IRC log for #koha, 2016-10-27

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00:01 wizzyrea hehe hi and sleep well
00:08 dcook 2020?
00:10 wizzyrea KohaCon, the anniversary edition.
00:11 wizzyrea Bring it home, as they say.
00:44 jcamins wizzyrea: pfff. I'm looking forward to KohaCon: the Reunion Edition in 2038.
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05:57 * magnuse waves
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06:22 * BobB waves to magnuse
06:22 magnuse kia ora BobB!
06:22 magnuse how goes it?
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06:22 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara!
06:22 LibraryClaire hey magnuse
06:22 magnuse Oak
06:22 Oak magnuse
06:22 magnuse \o/
06:23 Oak \o\
06:23 LibraryClaire my IRC client is messing around and won't let me on - w as checking to see if it was me or the channel
06:23 LibraryClaire seems to be me
06:23 magnuse |o|
06:24 LibraryClaire star wars :D
06:24 magnuse /o/
06:24 magnuse yay
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07:29 * cait waves
07:29 cait kidclamp++
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07:39 cait in the web chat... irc client is giving me trouble too
07:39 cait Joubu: around?
07:45 Joubu cait: yep
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07:46 cait i have a question about bug 15881
07:46 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15881 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Serials new numbering pattern link should be a toolbar button
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07:47 cait i am not sure i get how this works
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07:47 reiveune \o/
07:48 Joubu cait: Wrong bug number? :)
07:49 cait yes
07:49 cait as always
07:49 cait sorry the web chat is odd
07:49 cait1 oh
07:49 cait1 ok, my client connected finally
07:49 cait1 the bug is bug 15581
07:49 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15581 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Add a circ rule to limit the auto renewals given a delay
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07:50 cait1 i want to work on this one today, but I am a little confused
07:50 cait1 the current behaviour was:
07:50 cait1 10 days loan period, 3 days before you can renew, so the auto renewal would start trying 3 days before the due date
07:51 cait1 can you give me an example of the new behaviour?
07:51 cait1 i have read the bug notes... but not quite getting it yet
07:51 Joubu cait1: there are 3 or 4 different bugs related to auto renew
07:51 cait1 i know, this is the top one
07:51 Joubu and each of them add a new behavior
07:52 cait1 and the only one in qa so far :(
07:52 nlegrand Hey #koha!
07:52 Joubu cait1: 'For instance, if the issue date is 10 days before today, and
07:52 Joubu no_auto_renewal_after is set to 10, tomorrow the issue won't be auto
07:52 Joubu renewed.'
07:52 nlegrand {sct}U2FsdGVkX1/hPe10EXM/CrUvueTqSkHC8​PmlikpFyMIYuvKIPMx2UdGCZfr1pBS42I4+T4s​4rLwVf3YQLxT6mQF0/kckvLaFZcBjCZdeuxQ=
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07:53 cait1 hm let me try and rephrase that
07:53 Joubu cait1: Is not ok?
07:53 cait1 i think it's the other direction that makes this hard for me
07:53 nlegrand oups sorry
07:53 cait1 i'd have stuck to the 'before due date'
07:53 Joubu there is another no_auto_renew_after_hard_date
07:53 Joubu or something
07:53 wahanui something is probably sketchy
07:53 cait1 because one value is after issue date and the other is before due date
07:53 cait1 and that confuses me
07:54 Joubu which does the same, but with a hardcoded date
07:54 cait1 someone was real serious about auto renewals
07:54 cait1 do you know the use case?
07:54 wahanui the use case is a book that has the wrong itemtype and gets a wrong dure date
07:54 nlegrand I meant: cait1, are you multitasking yourself ? cait1 is chatting while cait2 is developping and cait3 is QAing? :)
07:54 cait1 i am not quite understanding what the goal is so far
07:54 cait1 nlegrand: trouble with the irc client earlier :)
07:55 Joubu cait1: I misunderstood the need, that's why this patch exists...
07:55 cait1 wahanui: forget use case
07:55 wahanui cait1: I forgot use case
07:55 Joubu the initial need was bug 16344, and I developped 15581
07:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16344 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Add a circ rule to limit the auto renewals given a specific date
07:56 cait1 hm
07:56 Joubu so not to dropped the code, I submitted
07:56 Joubu I thought it would make sense to someone
07:56 cait1 with my example
07:56 cait1 10 days of loan period, 3 days before you can renew
07:56 cait1 what would be a good testing setting for the 'don't auto-renew after'?
07:57 Joubu 42?
07:57 cait1 um
07:58 cait1 *confused*
08:00 Joubu I don't know, I imagined that a library would want to block auto renew after a given period
08:01 cait1 hm
08:01 Joubu cait1: does 16344 make sense?
08:01 cait1 i could imagine a setting of 'allow only 2 auto renewals" or something like that
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08:03 Joubu cait1: Feel free to let a not on the bug report if you disagree on the feature
08:03 Joubu note*
08:03 cait1 still not sure i grasp it yet hm
08:04 cait1 maybe i leave a note and ask for use case / explanation?
08:04 cait1 would LIbraryClaire know maybe?
08:04 cait1 hm could i read it like that:
08:05 cait1 after 42 days on loan, an auto renewal is no longer possible
08:05 cait1 ?
08:05 cait1 independent on how long the initial loan period was and how many renewals happened in between?
08:09 Joubu cait1: yes you should ask her
08:10 Joubu cait1: it's based on the issue date, so yes it would work
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08:11 Joubu basically the patch just does: if issue date + delay > today then do not auto renew
08:12 cait1 hm ok
08:12 cait1 > is after right?
08:12 cait1 so issue date plus days delay gives you a date
08:12 cait1 and if that date is after today... then not renew?
08:12 cait1 sorry, trying to decrypt it for my brain :)
08:16 Joubu yes exactly
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08:23 cait1 ok thx!
08:28 eythian @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
08:28 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 12.9°C (10:24 AM CEST on October 27, 2016). Conditions: Fog. Humidity: 83%. Dew Point: 10.0°C. Pressure: 30.45 in 1031 hPa (Rising).
08:28 eythian it was really foggy out there
08:35 * cait1 got sun :)
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08:55 magnuse @wunder enbo
08:55 huginn magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 8.0°C (10:50 AM CEST on October 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 62%. Dew Point: 1.0°C. Windchill: 4.0°C. Pressure: 29.59 in 1002 hPa (Steady).
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11:37 fridolin hie there
11:37 fridolin i add issues with my chat client this morning
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11:49 oleonard Hi #koha
11:49 Oak hello oleonard
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12:17 * kidclamp waves
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12:21 magnuse hiya kidclamp
12:22 kidclamp hello magnuse
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12:40 tcohen morning
12:43 magnuse hm, is the "summary" on item types not working?
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12:49 tcohen hi magnuse nengard
12:49 tcohen magnuse, have you seen my koha-zebra patches?
12:50 magnuse hola tcohen nengard
12:50 magnuse tcohen: no, don't think so
12:52 tcohen bug 17467 and bug 17468
12:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17467 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , There should be a koha-zebra script to handle Zebra daemons for instances
12:52 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17468 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Remove koha-*-zebra scripts in favor of koha-zebra
12:52 tcohen i would really love to have you looking at it
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12:58 Joubu @later tell drojf could you tell me again why WWW::CSRF is not packaged yet?
12:58 huginn Joubu: The operation succeeded.
13:00 eythian Joubu: I suspect that "because you haven't done it yet" could be an answer ;)
13:00 Joubu heh yes, maybe
13:00 Joubu But he answered me something about this package last month, but cannot remember
13:01 Joubu don't remember if it's "do not have the time yet" or something more complicated
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13:17 Joubu Is someone with a kohadev box + mysql around?
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13:20 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 17375: Search by dateofbirth - handle invalid dates <[…]81cb363661b1a5d0c> / Bug 17375: Search by dateofbirth - Add tests <[…]627a0256e28e515cd>
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13:44 rsantellan good morning, I have a question about the method haspermission on the class C4::Auth, why it uses the userid instead of the borrowernumber?
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14:02 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: root" (29 lines) at
14:03 pastebot "tcohen" at pasted "Joubu: kohadev" (34 lines) at
14:03 Joubu thx!
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14:10 huginn New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 14874 - DBRev <[…]ba9b8554536a9bc44> / Bug 14874: Set default DefaultPatronSearchFields <[…]8ff2a7427add3710c> / Bug 14874 - Add ability to search for patrons by date of birth from checkout and... <
14:14 eythian @wunder jordaan, amsterdam
14:14 huginn eythian: The current temperature in Ten Kateplein, Amsterdam, Netherlands is 15.5°C (3:59 PM CEST on October 27, 2016). Conditions: Scattered Clouds. Humidity: 81%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.42 in 1030 hPa (Steady).
14:14 eythian that's actually kinda warm
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14:44 khall @later tell cait will the inc file on bug 17374 be translatable?
14:44 huginn khall: The operation succeeded.
14:45 tcohen khall: it doesn't seem so
14:46 khall thanks tcohen!
14:46 tcohen i'm asking bgkriegel
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14:54 tcohen khall: he's checking right now
14:54 khall thanks!
14:55 tcohen it is not translatable, official answer from bgkriegel
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14:57 tcohen khall: can u take a look at bug 17004
14:57 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17004 enhancement, P3, ---, koha-bugs, Signed Off , REST API: add route to authenticate patron (Single Sign On - SSO)
14:57 khall sure!
14:57 tcohen I'm tempted to QA on it so we can have it for 16.11
14:58 tcohen it might need some tweaks to match the new style/guideline
14:59 tcohen khall: regarding translatability for strings
14:59 tcohen I suggest you take a look at
15:00 khall tcohen: loving 17004 please qa!
15:00 tcohen will do
15:00 tcohen :-D
15:00 khall excellent!
15:01 ashimema returning a cookie via a rest route is the oposite of rest
15:02 * tcohen is all ears
15:02 * ashimema continues to read the bug
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15:03 tcohen kivilahtio: around?
15:03 kivilahtio tcohen: exhausted from all the Ansbileing
15:03 tcohen how is that possible?
15:03 tcohen ansible is awesome :-P
15:03 kivilahtio there are peculiarities with Ansible
15:03 kivilahtio it is often wuite heard to know how you should pass in variables exactly
15:04 reiveune bye
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15:04 kivilahtio it is often quite hard to know how you should pass in variables exactly
15:05 kivilahtio like hostvars[inventory_hostname]['toveri']['apiKey']
15:05 kivilahtio tcohen: but I try my best to like it, It is very good tool
15:06 kivilahtio tcohen: just so many things to remember
15:06 * ashimema steps back from the rest auth route.. I could loose weeks in there.. if it gets pushed, it gets pushed...  it just 'feels' wrong somehow
15:06 kivilahtio ashimema: I already wrote a REST auth route :)
15:07 kivilahtio ashimema:[…]a/REST/V1/
15:09 kivilahtio tcohen: I especially like the configuration mangement aspect. Had I know it is so good. It isn't immediately obvious when you quickly try to compare different server automation technologies
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16:43 cait kidclamp: around?
16:43 kidclamp cait: somewhat
16:43 wahanui hmmm... somewhat is not the adjective I would use
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17:20 newb newby question...  i can't find the difference between koha 16 and koha 3.  can anyone help?
17:21 newb and which would be better for a beginner?
17:37 kidclamp koha 16.05 is just 3.24
17:37 kidclamp we changed the naming conventions
17:38 kidclamp newb^
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17:50 newb perfect, thank you!
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19:03 kchris I am trying out the kohadevbox, and am getting a "guest machine entered an invalid state". Any suggestions for troubleshooting this beyond what it on GitHub?
19:06 kidclamp did you try halting and restarting the box?
19:06 kchris Yes, I did.
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19:09 kchris In the user.yml, I only uncommented and set values for bugzilla username and password. And I have not set a value for SYNC_REPO.
19:10 tcohen kchris: that's woth vagrant up? or are you trying xenial?
19:14 kchris tcohen: yes, that's with vagrant -up trusty--I am using trusty.
19:15 tcohen i'd suggest thqat you enable the GUI in the vagrantfile
19:15 tcohen to check why it is failing
19:17 kchris I first got an error that my machine "doesn't support NFS" and installed nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server.
19:18 tcohen yews
19:18 tcohen on the host machine, the one running the virtual one
19:18 tcohen but then, your virtual machine is not booting
19:20 kchris Right, I did install on the host machine, rather than the virtual machine. But the error message must apply to the virtual one...
19:21 tcohen open the Vagrantfile
19:21 tcohen on your favourite editor
19:22 tcohen and below the line saying
19:22 tcohen vb.customize ["modifyvm...
19:22 tcohen write
19:22 tcohen vb.gui = true
19:22 tcohen save the file
19:22 tcohen and then
19:23 tcohen vagrant destroy trusty
19:23 tcohen vagrant up trusty
19:23 tcohen this will create a fresh new one
19:23 tcohen with a GUI terminal
19:23 tcohen in which you will notice the problem
19:23 tcohen hope it helps
19:24 tcohen you should use jessie
19:24 tcohen anyway
19:24 tcohen because 14.04 is based on wheezy
19:24 tcohen which is basically no longer supported as of 16.05
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19:26 tcohen kchris: still here?
19:26 wahanui rumour has it here is where I work
19:29 kchris tcohen: yes, thank you. I edited vagrantfile.
19:31 kchris tcohen: I set vb.gui = "true" (used quotation marks). I may need to change that.
19:31 kchris Then,  vagrant destroy trusty
19:31 kchris then, vagrant up jessie
19:32 tcohen if you are switching to jessie, it will certaintly work
19:32 tcohen ah
19:32 tcohen wait
19:32 tcohen wait
19:32 tcohen what is the processor your computer has?
19:32 kchris just got the invalid state error message. again.
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19:33 tcohen if you are on a 32bit setup, it wont work no matter what you do
19:34 kchris Iits 32bit.
19:34 tcohen right
19:34 tcohen .-(
19:35 eythian Why doesn't it work in 32 bit?
19:36 kchris So I can't use kohadevbox on this setup at all?
19:36 tcohen the default setup uses the official debian boxes
19:37 tcohen there are no 32 biits ones
19:37 tcohen but you can try
19:37 tcohen searching for some
19:37 tcohen look for debian/jessie64 on the Vagrantfile
19:37 tcohen replace that with some other Debian Jessie
19:37 tcohen 32 bits
19:37 tcohen there was a 'bento' one I recall
19:38 tcohen need to head home now friends
19:39 tcohen if you manage to run it in 32 bits
19:39 tcohen please let me know so we document it, or fix it in kohadevbox
19:39 kchris tcohen: thanks. So trusty won't work either, right?
19:39 tcohen it should, if you try 32
19:39 tcohen ubuntu/trusty32
19:39 tcohen it is worth trying
19:39 kchris okay.
19:40 tcohen the problem with kohadevbox right now
19:40 tcohen is that it points to 64bit images
19:40 tcohen just edit it and point it to a 32 bit
19:40 tcohen i could work flawlessly
19:40 tcohen havent tried!
19:40 tcohen bye #koha
19:41 kchris I'll give it a whirl.
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20:06 eythian Ah I see. It should be more generic, what if I wanted to use ARM :)
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22:08 Radius_CZ Hi all, I'm working on bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17492
22:08 Radius_CZ When I run -v 2 -c 1, I'm still getting this failure:
22:08 Radius_CZ FAILkoha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/e​n/modules/circ/
22:08 Radius_CZ OK  forbidden patterns
22:08 Radius_CZ OK  git manipulation
22:08 Radius_CZ OK  spelling
22:08 Radius_CZ OK  tt_valid
22:08 huginn Bug 17492: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rbit, Failed QA , Show warning if patron's age is out of category limits
22:08 wahanui i guess spelling is a problem with international versions of English. Is there a particular standard preferred in the default EN installation?
22:09 Radius_CZ FAIL  valid_template
22:09 Radius_CZ Attempt to reload Koha/Template/Plugin/ aborted.
22:09 Radius_CZ Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pe​rl5/5.20/Template/ line 206.
22:09 Radius_CZ What am I doing wrong?
22:09 cait hm
22:09 cait i am not sure actually
22:10 cait is it possible you are missing some dependency?
22:10 cait are you running the tool in kohadevbox by chance?
22:11 Radius_CZ I don't think there should be any dependency issue. At least I don't know what one. I run the tool for the first time today. Other files are OK.
22:12 cait was it there from the beginning? because i think marc didn't get that
22:13 Radius_CZ Do you mean beginning of the tool results?
22:13 cait i was wondering if you are running it on the patches with the tab problems marc noted earlier
22:13 cait are those patches online? i could check in my installation with the tools
22:13 Radius_CZ yes, all the pathces as at https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17492
22:13 huginn Bug 17492: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, rbit, Failed QA , Show warning if patron's age is out of category limits
22:14 cait i will check one moment
22:14 Radius_CZ thanks
22:15 cait hm it's all ok for me
22:15 cait how is your installation set up?
22:16 Radius_CZ I have my kohadevbox installed from Marseille with Alex, if you mean this :-) No special changes in it.
22:17 cait ah ok
22:17 cait how did you run the qa script?
22:17 cait what i do in the kohadevbox is:
22:17 cait sudo koha-shell kohadev
22:17 cait qa -c 2 -v 2
22:17 Radius_CZ a was at /home/vagrant/kohadevbox and then
22:17 Radius_CZ ../qa-test-tools/ -v 2 -c 1
22:18 cait hm yeah
22:18 Radius_CZ oh I see!
22:18 cait try from the koha-shell
22:18 cait and with the shortcut
22:18 cait i will keep fingres crossed :)
22:18 Radius_CZ I should run koha-shell kohadev…
22:20 Radius_CZ Processing files before patches
22:20 Radius_CZ rm: remove write-protected regular file ‘/tmp/’?
22:20 Radius_CZ …probably "yes", but I don't know why is it asking for it…?
22:20 cait hm no idea
22:20 cait is it a local file maybe? the file ending looks odd
22:21 cait i didn't have that happen so far
22:21 Radius_CZ probably, answering "yes" :-)
22:21 Radius_CZ well, computer doesn't agree with me:
22:21 Radius_CZ rm: cannot remove ‘/tmp/’: Operation not permitted
22:23 Radius_CZ I was at anothe branch by mistake. Now everything's fine. Thank you, Kat :-)
22:23 cait np, glad it works now :)
22:27 bag hiya Radius_CZ
22:27 Radius_CZ Hi :-)
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