IRC log for #koha, 2016-12-13

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07:23 * magnuse waves
07:23 magnuse @wunder enbo
07:23 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is -1.0°C (7:50 AM CET on December 13, 2016). Conditions: Light Snow. Humidity: 100%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: -9.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
07:30 LibraryClaire morning #koha
07:31 LibraryClaire @wunder konstanz
07:31 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 2.7°C (8:17 AM CET on December 13, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 2.0°C. Windchill: 3.0°C. Pressure: 30.33 in 1027 hPa (Steady).
07:41 magnuse your windchill makes it warmer?!?
07:45 LibraryClaire maybe we have warm wind...
07:45 LibraryClaire it didn't feel very warm on my walk to work...
07:46 * LibraryClaire tries to warm up legs
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07:47 reiveune hello
07:47 * magnuse is rather happy with working from home
07:47 magnuse bonjour reiveune
07:48 LibraryClaire hi reiveune
07:48 reiveune \o_
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08:13 eythian wahanui: bilbothek is a bookish robotic hobbit
08:13 wahanui OK, eythian.
08:13 eythian Also, hi
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08:16 drojf morning #koha
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08:17 LibraryClaire guten morgen drojf
08:17 LibraryClaire hallo eythian
08:17 drojf guten morgen klara
08:18 drojf @wunder sxf
08:18 huginn drojf: The current temperature in Berlin Schoenefeld, Germany is -1.0°C (8:50 AM CET on December 13, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 86%. Dew Point: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.30 in 1026 hPa (Steady).
08:19 eythian @wunder Jordaan, Ams
08:19 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 6.1°C (9:19 AM CET on December 13, 2016). Conditions: Drizzle. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 6.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.20 in 1023 hPa (Rising).
08:20 eythian Hope it doesn't fall 0.1°
08:21 * cait waves
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08:31 drojf hi eythian and cait
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08:54 sameeenz Good evening all.
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10:02 josef_moravec_ Do you anybody know what are columns notify_id and notify_level in table accountlines for? There are some relations in code to it, but looks like it's not used for some real functionality...
10:29 Joubu josef_moravec_: around?
10:29 josef_moravec_ Joubu: yes
10:31 Joubu josef_moravec_: when you edit a patch, it's better to remove the signed-off-by line and ask for another signoff
10:32 josef_moravec_ Joubu: I wasn't sure, thanks, I'll do ti
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10:36 fridolin hie there
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10:44 josef_moravec_ Joubu: done
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10:57 drojf @later tell mtj thanks, uploading the package now
10:57 huginn drojf: The operation succeeded.
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11:21 jcamins @later tell tcohen Sounds reasonable.
11:21 huginn jcamins: The operation succeeded.
12:07 eythian <-- that's about right
12:08 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
12:08 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Geuzenbuurt Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 7.0°C (1:07 PM CET on December 13, 2016). Conditions: Overcast. Humidity: 99%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.21 in 1023 hPa (Steady).
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12:09 rsantellan good morning #koha
12:27 Joubu fridolin: It seems that BibLibre's sandboxes are doing something wrong when signing off, see bug 17472
12:27 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17472 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Signed Off , Borrower Previously Checked Out: Display title
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12:36 fridolin Joubu: yes we know this issue its seems to be because git status is dirty
12:36 fridolin so commit rewrites fails
12:36 fridolin whe need to look a it with jajm
12:42 tcohen morning
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12:43 LibraryClaire hola tcohen
12:43 tcohen hola LibraryClaire
12:44 oleonard Hi all
12:45 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
12:45 wahanui hi olé onard
12:45 LibraryClaire :(
12:51 oleonard wahanui: Why you gotta make LibraryClaire do a sad face?
12:51 wahanui oleonard: no idea
12:52 LibraryClaire lol
12:52 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
12:52 wahanui I'm reporting you to HR!
12:54 oleonard You're in for it now.
12:54 LibraryClaire ohnoes
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13:17 andreashm hi all
13:17 LibraryClaire hi andreashm
13:17 andreashm anyone happen to have a script to change location for a (larger) batch of records? or any other easy way of doing it (rather than using SQL and do a full reindex of Zebra)?
13:18 eythian isn't that the purpose of the batch item thingamie?
13:19 LibraryClaire batch record modification
13:19 drojf item probably
13:19 LibraryClaire or item
13:20 andreashm Yeah, that's what I was thinking. But if anyone had a handy script already, that would work well too. =)
13:23 eythian the Rijksmuseum continues to fade away as the fog rolls in thicker.
13:25 * magnuse waves
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13:39 marcelr hi #koha
13:39 eythian marcelr: are you in amsterdam today? Because your workplace doesn't appear to exist at the moment.
13:40 marcelr no i am not
13:42 eythian marcelr: it's probably for the best, I hear there are terrible things in the mist.
13:43 marcelr be careful eythian ;)
13:46 oleonard I need something like a "swear jar" only instead of putting a dollar in every time I curse I have to put a dollar in every time I forget to "vagrant ssh"
13:47 andreashm haha
13:47 oleonard (if I had an actual swear jar I'd be broke)
13:54 LibraryClaire haha, admittedly also forget to do that...
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13:55 magnuse ...there's whiskey in the jar!
13:59 eythian oleonard: alias a command that is your start command followed by vagrant ssh, or something along those lines
14:01 * LibraryClaire steals magnuse's jar
14:01 magnuse oy!
14:01 oleonard That's a good idea eythian, but then I would miss an opportunity to feel bad about myself. Can't get enough of those.
14:01 eythian fair enough.
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14:48 oleonard Successfully got a custom Vagrant box set up for another project. Yay me!
14:49 kidclamp oleopard++
14:50 * oleonard looks enviously at oleopard's karma
14:51 kidclamp heh
14:52 kidclamp oleonard++
14:52 * oleopard looks enviously at oleonard's karma
14:56 * kidclamp sighs deeply
14:57 pastebot "oleonard" at pasted "Is this where the Vagrant file interprets the distribution parameter?" (18 lines) at
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15:02 oleonard tcohen: Can you help me with the question in that paste? ^^
15:02 tcohen oleonard: there you define "contexts"/machines (jessie, for instance)
15:03 tcohen and = "debian/jessie64"
15:03 oleonard I'm curious about how Vagrant allows you to pass parameters. How does the syntax in that section work?
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15:04 tcohen defines the "box" to be used
15:04 tcohen what are you trying to do oleonard
15:04 oleonard Yes I understand what it does, but I'm curious how. I'm interested in knowing how to pass my own custom parameters in 'vagrant up' and process them in the Vagrant file
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15:04 tcohen I made it so it picks stuff from the env variables
15:05 tcohen SKIP_WEBINSTALLER for instance
15:05 tcohen it is basically ruby code
15:05 tcohen[…]grantfile#L87-L89
15:05 oleonard Ah, got it. I didn't see where in the code it was loading the env variables.
15:06 tcohen I read ENV and inject it into the extra_vars array
15:07 oleonard Okay thanks tcohen. I was reading posts which said you couldn't pass custom parameters but only use env variables, and I though kohadevbox disproved it. I appreciate the clarification.
15:08 tcohen cool
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15:41 kchris When a patron creates a patron account, the username field defaults to firstname.lastname. However, many libraries change the default username to the patron card number.
15:42 kchris Does anyone have thoughts about making the default username a system level or branch level preference?
15:44 kidclamp patrons can always use their cardnumber to log in, regardless of their username, but I think many would like to see that preference available
15:48 kchris Besides cardnumber, and firstname.lastname, are there any other defaults that might be useful?
15:49 kchris I didn't realize the cardnumber would always work.
15:50 oleonard primary email would be a logical choice for default username
15:51 kchris Are there any bugs that are pretty analogous to this and might serve as good examples of creating a branch level preference?
15:58 oleonard tcohen: Bug 13757 is set to 'needs signoff,' but depends on a 'NEW' bug, Bug 17767. Should 13757 be 'Blocked' instead?
15:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=13757 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make patron attributes editable in the opac if set to 'editable in OPAC'
15:58 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17767 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Let Koha::Patron::Modification handle extended attributes
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16:14 oleonard Bye all.
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16:18 drojf don't want to be that guy, but neither do i see any license on the hea website, nor do i see that data people talk about, which is apparently open, but invisible
16:18 drojf apart from graphs. when i hear open data, i expect downloadable data to play with
16:19 eythian downloadable is tricky with anonymisation
16:20 eythian or at least, it can be
16:21 drojf why? is anonymisation happening on the fly when creating the website?
16:21 drojf i expected that to happen before the data leaves koha, to be honest
16:23 eythian hmm, it depends.
16:23 eythian data isn't that simple
16:24 eythian I suppose it depends what exactly gets sent
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16:27 KatieCPL Hi all, I'm trying to use a file containing bib numbers in order to export MARC records from KOHA. However, the file doesn't seem to be formatted correctly. Any ideas?
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17:14 tcohen @later tell oleonard I rebased it and marked NSO, but later realised the work was not complete and a couple other bugs need to be filed before it can be pushed
17:14 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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17:56 reiveune bye
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19:07 rangi morning
19:08 cait morning rangi
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19:20 rangi
19:22 drojf rangi++
19:23 rangi be a pretty bad look if I didnt :)
19:24 rangi
19:27 drojf heh
19:28 rangi talljoy++
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19:42 LibraryClaire evenin #koha
19:49 * cait waves
19:53 rangi hey LibraryClaire
19:53 wahanui LibraryClaire is the monster under my bed
19:53 LibraryClaire hey rangi :)
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20:04 Nuentoter finally almost done installing koha once again. ugghhh
20:06 * cait sends cookies
20:07 Nuentoter Lets see if I can NOT break ubuntu this week lol
20:07 * Nuentoter nibbles on his cookie
20:07 * LibraryClaire tries to steal a cookie
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20:12 * Nuentoter hordes them, hangs his head then hands ONE over
20:12 Nuentoter i guess.. lol
20:12 LibraryClaire :D
20:12 cait you can always try :)
20:12 cait or have more cookies
20:21 tcohen @later tell Joubu I guess I missed search_limited on my generalization in bug 17755
20:21 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17755 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Introduce Koha::Patron::Attribute::Type(s)
20:21 wizzyrea hi
20:21 tcohen hi wizzyrea
20:21 wizzyrea oh hello :)
20:25 Nuentoter hello wizzyrea
20:25 Nuentoter LibraryClaire: im joking, you can have more lol
20:25 tcohen Nuentoter: hi
20:26 tcohen hey drojf rangi
20:26 Nuentoter tcohen: hello!
20:26 tcohen Nuentoter: who are you :-D
20:26 rangi hey tcohen
20:26 Nuentoter I am me! I'm a librarian from maine, usa
20:26 cait tcohen: check out the facebook on the wiki
20:27 cait there is a photo!
20:27 tcohen ah!
20:27 tcohen facebook?
20:27 wahanui rumour has it facebook is *not* a universal authenticator
20:27 rangi https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ommunity_Facebook
20:28 Nuentoter koha-wiki facebook is though, is a sham lol
20:28 rangi i think we might need to change the name, cos it confuses everyone
20:28 wizzyrea ^
20:28 rangi (its the pre Facebook, use of the work facebook)
20:29 tcohen rangi: yup, might be better changed to something else
20:29 tcohen i love it, anyway :-D
20:29 drojf hi tcohen and everyone
20:29 tcohen where's your picture, rangi?
20:30 drojf facebook was a thing before facebook?
20:30 rangi yeah thats where the name came from
20:30 Nuentoter they used to be called photo albums and you had to manually add stuff i guess, like with real things
20:30 rangi it was the school magazine thing
20:31 tcohen Nuentoter: Maine where Stephen King is from?
20:31 rangi course you can no longer search for that term
20:31 Nuentoter yeah, about 4 hours north in the frigid tundra haha
20:32 drojf community facewikipage
20:34 rangi i think fraternities and stuff called them facebooks ... basically zuckerberg screenscraped a bunch of facebooks to make what was called FaceMash .. whcih then became Facebook
20:34 drojf it's funny how the photo page in the wiki showing up coincides with people saying the wiki is too ugly to use it for marketing
20:35 drojf you can just edit out my photo, it's a wiki :P
20:35 rangi at least thats what i remember ... I could be totally wrong
20:35 ibeardslee seems like a good story
20:35 drojf yes i totally buy it and will tell it to my grand children
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20:48 Nuentoter BACK!
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21:08 LibraryClaire g'night #koha
21:11 Nuentoter night claire
21:11 Nuentoter oh, way too late
21:32 tcohen @later tell drojf some cronjobs are failing and it gets fixed by installing libperl4-corelibs-perl have you seen that?
21:32 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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21:33 * cait waves at tcohen
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21:33 cait tcohen: it looks like i got a failng test left
21:33 cait https://jenkins.koha-community[…]t_is_valid__369_/
21:34 cait and of course... runs ok for me locally :(
21:45 tcohen oh
21:45 tcohen can u belive it must have changed the date between the record creation and the sitemap creation?
21:46 cait huh?
21:46 tcohen cait: ^^
21:46 tcohen the test
21:46 * wahanui does a testing dance
21:46 tcohen does my $now = DateTime->now->ymd;
21:46 tcohen then creates a string with the expected result
21:46 tcohen and then runs the routine
21:46 cait and when the test takes too long we lose?
21:47 tcohen with so much bad luck that the day changes
21:47 tcohen hehehe
21:47 cait oh
21:47 cait ok
21:47 cait so next time will be green hopefluly
21:47 tcohen yep
21:47 cait is there a way for me to rerun manually?
21:48 tcohen i'll do it
21:48 tcohen yeah
21:48 cait ok
21:48 tcohen we need to fix the test
21:48 tcohen so it mocks the current date
21:48 cait should i file a bug?
21:48 tcohen instead of asking the OS
21:48 tcohen I think so
21:49 tcohen Subject: It you have enough bad luck Sitemapper.t will fail
21:49 cait so... me?
21:50 cait bug 17770
21:50 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17770 normal, P5 - low, ---, chris, NEW , t/db_dependent/Sitemapper.t fails when date changes during test run
21:51 * cait is the bad luck person
21:51 cait thx tcohen++
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21:51 cait for taking a look
21:52 tcohen np
21:52 tcohen later #koha
21:55 wizzyrea cait: can you change a reserve's pickup location from the circ -> holds tab?
21:56 wizzyrea I keep getting There was an error:error Method Not Allowed
21:56 cait hm
21:56 cait let me try, will take a moment
21:56 cait new installation, have to find something holdable
21:57 wizzyrea sok
21:57 cait it works
21:57 wahanui But now the Universe has disappeared
21:58 cait but i am testing on my current 16.11. rmaint branch
21:58 wizzyrea odd, on master?
21:58 wizzyrea ahh
21:58 wizzyrea I'm on master.
21:58 cait they are not far apart yet, but it might be a difference
21:58 wizzyrea I'll check
21:58 cait do you have an active rest api on this one?
22:03 wizzyrea no
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22:05 wizzyrea oh, that'll be why.
22:12 irma good morning #koha
22:15 cait hi irma
22:16 Nuentoter morning irma
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