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dcook |
Well .in files are templates, so I reckon control is generated from control.in? |
| 00:09 |
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* dcook |
says having never built debian packages |
| 00:12 |
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dcook |
mtompset: https://debathena.mit.edu/packaging/ |
| 00:18 |
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wizzyrea |
mtompset did you need something from me? |
| 00:18 |
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mtompset |
Let me scroll back to the time to figure out... But I do recall looking for you. :) |
| 00:19 |
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wizzyrea |
cool just lmk :) |
| 00:19 |
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mtompset |
Probably related to your comment on a bug.... |
| 00:19 |
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mtompset |
can't remember the number... |
| 00:19 |
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wizzyrea |
oh, bug 17234 maybe? |
| 00:19 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17234 major, P5 - low, ---, philippe.blouin, Needs Signoff , ALTER IGNORE TABLE is invalid in mysql 5.7. This breaks updatedatabase.pl |
| 00:19 |
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mtompset |
Yes, that one. |
| 00:20 |
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mtompset |
If the two functions were moved, then the responsibility would be pushed to QA instead of the RM. |
| 00:20 |
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mtompset |
Do you think Koha::Database is a reasonable place to move it to? |
| 00:21 |
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wizzyrea |
I am not the one to ask about such things as "where subs should go" lol |
| 00:21 |
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wizzyrea |
i mean, sounds reasonable? |
| 00:22 |
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wizzyrea |
I would think as a developer, you'd want to write your database updates basically whole |
| 00:22 |
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wizzyrea |
so that there was as small of a chance as possible for mistake making |
| 00:22 |
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wizzyrea |
when the entries were moved |
| 00:22 |
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wizzyrea |
of course our RM's aren't dumb but it never hurts to make things easier for them |
| 00:23 |
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wizzyrea |
what they are, is very busy. |
| 00:23 |
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mtompset |
Right, and if there are guidelines written about how to write .perl files, which include references to these two functions, then there wouldn't be added pain for them. |
| 00:23 |
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wizzyrea |
yes exactly |
| 00:23 |
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wizzyrea |
or an example file just sitting in there to base your update off of |
| 00:23 |
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* mtompset |
nods. |
| 00:24 |
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wizzyrea |
so git cp atomicupdate.perl.example bug-xxxx-stuff.perl and off you go |
| 00:24 |
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mtompset |
So, the question then is... where would I grab developer consensus as to where those two functions should go? |
| 00:24 |
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mtompset |
post to koha-develop and see who bites? |
| 00:24 |
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wizzyrea |
I think joubou will weigh in soon |
| 00:25 |
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wizzyrea |
joubu even |
| 00:25 |
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mtompset |
because right now, the whole react thing is kind of overshadowing. |
| 00:25 |
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wizzyrea |
auē yes |
| 00:26 |
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wizzyrea |
best not to get me started on that one ^.^ |
| 00:26 |
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wizzyrea |
I have to run away for a little bit |
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* mtompset |
grins, "Let's make it all HTML 2.0 compliant" :) |
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wizzyrea |
bbs |
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* wizzyrea |
cries |
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mtompset |
-- of hilarity, right? ;) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, khall |
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mtompset |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha wizzyrea dcook khall |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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* magnuse |
makes a mental note of not starting the the day watching donald trump videos |
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fridolin |
hie there |
| 06:33 |
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magnuse |
bonjour fridolin |
| 06:33 |
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fridolin |
bonjour mon ami, preparing the HF ? |
| 06:33 |
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fridolin |
HackFest |
| 06:33 |
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wahanui |
HackFest is great fun! |
| 06:33 |
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fridolin |
ah hello old buddy wahanui |
| 06:34 |
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fridolin |
you are coming too ? ;) |
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magnuse |
i'll be organizinf joanns visit to norway before the hackfest, so that is top of my mind for now |
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alex_a |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
what's up, alex_a |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
kia ora, reiveune |
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gaetan_B |
hello |
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wahanui |
bonjour, gaetan_B |
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* magnuse |
waves to all the cool people |
| 08:04 |
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magnuse |
@wunder boo |
| 08:04 |
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magnuse |
@wunder marseille |
| 08:04 |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Bodo, Norway is 14.0°C (9:50 AM CEST on September 23, 2016). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 63%. Dew Point: 7.0°C. Pressure: 30.01 in 1016 hPa (Steady). |
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huginn |
magnuse: The current temperature in Lotissement le Pitalugue, Vitrolles, France is 16.8°C (10:02 AM CEST on September 23, 2016). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 73%. Dew Point: 12.0°C. Pressure: 30.24 in 1024 hPa (Steady). |
| 08:04 |
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magnuse |
hah, getting closer |
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fridolin |
magnuse: i've think about you because we have worked on a Sweedish catalogue |
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fridolin |
so i've seen there is a customisation in Zebra : lang_defs/nb |
| 08:15 |
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fridolin |
we played with some odd characters that are not diactricts : ä, ö ... and the best skandinavish "a" with a ° |
| 08:24 |
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magnuse |
Ã¥ |
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magnuse |
:-) |
| 08:24 |
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magnuse |
yeah, lots of fun |
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magnuse |
norway has æ as well |
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liw |
some people have Å“ too |
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eythian |
here the fanciest is ij |
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magnuse |
pft... |
| 09:05 |
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eythian |
I know, I þink we should bring back þorn. |
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* cait |
waves |
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* ashimema_ |
hides |
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oleonard |
Hi #koha |
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eythian |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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tcohen |
morning |
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kidclamp |
morning tcohen |
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rsantellan |
morning |
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tcohen |
hey kidclamp |
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wahanui |
kidclamp is the vm savior today! |
| 12:47 |
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tcohen |
rsantellan: hello |
| 12:47 |
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wahanui |
privet, tcohen |
| 12:47 |
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tcohen |
kidclamp: nice pics! |
| 12:48 |
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kidclamp |
thanks, denver was fun! |
| 12:48 |
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kidclamp |
always nice to see people in real life, so excited for marseille too |
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tcohen |
YAY! |
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| 13:07 |
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gaetan_B |
oops, big plack question |
| 13:07 |
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gaetan_B |
how is changing parameters and sysprefs handled ? |
| 13:07 |
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tcohen |
it works fine in master |
| 13:07 |
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tcohen |
with the packages |
| 13:07 |
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gaetan_B |
do we have to restart starman manually ? |
| 13:08 |
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tcohen |
sysprefs are supposed to be flushed on each request |
| 13:08 |
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gaetan_B |
ok |
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tcohen |
look at plack.psgi |
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tcohen |
/etc/koha/plack.psgi |
| 13:08 |
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tcohen |
but I usually restart memcached |
| 13:13 |
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tcohen |
are you using the packageS? |
| 13:13 |
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tcohen |
which version, gaetan_B? |
| 13:14 |
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gaetan_B |
ok i think something was wrong on the setup on our side :) |
| 13:14 |
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gaetan_B |
we're not using the packages (yet) although i am very much in favour of us moving towards using them |
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magnuse |
packages++ |
| 13:36 |
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magnuse |
@karma packages |
| 13:36 |
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huginn |
magnuse: Karma for "packages" has been increased 5 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 5. |
| 13:36 |
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rsantellan |
tcohen: is there any documentation or test about the difference between using plack or not? |
| 13:37 |
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tcohen |
have you weared a ball and chain? |
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tcohen |
rsantellan: ? |
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rsantellan |
nop, but I believe you can go really fast if the ball is free falling :) |
| 13:39 |
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tcohen |
you are using a ball and chain but just didn't notice, you are used to it |
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tcohen |
try Plack and let us know |
| 13:40 |
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tcohen |
how does it feel, that freedom |
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rsantellan |
my problem is that I have to justify to an IT guy why the change |
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tcohen |
'massive speed improvement' should be a good argument |
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rsantellan |
is there any test cases about that |
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rsantellan |
doing the job of the devils advocate.... |
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oleonard |
rsantellan: I think the problem is that it's not typical for anyone here to have to "sell" the idea of Plack |
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oleonard |
rsantellan: So nobody has test cases, charts, and graphs to present |
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oleonard |
rsantellan: Although I see how it puts you in a difficult situation. |
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rsantellan |
oleanard: I will create some test with the performance differences with and without plack and put them on the wiki. It will take me a while but there going to be my "selling" pitch :) |
| 14:08 |
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eythian |
you'll find it'll shave roughly 1 second off each request, but sometimes more, sometimes less. |
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eythian |
(obviously depends on your local setup too.) |
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tcohen |
@later tell Joubu you restored memcached into koha-conf.xml, but didn't patch koha-conf.xml* |
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huginn |
tcohen: The operation succeeded. |
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tcohen |
11921 |
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mtompset_web |
Greetings, #koha. |
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tcohen |
greetings mtompset_web |
| 14:42 |
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mtompset_web |
Greetings, tcohen. |
| 14:42 |
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mtompset_web |
I'm curious. |
| 14:42 |
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mtompset_web |
The BWS Kitchen sink plugin... |
| 14:43 |
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mtompset_web |
Who is going to fix that? |
| 14:43 |
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mtompset_web |
# Error: Can't locate C4/Branch.pm in @INC (you may need to install the C4::Branch module) (@INC contains: /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D8/blib/arch /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D8/blib/lib /srv/jenkins/workspace/Koha_Master_D8 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.2 /usr/local/share/perl/5.20.2 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.20 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20 /usr/share/perl |
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tcohen |
mtompset_web: you know how to play this game |
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tcohen |
you have to 'fill a bug' |
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tcohen |
hehe |
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mtompset_web |
Just asking, because it's a PLUGIN, and not Koha core code. :P |
| 14:44 |
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tcohen |
yes, but it has its own issue tracker, doesn't it? |
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mtompset_web |
That I do not know. Good idea to check for that. |
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tcohen |
https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]ugin-kitchen-sink |
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mtompset_web |
... /issues. :P |
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tcohen |
hey, I have to leave you something to do |
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* mtompset_web |
grins at tcohen, "Of course." |
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mtompset_web |
Where is the mayhem, CrispyBran_CausingMayhemInBugz? |
| 15:02 |
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tcohen |
mtompset_web: 15541 might be unnessesary (however it is written LOL) |
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tcohen |
because of bug 17318 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17318 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Make 'Normalization rule' configurable on matchpoint definition |
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mtompset_web |
Good point. |
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tcohen |
hi mario |
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mario |
hi tcohen |
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mtompset_web |
Have the bug wranglers been checking if things marked as enh are just enhancements? Because the whole default to enhancement is a pain in bugzilla. Sometimes I forget to change/check it. |
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mtompset_web |
tcohen: I just tried to git bz apply 17318. It needs a rebase. |
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tcohen |
did u git bz apply its dependencies |
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tcohen |
? |
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mtompset_web |
Good question. There are none listed. |
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tcohen |
oh, sorry for that |
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tcohen |
just a sec |
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mtompset_web |
Oh I see. Mentioned, but not tagged. |
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tcohen |
done |
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mtompset_web |
Thanks. I'll try again. :) |
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tcohen |
please, succeed |
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tcohen |
it is friday! |
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mtompset_web |
There we go! |
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tcohen |
later #koha |
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tcohen |
asado at the house buildplace! |
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mtompset_web |
Take care, tcohen |
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drojf |
evening |
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mtompset_web |
Good day (24 hour period), drojf :) |
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drojf |
hi mtompset_web |
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drojf |
thanks for testing the patch! |
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mtompset_web |
drojf: Which patch? |
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wahanui |
Which patch is that? |
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drojf |
anyone using coce in production? |
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mtompset_web |
Sorry, not using coce. |
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drojf |
mtompset_web: some üackaging thing |
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drojf |
p |
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mtompset_web |
Ah right. |
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mtompset_web |
drojf: there was a follow up on bug 17111 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17111 normal, P5 - low, ---, mirko, ASSIGNED , Automatic debian/control updates (oldstable) |
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mtompset_web |
which said you were going to deal with something. |
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mtompset_web |
So I didn't sign 17111 off, because I figure the other one should be signed off first, and this one would just become that perl line I quoted. |
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oleonard |
drojf: We are |
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drojf |
mtompset_web: i will generate it and then we see :) |
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drojf |
oleonard: howdoes it work is it great tellmeeverything about it ;) |
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drojf |
the real question is, can i mix multiple sources, like amazon and local |
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oleonard |
I can't answer the local question because we don't use local cover images |
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mtompset_web |
I do remember turning on everything coverwise once... some of them didn't play nice together. |
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drojf |
train coming, not sure if there will be wifi |
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oleonard |
mtompset_web: Coce is a system designed to handle multiple for you |
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drojf |
hm not my train |
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drojf |
oleonard: yes i found it (again) when i looked at the multiple sources bug |
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mtompset_web |
Yes, but I'm just a programmer, pulling buttons and tweaking settings. That would require research or documentation. :P |
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drojf |
mtompset_web: mtthat is what i remember |
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oleonard |
drojf: We are still trying to iron out some issues with mixed-content warnings because of non-ssl stuff from Amazon, but I think it can be solved. |
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mtompset_web |
oleonard: I'm pretty sure I signed off on some SSL Amazon bugs a while back. |
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drojf |
ohthat is a problem there? i guessit works differently than i thought |
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drojf |
right train, brb maybe |
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oleonard |
mtompset_web: Those are unrelated to Coce |
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mtompset_web |
Oh, Coce pushes back non-SSL? |
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oleonard |
It did, then it got fixed, but the cache of resources in our system still contains out of date non-SSL links. |
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mtompset_web |
oleonard: Oh joy. |
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* LibMonk |
slaps LibMonk around a bit with a large fishbot |
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reiveune |
bye |
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mtompset_web |
Have a great day (24 hour period), #koha oleonard rocio CrispyBran |
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oleonard |
have a good weekend #koha |
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wahanui: bye oleonard is <reply>bye oleopard |
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wahanui |
OK, eythian. |
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CrispyBran |
Hey kidclamp! |
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wahanui |
i heard kidclamp was a stealthy spy from the realm of mutant turtles. |
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CrispyBran |
??? |
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kidclamp |
I like it |
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kidclamp |
what's up CrispyBran? |
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kidclamp |
wahanui++ |
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CrispyBran |
Just sayin hi. |
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* kidclamp |
waves |
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CrispyBran |
Been creating more work for everyone today. |
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kidclamp |
heh |
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kidclamp |
uncovering bugs? |
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CrispyBran |
Uh, sorta. |
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kidclamp |
well..keep it up ;-) |
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kidclamp |
have a good night all |
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CrispyBran |
I reported 17150 last month. Today I broke it up into small enhancements/bugs. |
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CrispyBran |
Have a good one kidclamp |
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CrispyBran |
kidclamp |
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wahanui |
kidclamp is a stealthy spy from the realm of mutant turtles. |
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CrispyBran |
:) |
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kidclamp |
wahanui: botsnack |
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wahanui |
:) |
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rsantellan |
have a good weekend #koha |
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tcohen |
hi |
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wahanui |
hello, tcohen |
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tcohen |
rangi: thanks for signing! |
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tcohen |
dcook: around? |
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rocio |
back |
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tcohen |
hi rocio |
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rocio |
hi! |
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