojf
13:07 drojf eythian: that might take a while
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13:11 cait drojf: not that i know of
13:11 cait drojf: maybe some custom javascript?
13:12 drojf cait: that is what i am looking into now
13:12 drojf not sure if it's worth it
13:12 cait there was a bug to deal with multiple cover providers, but i thas been closed in favor of coce
13:12 drojf there was an rfc
13:12 drojf hm yes but coce doed not do local covers
13:12 drojf does
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13:44 gmcharlt @quote random
13:44 huginn gmcharlt: Quote #3: "< bignose-work> the only constant in climate over the next several decades will be that the climate doesn't match what you just got used to." (added by chris at 01:55 AM, June 12, 2009)
13:45 cait drojf: yeah, i tihnk maybe one could change it so coce is only triggered when there is no local cover?
13:46 kidclamp what cait said drojf
13:46 kidclamp and morning!
13:46 LibraryClaire hi kidclamp
13:46 kidclamp hi LibraryClaire
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14:04 magnuse kia ora kidclamp
14:04 magnuse huh? Undefined subroutine &C4::Letters::GetPreparedLetter called at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/P​atron/Password/Recovery.pm line 142.
14:04 kidclamp hi magnuse
14:07 drojf is it just me, or is the div "amazon-bookcoverimg" missing in the OPAC but present in the staff client?
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14:21 cait no idea
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14:30 marcelr gmcharlt: hi; have a look at https://bugs.koha-community.or[…].cgi?id=17913#c13
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14:33 gaetan_B hello
14:33 wahanui niihau, gaetan_B
14:34 gmcharlt marcelr: in particular, for the suggested change to MARC::Record?
14:34 marcelr yes sur
14:34 marcelr sir
14:42 oleonard Looking at Bug 17855...
14:42 oleonard "MARC21 is more commonly used globally, whereas UNIMARC tends to be used in Europe"
14:42 wahanui i already had it that way, oleonard.
14:42 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17855 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Failed QA , Updated Koha web installer and new onboarding tool feature to guide users through setting up Koha
14:43 oleonard What's a more accurate version of that sentence? "MARC21 is used globally, whereas UNIMARC tends to be used only in France" ? "only in French-speaking countries?"
14:43 cait i think maybe spain too
14:43 cait in some countries in Europe maybe
14:43 cait ah not spain
14:43 cait italy
14:43 cait becuase Zeno seemed to also work with UNIMARC
14:44 eythian "In the warmer parts of Europe"
14:44 cait Germany uses MARC21 - I would be happy to see the sentence be a bit more accurate :)
14:44 oleonard Maybe we should just take that sentence out?
14:45 cait where does it come from? web installer?
14:45 oleonard Yes, in Bug 17855
14:45 cait hm i feel like i have seen it somewhere else too
14:45 cait they might have picked it up from docs or so
14:45 kidclamp "MARC21 is commonly used, but some locations (narrow eyes) use UNIMARC"
14:46 cait hehe
14:46 cait MARC21 is the most commonly used MARC flavour - that would be true i think
14:46 eythian "Some silly places use UNIMARC though"
14:48 oleonard You guys are a lot of help :P
14:49 * cait glares a little at eythian
14:49 cait I'd go with some countries in europe
14:49 * eythian helps
14:49 cait and maybe with a sentence to say: check what's common in your area
14:49 eythian "and possibly the more seccessionist parts of Canada"
14:49 marcelr oleonard: you know, europe is always divided
14:50 oleonard Wikipedia: "There are several versions of MARC in use around the world, the most predominant being MARC 21, created in 1999 as a result of the harmonization of U.S. and Canadian MARC formats, and UNIMARC, widely used in Europe"
14:51 oleonard So UNIMARC users are holdouts? Loners? Rebels?
14:51 marcelr widely used, aarg
14:51 cait yeah but still not true
14:51 marcelr french rebels
14:51 cait yeah
14:52 cait i have had someone tell m they installed unimarc because they wanted to be able to use non-latin characters in their records
14:52 marcelr and magnuse wants you to mention normarc too ;)
14:52 cait lots of confusion there
14:52 marcelr eythian: they even use unimarc in maastricht
14:52 eythian marcelr: they're a bit strange down there, I hear
14:52 magnuse huh? yes, always mention normarc. the more normarc the better.
14:53 marcelr marc must die except for normarc :)
14:53 cait we could write: also consider to support norwegian giants by using NORMARC and help to spread it around the world?
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14:53 marcelr sounds good
14:53 eythian norwegian trolls, surely
14:53 cait @wunder Konstanz
14:53 * cait is cold
14:53 huginn cait: The current temperature in MainaustraÃ&#376;e, Konstanz, Germany is -2.4°C (3:51 PM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Light Snow Showers. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -2.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
14:53 eythian @wunder ams
14:53 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Amsterdam, Netherlands is -1.0°C (3:25 PM CET on January 17, 2017). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 80%. Dew Point: -4.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.66 in 1038 hPa (Steady).
14:53 kidclamp "If you don't which marc flavour to use, find a basement, there is probably a cataloger there. They will have strong opinions (possibly anti-marc) but they'll be bale to tell you which you should use"
14:54 eythian slowly warming up
14:54 marcelr oclc in netherlands introduced some marcnl dialect
14:54 oleonard "probably a cataloger, or a troll with opinions about metadata"
14:54 cait i see the academy students have been active :)
14:54 magnuse MARC must die, NORMARC must die first
14:54 marcelr academy++
14:55 magnuse academy++
14:55 magnuse according to norwegian cataloguers, normarc is superior to marc21. so there!
14:56 marcelr objective as they always are
14:56 eythian marcelr: like dutch is to english, was marcnl just a more drunk sounding version of marc21?
14:57 marcelr dont put dutch in the comparison
14:57 marcelr it is just a bad idea
14:58 eythian or was it that all the subfields are 'g'?
14:58 marcelr i do not even want to know it
14:58 eythian heh
14:58 marcelr lol
14:58 marcelr lets eliminate subfields
14:59 eythian once you've achieved that, you can eliminate tags
14:59 marcelr i write a patch for it this weekend
14:59 eythian then you've just go the leader left, once that's gone, marc will have died
14:59 marcelr so good
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15:01 magnuse @confetti
15:01 huginn magnuse: I've exhausted my database of quotes
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15:22 Joubu magnuse: did you open a bug report about the undefined subroutine?
15:23 magnuse Joubu: yes, bug 17924
15:23 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17924 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Fix error in password recovery
15:23 Joubu magnuse: thanks! Does it affect stables?
15:24 magnuse yes, i spotted it on 16.11.1
15:24 Joubu ok, I upgraded the severity
15:27 cait hm guess i should watch it
15:30 tcohen hi cait magnuse
15:31 cait hi tcohen :)
15:34 drojf later #koha
15:35 eythian marcelr: can you shift the rijksmuseum over a meter or two, the sun is shining on my monitor, and that'd solve it.
15:35 marcelr time for a cup of tea, eythian
15:36 eythian also an option
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16:06 marcelr have to go
16:07 reiveune bye
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17:01 Joubu Bye #koha!
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18:32 LibraryClaire evening #koha
18:38 * cait waves
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19:26 tcohen @later tell ashimema I don't manage to make coercion work again
19:26 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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19:53 barton Hi -- I have a library that's reporting that credits for returned lost items are not showing in circulation->print summary ... is this a bug, or is it simply the way that print summary was designed?
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19:54 barton emma___ can't be far behind ;-)
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19:56 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]yst_Academy#Day_2
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19:59 rangi karen_: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]yst_Academy#Day_2
20:00 rangi https://gitlab.com/scoreboard/scoreboard
20:00 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
20:02 rangi so making a gitlab account
20:03 alexbuckley rangi the vagrant up --provision after a bit of troublehooting with ssh library :) has worked. thanks
20:03 rangi yay alexbuckley
20:18 LibraryClaire g'night #koha
20:23 kchris Catalyst Academy is pretty cool!
20:23 kchris Makes me wish I could attend.
20:24 * cait too
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20:35 wizzyrea hi
20:35 wahanui privet, wizzyrea
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21:03 rangi http://scoreboard.koha-community.org/
21:07 wizzyrea lol what is a bactrian camels saved
21:08 wizzyrea bactrian camel, even.
21:08 wizzyrea tmmto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU-KGLeLReA
21:29 aleisha emma_: koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/js/audio_alerts.js
21:30 aleisha wizzyrea: a camel with two humps
21:30 aleisha camelyst
21:30 wizzyrea kekekeke
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21:46 cait hm looks like you are saving puppies today?
21:48 rangi was camels before
21:48 cait oh,... i missed the camels
21:49 wizzyrea ohh cute dogs
21:56 rangi camels again
21:58 * cait checks quickly
21:58 cait yay!
21:58 cait what's a bactrian camel?
22:01 rangi cait: zoeS has a question about the opac did you mean thing
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22:04 rangi shes trying to take a screen shot to show you
22:04 tcohen hi
22:04 wahanui salut, tcohen
22:04 wizzyrea shutter is a super nice screenshotter for ubuntu
22:05 tcohen anyone familiar with Perl's JSON library?
22:09 zoeS Cait, I put a screenshot up for you here: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]ug.cgi?id=16515:)
22:09 huginn Bug 16515: minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Did you mean? links don't wrap on smaller screens
22:09 cait ok, let me check )
22:09 * cait deletes smiley from link heh
22:11 cait i think that does look like it zoe
22:12 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "#koha: need help figuring what's going on, anyone?" (25 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/264
22:13 cait zoeS: when I ran into it the yellow box ran... out of the screen?
22:13 cait not sure if it still does from the screenshot
22:13 cait it was an older version
22:13 cait but you are definitely in the right spot
22:13 cait i fixed it with the css suggested here:
22:17 cait looking at your screenshot I think you are using the other of the suggestion plugins, but it probably makes no difference on the formatting
22:19 zoeS I haven't made any changes yet, I'm just trying to recreate it so maybe it's already fixed?
22:24 cait maybe try putting the suggested CSS in your OpacUserCss system preference
22:24 cait and see if there is a difference
22:24 cait the plugin you use doesn't have so much text, so it might not manifest
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22:25 cait btw cool email address :)
22:28 tcohen hi cait
22:28 cait hi tcohen :)
22:28 * tcohen is stuck
22:29 * cait knows the feeling
22:36 zoeS I sent another screenshot of what it looks like after the css suggestion is applied: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16515
22:36 huginn Bug 16515: minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Did you mean? links don't wrap on smaller screens
22:37 emma__ http://soundbible.com/2084-Glass-Ping.html
22:40 cait i think it looks better - the yellow box stays wihtin the white one
22:41 rangi emma__: http://media.io/
22:44 rangi emma__: wget http://www18.online-convert.co[…]rted-ca09c04b.ogg
22:52 cait is grace around?
22:54 cait i just commented on bug 8266
22:54 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8266 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , remove location from pull down on search
22:57 cait wow so many patches already
23:05 rangi http://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-ogg
23:05 cait what are you doing there? :)
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23:19 aleisha Gracie: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9388
23:19 huginn Bug 9388: trivial, P5 - low, ---, jorgia_m_kelsey, Failed QA , Accessibility - No feedback when returning book.
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