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archer121 |
Hi, what is the difference between "Withdrawn?:" field and the "0 - Withdrawn status" field? I know that "0 - Withdrawn status" is the one we use (and the one we set with WITHDRAWN autharised value). But I am confused by the "Withdrawn?:" y/n field? |
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TMCLib |
Hey #koha, had a question on a sev major bug that hasn't seen an activity in a while |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
| 21:19 |
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TMCLib |
Hey there |
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wizzyrea |
eythian: that museum looks like a tripper's dream |
| 21:22 |
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wizzyrea |
TMCLib: you had a question about a bug? |
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TMCLib |
I did, #16583: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=16583 |
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huginn |
Bug 16583: major, P2, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Strangeness in the staff client on ubuntu 16.04 and MySQL 5.7 |
| 21:22 |
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TMCLib |
Oh, nice bot. |
| 21:23 |
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TMCLib |
Basically, no activity on it recently, but I'm looking into it for a friend getting started with koha |
| 21:24 |
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TMCLib |
Wondering where the best place to get started on how to approach it is? |
| 21:24 |
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TMCLib |
Looked like it might potentially be a big fix to do. |
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wizzyrea |
It is a bug fix to do, the current advice is to either downgrade mysql, or use mariadb |
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wizzyrea |
(standard disclaimer about "yeah yeah we know downgrading isn't the best most amazeballs option but it's what we've got for ubuntu users at the moment") |
| 21:26 |
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TMCLib |
Oh, I meant actually taking a crack at writing a fix for it. |
| 21:27 |
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wizzyrea |
sure go for it :) |
| 21:27 |
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TMCLib |
I'm a software engineer by trade, for what that's worth, but it's a major. Sorta seemed like not a wise place for a rando to jump in without first talking to established devs on the project |
| 21:27 |
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TMCLib |
Heh, in that case I'll dive in on it |
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wizzyrea |
nah go for it |
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wizzyrea |
you've had a look at the development pages? |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
version control using git |
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wahanui |
well, version control using git is at http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Control_Using_Git |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
this one and ummm |
| 21:28 |
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wizzyrea |
developer guide |
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wizzyrea |
? |
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wizzyrea |
hm no sec I'll find it |
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jcamins |
development guidelines? |
| 21:28 |
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TMCLib |
Awesome, thanks |
| 21:28 |
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jcamins |
guidelines? |
| 21:28 |
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wahanui |
guidelines is http://wiki.koha-community.org[…]Coding_Guidelines |
| 21:29 |
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TMCLib |
I was just starting to wade through the various links |
| 21:29 |
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wizzyrea |
there it is |
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wizzyrea |
also we have a code of conduct, basically it boils down to "don't be a jerk" :) |
| 21:29 |
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wizzyrea |
other than that, go nuts. |
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TMCLib |
Hah, I can appreciate that. I've shied away from open source projects in the past because the "Don't be a jerk" guideline was non existent |
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wizzyrea |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
ah, well, we've "lost" "good" devs due to their jerkness. We don't want them around. |
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wizzyrea |
and we've kept great ones because we aren't jerks. |
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wizzyrea |
so :) |
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jcamins |
But, on the other hand, Koha kept devs because of the community's general niceness, which more than outweighs the loss of the "good" devs. |
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wizzyrea |
^^ |
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jcamins |
Aaaand wizzyrea already said that. |
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wizzyrea |
teehee |
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wizzyrea |
o/*HIGHFIVE*\o |
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* jcamins |
is really tired today, so don't expect me to notice these things, I guess. |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
it's ok it bears reiterating |
| 21:33 |
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TMCLib |
Sounds like a good way to go to me. |
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jcamins |
However, no matter how tired I am, today I FOUND SOUR CHERRIES, so I'm counting today as a good day. |
| 21:33 |
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wizzyrea |
umm, lessee... anything else worth mentioning... |
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wizzyrea |
test plans are favoured |
| 21:34 |
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wizzyrea |
small testable patches are better than monoliths |
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TMCLib |
Well, luckily, with that one, the division of work seems pretty clear cut. Individual files that can be fixed and submitted 1 - 3 at a time, depending on how many methods need changing |
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jcamins |
Unit tests win instant karma. |
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wizzyrea |
^ |
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TMCLib |
You are in luck. My day job REQUIRES unit tests. |
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wizzyrea |
well you can basically assume that here as well :) |
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jcamins |
If you're reformatting code, do it in a separate commit than the functional changes. |
| 21:36 |
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wizzyrea |
Ask if something seems especially daft - there might be a reason for it (but there might not!) |
| 21:36 |
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wizzyrea |
I think most of that is in the guidelines |
| 21:37 |
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wizzyrea |
the rest is basically process. |
| 21:37 |
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TMCLib |
I'll give them a thorough read and keep them on hand as I go. |
| 21:37 |
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wizzyrea |
and we normally help first timers through |
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wizzyrea |
so you won't be totally alone. |
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TMCLib |
I'm glad to see the especially long Perl list in there |
| 21:38 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: sour cherries? what are you going to do with them? Pie? |
| 21:38 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: macerated in A) Bourbon, and B) Maraschino brandy. |
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* wizzyrea |
books a ticket to NYC |
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wizzyrea |
is there icecream involved? |
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jcamins |
Yes. |
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* wizzyrea |
cries |
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wizzyrea |
so beautiful. |
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jcamins |
I also found red currants. |
| 21:40 |
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jcamins |
Those are going in cait's fennel salad. |
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wizzyrea |
http://66.media.tumblr.com/916[…]x323o6_r1_500.gif |
| 21:40 |
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wizzyrea |
noms |
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jcamins |
TMCLib: also useful to know: on the rare occasions I'm around #koha, food conversation is de rigueur. No matter how much other people try to be professional and on-topic. |
| 21:47 |
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TMCLib |
How timely. I'm just staring my meal prepping for the week |
| 21:48 |
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TMCLib |
I gotta ask: What does a fennel cake entail? |
| 21:48 |
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TMCLib |
Only thing I eat with fennel is italian sausage |
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jcamins |
Hopefully you're not on the East Coast like I am. Starting meal prep a few minutes ago was a terrible choice. |
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TMCLib |
I am on the east coast |
| 21:49 |
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TMCLib |
Like you, I make terrible choices |
| 21:49 |
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jcamins |
Fennel salad. cait (another person on #koha) is the one who gave us all the recipe. |
| 21:49 |
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TMCLib |
Oh man, I totally misread that as fennel cake |
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wizzyrea |
hehe |
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TMCLib |
And was confused and concerned |
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wizzyrea |
fennel is really nice in sweets |
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jcamins |
It's shaved fennel with fruit, mango in the original, vinegar, salt, pepper, and red pepper. |
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wizzyrea |
the fennel bulb, not the fennel seeds |
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TMCLib |
Yeah, see, I was thinking the seed |
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TMCLib |
More of a savory flavor to it |
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jcamins |
Now I wish I hadn't shaved all my fennel for the salad. I should've made a cake. :( |
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wizzyrea |
fennel seed is nice in sweets too though |
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* jcamins |
spends a lot of his time baking. |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.candyblog.net/blog/[…]gar_coated_fennel |
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wizzyrea |
or http://www.foodnetwork.com/rec[…]de-down-cake.html which I might make now actually |
| 21:51 |
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TMCLib |
Buddy of mine at work pings me every other day with "I made a baked good, come eat." |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.epicurious.com/reci[…]lemon-cake-352317 or this omg ded. |
| 21:52 |
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jcamins |
TMCLib: I bring in cookies to share several times a week, most weeks. |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.midwestliving.com/r[…]ennel-lemon-cake/ and this double ded. |
| 21:52 |
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* wizzyrea |
tries to stop thinking about cake, fails. |
| 21:53 |
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TMCLib |
I rarely make anything outside of my meals, though I did a bit of baking for a while in college |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: I made cardamom coffee chocolate oatmeal-nobakes. And now you're thinking about something other than cake. |
| 21:53 |
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wizzyrea |
http://www.theclevercarrot.com[…]ake-250-giveaway/ I've made two of these recently, one as described and another lemon flavoured. |
| 21:53 |
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TMCLib |
Engineering school. Somehow, none of my friends, including the girls, knew how to bake. |
| 21:53 |
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wizzyrea |
cooking is the most practical kind of engineering >.> |
| 21:54 |
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TMCLib |
Right!? |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
:D |
| 21:54 |
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TMCLib |
Although we did have a mixer |
| 21:54 |
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TMCLib |
So I had to rig one up out of a cordless drill with no battery, a rack mount variable power supply, and the whisk off a mix master we no longer owned |
| 21:54 |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: is this delight of a biscuit in your cookbook? |
| 21:54 |
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TMCLib |
did not* have a mixer |
| 21:54 |
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jcamins |
I still don't have a mixer. |
| 21:55 |
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wizzyrea |
I do, but it's rubbish |
| 21:55 |
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TMCLib |
My macgyver'd one worked pretty good |
| 21:55 |
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jcamins |
Most people find this remarkable, in light of the volume of baked goods I make. |
| 21:55 |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: it is. |
| 21:55 |
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wizzyrea |
I had an awesome kitchen aid, but I moved and the electrics wouldn't work. |
| 21:55 |
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TMCLib |
Got a little scary if you pushed the electrons too much, but whatever |
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wizzyrea |
hehehe! |
| 21:55 |
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wizzyrea |
I like mcguyver mixer. |
| 21:56 |
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jcamins |
Well, I think the one in the book might be cardamom oatmeal chocolate nobakes. |
| 21:56 |
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wizzyrea |
quite sure there are volume bakers out there who use paint mixers to do large scale mixing |
| 21:56 |
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wizzyrea |
you had me at cardamom oatmeal chocolate |
| 21:56 |
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TMCLib |
My parents did that, way back in the day when they would make pancakes for the church |
| 21:56 |
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wizzyrea |
oh church pancakes. |
| 21:57 |
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wizzyrea |
did the pancake feeds have the little sausages too? |
| 21:57 |
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TMCLib |
My dad would get the cement mixer attachment for his right angle drill |
| 21:57 |
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wizzyrea |
yes exactly! |
| 21:57 |
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TMCLib |
Want 200 pancakes? Here's 200 pancakes worth of mix in under a minute |
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wizzyrea |
now I want Cake and sausages. |
| 21:57 |
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wizzyrea |
this is not going to end well. |
| 21:58 |
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wizzyrea |
and cookies. |
| 21:58 |
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wahanui |
Cookies are delicious delicacies |
| 21:58 |
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jcamins |
I keep on forgetting to ask my coworker about his extra stand mixer. |
| 21:58 |
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TMCLib |
I'm noticing a trend in my family... |
| 21:58 |
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wizzyrea |
mcguyver baking? |
| 21:58 |
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TMCLib |
Indeed |
| 21:58 |
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TMCLib |
macgyver everything, actually |
| 21:58 |
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wizzyrea |
there are worse things |
| 21:59 |
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TMCLib |
And mostly with powertools |
| 21:59 |
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TMCLib |
Used an impact wrench on a cruddy scissor jack to lift a car in 10 seconds flat the other weekend. |
| 21:59 |
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TMCLib |
The jack was not made for that. OH WELL |
| 21:59 |
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wizzyrea |
lol |
| 22:00 |
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jcamins |
At least it wasn't a high-quality misused scissor jack, right? |
| 22:00 |
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TMCLib |
Let's go with that |
| 22:05 |
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jcamins |
So... new potatoes in a white wine-yogurt sauce. Crazy or awesome? |
| 22:06 |
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TMCLib |
Depends |
| 22:06 |
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TMCLib |
is the acidity of the wine going to clash with the yogurt? |
| 22:07 |
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TMCLib |
Oh wait. Yogurt is acidic. I was thinking cream, which might curdle with the acid |
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DrLang |
Just starting to use Koha for the first time. Is there a way to limit search of a specific library to specific types of patrons? |
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wizzyrea |
DrLang: Not at the moment |
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wizzyrea |
jcamins: I'm guessing it'd be ok, kind of like a sour cream sauce |
| 22:15 |
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wizzyrea |
is there dill involved? |
| 22:15 |
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wizzyrea |
dill and yogurt is pretty classic |
| 22:16 |
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jcamins |
Hmm. Maaayyyybe. If I can find some dill. |
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wizzyrea |
erg, why would an xslt foreach not spot a tag that is clearly existent. |
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jcamins |
Wrong namespace? |
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wizzyrea |
it's inline with all the others, and it spots it without a foreach but hm not sure |
| 22:17 |
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wizzyrea |
example, I can get it with a if test |
| 22:17 |
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wizzyrea |
but the for-each doesn't |
| 22:21 |
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jcamins |
Odd. |
| 22:21 |
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jcamins |
These cherries had better be as good as I'm envisioning. It just took me 6 minutes to open the Bourbon. |
| 22:22 |
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wizzyrea |
OH HILARIOUS. |
| 22:22 |
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wizzyrea |
cue my very dumb moment |
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wizzyrea |
.summary {display: none; } |
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wizzyrea |
because on the production site they wanted them gone until the rest of the changes went in. |
| 22:23 |
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wizzyrea |
derrr |
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wizzyrea |
ty all for being most excellent rubber ducks. |
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kathrynhome |
hi all, it's the usual Catalyst kathryn here, at home with germs |
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jcamins |
And pitting the cherries took 24 minutes. |
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wizzyrea |
there's like one time a year where you want something like a cherry pitter. |
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jcamins |
wizzyrea: yeah. Except I wasn't able to get Maraschino, so I'm going to want it again later this week. |
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jcamins |
:) |
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wizzyrea |
definitely worth the investment |
| 23:03 |
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wizzyrea |
then |
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wizzyrea |
if you don't have one already |
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jcamins |
I do not. |
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jcamins |
By the end, though, I was getting pretty good. |
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wizzyrea |
you can use it for olives too, if you need more encouragement |
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jcamins |
Yeah, I'm going to try to buy a cherry pitter at the kitchen store a block away from the office. |
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