IRC log for #koha, 2016-11-30

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00:35 jcamins Are any Koha people at re:Invent in Vegas this week?
00:36 * jcamins is
00:43 wizzyrea eythian: that looked like a pretty cool museum
00:43 wizzyrea it would be neat to see ai weiwei's thing
00:43 wizzyrea does it seem like a bug that "notes blacklist" doesn't hide notes from the marc view
00:43 wizzyrea it does to me.
00:43 wizzyrea (in the opac)
01:25 dcook wizzyrea: I seem to recall "notes blacklist" being rather awful
01:26 wizzyrea it is a bit, as it does both staff and opac
01:26 dcook It should probably just be removed all together at some point
01:26 wizzyrea and incompletely at that
01:26 dcook Yep
01:26 dcook i thought about using it once but then I wrote my own filter using the frameworks
01:27 dcook I think mtompset got something pushed for that now though?
01:27 dcook Or maybe it's still waiting for sign off..
01:27 dcook I recall having an issue with the implementation..
01:30 dcook libraries?
01:30 wahanui libraries are the kings of overcomplication
01:30 dcook hmm
01:30 dcook true but not what i was looking for
01:31 dcook Well look at that
01:31 dcook wizzyrea++
01:32 wizzyrea you can add your libraries in a pull request
01:32 dcook Oh and that doesn't even include any of ours yet..
01:32 dcook Yeah, I thought our intern was working on that
01:32 wizzyrea I don't have any merge requests currently ;0
01:32 wizzyrea :)
01:33 dcook I'll have to look at remedying that :D
01:34 dcook I think maybe people don't all understand the Legacy ILS bit
01:35 wizzyrea mmm I think they do
01:35 wizzyrea in case you are referring to the ones that are listed as Koha
01:35 wizzyrea I'd assume that whoever put them on community koha, or their most recent version, meant that the older version was their old system.
01:36 dcook Yeah that's what I was meaning
01:36 dcook But it's the same system, yeah?
01:36 wizzyrea not necessarily.
01:36 dcook When they upgrade to 17.05, would they then change it to 16.11?
01:36 dcook I suppose Koha is not necessarily Koha that's true
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05:00 jcamins wizzyrea, notes blacklist has been broken forever
05:00 jcamins i filed a bug a long time ago, i think
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07:55 alex_a bonjour
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08:04 jajm hello
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08:11 cait morning #koha
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08:14 fridolin hie there
08:23 cait fridolin: do you know how the suspension days feature works?
08:23 cait if you charge suspension instead of fines?
08:23 fridolin cait: hie you
08:24 fridolin cait: i know a bit
08:24 cait do you know when the restirction is generated?
08:24 fridolin if there is a late return, a suspension is created with an end date
08:24 cait only on return or is there a way to do it while the books are still checked out?
08:24 fridolin cait: i'm pretty sure it is on return
08:25 fridolin it is based on debarrement days and grace period
08:25 fridolin cait: only the script deals with too long checkouts
08:26 fridolin but i'm not aware off all code in master
08:26 cait that's still helpful thx
08:26 cait so i think it's working
08:26 cait just a bit different than i thought :)
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08:32 gaetan_B hello
08:36 cait morning gaetan_B
08:36 cait I just asked fridolin about suspension days
08:36 cait my understanding is that they are only calculated on return of the items, right?
08:46 Joubu cait: yes it's my understanding as well
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09:03 AndrewIsh @wunder machynlleth
09:03 huginn AndrewIsh: The current temperature in Machynlleth, Machynlleth, United Kingdom is -4.9°C (9:03 AM GMT on November 30, 2016). Conditions: . Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: -6.0°C. Windchill: -5.0°C. Pressure: 30.59 in 1035.8 hPa (Steady).
09:03 AndrewIsh brrrrr
09:04 AndrewIsh mornin' #koha!
09:04 ashimema mornin' 'koha
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09:14 cait thx Joubu
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11:29 mtj hi cait, i just spotted your comment on bug 10455
11:29 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=10455 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , remove redundant 'biblioitems.marc' field
11:30 mtj it a incorrect thing for me to be setting those bugs to 'pushed to stable' status?
11:31 mtj am i breaking some workflow for other people, perhaps?
11:35 Joubu mtj: Heh, that's what I was also wondering :)
11:35 Joubu I have no idea if it's our usual workflow neither if it is your job to do it
11:36 Joubu I would expect the RM to update the statuses when the release is done, but not sure it's what we did for previous releases
11:37 mtj hiya Joubu :)
11:41 cait we don't do pushed to stable
11:41 cait after release we do "resolved fixed"
11:41 cait pushed to stable is for when something is pushed to a stable release from master
11:42 cait so in this case it's not pushed to stable
11:42 cait because it was released with the new release and never backported
11:42 cait so yeah, pushed to stable = backported
11:42 mtj hi cait, hmm yeah.. i see your point
11:43 cait the rmaints set pushed to stable
11:43 cait well... the first one to get there does currently
11:45 mtj yep gotcha -  i'll correct the statuses on those bugs
11:46 mtj thanks for the info :0)
11:47 cait that's how i understand it at elast heh :)
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11:56 mtj cait: is there a particular person that sets bugs to 'resolved'?
11:57 cait i've done it with rangi for the past releases
11:57 cait setting stuff from the release before the current release to resolved closed and current one resolved fixed
11:57 cait we turn off email from bugzilla for that
11:57 cait it has not happened yet for this release
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12:00 mtj ok, sounds good
12:05 * Joubu needs brainpower on bug 17699
12:06 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17699 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , DateTime durations are not correctly subtracted
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12:18 rsantellan good morning #koha
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13:30 kidclamp morning
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14:35 eythian @wunder jordaan, ams
14:35 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 8.9°C (3:28 PM CET on November 30, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 75%. Dew Point: 5.0°C. Windchill: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
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16:10 edveal Hello folks!
16:17 cait hi edveal
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16:44 ashimema is anyone out there actually testing relevance of elastic search results vs relevance of zebra search results?
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17:02 gaetan_B bye
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17:26 eythian[…]d-statements.html
17:27 eythian ashimema: they will be different, most definitely.
17:29 ashimema mmm
17:29 ashimema they need allot of work
17:29 ashimema side by side testing here show zebra out of box vs elastic out of box.. zebra win hands down for every query we tried
17:30 ashimema been discussing with kidclamp in a private chat (didn't want to publically slate es).. but it's way further off production ready than I thought :(
17:30 eythian It's quite tuneable in es, but perhaps nothing has been done for it
17:31 eythian Eg you can specify how much importance you want various fields to have
17:31 eythian If it's sorting equally across everything in the document, it'll be weird.
17:32 eythian You probably want to boost title, author, etc.
17:33 eythian What I'm saying is you should do this ;)
17:42 ashimema I thought you might ;)
17:43 ashimema time to clock off
17:43 ashimema see you soon #koha
17:44 eythian Bye
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19:01 Nuentoter hello and good afternoon everyone!
19:11 Nuentoter Finally up and running with no hiccups so far! my god was transferring over our catalog horrible. People who do not understand the marc format should not be allowed to catalogue things ugghhh
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19:43 eythian Nuentoter: yup. I've seen some weird and wonderful cataloguing in my day.
19:44 eythian "character sets? What does that even mean?"
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19:47 * cait waves
20:08 * Nuentoter waves back
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21:25 talljoy rangi++
21:26 rangi ?
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21:34 cait rangi++
21:41 eythian rangi+-
21:42 * eythian confuses karma bots
21:42 rangi heh
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21:45 kidclamp rangi++
21:45 kidclamp I
21:45 kidclamp I'll join that parade :-)
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22:08 cait eythian: are you there?
22:21 eythian cait: am now
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22:42 Nuentoter good night everyone!
22:43 * dcook blinks
22:50 * eythian marquees
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23:17 bag @seen tcohen
23:17 huginn bag: tcohen was last seen in #koha 1 week, 3 days, 9 hours, 53 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: <tcohen> hi cait
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23:54 talljoy rangi i just submitted a patch on the documentation using gitlab.  do you see it?
23:55 talljoy says it's "running" and the number is 43493f13
23:56 bag awesome!!!
23:56 wahanui That'll be $1 for the awesome jar, bag
23:56 talljoy hahaha
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23:56 bag I always pay up for that
23:57 talljoy @later tell rangi i think i sent a commit/merge request for the manual via gitlab.  4349ef13??  let me know if i did something wrong or if you don't see it
23:57 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.
23:59 talljoy @later tell rangi ...well got a fail email.
23:59 huginn talljoy: The operation succeeded.

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