IRC log for #koha, 2016-12-06

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00:07 tcohen hi rangi
00:15 tcohen I sent a pull request on gitlab
00:15 tcohen there's still stuff to be fixed on jenkins
00:15 tcohen but at least it should point to the right place
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02:15 mtj hey #koha,  does anyone have root on the 'download' box? i need a quick perm change
02:15 mtj ^ rangi perhaps?
02:22 jcamins mtj: what permission do you need changed?
02:23 mtj hi jcamins.. ill pm you
02:24 jcamins mtj: whoops, don't think I can do that, sorry.
02:24 jcamins mtj: also, you have your PMs silenced.
02:27 mtj yeah, their was some message spam happening on OFTC, over the weekend
02:28 mtj the admins recommended seeting some /mode stuff, as a workaround
02:28 mtj /mode mtj -G +g
02:29 mtj ..for the logs :)
02:30 jcamins rangi: you're still needed.
02:31 mtj or wizzyrea, gmcharlt_, cheers :0)
02:32 wizzyrea mtj: rangi is afk atm, and I can't seem to get into download
02:33 mtj np wiz
02:37 wizzyrea hi what's your favourite way to drop the koha database in devbox? something with defaults-extra-file?
02:44 mtj mysql -u user -ppasswd  -e ‘ drop   database koha_xxx'
02:44 mtj wizzyrea: i do something like that from bash ^
02:46 mtj ..can be handy, when mysql gets stuck loading a db sometimes
02:47 mtj sometimes a drop/create fixes the error
02:53 wizzyrea yeah, devbox users don't have the mysql root password tho
02:54 wizzyrea (this is for my interns I'm trying to find a less painful way)
02:54 wizzyrea well our interns
02:54 wizzyrea the interns.
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02:54 wizzyrea I'll sort it out ;)
02:54 jcamins Can't you use koha-mysql?
02:55 wizzyrea not to drop it?
02:56 jcamins Oh, really? I thought I recalled being surprised and concerned to note that the Koha user had DROP privileges. Maybe not.
03:01 mtj hmm, DROP privs for its own db is OK tho? hey
03:01 * mtj doesnt yet know if thats actually possible with mysql
03:03 jcamins Of course it's possible. Users and databases are independent.
03:07 mtj sure, twas a silly statement
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07:23 LibraryClaire morning #koha
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07:30 * magnuse waves
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07:42 LibraryClaire hey magnuse
07:42 magnuse kia ora BüchereiKlara
07:42 Joubu hi
07:42 LibraryClaire hi Joubu!
07:42 magnuse bonjour Joubu
07:43 eythian Hi
07:43 wahanui niihau, eythian
07:43 eythian @wunder Jordaan, ams
07:43 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 4.0°C (8:41 AM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 30.39 in 1029 hPa (Steady).
07:43 LibraryClaire @wunder Konstanz
07:44 huginn LibraryClaire: The current temperature in Mainaustraße, Konstanz, Germany is 2.3°C (8:40 AM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Light Freezing Fog. Humidity: 87%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: 2.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
07:44 LibraryClaire lol light freezing fog
07:44 LibraryClaire actually pretty accurate
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07:48 reiveune hello
07:48 fridolin hie tehre
07:48 fridolin LibraryClaire: whouuu cooooooooold
07:49 fridolin + Freezing Fog
07:49 fridolin looks like Jack Frost is in the place
07:50 LibraryClaire hi Fridolin ^^
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07:54 alex_a hello
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07:56 * LibraryClaire waves
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08:47 magnuse @wunder enbo
08:47 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 3.0°C (9:20 AM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 0.0°C. Windchill: -3.0°C. Pressure: 30.06 in 1018 hPa (Steady).
08:49 magnuse solstice in 15 days!
08:57 AndrewIsh good morn' #koha
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08:59 LibraryClaire hey AndrewIsh
09:00 AndrewIsh hi LibraryClaire
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09:58 Joubu [@later tell marcelr
09:58 Joubu @later tell marcelr could you take a look at 17726 please
09:58 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
09:58 Joubu better
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10:40 Joubu khall: Hi! I have opened bug 17727 for the failing tests we were talking about yesterday (if ES is set)
10:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17727 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, ASSIGNED , A lot of tests fail if SearchEngine is set to Elastic
10:40 khall thanks!
10:46 eythian Joubu: :)
10:49 Joubu eythian: lol
10:49 Joubu eythian: but... what is this white stuff?
10:49 eythian heh
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11:15 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
11:15 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 5.8°C (12:10 PM CET on December 06, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 6.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
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12:21 rsantellan good morning #koha
12:24 rsantellan I have a question about tools/calendar, when setting a holyday does it show on the OPAC somewhere?
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12:50 LibraryClaire rsantellan: I don't think so, no
12:51 rsantellan LibraryClaire: on the intra is a message?
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12:54 LibraryClaire I think all it does it set the closed days for the library so you can set items to not be due or charged for on those days
12:54 oleonard Hi all
12:55 LibraryClaire hi oleonard
12:55 wahanui hi olé onard
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12:56 LibraryClaire rsantellan: it doesn't leave an automatic notification anywhere.
12:56 cait hi oleopard :)
12:56 cait (someone had to)
12:56 LibraryClaire wahanui let me down
12:56 wahanui LibraryClaire: what?
12:57 LibraryClaire shush you
12:57 oleonard wahanui is unpredictable
12:57 * LibraryClaire pokes wahanui
12:57 wahanui ouch!
12:57 rsantellan LibraryClaire: thanks
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13:01 atheia Good day Koha :-)
13:01 LibraryClaire hi atheia :)
13:01 atheia \me waves
13:01 * atheia waves
13:02 atheia that's better :-)
13:02 LibraryClaire backwards waving
13:02 atheia We're developing a form of stockrotation (which is different from the existing rotating collections).
13:03 atheia For this I need to interface with branchtransfers — and I noticed branchtransfers does not have a primary key.
13:03 atheia My intuition would be to add a new column to branchtransfers, a simple branchtransfer_id, which would become the primary key.
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13:04 atheia Does anyone know whether there is a reason why branchtransfers does not have such a column yet?
13:05 Joubu bug 14187
13:05 cait i think ther eis abug for adding a key somewhere
13:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=14187 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , branchtransfer needs a primary key (id) for DBIx and common sense.
13:05 cait yep
13:05 * cait waves at Joubu and atheia :)
13:06 Joubu hi!
13:06 atheia Hello cait, Joubu!
13:06 atheia Thanks for that will have a look.
13:06 oleonard Should that bug be "Needs signoff?" The last comment is a patch.
13:07 oleonard Oh, still no atomicupdate. Maybe "Failed QA"
13:07 cait Joubu: it looks like t/db_depenedent/Members.t is failing on my 16.11.x jenkins node... but it passes for me and tomas locally
13:07 cait do youhave any idea what that could be?
13:09 Joubu cait: number of tests?
13:09 cait sec, i will find the report
13:09 Joubu searchengine=ES?
13:09 cait it's here
13:09 cait https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_16.11.x_D8/
13:09 atheia oleonard I will adopt that bug.
13:09 cait Joubu: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Build/testReport/
13:10 cait tomas said to ingore the first one, because he forgot to set something up
13:10 cait but the Member.t ones i have no explanation for
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13:10 cait the tests seem to be using the testbuilder
13:10 Joubu cait: certainly come from the data
13:11 Joubu ha wai
13:11 Joubu t
13:12 tcohen morning
13:12 LibraryClaire hi tcohen
13:12 Joubu cait: bug 17713?
13:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17713 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , Members.t is failing randomly
13:12 magnuse ¡hola tcohen!
13:12 cait hm
13:12 cait but shouldn't that fix the problem?
13:13 Joubu yes, should
13:13 cait i pushed 17713
13:13 cait[…]efs/heads/16.11.x
13:13 Joubu yes but maybe jenkins is not using it yet? :-/
13:14 cait hm it's listed in the changes for this run : https://jenkins.koha-community[…]6.11.x_D8/changes
13:14 Joubu yes
13:14 Joubu so it broke the tests...
13:15 Joubu will have a look later
13:15 cait thx
13:15 Joubu sorry, in the middle of 2 things already now
13:15 tcohen it fixed it in master
13:15 cait i am not sure how to track this... all green for me
13:17 daan cait: quick question on accessibility in koha staff interfaces
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13:20 daan I´m helping a customer making decision about new ILS, they need the staff GUI accessible to work with screen readers.  I´m having trouble finding info about if Koha is accessible as default. Can you cait or someone else please point me to some resources or help me where to start
13:20 daan The functions in focus patrons, circulation, reports/statistics
13:20 tcohen anyone has any thoughts on bug 16376?
13:20 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16376 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Failed QA , Koha::Calendar->is_holiday date truncation creates fatal errors for TZ America/Santiago
13:21 tcohen I was trying to write the regression tests, but not sure how to do it
13:21 tcohen Joubu: ?
13:22 Joubu tcohen: I did not get the question
13:22 tcohen my last comment on bug 16376
13:22 Joubu the code on the comment looks ok to me
13:22 Joubu yes, I read it
13:22 tcohen but the patch is fixing it somewhere else
13:23 tcohen it is makking the functions return floating tz
13:23 tcohen so it doesn't break in days_between
13:24 tcohen I don't know how to write the test
13:24 tcohen for the updated functions
13:24 Joubu testing days_between looks like the way to go
13:28 cait hi daan
13:28 daan hi cait
13:29 cait we don't have anything official and no documentation as far as I know I am afraid
13:29 cait we have been working with a library with a blind user
13:29 cait and i know that she uses circulation, checkouts and returns
13:29 cait item cataloguing
13:29 daan ok, interesting
13:29 wahanui i heard interesting was sometimes good and sometimes bad
13:29 cait I think she also uses MarcEdit and the staged tool - but not totally sure about that
13:29 cait also searching and editing borrowers
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13:30 cait we've always asked them pre-update to test in the new version - I don't know all they tested
13:30 daan is it possible for me to connect to that user?
13:30 cait in the past we had to change pull downs to links - before the switch from yui to jQuery UI (hope i am right, oleonard?)
13:30 daan Do you run any wcag/wai tests?
13:30 cait well now menus and buttons all seem to work well
13:30 cait no
13:31 oleonard The switch was from YUI to Bootstrap, but I don't remember what the issue with YUI was
13:32 oleonard It may have been with menus which were generated 100% from Javascript
13:32 daan cait: "no" to connect to user or wai/wcag?
13:37 daan cait: thanks for the help. Maybe I´ll run some tests on one of the demoinstallations. bye
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13:43 Joubu found too many bugs today...
13:43 magnuse Joubu: early xmas presents ;-)
13:43 Joubu I found one when trying to fix one
13:43 Joubu not sure when it will finish
13:44 magnuse will it ever?
13:44 Joubu I don't remember which one I was trying to fix, arggg
13:44 oleonard Now I know what magnuse wants for Christmas
13:44 magnuse fixed bugs ;-)
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13:45 * magnuse waves in norwegian to StefanB
13:45 * oleonard watches in confusion as magnuse makes unintelligible hand gestures at StefanB
13:46 magnuse yeah, the old viking wave
13:46 LibraryClaire demo please
13:46 wahanui hmmm... demo is at or[…]ha_Demo_Databases
13:46 LibraryClaire not you wahanui!
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13:51 barton good morning #koha!
13:51 oleonard Hi barton
13:52 LibraryClaire hi barton
13:52 barton is there any way to find the instance name via perl code?
13:52 tcohen barton: no
13:52 tcohen not yet
13:53 barton tcohen: I like your second answer better :-)
13:53 tcohen i have code
13:53 barton noice
13:55 magnuse LibraryClaire: something along the lines of
13:56 LibraryClaire magnuse: nice! :D
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14:15 StefanB magnuse: Ok, I've heard of a mexican wave, but a norwegian, that's a new one. :)
14:17 StefanB Anyway... Tried upgrading my Ubuntu to 16.04, turning off strict mode in the MySQL, and ran straight into Bug 17717. I'm a bit confused though, since this seems to be a change in perl (5.22 in the newer ubuntu, 5.18 in our older one). I wonder if CAS-client works in any way with 5.22.
14:17 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17717 normal, P4, ---, gmcharlt, NEW , Can't locate Authen/CAS/Client/Response/
14:20 oleonard Is the typical process with kohadevbox that it uses an existing test database on the host machine?
14:21 magnuse oleonard: no, the db is entirely inside the devbox
14:21 oleonard So it's always sample data you're working with?
14:22 magnuse if you have an existing test db you want to use, you have to dump it on the host, drag it into devbox and then load it into the db there
14:23 magnuse oleonard: you can populate the db in the devbox however you like, but with a fresh install you get the sample data, yes (or you run through the webinstaller and select what you want)
14:23 magnuse tcohen did lots of work on this after me, i am on bit of shaky ground here, i feel
14:24 tcohen oleonard: what would you like to do?
14:24 tcohen if you load it using
14:25 tcohen SKIP_WEBINSTALLER=1 CREATE_ADMIN_USER=1 vagrant up
14:25 tcohen you end up with  the sample data
14:25 tcohen and the superlibrarian user you ocnfigured in user.yml (or just admin admin)
14:25 tcohen BUT
14:25 oleonard tcohen: I'm finally giving kohadevbox a try, on Windows.
14:25 magnuse oleonard++
14:25 tcohen if you don't use SKIP_WEBINSTALLER=1
14:25 oleonard So I'm new to the whole process.
14:25 tcohen you need to install yourself through the webinstaller
14:25 tcohen OR
14:25 tcohen you can load your own DB
14:26 tcohen remember that if you have an SQL dump
14:26 tcohen you can put it in the root directory for kohadevbox
14:26 tcohen and it will be rsynced into /vagrant inside the box
14:27 * magnuse wanders off to eat porridge
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14:27 oleonard tcohen: Ah right, so I could import from there
14:27 tcohen yes
14:27 tcohen beware that the dir is rsynced the first time you load it
14:28 tcohen it is not a two-way sync
14:30 LibraryClaire has anyone ever had any luck with trying to use user defined variables in SQL reports in koha? Am trying to reduce the number of times someone has to enter a date (currently at three) I've seen this:[…]les-koha-reports/ but can't get the same principle to work for me :(
14:31 tcohen LibraryClaire: I once filled a bug i didn't work on, with the idea of reusing variables
14:31 tcohen so, I don't think it works
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14:31 LibraryClaire bum
14:32 LibraryClaire it also got upset when I tried to use SET ^^
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14:40 LibraryClaire tcohen do you know what the bug was called? or a number
14:40 tcohen https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]w_bug.cgi?id=9634
14:40 huginn Bug 9634: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Allow for parameters re-use on SQL reports
14:41 tcohen I forgot about it
14:41 LibraryClaire aha thanks
14:41 * LibraryClaire thinks it would be useful
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14:44 oleonard tcohen: So the kohadevbox uses a base Debian box and then Ansible automates the Koha-specific customizations?
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14:54 oleonard "An error occurred while downloading the remote file...transfer closed with 148040155 bytes remaining to read"
14:57 tcohen downloading the vagratn box?
14:59 oleonard Yes
14:59 tcohen the internet is against us today
15:00 oleonard Oh I see it tries to resume. I'll try again.
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15:05 CPLKatie Hello everyone, I'm trying to extract MARC records, but the batch won't extract from the Excel spreadsheet of bib numbers I've generated. Any ideas?
15:13 edveal Morning eveeryone
15:15 Joubu @later tell cait it seems to be random failures again. I have managed to make it fail 1 time out of 100, so quite hard to recreate and debug...
15:15 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
15:28 LibraryClaire laters koha
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16:14 Joubu @later tell cait bug 17733 should make Jenkins happy
16:14 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
16:20 oleonard tcohen around?
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16:53 oleonard Vagrant keeps telling me '"rsync" could not be found on your PATH' but I'm on Windows, shouldn't it be using type 'Virtualbox?'
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17:06 Nuentoter good afternoon Koha peoples
17:29 reiveune bye
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17:47 oleonard @later tell tcohen Having trouble getting kohadevbox running on Win7:
17:47 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
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18:02 tcohen oleonard: just read your issue on kohadevbox
18:03 * cait waves weakly
18:03 cait first round of christmas shopping done
18:04 oleonard Well done cait
18:04 cait thx ;)
18:04 cait oleonard: did you start yet?
18:05 cait could someone sign off on 17733?
18:05 cait bug 17733
18:05 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17733 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Members.t is still failing randomly
18:05 cait needed to make 16.11 go green :)
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18:14 oleonard cait: I have started to think about starting to go christmas shopping
18:14 cait well done :)
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18:37 Nuentoter people do christmas shopping BEFORE christmas? damn oops
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18:56 rangi morning
18:57 tcohen morning rangi
19:03 oleonard Hi rangi
19:08 * cait waves
19:11 Nuentoter morning folks!
19:20 * magnuse waves
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19:23 fabio_teles Hello all. Does some have some information regarding Koha LDAPS authentication with Windows Server 2012 R2 that could share? We are trying to implement it on our University
19:28 magnuse fabio_teles: this might be bad timing for a very specific question like that. you might have more luck writing to the (devel?) email list
19:30 tcohen rangi: did u get my PR?
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19:32 * tcohen answers to himself, yes, and it is broken
19:36 rangi yeah badges are still broken
19:40 tcohen i hate jenkins
19:40 cait hate is such a strong word
19:40 * cait sends a muffin
19:41 cait @later tell drojf can you eat teff flour?
19:41 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
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19:43 tcohen hi jenkins
19:47 magnuse jenkins!
19:47 wahanui jenkins is
19:47 tcohen wahanui: forget that
19:47 wahanui tcohen: I forgot that
19:48 tcohen wahanui: jenkins is
19:48 wahanui ...but jenkins is
19:48 tcohen jenkins?
19:48 wahanui i heard jenkins was
19:48 tcohen boo
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19:56 cait not good=
19:57 cait forget jenkins
19:57 wahanui cait: I forgot jenkins
19:57 cait jenkins is
19:57 cait jenkins?
19:57 wahanui jenkins is
19:57 cait tcohen: ok?
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20:04 tcohen thanks cait
20:04 tcohen have to head home, BBL
20:04 cait bye :)
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21:05 tcohen hi
21:05 tcohen @seen dcook
21:05 huginn tcohen: dcook was last seen in #koha 4 days, 15 hours, and 30 seconds ago: * dcook waves to cait1
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21:28 tcohen oleonard: around?
21:32 eythian Itym oleopard
21:49 jenkins Project Koha_Master_D8 build #60: UNSTABLE in 1 hr 45 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_Master_D8/60/
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22:47 tcohen @later tell oleonard I've just added lessc to the kohadevbox, is there a specific version that we need? Please let me know, it seems to have installed 2.7.1
22:47 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
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